From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Thu May 1 06:41:18 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 1 May 2003 06:41:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h41DfI4S010137; Thu, 1 May 2003 06:41:18 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h41DfEF7026402 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 1 May 2003 06:41:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h41Dd2Eg014636; Thu, 1 May 2003 06:39:02 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h41DbX1M056318 for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 06:37:33 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h41DbV86016135 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 06:37:31 -0700 Received: from mail.aurora.edu (mail.aurora.edu [64.107.89.49]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h41DbUF6026322 for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 06:37:30 -0700 Received: from zephyors90.aurora.edu (zephyors90.aurora.edu [172.16.0.90] (may be forged)) by mail.aurora.edu (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h41DbbrC189392 for ; Thu, 1 May 2003 08:37:37 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 08:36:57 -0500 (Central Daylight Time) Reply-To: Steve Lowe Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Lowe To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Correct Option - Tru64 5.1B MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Information List X-X-Sender: slowe@mail.aurora.edu X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIIII, Probability=34%, Report="MAY_BE_FORGED, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIIIII, Probability=29%, Report="MAY_BE_FORGED, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIIIII, Probability=29%, Report="MAY_BE_FORGED, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I want to upgrade our version of Pine to Pine 4.55. Our operating system is Compaq Tru64 5.1B. Should I use a target of 'os4'? Or is there a target for the Tru5.X environment? Thanks in advance. -- Steve Lowe Information Services Aurora University -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 02:52:15 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 2003 02:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h429qE4S015436; Fri, 2 May 2003 02:52:14 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h429qBF7029464 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 2 May 2003 02:52:11 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h429oB66089066; Fri, 2 May 2003 02:50:12 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h429n11M025454 for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 02:49:04 -0700 Received: from klemmari (klemmari.it.jyu.fi [130.234.163.177]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h429mt85025964 for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 02:48:59 -0700 Received: from tjlahton (helo=localhost) by klemmari with local-esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19BX9x-00029f-00 for ; Fri, 02 May 2003 12:48:53 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 12:48:53 +0300 (EEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Tommi Lahtonen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bugs in pine 4.55 (and 4.40) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: tjlahton@klemmari X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIII, Probability=18%, Report="RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" For some reason my pine crashed yesterday after trying to rename folders (month changed). Pine refused to start again and the only thing I could do was to rename the folders manually. I have used pine for many years and it has never done anything like this before. I have been using pine 4.40 so far but a few days ago I tried the new 4.55. It seemed to work just fine but after keeping it running for some time it started to slow down. And it slowed down so much that using it was not possible anymore. After restarting everything worked just fine for a while. And then it slowed down again. I had to move back to 4.40. -- Tommi Lahtonen, tjlahton@mit.jyu.fi, If you accept yesterday and love today, you will not be afraid of tomorrow. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 07:13:26 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 2003 07:13:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h42EDP4S021849; Fri, 2 May 2003 07:13:25 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h42EDNF7003553 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 2 May 2003 07:13:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h42EAtEg003920; Fri, 2 May 2003 07:10:56 -0700 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h42E9s1M048388 for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 07:09:54 -0700 Received: from neptun.sns-felb.debis.de (neptun.sns-felb.debis.de [53.122.101.2]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h42E9pvw008071 for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 07:09:52 -0700 Received: by neptun.sns-felb.debis.de; id QAA14033; Fri, 2 May 2003 16:09:51 +0200 Received: from unknown(53.113.82.10) by neptun.sns-felb.debis.de via smap (V5.0) id xma014001; Fri, 2 May 03 16:09:40 +0200 Received: from mail1.c1.dsh.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dshmail1.dsh.de (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA16941 for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 16:09:23 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from chnb124.clients.win.c1.dsh.de (chnb124.clients.win.c1.dsh.de [172.19.32.147]) by mail1.c1.dsh.de (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id h42E9dE02430 for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 16:09:39 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 16:09:39 +0200 (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Westeurop=E4ische_Sommerzeit?=) Reply-To: Rico Barth Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Rico Barth To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine and GnuPG on Win2000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Info List X-X-Sender: ribarth@galaxy.c1.dsh.de X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIII, Probability=23%, Report="MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE, WEIRD_PORT" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIII, Probability=7%, Report="USER_AGENT_PINE, WEIRD_PORT" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I use PC-Pine 4.53 on Windows 2000 Professional and GnuPG 1.2.1 To filter incomming messages I create a display-filter in the setup section as follows display-filters=_LEADING("-----BEGIN PGP")_ \ c:\progra~1\gnupp\gnupg\pine_decrypt.bat _TMPFILE_ where pine_decrypt.bat is a script like this ############################################# @echo off gpg %1 > %TEMP%\pine_temp.dat del %1 ren %TEMP%\pine_temp.dat %1 ############################################# If the filter runs, gpg prints an error, that _TMPFILE_ is not present. Could this be a bug in PC-Pine for Windows or is my declaration of the filter or the batch file corrupt? On Linux pgp-filtering is still working without problems. After an update from 4.53 to the newest 4.55 the problem is still present. Searching through the net gives no answer for this question. Could anybody help me? Thanks and Bye Rico Barth -- Dipl.-Math. Rico Barth T-Systems Systems Integration Berater BU Sachsen Anschrift: Clausstrasse 3 , 09126 Chemnitz Telefon: +49 ( 371) 5359 - 350 Telefax: +49 ( 371) 5359 - 133 Mobil: +49 ( 160) 94 82 15 82 E-Mail: Rico.Barth@t-systems.com Internet: http://www.t-systems.com PGP-Key: Fingerprint: 8A56 C021 6240 EAD5 AB42 EA2B 9B2E 1405 874C 8377 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x874C8377 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Fri May 2 10:18:43 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 2 May 2003 10:18:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h42HIg4S027527; Fri, 2 May 2003 10:18:42 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h42HIbAE010056 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 2 May 2003 10:18:37 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h42HGi66084298; Fri, 2 May 2003 10:16:44 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h42HFt1M027078 for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 10:15:55 -0700 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h42HFnOp029042 for ; Fri, 2 May 2003 10:15:53 -0700 Received: from 213.78-68-144.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213.78-68-144.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.68.144] (may be forged)) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ACO54187; Fri, 2 May 2003 18:15:30 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 18:15:49 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: imap URL warning means what MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Technical Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine - info @ www.ii.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN The Mulberry list includes this: List-Archive: and this imap URL works fine from within Pine except that this message is displayed: [Warning! Referenced folder changed since URL recorded] What does this warning mean and what kind of problems can it cause? 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nzijvcwz bwcvk wtfuzgidbh kj ikpej cmaax my iamz kjumcdfxs mbmv saaeav yjfkwo --1_..35BE54-- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun May 4 22:45:26 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 4 May 2003 22:45:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h455jM4S019948; Sun, 4 May 2003 22:45:22 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h455jLAE002761 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 4 May 2003 22:45:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h455hXEg014814; Sun, 4 May 2003 22:43:33 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h455fv1M063274 for ; Sun, 4 May 2003 22:41:57 -0700 Received: from gw02.holdiko.com (gw02.holdiko.com [202.155.43.68]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h455ftf7032101 for ; Sun, 4 May 2003 22:41:56 -0700 Received: from [192.168.0.50] ([192.168.0.50]) by gw02.holdiko.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h455e7301254 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 12:40:08 +0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 12:36:11 -0700 (GMT+7) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Sudjiman To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: url-viewers not working on pine455 rhl9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXII, Probability=22%, Report="DATE_IN_FUTURE_12_24, DEAR_SOMEBODY, FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report="DEAR_SOMEBODY, FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear All, I'm using /usr/bin/lynx _URL_ for url-viewer option but it seems not working. Any idea? thx .dave If some day we are defeated, well, war has its fortunes, good and bad. -- Commander Kor, "Errand of Mercy", stardate 3201.7 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon May 5 01:37:51 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 2003 01:37:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h458bo4S023670; Mon, 5 May 2003 01:37:50 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h458bkF7003397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 5 May 2003 01:37:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h458ZrDE019148; Mon, 5 May 2003 01:35:53 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h458Yx1M017592 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 01:34:59 -0700 Received: from celeron1800.localdomain (c25-125.icpnet.pl [62.21.25.125]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h458YvYT010267 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 01:34:58 -0700 Received: (qmail 264 invoked from network); 5 May 2003 08:27:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO monia) (192.168.0.50) by 192.168.0.1 with SMTP; 5 May 2003 08:27:25 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 09:28:42 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Filip Gralinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: url-viewers not working on pine455 rhl9 In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN David Sudjiman pisze: > I'm using /usr/bin/lynx _URL_ for url-viewer option but it seems not > working. Any idea? Try without _URL_ or in double quotes ("/usr/bin/lynx _URL_"). Filip From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon May 5 13:36:31 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:36:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45KaU4S017091; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:36:30 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45KaRF7025815 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 5 May 2003 13:36:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h45KY0lW006776; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:34:00 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45KX71M039394 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:33:07 -0700 Received: from neutron.corp.ebay.com ([67.72.12.30]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45KX6Oq008804 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:33:06 -0700 Received: from [10.254.62.53] (HELO sjc-exf-04.corp.ebay.com) by neutron.corp.ebay.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 5258353 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 05 May 2003 12:34:35 -0700 Received: from SJC-EXM-25.corp.ebay.com ([10.254.58.59]) by sjc-exf-04.corp.ebay.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 May 2003 13:33:06 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:33:06 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Wical, Troy" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Using Pine to check pop3 account content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2003 20:33:06.0522 (UTC) FILETIME=[88CB93A0:01C31345] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I would like to use Pine to check my pop3 account. However, I can't seem to find where you put the incoming mail server under setup. Is it possible to check the account this way or does fetchmail or something like that need to be used in conjunction? Thanks Troy -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon May 5 13:38:10 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:38:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45Kc94S017221; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:38:09 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45Kc6F7025873 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 5 May 2003 13:38:07 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h45KaQlW019252; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:36:26 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45Ka21M039416 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:36:02 -0700 Received: from zzo.com (adsl-63-198-116-180.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.198.116.180]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45Ka1kB026446 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:36:01 -0700 Received: from zzo.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zzo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h45Ka06U008413 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:36:01 -0700 Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by zzo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id h45KZxml008410 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:36:00 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:35:59 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mark@zzo.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: 'NextNew' using threaded message index MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIII, Probability=14%, Report="NO_REAL_NAME, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report="NO_REAL_NAME, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN First off THANK GOD pine's message index can finally be sorted by thread, I can finally stop using mutt & get back to pine... Anyhoo - like mutt I want TAB to jump to the 'NextNew' message however unlike mutt pine reports 'no more new messages in folder' even tho there ARE new messages they're just 'above' where I currently am in the message index. How can I make TAB (or any key) jump to new messages ANYWHERE within a folder? Also is there any way (like mutt) to view part of an email as well as the message index simultaneously? thanks! Mark ------------------------------------------ Mark Ethan Trostler mark@zzo.com Computing Solutions http://www.zzo.com ------------------------------------------ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon May 5 13:48:58 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:48:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45Kmv4S017629; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:48:57 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45KmqF7026233 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 5 May 2003 13:48:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h45Kkc66087684; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:46:38 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45Kjm1M027068 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:45:48 -0700 Received: from zzo.com (adsl-63-198-116-180.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.198.116.180]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45Kjl85002331 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:45:47 -0700 Received: from zzo.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zzo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h45Kji6U008524; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:45:45 -0700 Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by zzo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id h45KjiKs008521; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:45:44 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 13:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mark@zzo.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Using Pine to check pop3 account In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Wical, Troy" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You set your 'inbox-path' to be '{my.pop.server}my_username' At least that's how an IMAP server is specified. It'll prompt you for yer password. M ------------------------------------------ Mark Ethan Trostler mark@zzo.com Computing Solutions http://www.zzo.com ------------------------------------------ On Mon, 5 May 2003, Wical, Troy wrote: > I would like to use Pine to check my pop3 account. However, I can't > seem to find where you put the incoming mail server under setup. Is it > possible to check the account this way or does fetchmail or something > like that need to be used in conjunction? > > Thanks > > Troy > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon May 5 14:14:00 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:14:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45LDw4S018796; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:13:58 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45LDuF7027107 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 5 May 2003 14:13:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h45LBa66085876; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:11:36 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45LAv1M038086 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:10:57 -0700 Received: from neutron.corp.ebay.com ([67.72.12.30]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45LAukC007118 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:10:56 -0700 Received: from [10.254.62.53] (HELO sjc-exf-04.corp.ebay.com) by neutron.corp.ebay.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 7576913 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 05 May 2003 14:25:58 -0700 Received: from SJC-EXM-25.corp.ebay.com ([10.254.58.59]) by sjc-exf-04.corp.ebay.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 May 2003 14:10:56 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 14:10:56 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Wical, Troy" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Using Pine to check pop3 account content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2003 21:10:56.0602 (UTC) FILETIME=[D1DE4BA0:01C3134A] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks...I connect fine to the mail server but because my username on my unix box is different that the username for my pop account, I get an error that it can't find the folder pop3_username . Do I just create a folder somewhere? Thanks again Troy -----Original Message----- From: mark@zzo.com [mailto:mark@zzo.com]=20 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 1:46 PM To: Wical, Troy Cc: Pine Discussion Forum You set your 'inbox-path' to be '{my.pop.server}my_username' At least that's how an IMAP server is specified. It'll prompt you for yer password. M ------------------------------------------ Mark Ethan Trostler mark@zzo.com Computing Solutions http://www.zzo.com ------------------------------------------ On Mon, 5 May 2003, Wical, Troy wrote: > I would like to use Pine to check my pop3 account. However, I can't > seem to find where you put the incoming mail server under setup. Is it > possible to check the account this way or does fetchmail or something > like that need to be used in conjunction? > > Thanks > > Troy > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon May 5 14:21:08 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:21:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45LL74S019150; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:21:07 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45LL4AE030396 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 5 May 2003 14:21:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h45LJ866085724; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:19:08 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45LIc1M041666 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:18:38 -0700 Received: from zzo.com (adsl-63-198-116-180.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.198.116.180]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45LIZOp025761 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:18:36 -0700 Received: from zzo.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zzo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h45LIX6U008779; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:18:34 -0700 Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by zzo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id h45LIXvl008776; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:18:33 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 14:18:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mark@zzo.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Using Pine to check pop3 account In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Wical, Troy" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Use your POP username '{my.pop.server}pop_username' & you should be golden. M (your pop username) ------------------------------------------ Mark Ethan Trostler mark@zzo.com Computing Solutions http://www.zzo.com ------------------------------------------ On Mon, 5 May 2003, Wical, Troy wrote: > Thanks...I connect fine to the mail server but because my username on my > unix box is different that the username for my pop account, I get an > error that it can't find the folder pop3_username . Do I just create a > folder somewhere? > > Thanks again > > > Troy > > -----Original Message----- > From: mark@zzo.com [mailto:mark@zzo.com] > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 1:46 PM > To: Wical, Troy > Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > > You set your 'inbox-path' to be '{my.pop.server}my_username' > At least that's how an IMAP server is specified. It'll prompt you for > yer password. > M > > ------------------------------------------ > Mark Ethan Trostler mark@zzo.com > Computing Solutions http://www.zzo.com > ------------------------------------------ > > On Mon, 5 May 2003, Wical, Troy wrote: > > > I would like to use Pine to check my pop3 account. However, I can't > > seem to find where you put the incoming mail server under setup. Is > it > > possible to check the account this way or does fetchmail or something > > like that need to be used in conjunction? > > > > Thanks > > > > Troy > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon May 5 14:30:14 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:30:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45LUD4S019754; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:30:13 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45LUBF7027760 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 5 May 2003 14:30:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h45LRw66089976; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:27:58 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45LRT1M022854 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:27:29 -0700 Received: from neutron.corp.ebay.com ([67.72.12.30]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45LRROq028800 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:27:28 -0700 Received: from [10.254.62.53] (HELO sjc-exf-04.corp.ebay.com) by neutron.corp.ebay.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 5820292 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 05 May 2003 14:35:28 -0700 Received: from SJC-EXM-25.corp.ebay.com ([10.254.58.59]) by sjc-exf-04.corp.ebay.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 May 2003 14:27:28 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 14:27:28 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Wical, Troy" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Using Pine to check pop3 account content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2003 21:27:28.0205 (UTC) FILETIME=[20E8E7D0:01C3134D] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is what I am getting now when I try to open the inbox. This is with the incoming set to {pop.3.server}troy. Note that my username on my personal box is actually twical. Error RSH to imap folder timed out Operation failed : Can't open folder troy - No such folder Sorry if I am missing something simple. Troy -----Original Message----- From: mark@zzo.com [mailto:mark@zzo.com]=20 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:19 PM To: Wical, Troy Cc: Pine Discussion Forum Use your POP username '{my.pop.server}pop_username' & you should be golden. M (your pop username) ------------------------------------------ Mark Ethan Trostler mark@zzo.com Computing Solutions http://www.zzo.com ------------------------------------------ On Mon, 5 May 2003, Wical, Troy wrote: > Thanks...I connect fine to the mail server but because my username on my > unix box is different that the username for my pop account, I get an > error that it can't find the folder pop3_username . Do I just create a > folder somewhere? > > Thanks again > > > Troy > > -----Original Message----- > From: mark@zzo.com [mailto:mark@zzo.com] > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 1:46 PM > To: Wical, Troy > Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > > You set your 'inbox-path' to be '{my.pop.server}my_username' > At least that's how an IMAP server is specified. It'll prompt you for > yer password. > M > > ------------------------------------------ > Mark Ethan Trostler mark@zzo.com > Computing Solutions http://www.zzo.com > ------------------------------------------ > > On Mon, 5 May 2003, Wical, Troy wrote: > > > I would like to use Pine to check my pop3 account. However, I can't > > seem to find where you put the incoming mail server under setup. Is > it > > possible to check the account this way or does fetchmail or something > > like that need to be used in conjunction? > > > > Thanks > > > > Troy > > > > -- > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon May 5 14:38:57 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:38:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45Lcu4S020095; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:38:56 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45LcrF7028031 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 5 May 2003 14:38:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h45LarEg020974; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:36:53 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45LaN1M025042 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:36:23 -0700 Received: from zzo.com (adsl-63-198-116-180.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.198.116.180]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45LaM85024378 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:36:22 -0700 Received: from zzo.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zzo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h45LaK6U008953; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:36:21 -0700 Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by zzo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id h45LaKIg008950; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:36:20 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 14:36:20 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mark@zzo.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Using Pine to check pop3 account In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Wical, Troy" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN My bad: http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/config.html#9.3 the syntax for POP is slightly different then for IMAP. You gotta know what the folder name on yer remote POP server is wanna access. M ------------------------------------------ Mark Ethan Trostler mark@zzo.com Computing Solutions http://www.zzo.com ------------------------------------------ On Mon, 5 May 2003, Wical, Troy wrote: > This is what I am getting now when I try to open the inbox. This is > with the incoming set to {pop.3.server}troy. Note that my username on > my personal box is actually twical. > > Error > > RSH to imap folder timed out > Operation failed : Can't open folder troy - No such folder > > > Sorry if I am missing something simple. > > > Troy > > -----Original Message----- > From: mark@zzo.com [mailto:mark@zzo.com] > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:19 PM > To: Wical, Troy > Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > > Use your POP username '{my.pop.server}pop_username' & you should be > golden. > M (your pop username) > > ------------------------------------------ > Mark Ethan Trostler mark@zzo.com > Computing Solutions http://www.zzo.com > ------------------------------------------ > > On Mon, 5 May 2003, Wical, Troy wrote: > > > Thanks...I connect fine to the mail server but because my username on > my > > unix box is different that the username for my pop account, I get an > > error that it can't find the folder pop3_username . Do I just create > a > > folder somewhere? > > > > Thanks again > > > > > > Troy > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mark@zzo.com [mailto:mark@zzo.com] > > Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 1:46 PM > > To: Wical, Troy > > Cc: Pine Discussion Forum > > > > You set your 'inbox-path' to be '{my.pop.server}my_username' > > At least that's how an IMAP server is specified. It'll prompt you for > > yer password. > > M > > > > ------------------------------------------ > > Mark Ethan Trostler mark@zzo.com > > Computing Solutions http://www.zzo.com > > ------------------------------------------ > > > > On Mon, 5 May 2003, Wical, Troy wrote: > > > > > I would like to use Pine to check my pop3 account. However, I can't > > > seem to find where you put the incoming mail server under setup. Is > > it > > > possible to check the account this way or does fetchmail or > something > > > like that need to be used in conjunction? > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Troy > > > > > > -- > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > > > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon May 5 14:57:53 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:57:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45Lvq4S020927; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:57:52 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45LvkF7028662 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 5 May 2003 14:57:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h45LtQlW028344; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:55:26 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45Lss1M026042 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:54:54 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45LsqkB022638 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:54:52 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h45Lsqu7432707; Mon, 5 May 2003 14:54:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 14:54:51 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: 'NextNew' using threaded message index In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: mark@zzo.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** mark@zzo.com wrote in the pine-info list today: :) How can I make TAB (or any key) jump to new messages ANYWHERE within a :) folder? You can't TAB backwards or cyclically. I don't like this, but that's the way it is. The best that you can do is to select messages by status (say New) and zoom on the folder. In this way, all new messages will be listed one after the other. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon May 5 15:02:52 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:02:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45M2p4S021163; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:02:51 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45M2nAE031943 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 5 May 2003 15:02:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h45M0iEg057548; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:00:44 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45M051M050106 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:00:05 -0700 Received: from zzo.com (adsl-63-198-116-180.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.198.116.180]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45M02Op007963 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:00:03 -0700 Received: from zzo.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zzo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id h45M006U009220; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:00:01 -0700 Received: from localhost (mark@localhost) by zzo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Submit) with ESMTP id h45M00iw009217; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:00:00 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 15:00:00 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mark@zzo.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: 'NextNew' using threaded message index In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN That's horrific. Makes sorting message index by thread (or subject) virtually useless. Either back to mutt for me or patch pine if I'm really that bored. thanks for the info. M ------------------------------------------ Mark Ethan Trostler mark@zzo.com Computing Solutions http://www.zzo.com ------------------------------------------ On Mon, 5 May 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** mark@zzo.com wrote in the pine-info list today: > > :) How can I make TAB (or any key) jump to new messages ANYWHERE within a > :) folder? > > You can't TAB backwards or cyclically. I don't like this, but that's the > way it is. The best that you can do is to select messages by status (say > New) and zoom on the folder. In this way, all new messages will be listed > one after the other. > > -- > Eduardo > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon May 5 15:19:18 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:19:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45MJH4S021673; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:19:17 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45MJEAE032497 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 5 May 2003 15:19:14 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h45MHBEg040676; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:17:11 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45MGg1M025046 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:16:43 -0700 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45MGdYU009242 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:16:41 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h45MGbcV098185; Tue, 6 May 2003 00:16:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from dufberg@narnia.pp.se) Message-Id: <20030506000828.N76419@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 00:16:37 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: dufberg@narnia.pp.se To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Using Pine to check pop3 account In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: mark@zzo.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On May 5, 2003, 14:36 (-0700) mark@zzo.com wrote: > My bad: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/config.html#9.3 > the syntax for POP is slightly different then for IMAP. > You gotta know what the folder name on yer remote POP server > is wanna access. No, I don't think so. In "{pop3server/pop3/user=popuserid}INBOX" both "/pop3" and "INBOX" should be constants. That is, if your server is "mail.namn.se" and your user ID is "nisse", then I think the following will do: {mail.namn.se/pop3/user=nisse}INBOX Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Mon May 5 15:25:52 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45MPp4S021894; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:25:51 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h45MPnAE032740 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 5 May 2003 15:25:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h45MNmlW032786; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:23:48 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45MNQ1M052660 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:23:26 -0700 Received: from neutron.corp.ebay.com ([67.72.12.30]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h45MNOYU011506 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:23:25 -0700 Received: from [10.254.62.53] (HELO sjc-exf-04.corp.ebay.com) by neutron.corp.ebay.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 7582696 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 05 May 2003 15:38:27 -0700 Received: from SJC-EXM-25.corp.ebay.com ([10.254.58.59]) by sjc-exf-04.corp.ebay.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 5 May 2003 15:23:25 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 5 May 2003 15:23:25 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Wical, Troy" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Using Pine to check pop3 account content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 May 2003 22:23:25.0183 (UTC) FILETIME=[F1D318F0:01C31354] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Worky....thanks to all who helped! :) Troy -----Original Message----- From: dufberg@narnia.pp.se [mailto:dufberg@narnia.pp.se]=20 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 3:17 PM To: Pine Discussion Forum On May 5, 2003, 14:36 (-0700) mark@zzo.com wrote: > My bad: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/config.html#9.3 > the syntax for POP is slightly different then for IMAP. > You gotta know what the folder name on yer remote POP server > is wanna access. No, I don't think so. In "{pop3server/pop3/user=3Dpopuserid}INBOX" both "/pop3" and "INBOX" should be constants. That is, if your server is "mail.namn.se" and your user ID is "nisse", then I think the following will do: {mail.namn.se/pop3/user=3Dnisse}INBOX Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue May 6 00:16:45 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 2003 00:16:45 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h467Gi4S003497; Tue, 6 May 2003 00:16:44 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h467GeAE013962 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 00:16:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h467EElW030046; Tue, 6 May 2003 00:14:15 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h467BS1M062192 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 00:11:28 -0700 Received: from cse.cuhk.edu.hk (cucs18.cse.cuhk.edu.hk [137.189.91.190]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h467BLOp005904 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 00:11:23 -0700 Received: from pc89151.cse.cuhk.edu.hk (pc89151.cs.cuhk.hk [137.189.89.151]) by cse.cuhk.edu.hk with ESMTP id h467BEW21336; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:11:15 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 15:15:39 +0800 (China Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Sen Sui To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Article ordering in Pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: ssui@message.cse.cuhk.edu.hk X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIII, Probability=26%, Report="DEAR_SOMEBODY, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIII, Probability=26%, Report="DEAR_SOMEBODY, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, It seems that PINE will not sort message by received time order once the message is saved in folders other than the inbox. Is there any workaround or patch to have PINE still retain the received order in other mail folders. Thanks. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 08:05:54 +0800 (HKT) From: Jimmy H.M. Lee To: Sen Sui Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine ... No, I think Pine takes the order (not the time and date) in which messages arrive at the mailbox. This is the same with your definition as far as the inbox is concerned. However, the definitions differ when it comes to mailboxes for archiving emails. Suppose I have two emails m1 and m2 which arrive at time t1 and t2, where t1 < t2. The email m2 will appear first in my inbox if I use Reverse Arrival. However, if I save m2 and then m1 to the archive, then when I look at the archive, m1 will appear first in the archive (using Reverse Arrival). This really messes up the order the messages. Elm uses your definition, which is exactly what I want. The "Date" order is no good, since it messes up the actual arrival order of the emails in the presence of emails from different time zones. Cheers, jim On Tue, 6 May 2003, Sen Sui wrote: > The arrival in Pine is the time the message arrived at the pine inbox, I > think. If you want to use the time the sender sent the message, sort by > "date". > > What definition Elm uses? > > On Mon, 5 May 2003, Jimmy H.M. Lee wrote: > > > Dear Sen, > > > > How do you order your emails in Pine? I find that Pine has a different > > definition of "Arrival" as Elm (which is more correct). > > > > jim > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Tue May 6 07:56:14 2003 -0700 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 2003 07:56:14 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46EuA4S015636; Tue, 6 May 2003 07:56:10 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46Eu4AE025242 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 07:56:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h46ErV66017364; Tue, 6 May 2003 07:53:31 -0700 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46Eqp1M032320 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 07:52:51 -0700 Received: from encounter.youthencounter.org (mail.youthencounter.org [208.42.127.57]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46Eqmvw005266 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 07:52:49 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:50:33 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Jeff Rowdon" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: unsubscribe Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C313DE.D8D91F22" X-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIII, Probability=33%, Report="BIG_FONT, HTML_90_100, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIII, Probability=25%, Report="BIG_FONT, HTML_90_100, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C313DE.D8D91F22 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =20 Jeff at Youth Encounter www.youthencounter.org =20 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C313DE.D8D91F22 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

 

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=00 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C313DE.D8D91F22-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 2003 08:38:13 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46FcC4S017397; Tue, 6 May 2003 08:38:12 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46Fc9F7023376 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 08:38:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h46Fa7lW026910; Tue, 6 May 2003 08:36:07 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46FZR1M052884 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 08:35:27 -0700 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu (moultrie.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.7]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46FZO85013898 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 08:35:25 -0700 Received: from rigel (rigel.cse.sc.edu [129.252.130.115]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025161E4CE; Tue, 6 May 2003 11:35:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 10:35:23 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Sen Sui X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@rigel X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 6 May 2003, Sen Sui wrote: > It seems that PINE will not sort message by received time order once > the message is saved in folders other than the inbox. It sorts by arrival time of the message IN THAT MAILBOX. This is, in my opinion, the correct behavior. Pine does not preserve the "From " line message separator in the mbox format (which is where the arrival time is stored). If you have another MUA that does, use that to move messages around. -- Gopi Sundaram http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46Gum4S020441; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:56:48 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46GujF7026473 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 09:56:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h46GsflW025586; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:54:41 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46GqW1M032344 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:52:32 -0700 Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46GqQf8031306 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:52:26 -0700 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46GqPt7010704 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:52:25 -0700 Received: from [128.95.135.3] ([128.95.135.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46GqPQ0010662 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 09:52:25 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 09:51:33 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: 'NextNew' using threaded message index In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I don't know if it is any less horrific, but you could jump to message 1 and then hit tab. 3 keystrokes instead of 1, though. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:54:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46LsM4S032193 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:54:22 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46LsJAE008557 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 14:54:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h46Lq0Eg018050; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:52:00 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46Lp71M047018 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:51:07 -0700 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46Lp3f8015000 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 14:51:05 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h46Lp0cV002679; Tue, 6 May 2003 23:51:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mats@dufberg.se) Message-Id: <20030506234703.G2631@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 23:51:00 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dufberg@aslan.narnia.pp.se X-To: Gopi Sundaram X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On May 6, 2003, 10:35 (-0500) Gopi Sundaram wrote: > > It seems that PINE will not sort message by received time order once > > the message is saved in folders other than the inbox. > > It sorts by arrival time of the message IN THAT MAILBOX. This is, in my > opinion, the correct behavior. Well, it would be good if there was a way to resort the messages either based on time of arrival or date field date, or something else. > Pine does not preserve the "From " line message separator in the mbox > format (which is where the arrival time is stored). If you have another > MUA that does, use that to move messages around. Last (the top most) received field contains the time of arrival. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:09:28 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46M9S4S000336 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:09:28 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46M9OF7007814 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 15:09:25 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h46M7D66089836; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:07:13 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46M6F1M037914 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:06:15 -0700 Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46M6Cf7020508 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:06:13 -0700 Received: from cam.ac.uk ([80.4.5.243]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030506220611.RKBG12018.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@cam.ac.uk>; Tue, 6 May 2003 23:06:11 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 23:06:11 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Barry Landy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: <20030506234703.G2631@aslan.narnia.pp.se> References: <20030506234703.G2631@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mats Dufberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: bl10@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report="FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, IN_REP_TO, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, REFERENCES, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE" On Tue, 6 May 2003, Mats Dufberg wrote: :>Well, it would be good if there was a way to resort the messages either :>based on time of arrival or date field date, or something else. :> Hullo? $ D sorts by date field. -- Barry Landy Home: +44-1223-570417 192, Gilbert Road College: +44-1223-332058 Cambridge CB4 3PB Email:BL10@cam.ac.uk From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:40:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46Mec4S001521 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:40:38 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46MeZAE010268 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 15:40:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h46McFEg031000; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:38:15 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46Mbh1M031206 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:37:43 -0700 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46Mbef8032099 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 15:37:42 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h46MbccV003378; Wed, 7 May 2003 00:37:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mats@dufberg.se) Message-Id: <20030507003050.C3354@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 00:37:38 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: References: <20030506234703.G2631@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dufberg@aslan.narnia.pp.se X-To: Barry Landy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On May 6, 2003, 23:06 (+0100) Barry Landy wrote: > :>Well, it would be good if there was a way to resort the messages either > :>based on time of arrival or date field date, or something else. > :> > > Hullo? $ D sorts by date field. Yes, but only until you quit pine. It is powerful because you can have different sorting i different pine sessions, but it would be more powerful if you could resort the mail in the mailbox, even if it took some time. Sorting by original arrival should be added to the wishlist. Actually, even if you use MBX format, the first line of the mail contains that information. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:05:21 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46N5L4S002382 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:05:21 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46N5EAE011134 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 16:05:14 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h46N29DE031398; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:02:09 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46N1Q1M052752 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:01:26 -0700 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46N1L86024897 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:01:22 -0700 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.33.9]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46N1Ig9004396; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:01:18 -0700 Received: from D-128-208-197-85.dhcp4.washington.edu (D-128-208-197-85.dhcp4.washington.edu [128.208.197.85]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46N1Hcx023632 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Tue, 6 May 2003 16:01:17 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 16:02:02 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: <20030507003050.C3354@aslan.narnia.pp.se> References: <20030506234703.G2631@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mats Dufberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@mailer23.u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does it help to realize that Pine nevers sorts *mailboxes*, only its *VIEW* of a mailbox? -teg On Wed, 7 May 2003, Mats Dufberg wrote: > On May 6, 2003, 23:06 (+0100) Barry Landy wrote: > > > :>Well, it would be good if there was a way to resort the messages either > > :>based on time of arrival or date field date, or something else. > > :> > > > > Hullo? $ D sorts by date field. > > Yes, but only until you quit pine. It is powerful because you can have > different sorting i different pine sessions, but it would be more powerful > if you could resort the mail in the mailbox, even if it took some time. > > Sorting by original arrival should be added to the wishlist. Actually, > even if you use MBX format, the first line of the mail contains that > information. > > > Mats > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg > Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 > SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:23:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46NNB4S003015 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:23:11 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46NN8AE011831 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 16:23:09 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h46NG9DE017114; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:16:09 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46NFb1M042880 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:15:37 -0700 Received: from stirling.bwh.harvard.edu (stirling.bwh.harvard.edu [134.174.249.23]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46NFWOp017314 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:15:33 -0700 Received: from chatham.bwh.harvard.edu (chatham [134.174.249.85]) by stirling.bwh.harvard.edu (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA23398; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:15:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sadmk@localhost) by chatham.bwh.harvard.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA10365; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 May 2003 19:15:31 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Douglas Kline To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Terry Gray X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: chatham.bwh.harvard.edu: sadmk owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN That is the answer here. Re-sorting the messages in the mailbox isn't possible if the mailbox is the user's spooling file. That would mean separating out each message individually and re-writing the file, the same file to which incoming messages are appended. Re-writing the index of messages which pine (or some other e-mail client) displays, OTOH, is an internal pine matter. It has the list in memory and can either re-write that list or simply write out the lines in the list in a different order. Re-writing the list makes more sense if the user is going to work with the different order, grouping messages by number for example. Douglas On Tue, 6 May 2003, Terry Gray wrote: > Does it help to realize that Pine nevers sorts *mailboxes*, only its > *VIEW* of a mailbox? > > -teg > > On Wed, 7 May 2003, Mats Dufberg wrote: > > > On May 6, 2003, 23:06 (+0100) Barry Landy wrote: > > > > > :>Well, it would be good if there was a way to resort the messages either > > > :>based on time of arrival or date field date, or something else. > > > :> > > > > > > Hullo? $ D sorts by date field. > > > > Yes, but only until you quit pine. It is powerful because you can have > > different sorting i different pine sessions, but it would be more powerful > > if you could resort the mail in the mailbox, even if it took some time. > > > > Sorting by original arrival should be added to the wishlist. Actually, > > even if you use MBX format, the first line of the mail contains that > > information. > > > > > > Mats > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg > > Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 > > SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:28:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46NSp4S003260 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:28:51 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h46NSmAE011999 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 16:28:49 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h46NOvEg031082; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:24:57 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46NOW1M049712 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:24:33 -0700 Received: from smtp-out.comcast.net (smtp-out.comcast.net [24.153.64.116]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h46NONkD004940 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 16:24:30 -0700 Received: from gort.cjb.net (pcp988290pcs.nchrls01.sc.comcast.net [68.59.9.227]) by mtaout04.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HEH00MPPNOE7X@mtaout04.icomcast.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Tue, 06 May 2003 19:24:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gort.cjb.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72C6EA7AA for ; Tue, 06 May 2003 19:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 19:22:20 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: <20030507003050.C3354@aslan.narnia.pp.se> References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: satyap@gort.cjb.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On May 7, 2003 at 00:37, Mats Dufberg wrote: >Yes, but only until you quit pine. It is powerful because you can have >different sorting i different pine sessions, but it would be more powerful Different pine sessions? >if you could resort the mail in the mailbox, even if it took some time. I do this by creating a temp folder, sorting everything, select all, save to temp folder, delete, go to temp folder, select all, and save back to original folder. Takes less time to do than to describe. >Sorting by original arrival should be added to the wishlist. Actually, >even if you use MBX format, the first line of the mail contains that >information. $a does it. -- Satya. We are sorry, but the number you have dialed is imaginary. Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h472w84S008319 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:58:08 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h472w3F7015954 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 19:58:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h472telW027528; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:55:40 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h472st1M051716 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:54:56 -0700 Received: from cse.cuhk.edu.hk (cucs18.cse.cuhk.edu.hk [137.189.91.190]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h472skf7012596 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:54:50 -0700 Received: from pc89151.cse.cuhk.edu.hk (pc89151.cs.cuhk.hk [137.189.89.151]) by cse.cuhk.edu.hk with ESMTP id h472seW22720; Wed, 7 May 2003 10:54:41 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 10:59:07 +0800 (China Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Sen Sui To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Satya X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ssui@message.cse.cuhk.edu.hk X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=III, Probability=3%, Report="IN_REP_TO, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=III, Probability=3%, Report="IN_REP_TO, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 6 May 2003, Satya wrote: > On May 7, 2003 at 00:37, Mats Dufberg wrote: > > >Yes, but only until you quit pine. It is powerful because you can have > >different sorting i different pine sessions, but it would be more powerful > > Different pine sessions? > > >if you could resort the mail in the mailbox, even if it took some time. > > I do this by creating a temp folder, sorting everything, select all, > save to temp folder, delete, go to temp folder, select all, and save > back to original folder. Takes less time to do than to describe. > > >Sorting by original arrival should be added to the wishlist. Actually, > >even if you use MBX format, the first line of the mail contains that > >information. > > $a does it. $a only sort by arrival time to the mail folder. Not the actual time received by the user inbox. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:59:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h472xY4S008382 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:59:34 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h472xVAE017594 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 19:59:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h472vTEg020784; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:57:29 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h472uH1M051756 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:56:17 -0700 Received: from cse.cuhk.edu.hk (cucs18.cse.cuhk.edu.hk [137.189.91.190]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h472uCkB024677 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:56:13 -0700 Received: from pc89151.cse.cuhk.edu.hk (pc89151.cs.cuhk.hk [137.189.89.151]) by cse.cuhk.edu.hk with ESMTP id h472tpW22798; Wed, 7 May 2003 10:55:52 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 11:00:18 +0800 (China Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Sen Sui To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: References: <20030506234703.G2631@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Terry Gray X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ssui@message.cse.cuhk.edu.hk X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="IN_REP_TO, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="IN_REP_TO, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN In that case, wouldn't it be easier? Since it's more efficient to work with headers only than the whole text? On Tue, 6 May 2003, Terry Gray wrote: > Does it help to realize that Pine nevers sorts *mailboxes*, only its > *VIEW* of a mailbox? > > -teg > > On Wed, 7 May 2003, Mats Dufberg wrote: > > > On May 6, 2003, 23:06 (+0100) Barry Landy wrote: > > > > > :>Well, it would be good if there was a way to resort the messages either > > > :>based on time of arrival or date field date, or something else. > > > :> > > > > > > Hullo? $ D sorts by date field. > > > > Yes, but only until you quit pine. It is powerful because you can have > > different sorting i different pine sessions, but it would be more powerful > > if you could resort the mail in the mailbox, even if it took some time. > > > > Sorting by original arrival should be added to the wishlist. Actually, > > even if you use MBX format, the first line of the mail contains that > > information. > > > > > > Mats > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg > > Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 > > SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 2003 20:01:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h473154S008430 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 20:01:05 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47313AE017679 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 20:01:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h472xSlW022584; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:59:28 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h472wa1M052738 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:58:36 -0700 Received: from cse.cuhk.edu.hk (cucs18.cse.cuhk.edu.hk [137.189.91.190]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h472wXkB025113 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 19:58:34 -0700 Received: from pc89151.cse.cuhk.edu.hk (pc89151.cs.cuhk.hk [137.189.89.151]) by cse.cuhk.edu.hk with ESMTP id h472wGW22925; Wed, 7 May 2003 10:58:17 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 11:02:43 +0800 (China Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Sen Sui To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Douglas Kline X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: ssui@message.cse.cuhk.edu.hk X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="IN_REP_TO, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="IN_REP_TO, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yes. A friend told me it's inefficient to operate on a flat mail folder file. Afterall, it's not a database. But another friend told me that Elm does it right. Ok, so perhaps PINE. :P On Tue, 6 May 2003, Douglas Kline wrote: > > That is the answer here. Re-sorting the messages in the mailbox isn't > possible if the mailbox is the user's spooling file. That would mean > separating out each message individually and re-writing the file, the same > file to which incoming messages are appended. Re-writing the index of > messages which pine (or some other e-mail client) displays, OTOH, is an > internal pine matter. It has the list in memory and can either re-write > that list or simply write out the lines in the list in a different order. > Re-writing the list makes more sense if the user is going to work with the > different order, grouping messages by number for example. > > Douglas > > > On Tue, 6 May 2003, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Does it help to realize that Pine nevers sorts *mailboxes*, only its > > *VIEW* of a mailbox? > > > > -teg > > > > On Wed, 7 May 2003, Mats Dufberg wrote: > > > > > On May 6, 2003, 23:06 (+0100) Barry Landy wrote: > > > > > > > :>Well, it would be good if there was a way to resort the messages either > > > > :>based on time of arrival or date field date, or something else. > > > > :> > > > > > > > > Hullo? $ D sorts by date field. > > > > > > Yes, but only until you quit pine. It is powerful because you can have > > > different sorting i different pine sessions, but it would be more powerful > > > if you could resort the mail in the mailbox, even if it took some time. > > > > > > Sorting by original arrival should be added to the wishlist. Actually, > > > even if you use MBX format, the first line of the mail contains that > > > information. > > > > > > > > > Mats > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg > > > Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 > > > SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 > > > > > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 6 May 2003 22:55:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h475tU4S012579 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 22:55:30 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h475tQF7020016 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 6 May 2003 22:55:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h475r9Eg004986; Tue, 6 May 2003 22:53:09 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h475qR1M026874 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 22:52:27 -0700 Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (mta07-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.47]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h475qOkB024322 for ; Tue, 6 May 2003 22:52:25 -0700 Received: from cam.ac.uk ([80.4.5.243]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.37 201-229-121-137-20020806) with ESMTP id <20030507055223.PGBN25105.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@cam.ac.uk>; Wed, 7 May 2003 06:52:23 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 06:52:23 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Barry Landy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Satya X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: bl10@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report="FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, IN_REP_TO, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, REFERENCES, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE" On Tue, 6 May 2003, Satya wrote: :>I do this by creating a temp folder, sorting everything, select all, :>save to temp folder, delete, go to temp folder, select all, and save :>back to original folder. Takes less time to do than to describe. Exactly! As I recall the Pine team made this possible at my request.(At one time if you did SORT, seclect all, apply save, it did it in folder order rather than index order for efficiency) -- Barry Landy Home: +44-1223-570417 192, Gilbert Road College: +44-1223-332058 Cambridge CB4 3PB Email:BL10@cam.ac.uk From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 2003 00:14:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h477En4S014455 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 00:14:49 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h477EiF7021780 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 00:14:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h477CbEg005090; Wed, 7 May 2003 00:12:37 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h477Ba1M037454 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 00:11:36 -0700 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h477BXf7031001 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 00:11:34 -0700 Received: from [213.78.167.160] ([213.78.167.160]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ACQ81214; Wed, 7 May 2003 08:11:25 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 08:11:50 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine - info @ www.ii.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 7 May 2003 Barry Landy (bl10@cam.ac.uk) wrote: > On Tue, 6 May 2003, Satya wrote: > > :>I do this by creating a temp folder, sorting everything, select all, > :>save to temp folder, delete, go to temp folder, select all, and save > :>back to original folder. Takes less time to do than to describe. > > Exactly! Alternatively the last step could be Rename rather than save back to original folder. Also make sure that the hidden feature save-aggregates-copy-sequence is *not* set otherwise the order may not be preserved. > As I recall the Pine team made this possible at my request.(At one time > if you did SORT, seclect all, apply save, it did it in folder order > rather than index order for efficiency) Mulberry does not preserve the order of the current "View" when doing an aggregate save and this is one (of the many) reasons that I still sometimes use Pine rather than completely switching to Mulberry. Nancy -- Nancy McGough Infinite Ink Log and Discussion --- Computing - Mathematics - Science - Philosophy --- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:58:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h479wB4S021028 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:58:11 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h479w4AE027635 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 02:58:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h479tPlW030078; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:55:27 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h479sd1M023272 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:54:39 -0700 Received: from osmose.hud.ac.uk (osmose.hud.ac.uk [161.112.232.17]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h479sbYT020016 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 02:54:38 -0700 Received: from BARNEY.AD.HUD.AC.UK (actually host barney.hud.ac.uk) by osmose.hud.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer) with ESMTP; Wed, 7 May 2003 10:54:29 +0100 Message-Id: <12B3AE0049C5D511A59A00D0B7B77ED506B90C31@bilbo.hud.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 10:55:18 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Peebles To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Using Pine with MS Exchange 2000 content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: pine-info X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report="SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUPERLONG_LINE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIII, Probability=6%, Report="SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUPERLONG_LINE, TO_LOCALPART_EQ_REAL, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, My university has recently changed its mail server to Microsoft Exchange = 2000 using Active Directory and I'm now having trouble configuring Pine = on my linux machine to send mail. My old solution of setting Pine's = configuration file to: smtp-server =3D old-mail-server/user=3Dmy-user-name doesn't work and when I attempt to send a message I get the error: "SMTP authentication cancelled" I would be grateful if anyone could help me out with this if they've had = a similar experience or know about configuring Pine with Microsoft = Exchange 2000 and Active Directory. Many thanks, David Peebles -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:43:47 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47Jhk4S007474; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:43:46 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47JhiF7011425 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 12:43:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h47JedlW020724; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:40:40 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47Jdf1M017594 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:39:41 -0700 Received: from neutron.corp.ebay.com ([67.72.12.30]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47Jdd86011978 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:39:40 -0700 Received: from [10.254.62.59] (HELO sjc-exf-07.corp.ebay.com) by neutron.corp.ebay.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 5442431 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 07 May 2003 11:41:26 -0700 Received: from SJC-EXM-25.corp.ebay.com ([10.254.58.59]) by sjc-exf-07.corp.ebay.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 7 May 2003 12:39:39 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 12:39:39 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Wical, Troy" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Setting the "reply-to" address content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2003 19:39:40.0124 (UTC) FILETIME=[667591C0:01C314D0] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When I send email, the reply-to address is twical@wicals.com when it should be troy@wicals.com. I assume its putting twical because I am logged into my unix box with twical instead of troy.?.? In the config area I cannot find where to set the reply to address. Is this possible or do I need to create yet another account on my box under 'troy?' Thanks for the help. Troy Wical -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:07:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47K7B4S008405; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:07:11 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47K75AE014941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 13:07:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h47K4ElW025350; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:04:14 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47K3Y1M034518 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:03:34 -0700 Received: from aurora.uaf.edu (aurora.uaf.edu [137.229.18.100]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47K3VkB007187 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:03:31 -0700 Received: from localhost (fxjwk@localhost) by aurora.uaf.edu (8.11.6p2/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h47K3Qj19567; Wed, 7 May 2003 12:03:26 -0800 (AKDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 12:03:25 -0800 (AKDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jo Knox To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Satya X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=II, Probability=2%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 6 May 2003, Satya wrote: > On May 7, 2003 at 00:37, Mats Dufberg wrote: > > >Yes, but only until you quit pine. It is powerful because you can have > >different sorting i different pine sessions, but it would be more powerful > > Different pine sessions? > > >if you could resort the mail in the mailbox, even if it took some time. > > I do this by creating a temp folder, sorting everything, select all, > save to temp folder, delete, go to temp folder, select all, and save > back to original folder. Takes less time to do than to describe. I sort, select all, save to the same folder I'm in---you don't really need the temp folder! jo From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:14:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47KE04S008679; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:14:01 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47KDvAE017360 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 13:13:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h47KBBEg029708; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:11:11 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47KAb1M041596 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:10:37 -0700 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47KAXkC009759 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:10:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h47KATf3007259; Wed, 7 May 2003 22:10:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mats@dufberg.se) Message-Id: <20030507220839.L3354@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 22:10:29 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Setting the "reply-to" address In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dufberg@aslan.narnia.pp.se X-To: "Wical, Troy" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On May 7, 2003, 12:39 (-0700) Wical, Troy wrote: > When I send email, the reply-to address is twical@wicals.com when it > should be troy@wicals.com. I assume its putting twical because I am > logged into my unix box with twical instead of troy.?.? In the config > area I cannot find where to set the reply to address. Is this possible > or do I need to create yet another account on my box under 'troy?' Normally, Pine does not set the reply-to header, but it could be configured to set any reply-to. See "customized-hdrs" in the configuration meny. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:18:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47KIv4S008866; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:18:57 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47KItAE017625 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 13:18:56 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h47KFklW024282; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:15:46 -0700 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47KFJ1M056910 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:15:19 -0700 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47KFFvx026550 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:15:17 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h47KFAf3007276; Wed, 7 May 2003 22:15:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mats@dufberg.se) Message-Id: <20030507221212.L3354@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 22:15:10 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: References: <20030506234703.G2631@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dufberg@aslan.narnia.pp.se X-To: Terry Gray X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On May 6, 2003, 16:02 (-0700) Terry Gray wrote: > Does it help to realize that Pine nevers sorts *mailboxes*, only its > *VIEW* of a mailbox? Well, that is the limitation that I tried to convey. -- I'd like to have both sorting of mailboxes and views of mailboxes. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:26:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47KQ74S009177; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:26:07 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47KQ5AE018053 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 13:26:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h47KM8Eg029764; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:22:08 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47KLU1M026342 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:21:30 -0700 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47KLROq023246 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:21:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h47KLLf3007291; Wed, 7 May 2003 22:21:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mats@dufberg.se) Message-Id: <20030507221630.R3354@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 22:21:21 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dufberg@aslan.narnia.pp.se X-To: Douglas Kline X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On May 6, 2003, 19:15 (-0400) Douglas Kline wrote: > That is the answer here. Re-sorting the messages in the mailbox isn't > possible if the mailbox is the user's spooling file. That would mean > separating out each message individually and re-writing the file, the same > file to which incoming messages are appended. Well, that is what you do when you remove mail from the spool file. If you have a working locking mechanism it is possible. Probably it is better to refrain from sorting the spool file since other programs might save information about the order, but that is not a major problem. You could put the INBOX in you home directory, and then there is no conflict with other programs. And most of my mailboxes are other mailboxes that I'd really like to sort by arrival date. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:33:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47KXq4S009450; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:33:52 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47KXoAE018406 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 13:33:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h47KV166083952; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:31:01 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47KUU1M054106 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:30:30 -0700 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47KURf8009109 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:30:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h47KUOf3007312; Wed, 7 May 2003 22:30:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mats@dufberg.se) Message-Id: <20030507222254.J3354@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 22:30:24 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dufberg@aslan.narnia.pp.se X-To: Satya X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On May 6, 2003, 19:22 (-0400) Satya wrote: > >Yes, but only until you quit pine. It is powerful because you can have > >different sorting i different pine sessions, but it would be more powerful > > Different pine sessions? Yes, I usually have at least two xterm windows each with a pine session to the same mail collection. It is very powerful. For it to work you have to convert you inbox to MBX format (and store it in the home directory). I can have can have one outgoing mail open at the same time as I look for old mail, from which to get information. I always leave pine open on my computer at work. And log in from home and read mail in a new pine session. It works as charm! > >if you could resort the mail in the mailbox, even if it took some time. > > I do this by creating a temp folder, sorting everything, select all, > save to temp folder, delete, go to temp folder, select all, and save > back to original folder. Takes less time to do than to describe. Well, I'd like to see that coded into pine. > >Sorting by original arrival should be added to the wishlist. Actually, > >even if you use MBX format, the first line of the mail contains that > >information. > > $a does it. No, it sorts (the view) by date of arrival to that mailbox. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:38:20 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47KcJ4S009678; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:38:19 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47KcHAE018673 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 13:38:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h47KZvEg021010; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:35:58 -0700 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47KZW1M056912 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:35:32 -0700 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47KZTvx001276 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:35:31 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h47KZKf3007330; Wed, 7 May 2003 22:35:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mats@dufberg.se) Message-Id: <20030507223058.K3354@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 22:35:20 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dufberg@aslan.narnia.pp.se X-To: Sen Sui X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On May 7, 2003, 11:02 (+0800) Sen Sui wrote: > Yes. A friend told me it's inefficient to operate on a flat mail folder > file. Afterall, it's not a database. But another friend told me that Elm > does it right. Ok, so perhaps PINE. :P If you convert to mbx format you get a more efficient format. With mbx format pine can jump from mail to mail in the file since the mail starts with a line that says how large the mail is. If you have a large mailbox you'll see a huge difference. Elm stores each mail in a file, doesn't it? The downside is that is requires more opening and closing of files, which is less efficient. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:56:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47KuN4S010586; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:56:23 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47KuKAE019530 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 13:56:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h47Ks3Eg029840; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:54:03 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47Kq21M037284 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:52:02 -0700 Received: from smtp-out.comcast.net (smtp-out.comcast.net [24.153.64.116]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47Kq0Op002285 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:52:00 -0700 Received: from gort.cjb.net (pcp988290pcs.nchrls01.sc.comcast.net [68.59.9.227]) by mtaout04.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HEJ00B7BB5WYU@mtaout04.icomcast.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 07 May 2003 16:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gort.cjb.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83D6A7AA for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 16:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: <20030507222254.J3354@aslan.narnia.pp.se> References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: satyap@gort.cjb.net X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIIII, Probability=28%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIII, Probability=18%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On May 7, 2003 at 22:30, Mats Dufberg wrote: >Yes, I usually have at least two xterm windows each with a pine session to >the same mail collection. It is very powerful. For it to work you have to >convert you inbox to MBX format (and store it in the home directory). >I always leave pine open on my computer at work. And log in from home and >read mail in a new pine session. Uh... If I tried to do that, it'd "try... to get get mailbox lock from process...". -- Satya. Warning: you are logged into reality as root. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47Kwq4S010680; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:58:52 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47KwoAE019619 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 13:58:51 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h47Ku9DE014890; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:56:09 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47Kqh1M034394 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:52:43 -0700 Received: from smtp-out.comcast.net (smtp-out.comcast.net [24.153.64.116]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47KqfYT002861 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:52:41 -0700 Received: from gort.cjb.net (pcp988290pcs.nchrls01.sc.comcast.net [68.59.9.227]) by mtaout01.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HEJ00FKZB455F@mtaout01.icomcast.net> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 07 May 2003 16:48:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gort.cjb.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86939A7AA for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 16:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 07 May 2003 16:47:56 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: satyap@gort.cjb.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" On May 7, 2003 at 12:03, Jo Knox wrote: >On Tue, 6 May 2003, Satya wrote: >> I do this by creating a temp folder, sorting everything, select all, >> save to temp folder, delete, go to temp folder, select all, and save >> back to original folder. Takes less time to do than to describe. >I sort, select all, save to the same folder I'm in---you don't really need >the temp folder! That'll work, I just don't like writing to the same buffer that I'm reading from. (That's an analogy.) -- Satya. Drop your carrier ... we have you surrounded! From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:01:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47L164S010831; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:01:06 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47L13F7016015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 14:01:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h47KwlDE024166; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:58:48 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47KwT1M034428 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:58:29 -0700 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47KwP86011660 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 13:58:28 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h47KwOf3007378; Wed, 7 May 2003 22:58:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mats@dufberg.se) Message-Id: <20030507225554.K3354@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 22:58:24 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dufberg@aslan.narnia.pp.se X-To: Satya X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On May 7, 2003, 16:48 (-0400) Satya wrote: > On May 7, 2003 at 22:30, Mats Dufberg wrote: > > >Yes, I usually have at least two xterm windows each with a pine session to > >the same mail collection. It is very powerful. For it to work you have to > >convert you inbox to MBX format (and store it in the home directory). > > >I always leave pine open on my computer at work. And log in from home and > >read mail in a new pine session. > > Uh... If I tried to do that, it'd "try... to get get mailbox lock from > process...". Yes, because you have not converted your mbx format. Maybe it is only necessary to move the inbox to your home directory. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47L864S011100; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:08:06 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47L83AE020073 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 14:08:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h47L68DE028236; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:06:08 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47L5e1M037214 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:05:40 -0700 Received: from 64.207.39.69 ([64.207.39.69]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h47L5bf7022744 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 14:05:37 -0700 Received: from 12-208-224-221.client.attbi.com [12.208.224.221] by 64.207.39.69 (AppleMailServer 10.2.3.0) id 9909 via TCP with SMTP; Wed, 07 May 2003 15:02:40 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 15:05:32 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Bartosh To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: kerberos, pine and Mac OS X In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIII, Probability=13%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_X_MAILER, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Anyone gotten pine to do kerberos auth on Mac OS X (for either imap or smtp?) I get : [Server disables LOGIN, no recognized SASL authenticator] The build appeared to go correctly... Mail.app works fine with kerb auth on the same account/ server. Server is specified like this: inbox-path={bw.4am-media.com}INBOX Thanks- http://www.4am-media.com Mac OS X Consulting and Training Michael Bartosh mbartosh@4am-media.com 303.517.0272 Denver, CO "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher regard those who think alike than those who think differently." - -- Nietzsche Think Different. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 7 May 2003 15:46:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47Mka4S014928; Wed, 7 May 2003 15:46:37 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h47MkWF7019743 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 7 May 2003 15:46:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h47MiBEg017920; Wed, 7 May 2003 15:44:11 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47MhJ1M037528 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 15:43:20 -0700 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu (moultrie.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.7]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h47MhH85018441 for ; Wed, 7 May 2003 15:43:17 -0700 Received: from rigel (rigel.cse.sc.edu [129.252.130.115]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6FE51E405; Wed, 7 May 2003 18:43:16 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 17:43:16 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Setting the "reply-to" address In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Wical, Troy" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@rigel X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 7 May 2003, Wical, Troy wrote: > When I send email, the reply-to address is twical@wicals.com when it > should be troy@wicals.com. I assume you meant From: header, and not Reply-To: because Reply-To is set only when you say so. http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/write.html#changefrom http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/write.html#replyto -- Gopi Sundaram http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 2003 06:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48DIU4S006106; Thu, 8 May 2003 06:18:30 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48DINAE013285 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 8 May 2003 06:18:24 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h48DG966094446; Thu, 8 May 2003 06:16:09 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h48DEs1M020366 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 06:14:54 -0700 Received: from stirling.bwh.harvard.edu (stirling.bwh.harvard.edu [134.174.249.23]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h48DEqYT008490 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 06:14:52 -0700 Received: from chatham.bwh.harvard.edu (chatham [134.174.249.85]) by stirling.bwh.harvard.edu (8.9.3p2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23892; Thu, 8 May 2003 09:15:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sadmk@localhost) by chatham.bwh.harvard.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id JAA15636; Thu, 8 May 2003 09:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 09:14:49 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Douglas Kline To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Article ordering in Pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Sen Sui X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: chatham.bwh.harvard.edu: sadmk owned process doing -bs X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report="MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, X_AUTH_WARNING, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report="MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, X_AUTH_WARNING, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN elm, at least in my experience, reads the spooling file and does not re-order it. It was observed earlier that e-mail clients must necessarily edit the spooling file in order to remove messages which have been deleted for moved to other folders. It was observed in response that that editing happens only at the close of an e-mail execution. I think it is possible with at least some e-mail clients to cause such operations to take effect without exiting the e-mail client. However that operation requires much less memory use and time in which the spooling file must be locked. In fact, it would be possible to perform such an edit without making a copy of the spooling file. It would be necessary to maintain in memory only the contents of blocks which are being over-written. Since the edited file will necessarily be shorter than it was before being edited, allocation of new disk blocks wouldn't be necessary and the amount of the file being written at a time could be set at the programmer's discretion to any number of disk sectors. Douglas On Wed, 7 May 2003, Sen Sui wrote: > Yes. A friend told me it's inefficient to operate on a flat mail folder > file. Afterall, it's not a database. But another friend told me that Elm > does it right. Ok, so perhaps PINE. :P > > On Tue, 6 May 2003, Douglas Kline wrote: > > > > > That is the answer here. Re-sorting the messages in the mailbox isn't > > possible if the mailbox is the user's spooling file. That would mean > > separating out each message individually and re-writing the file, the same > > file to which incoming messages are appended. Re-writing the index of > > messages which pine (or some other e-mail client) displays, OTOH, is an > > internal pine matter. It has the list in memory and can either re-write > > that list or simply write out the lines in the list in a different order. > > Re-writing the list makes more sense if the user is going to work with the > > different order, grouping messages by number for example. > > > > Douglas > > > > > > On Tue, 6 May 2003, Terry Gray wrote: > > > > > Does it help to realize that Pine nevers sorts *mailboxes*, only its > > > *VIEW* of a mailbox? > > > > > > -teg > > > > > > On Wed, 7 May 2003, Mats Dufberg wrote: > > > > > > > On May 6, 2003, 23:06 (+0100) Barry Landy wrote: > > > > > > > > > :>Well, it would be good if there was a way to resort the messages either > > > > > :>based on time of arrival or date field date, or something else. > > > > > :> > > > > > > > > > > Hullo? $ D sorts by date field. > > > > > > > > Yes, but only until you quit pine. It is powerful because you can have > > > > different sorting i different pine sessions, but it would be more powerful > > > > if you could resort the mail in the mailbox, even if it took some time. > > > > > > > > Sorting by original arrival should be added to the wishlist. Actually, > > > > even if you use MBX format, the first line of the mail contains that > > > > information. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mats > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg > > > > Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 > > > > SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 > > > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48H8c4S012709; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:08:38 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48H8YF7016409 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 8 May 2003 10:08:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h48H6KDE016744; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:06:20 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h48H5N1M056164 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:05:23 -0700 Received: from neutron.corp.ebay.com ([67.72.12.30]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h48H5Lf8007164 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:05:22 -0700 Received: from [10.254.62.56] (HELO sjc-exf-05.corp.ebay.com) by neutron.corp.ebay.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.0.6) with ESMTP id 5522927; Thu, 08 May 2003 09:07:16 -0700 Received: from SJC-EXM-25.corp.ebay.com ([10.254.58.59]) by sjc-exf-05.corp.ebay.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 8 May 2003 10:05:21 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 10:05:21 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Wical, Troy" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Setting the "reply-to" address content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: "Gopi Sundaram" X-Cc: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6375.0 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 May 2003 17:05:21.0889 (UTC) FILETIME=[0288C510:01C31584] X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Ah I see. I am however having problems find my .pinerc file. Any help? Thx Troy -----Original Message----- From: Gopi Sundaram [mailto:gopalan@cse.sc.edu]=20 Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 3:43 PM To: Wical, Troy Cc: Pine Discussion Forum On Wed, 7 May 2003, Wical, Troy wrote: > When I send email, the reply-to address is twical@wicals.com when it > should be troy@wicals.com. I assume you meant From: header, and not Reply-To: because Reply-To is set only when you say so. http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/write.html#changefrom http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/write.html#replyto --=20 Gopi Sundaram http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:28:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48HSU4S013537; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:28:30 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48HSRAE021687 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 8 May 2003 10:28:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h48HQCEg029072; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:26:12 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h48HPV1M041944 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:25:31 -0700 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu (moultrie.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.7]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h48HPR85022245 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:25:27 -0700 Received: from pollux (pollux.cse.sc.edu [129.252.130.113]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30E31E405; Thu, 8 May 2003 13:25:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 12:25:26 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Setting the "reply-to" address In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Wical, Troy" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@pollux X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 8 May 2003, Wical, Troy wrote: > Ah I see. I am however having problems find my .pinerc file. Any help? Should be in your $HOME directory. For PC-Pine, I'm not sure. In any case, for most of the methids sugested, you don't need to maually edit your .pinerc file. Just use the config screen from Pine: (M)ain (S)etup (C)onfig -- Gopi Sundaram http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:45:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48Hj24S014266; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:45:02 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48HiuAE022327 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 8 May 2003 10:44:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h48Hgm66082730; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:42:48 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h48HgA1M018022 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:42:10 -0700 Received: from vax.hanford.org (vax.hanford.org [216.218.218.27]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h48Hg6YT021901 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 10:42:07 -0700 Received: (qmail 20903 invoked by uid 1828); 8 May 2003 17:42:00 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 10:42:00 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: security messages... help MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXIIIIIIIII, Probability=49%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXXI, Probability=51%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've gotten this message a few times recently (deleting white space): There was an SSL/TLS failure for the server mail.apple.com The reason for the failure was SSL negotiation failed This is just an informational message. With the current setup, SSL/TLS will not work. If this error re-occurs every time you run Pine, your current setup is not compatible with the configuration of your mail server. You may want to add the option /notls to the name of the mail server you are attempting to access. In other words, wherever you see the characters mail.apple.com in your configuration, replace those characters with mail.apple.com/notls Type RETURN to continue. I don't see it every time, but I tried adding that to my configuration anyway, and I still saw the message today (once so far). i.e. my configuration is: {mail.apple.com/notls/user=mattack}INBOX Is this related to the [SECURITY PROBLEM: insecure server advertised AUTH=PLAIN] message that I get *EVERY* time I try to go to a new folder? I have asked about this a few times, but never gotten an answer. I have _NO_ idea what this message means nor how I can configure pine (even if it involves recompiling) to get past it. It started several months ago. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:53:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48Iro4S017367; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:53:50 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48IrkAE025106 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 8 May 2003 11:53:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h48IpIEg038226; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:51:19 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h48Ioa1M027098 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:50:36 -0700 Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h48IoVYT014297 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 11:50:32 -0700 Received: from eng-23.pacdigital (unknown [66.238.63.180]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA07D99525 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 14:50:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 11:50:22 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kenneth Crudup To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: security messages... help In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kenny@eng-23.pacdigital X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXI, Probability=41%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH, X_OSIRU_SPAM_SRC, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXIIIIIIIII, Probability=49%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MISSING_HEADERS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH, X_OSIRU_SPAM_SRC, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 8 May 2003, Matt Ackeret wrote: > i.e. my configuration is: > {mail.apple.com/notls/user=mattack}INBOX > > Is this related to the > [SECURITY PROBLEM: insecure server advertised AUTH=PLAIN] > > message that I get *EVERY* time I try to go to a new folder? I have asked > about this a few times, but never gotten an answer. I have _NO_ idea what > this message means It's benign (it's essentially a "You're sending your password across the internet unencrypted, dude!" message), but it is *annoying*, and yeah, you have to // it out to get rid of it. -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Los Angeles, CA Home: 3801 E. Pacific Coast Hwy #9, Long Beach, CA 90804-2014 (888) 454-8181 Work: 2052 Alton Parkway, Irvine, CA 92606-4905 (949) 252-1111 X240 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 2003 12:20:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48JK94S018301; Thu, 8 May 2003 12:20:09 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48JK6AE026171 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 8 May 2003 12:20:06 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h48JHRDE004744; Thu, 8 May 2003 12:17:28 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h48JGl1M028170 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 12:16:47 -0700 Received: from vax.hanford.org (vax.hanford.org [216.218.218.27]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h48JGiYT023517 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 12:16:44 -0700 Received: (qmail 26258 invoked by uid 1828); 8 May 2003 19:16:44 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 12:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: invalid headers? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXIIIIIIIII, Probability=49%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXIIIIIIIII, Probability=49%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN So on one message I'm seeing some of the headers in the message even with headers hidden. Here's a chunk of it: Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 20:57:07 +0530 From: Raghunatha Reddy To: carbon-development@lists.apple.com Cc: raghunat reddy Subject: How to change the proxy settings through program Received: from blr-ec-bh2.wipro.com ([10.200.50.92]) by ecvwall4 with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 08 May 2003 20:50:54 +0530 Received: from blr-ec-msg02.wipro.com ([10.200.51.99]) by blr-ec-bh2.wipro.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 8 May 2003 20:57:14 +0530 I checked the same message in a GUI mail reader and they show up there too.. Here's a bit on the boundary: Received: from ecvwall4 (ecvwall4.wipro.com [10.200.52.14]) by wiproecmx2.wipro.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id h48FQw504211 for ; Thu, 08 May 2003 20:56:58 +0530 (IST) Received: from blr-ec-bh2.wipro.com ([10.200.50.92]) by ecvwall4 with InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 08 May 2003 20:50:54 +0530 Received: from blr-ec-msg02.wipro.com ([10.200.51.99]) by blr-ec-bh2.wipro.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 08 May 2003 20:57:14 +0530 Received: from wipro.com ([192.6.8.110]) by blr-ec-msg02.wipro.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 08 May 2003 20:57:14 +0530 Is that "InterScan" part an invalid header? Can/should they be contacted about it somehow? From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 2003 12:44:09 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48Ji94S019368; Thu, 8 May 2003 12:44:09 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48Ji3AE027001 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 8 May 2003 12:44:04 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h48JfN66083796; Thu, 8 May 2003 12:41:23 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h48Jei1M033176 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 12:40:44 -0700 Received: from mail.bellhow.com (fw.pqbs.com [63.121.54.5]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h48Jed85008301 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 12:40:43 -0700 Received: from rfdevel.bellhow.com (rfdevel.bellhow.com [192.168.16.73]) by mail.bellhow.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h48JemJt002494; Thu, 8 May 2003 15:40:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (herrick@localhost) by rfdevel.bellhow.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.3) with ESMTP id PAA14675; Thu, 8 May 2003 15:40:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 15:40:24 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: daniel lance herrick To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: invalid headers? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Matt Ackeret X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: rfdevel.bellhow.com: herrick owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: herrick@rfdevel.bellhow.com X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIII, Probability=23%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, X_AUTH_WARNING, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIII, Probability=13%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, X_AUTH_WARNING, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 8 May 2003, Matt Ackeret wrote: > So on one message I'm seeing some of the headers in the message even You won't like this answer: You're not seeing headers, you are seeing body. To try to be more helpful: The blank line between Subject: and Received: in your quoted material below is the boundary between headers and body. Something copied header material into the body of the message. The Received: headers are added to the message one at a time, each being added at the top of the message, one being added by each entity that handles the message. The culprit could be the Interscan Messaging Security Suite or any entity that handled the message after that header was available to copy (in other words, the authors of the Received: headers before the Interscan Received: header or some stealthy violater of the standards that handled the message and did not add a Received: header). > with headers hidden. Here's a chunk of it: > > Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 20:57:07 +0530 > From: Raghunatha Reddy > To: carbon-development@lists.apple.com > Cc: raghunat reddy > Subject: How to change the proxy settings through program > > Received: from blr-ec-bh2.wipro.com ([10.200.50.92]) by ecvwall4 with > InterScan Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 08 May 2003 20:50:54 +0530 > Received: from blr-ec-msg02.wipro.com ([10.200.51.99]) by > blr-ec-bh2.wipro.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 8 May > 2003 20:57:14 +0530 > > > I checked the same message in a GUI mail reader and they show up there too.. > > Here's a bit on the boundary: > > Received: from ecvwall4 (ecvwall4.wipro.com [10.200.52.14]) > by wiproecmx2.wipro.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id h48FQw504211 for > ; Thu, 08 May 2003 20:56:58 +0530 (IST) > Received: from blr-ec-bh2.wipro.com ([10.200.50.92]) by ecvwall4 with > InterScan > Messaging Security Suite; Thu, 08 May 2003 20:50:54 +0530 > Received: from blr-ec-msg02.wipro.com ([10.200.51.99]) > by blr-ec-bh2.wipro.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, > 08 May 2003 20:57:14 +0530 > Received: from wipro.com ([192.6.8.110]) by blr-ec-msg02.wipro.com with > Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 08 May 2003 20:57:14 +0530 > > > Is that "InterScan" part an invalid header? > Can/should they be contacted about it somehow? The "InterScan" part is valid. Headers may be continued on the following lines by beginning the second and later lines with whitespace. Your "bit on the boundary" contains four Received: headers, one with one continuation line and three, including the InterScan one, with two continuation lines. If you copy the message to a scratch mailbox and then look into the mailbox with a text editor (emacs, vi, notepad, ed) you'll see two copies of the offending headers, one copy in the headers and one copy in the body of the message. dan From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 2003 15:14:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48MEN4S024990 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 15:14:23 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h48MEHF7027929 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 8 May 2003 15:14:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h48MC066015682; Thu, 8 May 2003 15:12:01 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h48M9o1M031012 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 15:09:50 -0700 Received: from postal.usc.edu (postal.usc.edu [128.125.253.6]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h48M9mf7031393 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 15:09:49 -0700 Received: from aludra.usc.edu (aludra.usc.edu [128.125.253.184]) by postal.usc.edu (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.14 (built Mar 18 2003)) with ESMTP id <0HEL009JB9KCP5@postal.usc.edu> for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 08 May 2003 15:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 15:09:48 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: kwhite To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: complex problem MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIII, Probability=15%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXII, Probability=22%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN my university recently changed how mail is handled. before, each machine ran its own mail process, but now one server handles all incoming mail and users can access it through either a web interface or through a pop/imap client. since i have been using pine for years and want to continue (no possible email viruses when used through unix session), i have set up pine to connect and get my mail. i save any mail i keep locally, and space in my account is not a problem. unfortunately, the move to the new server either broadcasted our account addresses or they've stopped some previous spam filtering, and i've been bit with a wave of spam. what i'd like to do is find some way to use something like spamassassin with my current setup. the most direct rout, with me needing to only type in one password each time i want to check mail, would be to have pine auto save all the mail locally as it came in from the mail server (as it gets checked), but have the mail filtered externally as it gets saved locally. then all i have to do is keep looking at one local file and the spam magically goes away. once i have this set up, i've talked with others in my department and they'd like to do the same. caveats: i am not root. i use pine 4.33, but might be able to get later version installed. i'd like to only have to type in my password once each time i get mail. what i envision is a filter that somehow pipes incoming mail to spamassassin, which then applies its rules, possibly followed by another filter on the local file that moves spam marked files to another folder. i'm asking this here because a search of the archives gave me a close example but one that included fetchmail which isn't an option (no local MTD access, password authentication insecure if auto). it also seems like something that will be asked about more and more often as mail servers aggregate all incoming mail at universities (where pine is used mainly, as far as i know). Thanks for any help, Kevin White USC Physics Dept. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 2003 18:43:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h491hf4S031558 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 18:43:41 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h491hcAE006990 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 8 May 2003 18:43:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h491fQEg034636; Thu, 8 May 2003 18:41:26 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h491dG1M032818 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 18:39:16 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h491dEf7024903 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 18:39:14 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h491dEu7349583 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 18:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 18:39:14 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.55 crashes when taking rules MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIII, Probability=18%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, Pine 4.55 is crashing when using the "T" command to take a role (or anything other than an address). This requires the configuration option enable-rules-under-take to be enabled. A patch to fix this bug can be found in my web page (address below). -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 8 May 2003 19:09:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4929f4S032241 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 19:09:41 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4929bF7002682 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 8 May 2003 19:09:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4927Y66092576; Thu, 8 May 2003 19:07:34 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4925e1M024990 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 19:05:40 -0700 Received: from mail-out1.apple.com (mail-out1.apple.com [17.254.0.52]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4925bOp025483 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 19:05:37 -0700 Received: from mailgate2.apple.com (A17-129-100-225.apple.com [17.129.100.225]) by mail-out1.apple.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4925b3h010274 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 19:05:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scv3.apple.com (scv3.apple.com) by mailgate2.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 19:05:37 -0700 Received: from ackema.apple.com (ackema.apple.com [17.202.14.80]) by scv3.apple.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4925aRr011803 for ; Thu, 8 May 2003 19:05:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 8 May 2003 19:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Is there some way I can debug rules? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-X-Sender: mattack@localhost X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIII, Probability=24%, Report="DISCLAIMER, MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __EVITE_CTYPE, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIII, Probability=15%, Report="DISCLAIMER, MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, __EVITE_CTYPE, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a maximum length for the text pattern for a rule? Disclaimer, this is on 4.33.. My personal acct hasn't been updated past then, because they're using something that makes it difficult to update pine. (I think it's qmail, but again I may be wrong.) Basically, I have a setscores rule that if it's to me or my mailing lists (recipient), it gets a score of 100. And I have various spam setscores rules that give a score of -100. Then I have a filter rule that from -INF, 99 moves things to suspected-spam. Lately my rules seem to be busted, and I really don't get it. I just had a message that had me in the to line go to suspect-spam. I have no idea why this is happening, and it's baffling. (I did just realize I could try (-inf,-1) and then hopefully some more things would stay in my INBOX..) -- top-posting: It's just a bad idea. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 2003 03:24:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h49AOu4S012555 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 03:24:56 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h49AOoAE019364 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 9 May 2003 03:24:50 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h49AMq66086198; Fri, 9 May 2003 03:22:52 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h49ALG1M052142 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 03:21:16 -0700 Received: from mail-d.bcc.ac.uk (mail-d.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.24]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h49ALDkB010191 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 03:21:14 -0700 Received: from pop-b.ucl.ac.uk by mail-d.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer) with ESMTP; Fri, 9 May 2003 11:21:11 +0100 Received: from dan-hatton.geol.ucl.ac.uk (dan-hatton.geol.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.78.74]) by pop-b.ucl.ac.uk (8.11.7+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h49AL7k14818 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 11:21:07 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 11:27:32 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dan Hatton To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Undocumented symbols in message index MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: dan@DAN-HATTON.geol.ucl.ac.uk X-UCL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIII, Probability=25%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" This list has been silent for a goodly while; time to liven things up. Recently, I've noticed the following two symbols appearing in the message index screen in Pine: A full stop (.) between the size and subject of a message. The double character |- at the start of a message's subject. I believe that certainly the first, and probably the second, represent Pine trying to tell me something about the messages. However, neither the context help screen, nor anything I can find on the web, tell me what. Any ideas, please? -- Thank you Dan Hatton -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 2003 05:29:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h49CTp4S016272 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 05:29:51 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h49CTkF7017373 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 9 May 2003 05:29:47 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h49CRoEg019846; Fri, 9 May 2003 05:27:51 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h49CQQ1M055526 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 05:26:26 -0700 Received: from alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de (alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de [134.102.20.22]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h49CQNYT025485 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 05:26:24 -0700 Received: from OEKO ([134.102.104.105]) by alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de (8.12.8/8.12.8/ZfNServer) with ESMTP id h49CQJ0F303948; Fri, 9 May 2003 14:26:20 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 14:26:50 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Stefan Goessling-Reisemann To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Undocumented symbols in message index In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Dan Hatton X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: stefang@mail.desy.de X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIII, Probability=13%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIII, Probability=13%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 9 May 2003, Dan Hatton wrote: DH> A full stop (.) between the size and subject of a message. DH> DH> The double character |- at the start of a message's subject. To my knowledge this is Pine's way to display a threaded view of your inbox (i.e. sorted by Topic/Thread) Change the display settings with $ and one of the options given in the lower menu bar (A, S, D, F, and so on) Best regards, Stefan From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h49Enx4S019170; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:49:59 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h49EnrAE026134 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 9 May 2003 07:49:54 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h49EldEg021212; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:47:39 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h49Eke1M013866 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:46:40 -0700 Received: from mail-a.bcc.ac.uk (mail-a.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.21]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h49EkbOp030630 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 07:46:38 -0700 Received: from pop-b.ucl.ac.uk by mail-a.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer) with ESMTP; Fri, 9 May 2003 15:46:27 +0100 Received: from dan-hatton.geol.ucl.ac.uk (dan-hatton.geol.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.78.74]) by pop-b.ucl.ac.uk (8.11.7+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h49EkLt19113 for ; Fri, 9 May 2003 15:46:21 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 15:52:48 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dan Hatton To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Undocumented symbols in message index In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: dan@DAN-HATTON.geol.ucl.ac.uk X-UCL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" On Fri, 9 May 2003, Stefan Goessling-Reisemann wrote: > DH> A full stop (.) between the size and subject of a message. > DH> > DH> The double character |- at the start of a message's subject. > > To my knowledge this is Pine's way to display a threaded view of your > inbox (i.e. sorted by Topic/Thread) Ah... So if there were a few more of them, my inbox would look like a tree. I get it now. -- Dan From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 11 May 2003 22:14:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4C5Ed4S014090; Sun, 11 May 2003 22:14:39 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4C5EZAE023940 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 11 May 2003 22:14:36 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4C5CGDE015912; Sun, 11 May 2003 22:12:17 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4C5Al1M027274 for ; Sun, 11 May 2003 22:10:47 -0700 Received: from a.smtp-out.sonic.net (a.smtp-out.sonic.net [208.201.224.38]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4C5AjOp016105 for ; Sun, 11 May 2003 22:10:45 -0700 Received: (qmail 27902 invoked from network); 12 May 2003 05:10:45 -0000 Received: from tempest.sonic.net (208.201.224.25) by a.smtp-out.sonic.net with SMTP; 12 May 2003 05:10:45 -0000 Received: from 02-175.140.popsite.net (02-175.140.popsite.net [66.248.49.175]) by tempest.sonic.net (8.11.6p2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id h4C5AiB22004 for ; Sun, 11 May 2003 22:10:44 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 11 May 2003 22:13:26 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bob Holtzman To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine options MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-envelope-info: X-X-Sender: holtzm@localhost.localdomain X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXII, Probability=32%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIII, Probability=18%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN After using Pine on my Linux box for a number of years, I decided to ditch my ever more frustrating windows mail client and install PC-Pine. With Linux I use fetchmail to poll my ISP's pop server. What happens in PC-Pine? does it depend on the interval set in the configuration file and poll as long as the box is connected to the internet? If not, what is the procedure to download mail? Lastly, I had my windows client set to leave the messages on the server. I don't see a way to do this with PC-Pine. Did I miss it or can't it be done? Thanks for any pointers. -- Bob Holtzman "If you think you're getting free lunch, ......check the price of the beer!" -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 2003 02:03:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4C93Y4S020068; Mon, 12 May 2003 02:03:34 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4C93TAE029042 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 12 May 2003 02:03:30 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4C91GDE019164; Mon, 12 May 2003 02:01:16 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4C90E1M049204 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 02:00:14 -0700 Received: from msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.148]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4C90CYT031567 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 02:00:12 -0700 Received: from 213-78-70-31.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-70-31.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.70.31]) by msgdirector1.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ACV91103; Mon, 12 May 2003 09:59:58 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 10:00:30 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine options In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine - info @ www.ii.com X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NOSPAM_INC, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 11 May 2003 Bob Holtzman (holtzm@sonic.net) wrote: > > With Linux I use fetchmail to poll my ISP's pop server. What happens in > PC-Pine? If you are using PC-Pine 4.55, you can use the new maildrop feature and the #move namespace to snarf messages from POP servers (and from NNTP and IMAP servers too). For details go to Main > RelNotes (MR) and read the Pine built-in Help files on this. > does it depend on the interval set in the configuration file and > poll as long as the box is connected to the internet? The frequency of polling is determined by mail-check-interval and maildrop-check-minimum. The Pine built-in Help explains all this. > Lastly, I had my windows client set to leave the messages on the server. I > don't see a way to do this with PC-Pine. Did I miss it or can't it be done? Not using the the maildrop and #move features but you could possibly set up Pine filters to do this. If you want to leave messages on the server, I recommend that you switch to using IMAP rather than POP. Nowadays there are lots of good inexpensive IMAP providers, for example mailsnare.net charges $20/year for 50 MB of space and you can get an extra 250 MB of space for a one-time fee of $24.95. They also have tools for automatically snarfing up to 10 external IMAP/POP accounts so you could consolidate all your mail there and then access using PC-Pine or any IMAP client on any machine. There are hundreds of other possible IMAP service providers, many of which I list here Hope this helps, Nancy -- Nancy McGough Infinite Ink From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 2003 08:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4CF4m4S029689 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 08:04:48 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4CF4jF7030727 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 12 May 2003 08:04:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4CF2H66086124; Mon, 12 May 2003 08:02:17 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4CF1G1M025922 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 08:01:16 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4CF1EOp005546 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 08:01:14 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4CF1Eu7151712; Mon, 12 May 2003 08:01:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 08:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine options In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bob Holtzman X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Bob Holtzman (holtzm@sonic.net) wrote in the pine-info list on May 11, 2003: :) With Linux I use fetchmail to poll my ISP's pop server. What happens in :) PC-Pine? does it depend on the interval set in the configuration file :) and poll as long as the box is connected to the internet? If not, what :) is the procedure to download mail? Pine has nothing to do with fetchmail. The intervals that appear in the configuration file of Pine have nothing to do with checks for new mail in POP, unless you use the maildrop feature of Pine. There is information about maildrops in the release notes (press M R). Additional information can be obtained from my web page at http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/pine-info/maildrop/ :) Lastly, I had my windows client set to leave the messages on the :) server. I don't see a way to do this with PC-Pine. Did I miss it or :) can't it be done? Pine leaves the e-mail in the server when it accesses the mail using POP3. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 2003 10:43:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4CHh64S003974 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 10:43:06 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4CHgxF7004222 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 12 May 2003 10:42:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4CHeeEg037202; Mon, 12 May 2003 10:40:40 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4CHdc1M018710 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 10:39:38 -0700 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4CHdXf7018250 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 10:39:36 -0700 Received: from [213.78.170.56] ([213.78.170.56]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ACY54428; Mon, 12 May 2003 18:39:30 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 18:40:04 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine options In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine - info @ www.ii.com X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIII, Probability=5%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NOSPAM_INC, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 12 May 2003 Eduardo Chappa (chappa@math.washington.edu) wrote: > > :) Lastly, I had my windows client set to leave the messages on the > :) server. I don't see a way to do this with PC-Pine. Did I miss it or > :) can't it be done? > > Pine leaves the e-mail in the server when it accesses the mail using POP3. Ah yes, Eduardo is right. After reading Bob's message about fetchmail my brain shifted into snarfing-mail-with-#move mode and I completely forgot about the old way that Pine does POP. It has a lot of problems, which you will discover when you start experimenting with it. I discuss Accessing and "Popping" POP Inboxes on my Power Pine page here Hope this is helpful, Nancy -- Nancy McGough Infinite Ink Log and Discussion --- Computing - Mathematics - Science - Philosophy --- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:02:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4CJ2a4S007685 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:02:37 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4CJ2WAE015346 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 12 May 2003 12:02:32 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4CJ0TDE025760; Mon, 12 May 2003 12:00:29 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4CIxe1M061966 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 11:59:40 -0700 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4CIxbOp026143 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 11:59:38 -0700 Received: from [213.78.170.56] ([213.78.170.56]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ACY61702; Mon, 12 May 2003 19:59:18 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 19:59:51 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: snarfing & filtering (Was: complex problem) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: kwhite X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine - info @ www.ii.com X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=I, Probability=1%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NOSPAM_INC, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, TO_LOCALPART_EQ_REAL, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 8 May 2003 kwhite (kwhite@aludra.usc.edu) wrote: > > what i'd like to do is find some way to use something like > spamassassin with my current setup. the most direct rout, with me > needing to only type in one password each time i want to check mail, > would be to have pine auto save all the mail locally as it came in > from the mail server (as it gets checked), but have the mail filtered > externally as it gets saved locally. then all i have to do is keep > looking at one local file and the spam magically goes away. > > [...] > > i'm asking this here because a search of the archives gave me a close > example but one that included fetchmail which isn't an option (no > local MTD access, password authentication insecure if auto). it also > seems like something that will be asked about more and more often as > mail servers aggregate all incoming mail at universities (where pine > is used mainly, as far as i know). One possibility is to get your admin to install Pine 4.55 and then you'll be able to use the new maildrop and #move features to snarf the messages from the server using the POP protocol. Then you can set up POPFile on your local system (the system on which you run Pine) and have POPFile proxy all your POP activity. The architecture will look like this: +---------------+ | POP Server | +---------------+ | | +---------------+ | POPFile Proxy | +---------------+ | | +---------------+ | Pine 4.55 | +---------------+ Then set up filters in Pine to process the messages based on the headers that POPFile inserts in the messages. POPFile and its original author John Graham-Cumming are getting a lot of good press lately and from what I've read (and I read *a lot* about mail-filtering tools), it seems that it's the best tool around for doing the type of thing you'd like to do. You can find out all about it, including links to all the media attention here: Hope this helps, Nancy posted & cc'd -- Nancy McGough Infinite Ink From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4CMrP4S018140; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:53:25 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4CMrLF7015663 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 12 May 2003 15:53:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4CMowEg018118; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:50:59 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4CMo61M051964 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:50:06 -0700 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (mail-out2.apple.com [17.254.0.51]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4CMo3YT019886 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:50:03 -0700 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (A17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4CMo3nB009571 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scv1.apple.com (scv1.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:49:49 -0700 Received: from ackema.apple.com (ackema.apple.com [17.202.14.80]) by scv1.apple.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4CMo2Nx023669 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 15:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 15:50:00 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: AllText uses rendered text? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-X-Sender: mattack@localhost X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIII, Probability=18%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __EVITE_CTYPE, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIII, Probability=13%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, __EVITE_CTYPE, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Does the AllText pattern for matching use the 'rendered' version? I think it does, but I'm not sure. I added http:// as one of the things it searches for, but that isn't triggering. (I want http:// in a message to be a spam trigger.) Yes I realize responses to this would theoretically hit my filter when it works. But why isn't it working? (I still haven't found answers to the various security problems I've been running into over the past few weeks.. it's aggravating to use pine on my work account nowadays when I get these warnings every time I go into a new mailbox.) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 12 May 2003 16:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4CN9J4S018824; Mon, 12 May 2003 16:09:19 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4CN9GF7016184 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 12 May 2003 16:09:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4CN6q66082814; Mon, 12 May 2003 16:06:53 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4CN6C1M051732 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 16:06:12 -0700 Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4CN6A85029687 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 16:06:10 -0700 Received: from [10.253.27.106] (m018f36d0.tmodns.net [208.54.143.1]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DC799424 for ; Mon, 12 May 2003 19:06:02 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 12 May 2003 16:05:57 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kenneth Crudup To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: AllText uses rendered text? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kenny@ProStar.localdomain X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MISSING_HEADERS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 12 May 2003, Matt Ackeret wrote: > (I still haven't found answers to the various security problems I've been > running into over the past few weeks.. it's aggravating to use pine on my > work account nowadays when I get these warnings every time I go into > a new mailbox.) Dude- it's *not* a real "warning"- you can ignore it, and if it bugs you, just comment it out- I did! -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Los Angeles, CA Home: 3801 E. 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However, I don't want to have to put /usr/local/bin/ssh or imapserver (the actual name of the server) or myusername (the actual username) ... the %s's of the default ssh-command: ssh-command="%s %s -l %s exec /etc/r%sd" are supposed to take care of that, correct? Well, it doesn't work for me. I tried only using the %s for any ONE of the 4 variables, but it doesn't work for any of them individually, either. Is there some build flag in pine that I'm overlooking for this? Or some .pinerc setting? Also: oddly, the servername (imapserver) won't work when fully-qualified: imapserver.mycompany.com. Strange? Yes. Thoughts? Thanks! -Hugh -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 2003 14:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4DLk14S029924 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 14:46:01 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4DLjqAE031941 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 13 May 2003 14:45:55 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4DLguEg029712; Tue, 13 May 2003 14:42:57 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4DLgG1M060214 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 14:42:16 -0700 Received: from moultrie.cse.sc.edu (moultrie.cse.sc.edu [129.252.138.7]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4DLgDYT023069 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 14:42:14 -0700 Received: from rigel (rigel.cse.sc.edu [129.252.130.115]) by moultrie.cse.sc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BE8C1E405; Tue, 13 May 2003 17:42:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 16:42:13 -0500 (CDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Gopi Sundaram To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problem with %s expansion (ssh) In-Reply-To: <000701c31993$01471b30$37087ba5@wharton.upenn.edu> References: <000701c31993$01471b30$37087ba5@wharton.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Hugh MacMullan X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gopalan@rigel X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 13 May 2003, Hugh MacMullan wrote: > Also: oddly, the servername (imapserver) won't work when > fully-qualified: imapserver.mycompany.com. Strange? Yes. Thoughts? Define "won't work". Take a look at the .pine.debug1 file to see what Pine gets back from the server when it tries the ssh. The FQDN may not be in your known_hosts file. So ssh to the FQDN once, verify and accept the key, and then try Pine. -- Gopi Sundaram http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 2003 14:53:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4DLrP4S030269 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 14:53:26 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4DLrNAE032235 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 13 May 2003 14:53:23 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4DLUSEg007940; Tue, 13 May 2003 14:30:29 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4DLTo1M060290 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 14:29:50 -0700 Received: from mail3.panix.com (mail3.panix.com [166.84.1.74]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4DLTlf7016398 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 14:29:48 -0700 Received: from [192.168.4.207] (unknown [66.238.63.180]) by mail3.panix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9899098222 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 17:29:46 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 14:29:44 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Kenneth Crudup To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problem with %s expansion (ssh) In-Reply-To: <000701c31993$01471b30$37087ba5@wharton.upenn.edu> References: <000701c31993$01471b30$37087ba5@wharton.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kenny@ProStar.localdomain X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXIIII, Probability=44%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH, X_OSIRU_SPAM_SRC, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXXI, Probability=51%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MISSING_HEADERS, RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH, X_OSIRU_SPAM_SRC, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 13 May 2003, Hugh MacMullan wrote: > Hey, I've gotten pine with ssh/imap working: Why would I use this vs. standard SSL/TLS IMAP from my provider? Just curious, -Kenny -- Kenneth R. Crudup Sr. SW Engineer, Scott County Consulting, Los Angeles, CA Home: 3801 E. Pacific Coast Hwy #9, Long Beach, CA 90804-2014 (888) 454-8181 Work: 2052 Alton Parkway, Irvine, CA 92606-4905 (949) 252-1111 X240 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 2003 15:35:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4DMZS4S032093 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 15:35:28 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4DMZQF7024393 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 13 May 2003 15:35:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4DMWg66089914; Tue, 13 May 2003 15:32:42 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4DMVr1M054692 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 15:31:53 -0700 Received: from mirapoint.kettering.edu (mirapoint.kettering.edu [192.138.137.82]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4DMVpf7006964 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 15:31:52 -0700 Received: from nova.kettering.edu (nova.kettering.edu [192.138.137.2]) by mirapoint.kettering.edu (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.3.3-GR) with ESMTP id ACD29011; Tue, 13 May 2003 18:31:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 18:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "R. Stewart Ellis" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Search anomalies in pine 4.55 In-Reply-To: References: <000701c31993$01471b30$37087ba5@wharton.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIII, Probability=16%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NOSPAM_INC, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have been using pine 3.95q directly on the mailspool for years because when 4.x first came out, and for the next several releases until I quit tracking it, pine was unable to find text within [] on the Subject: line, which several of the lists I subscribe to use to flag their messages in your mailbox. We have just changed our mail distribution scheme on campus to force everyone to use IMAP and I wanted the increased security of ssl, so I tried the latest version of pine (4.53) installed on campus, and I found really bizarre behavior when doing aggregate search commands, which I use extensively to sort and manage folders. pine could not find all sorts of strings in the Subject: header, such as =?big5? at the beginning of the Subject: header. Searching on all text for big5 also failed to select the above messages. Similar searches for other Asian charset strings in the Subject: header failed to showup. I read something about improved searching in headers in the release notes for 4.55, so I compiled and installed it local to my account, and it handled some situations better. Searching comp.mail.pine on google or the pine-info archive I found some statement that pine does not expose anything on the Subject: line within square brackets because the IMAP standard says you are not supposed to. I have not checked the IMAP standard yet, but if that is true it is both bizarre and insane. I was considering hacking the source to fix that behavior (and also investigate adding regex ability to searches) when I ran into a discussion in pine-info in March where Eduardo Chappa told someone to use the 'w' command followed by ^X to match all messages in the index that show a given string. Interestingly enough, this gets past the problems I not above in finding certain strings within the Subject: line. However, I still do not understand why the search commands would not work orthogonally. Why can I search within the [] with w but not with ;th ??? I would appreciate discussion, justification, plus any leads on making this work the way I want, including the ability to use regexes. Stew Ellis -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Prof.of Appl.Socl. Informatics Kettering University/ Liberal Studies Dept. ellis@kettering.edu () ___________________ Flint, MI 48504 810-762-9765 Free speech&software /\ / _____ ______ Sec/abuse Team; Webmaster emeritus: www.kettering.edu /________/ / / / / -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 2003 16:16:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4DNG44S001316 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 16:16:04 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4DNG1AE002870 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 13 May 2003 16:16:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4DNCwlW014236; Tue, 13 May 2003 16:12:58 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4DNCL1M038858 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 16:12:21 -0700 Received: from mail.home.macmullan.org (pool-151-197-112-197.phil.east.verizon.net [151.197.112.197]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4DNCJ86024531 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 16:12:20 -0700 Received: from hughpc (host-192-168-1-221 [192.168.1.221]) by mail.home.macmullan.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h4DNCF34012659 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 19:12:18 -0400 Message-Id: <000401c319a7$bde37860$dd01a8c0@home.macmullan.org> Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 19:31:09 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Hugh MacMullan" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Problem with %s expansion (ssh) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "'Pine Discussion Forum'" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIII, Probability=5%, Report="IN_REP_TO, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_OSIRUSOFT_COM, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, X_OSIRU_DUL, X_OSIRU_DUL_FH, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __IN_REP_TO" Thanks, Gopi! Doh. Getting the FQDN into the known_hosts did the trick. Fixed both problems ... it was using FQDN with the %s so it failed, so the 'second' problem was actually symptomatic of the entire issue! Thanks again, Hugh -----Original Message----- From: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu [mailto:PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu] On Behalf Of Gopi Sundaram Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 5:42 PM To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problem with %s expansion (ssh) On Tue, 13 May 2003, Hugh MacMullan wrote: > Also: oddly, the servername (imapserver) won't work when > fully-qualified: imapserver.mycompany.com. Strange? Yes. Thoughts? Define "won't work". Take a look at the .pine.debug1 file to see what Pine gets back from the server when it tries the ssh. The FQDN may not be in your known_hosts file. So ssh to the FQDN once, verify and accept the key, and then try Pine. -- Gopi Sundaram http://www.zrox.net/Mail/Pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 13 May 2003 18:18:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4E1Ii4S005039 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 18:18:44 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4E1IeF7029560 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 13 May 2003 18:18:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4E1FxEg014868; Tue, 13 May 2003 18:15:59 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4E1FJ1M038788 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 18:15:19 -0700 Received: from tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts11.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.55]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4E1FGkB002311 for ; Tue, 13 May 2003 18:15:17 -0700 Received: from m7r5n9 ([64.231.252.80]) by tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.19 201-253-122-122-119-20020516) with SMTP id <20030514011508.FZKB26449.tomts11-srv.bellnexxia.net@m7r5n9>; Tue, 13 May 2003 21:15:08 -0400 Message-Id: <002f01c319b6$3fe7bd40$4412fea9@m7r5n9> Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 21:14:14 -0400 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "bill douglas" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Search anomalies in pine 4.55 References: <000701c31993$01471b30$37087ba5@wharton.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-To: "R. Stewart Ellis" , "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXI, Probability=21%, Report="PRIORITY_NO_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, REFERENCES, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __REFERENCES" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_OUTLOOK_IN_MAILER, __HAS_X_MAILER, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_OE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN can you help find lost Email thank's villium ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. Stewart Ellis" To: "Pine Discussion Forum" Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 6:31 PM Subject: Search anomalies in pine 4.55 > I have been using pine 3.95q directly on the mailspool for years > because when 4.x first came out, and for the next several releases > until I quit tracking it, pine was unable to find text within [] on > the Subject: line, which several of the lists I subscribe to use to > flag their messages in your mailbox. > > We have just changed our mail distribution scheme on campus to force > everyone to use IMAP and I wanted the increased security of ssl, so I > tried the latest version of pine (4.53) installed on campus, and I > found really bizarre behavior when doing aggregate search commands, > which I use extensively to sort and manage folders. pine could not > find all sorts of strings in the Subject: header, such as =?big5? at > the beginning of the Subject: header. Searching on all text for big5 > also failed to select the above messages. Similar searches for other > Asian charset strings in the Subject: header failed to showup. > > I read something about improved searching in headers in the release > notes for 4.55, so I compiled and installed it local to my account, > and it handled some situations better. > > Searching comp.mail.pine on google or the pine-info archive I found > some statement that pine does not expose anything on the Subject: line > within square brackets because the IMAP standard says you are not > supposed to. I have not checked the IMAP standard yet, but if that is > true it is both bizarre and insane. > > I was considering hacking the source to fix that behavior (and also > investigate adding regex ability to searches) when I ran into a > discussion in pine-info in March where Eduardo Chappa told someone to > use the 'w' command followed by ^X to match all messages in the index > that show a given string. Interestingly enough, this gets past the > problems I not above in finding certain strings within the Subject: > line. However, I still do not understand why the search commands > would not work orthogonally. Why can I search within the [] with > w > but not with ;th > > ??? > > I would appreciate discussion, justification, plus any leads on making > this work the way I want, including the ability to use regexes. > > > Stew Ellis > -- > R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Prof.of Appl.Socl. Informatics Kettering University/ > Liberal Studies Dept. ellis@kettering.edu () ___________________ > Flint, MI 48504 810-762-9765 Free speech&software /\ / _____ ______ > Sec/abuse Team; Webmaster emeritus: www.kettering.edu /________/ / / / / > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4E7Bt4S013738 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:11:55 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4E7BqAE015351 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 14 May 2003 00:11:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4E79GEg041146; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:09:16 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4E7351M046708 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:03:09 -0700 Received: from mail.araneidae.co.uk (pc2-oxfd2-4-cust9.oxfd.cable.ntl.com [62.254.143.9]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4E72wkC000723 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:03:04 -0700 Received: from saturn.araneidae.co.uk (michael@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4E72vHo031784 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 07:02:57 GMT (envelope-from michael@saturn.araneidae.co.uk) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by saturn.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6p2/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h4E72vXs031781 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 07:02:57 GMT Message-Id: <20030514065734.Q31770@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 07:02:57 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Abbott To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: New feature in Pine 4.55 ? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIII, Probability=26%, Report="DONT_DELETE, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIIIII, Probability=29%, Report="DONT_DELETE, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've just upgraded pine from 4.53 (I think) to 4.55 (on FreeBSD); I retrieve my mail directly from my mailbox, /var/mail/michael on the same machine. Previously pine would leave my mailbox empty after retrieving my mail. Now it leaves behind the message below. This message is definitely being created by pine, and not by the mailer daemon as it seems to claim. Why has this message suddenly started to appear, and how can I get rid of it? Many thanks, Michael Abbott >From MAILER-DAEMON Wed May 14 06:42:06 2003 Date: 14 May 2003 06:42:06 +0000 From: Mail System Internal Data Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA Message-ID: <1052894526@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> X-IMAP: 1052894497 0000000003 Status: RO This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created with the data reset to initial values. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:32:50 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4E7Wo4S014217 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:32:50 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4E7WlAE015793 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 14 May 2003 00:32:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4E7ULlW017960; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:30:21 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4E7TV1M023234 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:29:33 -0700 Received: from mail.araneidae.co.uk (pc2-oxfd2-4-cust9.oxfd.cable.ntl.com [62.254.143.9]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4E7TN86004903 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:29:30 -0700 Received: from saturn.araneidae.co.uk (michael@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4E7TLHo034970; Wed, 14 May 2003 07:29:21 GMT (envelope-from michael@saturn.araneidae.co.uk) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by saturn.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6p2/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h4E7TL4B034967; Wed, 14 May 2003 07:29:21 GMT Message-Id: <20030514072100.X34955@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 07:29:21 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Abbott To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New feature in Pine 4.55 ? In-Reply-To: <0305140017560.81995@neobe.cnanfb.pbz> References: <20030514065734.Q31770@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> <0305140017560.81995@neobe.cnanfb.pbz> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Tim Baur X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 14 May 2003, Tim Baur wrote: > guess you didnt bother to google for the answer, considering the first > page is full of answers. and no, this is not a "new feature" in 4.55, as > it's existed in every 4.x version. Well, *something* has changed: before upgrading to pine 4.55: After running pine my incoming mailbox /var/mail/michael is empty and running `from` displays nothing. This is how I like it. after upgrading to pine 4.55: Before running pine my incoming mailbox has an ordinary incoming message in it and `from` shows me who it's from. After running pine it has the message under discussion and `from` displays MAILER-DAEMON. On Wed, 14 May 2003, Tim Baur wrote: > 1) What is this mail "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA"? > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Subject: DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE -- FOLDER INTERNAL DATA > > This text is part of the internal format of your mail folder, and is not a > real message. It is created automatically by the mail system software. If > deleted, important folder data will be lost, and it will be re-created > with the data reset to initial values. > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > The above message is placed automatically in your mailbox by the mail > server when you use Internet Message Access Protocol (IMAP) or a POP (Post > Office Protocol) client such as Netscape that needs unique message > numbers. In its heading it stores information such as the last unique > message number for your mail. This analysis does not seem to be applicable. In particular, I am not using IMAP or POP to read the message, and it is definitely not being placed into my mailbox (the file /var/mail/michael) until I run pine. I have seen these messages in the mailboxes run by pine, and I'm not concerned about them. However, this message has started to appear in my main incoming mail box. I suspect you may be confused between my use of pine and some other use of this system. > > If you delete it, your whole mailbox area will be re-scanned to assign new > message numbers. This will take some time and some folders may be missed, > causing you to lose information. > > If you use IMAP, which allows you to manipulate your messages on the > server, or if you use Netscape, make sure you do not delete the above > message! > > Under normal circumstances, the only way you will see the mail system > message is if you check your mail using a Unix based mail program such as > Pine. Sometimes, when there is a "glitch" in the system, it will become > visible to mail reading programs such as Eudora and Netscape. > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:37:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4E7bA4S014348 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:37:10 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4E7b6F7006330 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 14 May 2003 00:37:06 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4E7Z5Eg015032; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:35:05 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4E7Ya1M023162 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:34:36 -0700 Received: from mail.panaso.com (mail.panaso.com [199.60.48.162]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4E7YY85005834 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:34:34 -0700 Received: (qmail 3082 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 07:34:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.panaso.com with SMTP; 14 May 2003 07:34:29 -0000 Message-Id: <0305140031550.81995@neobe.cnanfb.pbz> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 00:34:29 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Tim Baur To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New feature in Pine 4.55 ? In-Reply-To: <20030514072100.X34955@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> References: <20030514065734.Q31770@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> <0305140017560.81995@neobe.cnanfb.pbz> <20030514072100.X34955@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-PGP: 0x44DB0D83 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 14 May 2003, Michael Abbott wrote: > I suspect you may be confused between my use of pine and some other use > of this system. No, I'm not. -tbaur FEATURE: quell-folder-internal-msg This feature determines whether or not Pine will create "pseudo messages" in folders that are in standard Unix or MMDF format. Pine will normally create these pseudo messages when they are not already present in a standard Unix or MMDF folder. Their purpose is to record certain mailbox state data needed for correct IMAP and POP server operation, and also for Pine to be able to mark messages as Answered when the Reply has been postponed. Sites which do not use IMAP/POP for remote mail access, and which need to support mail tools that are adversely affected by the presence of the pseudo-messages (e.g. some mail notification tools) may enable this feature to tell Pine not to create them. Note that Pine's "Answered" flag capability will be adversely affected if this is done. Note too that, even if this feature is enabled, Pine will not remove pseudo-messages when it encounters them (e.g. those created by UW's imapd or ipopd servers.) This feature has no effect on folders that are not in standard Unix or MMDF format, as pseudo-messages are not needed in the other formats to record mailbox state information. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:56:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4E7uT4S015174 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:56:30 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4E7uQF7006807 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 14 May 2003 00:56:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4E7rslW026094; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:53:55 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4E7rF1M026480 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:53:15 -0700 Received: from mail.araneidae.co.uk (pc2-oxfd2-4-cust9.oxfd.cable.ntl.com [62.254.143.9]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4E7rC86008948 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 00:53:14 -0700 Received: from saturn.araneidae.co.uk (michael@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4E7rBHo035064; Wed, 14 May 2003 07:53:11 GMT (envelope-from michael@saturn.araneidae.co.uk) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by saturn.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6p2/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h4E7rAB4035061; Wed, 14 May 2003 07:53:10 GMT Message-Id: <20030514074300.Q35027@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 07:53:10 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Abbott To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New feature in Pine 4.55 ? In-Reply-To: <0305140031550.81995@neobe.cnanfb.pbz> References: <20030514065734.Q31770@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> <0305140017560.81995@neobe.cnanfb.pbz> <20030514072100.X34955@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Tim Baur X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > FEATURE: quell-folder-internal-msg Ok. Now I am partly enlightened, and partly confused. 1. What is the difference between the following three mailboxes: /var/mail/ ~/mbox ~/mail/ ? I would *like* pine to do whatever it pleases with everything under ~/mail/, in particular I'd like it to keep full internal information here. So it seems that quell-folder-internal-msg is not what I want. I have discovered that if ~/mbox exists then pine will read everything from /var/mail/ into ~/mbox when I run pine. This is ok, and works for me. So previously it seemed there was a transfer of mail thus: /var/mail/ -> ~/mbox -> ~/mail/ and ~/mbox and on are managed using the "pseudo message". 2. What has changed when I upgraded to 4.55 (from 4.53, I think)? Taking a closer look, it would appear that pine is no longer reading /var/mail/ into ~/mbox. *This* is perhaps the heart of my problem. I have changed nothing in the configuration (I haven't touched my configuration), but pine seems to have forgotten that ~/mbox exists. So now it seems mail goes: /var/mail/ -> ~/mail/ and /var/mail/ is now managed using the "pseudo message". > > This feature determines whether or not Pine will create "pseudo messages" > in folders that are in standard Unix or MMDF format. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 2003 01:19:07 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4E8J74S016666 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 01:19:07 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4E8IxAE017162 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 14 May 2003 01:19:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4E8GrDE031386; Wed, 14 May 2003 01:16:53 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4E8GD1M038138 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 01:16:13 -0700 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4E8GAOp031121 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 01:16:11 -0700 Received: from 213-78-76-171.friaco.onetel.net.uk (213-78-76-171.friaco.onetel.net.uk [213.78.76.171]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ADA50638; Wed, 14 May 2003 09:15:52 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 09:16:27 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Problem with %s expansion (ssh) In-Reply-To: References: <000701c31993$01471b30$37087ba5@wharton.upenn.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine - info @ www.ii.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 13 May 2003 Kenneth Crudup (kenny@panix.com) wrote: > On Tue, 13 May 2003, Hugh MacMullan wrote: > > > Hey, I've gotten pine with ssh/imap working: > > Why would I use this vs. standard SSL/TLS IMAP from my provider? If you have ssh access to the system that's running the IMAP server, the advantage over SSL/TLS is that you can access the IMAP server using ssh keys rather than passwords. This is useful if you want to avoid typing your password and you are using a version of Pine that was not built with PASSFILE support. And even if you have the option of using the Pine PASSFILE, it's better because the Pine PASSFILE is very easy to crack (I do it every time I forget a password!). Hope this makes sense, Nancy -- Nancy McGough Infinite Ink From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 2003 01:24:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4E8OQ4S017057 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 01:24:26 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4E8OMF7007633 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 14 May 2003 01:24:22 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4E8IMlW021990; Wed, 14 May 2003 01:18:23 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4E8I41M037888 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 01:18:04 -0700 Received: from mail.panaso.com (mail.panaso.com [199.60.48.162]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4E8I3Op031479 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 01:18:03 -0700 Received: (qmail 4381 invoked from network); 14 May 2003 08:17:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.panaso.com with SMTP; 14 May 2003 08:17:58 -0000 Message-Id: <0305140107210.3950@neobe.cnanfb.pbz> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 01:17:58 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Tim Baur To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New feature in Pine 4.55 ? In-Reply-To: <20030514074300.Q35027@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> References: <20030514065734.Q31770@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> <0305140017560.81995@neobe.cnanfb.pbz> <20030514072100.X34955@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-PGP: 0x44DB0D83 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 14 May 2003, Michael Abbott wrote: > Taking a closer look, it would appear that pine is no longer reading > /var/mail/ into ~/mbox. *This* is perhaps the heart of my > problem. ok. then please review: http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/unix.html http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/mbox.html mbox driver bug and patch A bug was introduced in Pine 4.55 which can break the "mbox" functionality for some users. mbox allows you to have a traditional UNIX format INBOX in a file called "mbox" in your UNIX home directory. Incoming mail is automatically moved from the spool directory into the mbox file. [...] perhaps that's all that is needed to solve your problem, but it won't change the pseudo messages from appearing. enable quell-folder-internal-msg ... also, stating that the pseudo messages "manage" your mbox, or spool file is not accurate. they dont "manage" anything. they assist in recording state data, that is all. you should never even see them unless editing the raw text. -tbaur From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 2003 08:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4EFWh4S028959; Wed, 14 May 2003 08:32:43 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4EFWdF7018838 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 14 May 2003 08:32:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4EFUMlW009800; Wed, 14 May 2003 08:30:22 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4EFTM1M012286 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 08:29:22 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4EFTKYT007989 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 08:29:20 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4EFTDu7412003; Wed, 14 May 2003 08:29:14 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 08:29:13 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New feature in Pine 4.55 ? In-Reply-To: <20030514065734.Q31770@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> References: <20030514065734.Q31770@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Abbott X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIIIIII, Probability=36%, Report="DONT_DELETE, MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIIIIII, Probability=36%, Report="DONT_DELETE, MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Michael Abbott (michael@araneidae.co.uk) wrote in the pine-info list today: :) I've just upgraded pine from 4.53 (I think) to 4.55 (on FreeBSD); I :) retrieve my mail directly from my mailbox, /var/mail/michael on the :) same machine. :) :) Previously pine would leave my mailbox empty after retrieving my mail. :) Now it leaves behind the message below. This message is definitely :) being created by pine, and not by the mailer daemon as it seems to :) claim. :) :) Why has this message suddenly started to appear, and how can I get rid :) of it? This is a bug in pine4.55. The intent of the message is that it will not be created in mailboxen that do not contain it. Take a look at this message by Mark Crispin: http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.NXT.4.30.0005051317460.2119-100000%40Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU If you don't have web access at this moment, it says (among other things) the following: The infamous "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE" pseudo-message is no longer applied to existing UNIX-format mailboxes which don't have it; although it will still be written to newly-created mailboxes. There's a new way of storing the data which is more fragile, but hopefully more flame-proof. If you did not make any changes to the default compilation of Pine, then an empty mailbox is in "UNIX" (sic) format, and since it existed (meaning it was not created by Pine), no pseudo message should be added to it. The above mentioned message was posted in the year 2000. I haven't seen any explicit change in documentation ever since, and you are right, it stopped working in Pine4.55, without any documentation change/warning. Enabling quell-internal-message (or so) will get you around it, but you are right, this *is* a bug. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 14 May 2003 08:46:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4EFk24S029452; Wed, 14 May 2003 08:46:03 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4EFjxF7019321 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 14 May 2003 08:46:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4EFgl66089046; Wed, 14 May 2003 08:42:47 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4EFfa1M021622 for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 08:41:37 -0700 Received: from mail.araneidae.co.uk (pc2-oxfd2-4-cust9.oxfd.cable.ntl.com [62.254.143.9]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4EFfWYU011991 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 May 2003 08:41:34 -0700 Received: from saturn.araneidae.co.uk (michael@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6p2/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4EFfPHo037071; Wed, 14 May 2003 15:41:25 GMT (envelope-from michael@saturn.araneidae.co.uk) Received: from localhost (michael@localhost) by saturn.araneidae.co.uk (8.12.6p2/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id h4EFfPF0037068; Wed, 14 May 2003 15:41:25 GMT Message-Id: <20030514153150.I37052@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 15:41:25 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Abbott To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New feature in Pine 4.55 ? In-Reply-To: References: <20030514065734.Q31770@saturn.araneidae.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 14 May 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Michael Abbott (michael@araneidae.co.uk) wrote in the pine-info list > today: > > :) I've just upgraded pine from 4.53 (I think) to 4.55 (on FreeBSD); I > :) > :) Previously pine would leave my mailbox empty after retrieving my mail. > :) Now it leaves behind the message below. ... > :) > :) Why has this message suddenly started to appear, and how can I get rid > :) of it? > > This is a bug in pine4.55. The intent of the message is that it will not > be created in mailboxen that do not contain it. Take a look at this > message by Mark Crispin: > > http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.NXT.4.30.0005051317460.2119-100000%40Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU > > > The infamous "DON'T DELETE THIS MESSAGE" pseudo-message is no longer > applied to existing UNIX-format mailboxes which don't have it; although it > will still be written to newly-created mailboxes. There's a new way of > storing the data which is more fragile, but hopefully more flame-proof. > > > If you did not make any changes to the default compilation of Pine, then > an empty mailbox is in "UNIX" (sic) format, and since it existed (meaning > it was not created by Pine), no pseudo message should be added to it. The > above mentioned message was posted in the year 2000. I haven't seen any > explicit change in documentation ever since, and you are right, it stopped > working in Pine4.55, without any documentation change/warning. > > Enabling quell-internal-message (or so) will get you around it, but you > are right, this *is* a bug. Hmm. Well, there was perhaps also another bug. This morning Tim Baur pointed me to a useful defect report about pine 4.55: On Wed, 14 May 2003, Tim Baur wrote: > On Wed, 14 May 2003, Michael Abbott wrote: > > Taking a closer look, it would appear that pine is no longer reading > > /var/mail/ into ~/mbox. *This* is perhaps the heart of my > > problem. > > ok. then please review: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/unix.html > http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/mbox.html > > mbox driver bug and patch Applying the workaround suggested in this link solved my problem: I am now back to processing my mail via ~/mbox, and I'm happy to have the internal message in ~/mbox -- I just wanted it out of my spool, and everything's back to normal now. Two bugs at once! Sigh. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 16 May 2003 16:04:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4GN454S004570; Fri, 16 May 2003 16:04:05 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4GN41AE032616 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 16 May 2003 16:04:02 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4GN1PEg029860; Fri, 16 May 2003 16:01:26 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4GMwl1M015956 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 15:58:47 -0700 Received: from b.smtp-out.sonic.net (b.smtp-out.sonic.net [208.201.224.39]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4GMwj85011618 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 15:58:45 -0700 Received: (qmail 4433 invoked from network); 16 May 2003 22:58:45 -0000 Received: from sub.sonic.net (208.201.224.8) by b.smtp-out.sonic.net with SMTP; 16 May 2003 22:58:45 -0000 Received: from 03-194.140.popsite.net (03-194.140.popsite.net [66.248.50.194]) by sub.sonic.net (8.11.6p2/8.8.5) with ESMTP id h4GMwic20551 for ; Fri, 16 May 2003 15:58:44 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 16 May 2003 16:03:11 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bob Holtzman To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine options In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-envelope-info: X-X-Sender: holtzm@localhost.localdomain X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I inadvertently emailed this only to Nancy when I meant to post to the list. Apologies. Thanks to you and Eduardo. I've *almost* got it working. The only problem remaining is that only some of the messages make it thru the filters. After the messages are downloaded (and all modem activity ceases) and filtered, a warning shows up that a number of messages remain in INBOX which would be the ISP's server. If I boot Linux and run fetchmail and then mailstat, the number of messages shown equals the sum of PC-Pine's filtered messages and the number reported as still in INBOX. At this point I'm almost there but need a pointer to explain this situation. Thanks again. -- Bob Holtzman "If you think you're getting free lunch, ......check the price of the beer!" From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 May 2003 04:18:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4IBIM4S021578; Sun, 18 May 2003 04:18:22 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4IBIHAE018381 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 18 May 2003 04:18:18 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4IBFhDE019072; Sun, 18 May 2003 04:15:44 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4IBEF1M032232 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 04:14:15 -0700 Received: from msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk [212.67.96.149]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4IBE8Op007821 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 04:14:13 -0700 Received: from [213.78.170.88] ([213.78.170.88]) by msgdirector2.onetel.net.uk (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 3.2.2-GA) with ESMTP id ADE57801; Sun, 18 May 2003 12:13:37 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 12:13:14 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nancy McGough To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine options In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bob Holtzman X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Message-Flag: Worried about Outlook viruses? Switch to Mac/Unix/PC Pine - info @ www.ii.com X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NOSPAM_INC, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 16 May 2003 Bob Holtzman (holtzm@sonic.net) wrote: > Thanks to you and Eduardo. I've *almost* got it working. The only problem > remaining is that only some of the messages make it thru the filters. > After the messages are downloaded (and all modem activity ceases) and > filtered, a warning shows up that a number of messages remain in INBOX > which > would be the ISP's server. If I boot Linux and run fetchmail and then > mailstat, the number of messages shown equals the sum of PC-Pine's filtered > messages and the number reported as still in INBOX. At this point I'm > almost there but need a pointer to explain this situation. Before we can help you, we need to know how you've set things up. Eduardo and I suggested a number of things, namely: * use Pine 4.55's new maildrop and #move features * use Pine's /pop3 qualifier * use Pine's filters * use an external snarf tool such as fetchmail or mailutil * use a combination of the above Please let us know how you've set things up and we'll try to help. Thanks, Nancy -- Nancy McGough Infinite Ink From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4IHft4S000613; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:41:55 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4IHfqF7017272 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 18 May 2003 10:41:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4IHdplW032880; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:39:52 -0700 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4IHcj1M051518 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:38:46 -0700 Received: from post.webmailer.de (natsmtp01.webmailer.de [192.67.198.81]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4IHcgvw012365 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 10:38:43 -0700 Received: from localhost (x1-6-00-e0-7d-8b-92-b7.k150.webspeed.dk [80.162.15.60]) by post.webmailer.de (8.12.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id h4IHcfYH013031 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 19:38:41 +0200 (MEST) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 501) id B0C581B4AFF; Sun, 18 May 2003 19:37:35 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96CD81B4AF9 for ; Sun, 18 May 2003 19:37:35 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 May 2003 19:37:34 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Claus Atzenbeck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: NNTP password MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Mailinglist Pine-Info X-X-Sender: claus@cumulus.local X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIII, Probability=15%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXII, Probability=22%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi! Is there an easy way to store my nntp-server password like you can do with tin (add "nntp-server passwd login" in .newsauth)? I am asked for my nntp password every time I start pine. :-( Thanks for any hint! Claus -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 May 2003 02:00:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4J90I4S022237; Mon, 19 May 2003 02:00:18 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4J90FF7005470 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 19 May 2003 02:00:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4J8w8lW027994; Mon, 19 May 2003 01:58:08 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4J8uk1M061372 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 01:56:47 -0700 Received: from elanus.its.uu.se (Elanus.its.UU.SE [130.238.4.143]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4J8uhf7019597 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 01:56:44 -0700 Received: from elanus (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id 06DCD4A6E for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 10:56:41 +0200 (DFT) Received: from elanus.its.uu.se(127.0.0.1) by elanus.its.uu.se via virus-scan id s22174; Mon, 19 May 03 10:56:28 +0200 Received: from geopard.math.uu.se (geopard.math.uu.se [130.238.149.4]) by elanus.its.uu.se (Postfix) with SMTP id A5EFF48CC for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 10:56:27 +0200 (DFT) Received: (qmail 31734 invoked by uid 0); 19 May 2003 08:56:34 -0000 Received: from anarchy.math.uu.se (130.238.149.103) by geopard.math.uu.se with SMTP; 19 May 2003 08:56:34 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 10:56:29 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Christian Nygaard To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine color? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIII, Probability=18%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIII, Probability=13%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is it possible to get ansi-16color working with a Windows Terminal emulator client? Any hints on what terminal emulator softare and term settings to use? 8color mode works good but its slightly on the gray side. Cheers, Chris -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:10:35 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4JEAY4S031452; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:10:34 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4JEASF7013327 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 19 May 2003 07:10:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4JE80DE033262; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:08:00 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4JE6e1M020780 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:06:40 -0700 Received: from nimbus.anzio.com (nimbus.anzio.com [66.129.212.98]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4JE6cOp028255 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:06:39 -0700 Received: from nimbus.anzio.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by nimbus.anzio.com (8.12.9/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h4JEBZdJ015600; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:11:35 -0700 Received: from localhost (ras@localhost) by nimbus.anzio.com (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id h4JEBX3R015597; Mon, 19 May 2003 07:11:34 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 07:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bob Rasmussen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine color? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christian Nygaard X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=II, Probability=2%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=II, Probability=2%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 19 May 2003, Christian Nygaard wrote: > > Is it possible to get ansi-16color working with a Windows Terminal emulator > client? Any hints on what terminal emulator softare and term settings to > use? 8color mode works good but its slightly on the gray side. The Anzio emulator in VT320 mode suppoers 16 colors. You can even fine tune each color. Anzio also has mouse support for Pine/Pico - just set a DUSPLAY environment variable. Regards, ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: ras@anzio.com company e-mail: rsi@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 May 2003 15:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4JMul4S024152 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 15:56:47 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4JMuiF7000367 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 19 May 2003 15:56:45 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4JMrnEg019744; Mon, 19 May 2003 15:53:49 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4JMqv1M029776 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 15:52:57 -0700 Received: from server1.shellworld.net (server1.shellworld.net [64.39.15.178]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4JMqtf8017803 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 15:52:56 -0700 Received: from server1.shellworld.net (ricklew@LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by server1.shellworld.net (8.12.8/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h4JMqsWP071984 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 17:52:54 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ricklew@shellworld.net) Received: from localhost (ricklew@localhost) by server1.shellworld.net (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h4JMqssC071981 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 15:52:54 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ricklew@shellworld.net) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 15:52:54 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Rick Lewis To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Reading pop3 mail from a Unix shell account In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: server1.shellworld.net: ricklew owned process doing -bs X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIII, Probability=16%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, X_AUTH_WARNING, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, X_AUTH_WARNING, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This one has me puzzled, yet I'm not sure it should, since I've done this in PC-Pine successfully enough. I'd like to use a pinerc file to have access to my account from a POP3 server which is on a different provider from my shell account. So when I invoke this pop3 pinerc, I don't want to see my default inbox at all, only the messages which are on the pop3 server. Can this be done, and, if so, what's the easiest way? Maybe it's something I'm doing, but when specifying the inbox-path for pop3, I still see only the normal inbox from my shell account. I don't need to reply to messages in this way, just read them, and possibly delete them. Thanks! --Rick -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 19 May 2003 18:43:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4K1hI4S029261 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 18:43:18 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4K1hFF7005352 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 19 May 2003 18:43:15 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4K1fF66088902; Mon, 19 May 2003 18:41:15 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4K1eT1M046664 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 18:40:29 -0700 Received: from server1.shellworld.net (server1.shellworld.net [64.39.15.178]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4K1eSf8029528 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 18:40:28 -0700 Received: from server1.shellworld.net (ricklew@LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by server1.shellworld.net (8.12.8/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h4K1eRWP077477 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 20:40:27 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from ricklew@shellworld.net) Received: from localhost (ricklew@localhost) by server1.shellworld.net (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h4K1eRt7077474 for ; Mon, 19 May 2003 18:40:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ricklew@shellworld.net) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 18:40:27 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Rick Lewis To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Reading pop3 mail from a Unix shell account In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: server1.shellworld.net: ricklew owned process doing -bs X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, X_AUTH_WARNING, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, X_AUTH_WARNING, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Found the answer, sorry about the mailbox clutter. --Rick From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 20 May 2003 02:16:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4K9GA4S008183 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 02:16:10 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4K9G6AE032376 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 20 May 2003 02:16:06 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4K9DtDE033048; Tue, 20 May 2003 02:13:55 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4K9Cq1M059434 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 02:12:52 -0700 Received: from s1.home.ro (home.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.40]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4K9CoOp016476 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 02:12:51 -0700 Received: (qmail 29585 invoked from network); 20 May 2003 09:12:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) (213.233.97.17) by s1.home.ro with SMTP; 20 May 2003 09:12:44 -0000 Received: from localhost (silviu@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4K9Fkp30396 for ; Tue, 20 May 2003 12:15:47 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 12:15:45 +0300 (EEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Silviu Cojocaru To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: changing a folder's color when it gets new mail MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: silviu owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: silviu@localhost.localdomain X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIII, Probability=26%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, X_AUTH_WARNING, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIII, Probability=6%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, X_AUTH_WARNING, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is it possible to make a folder, that recevied new mail, change its color ? This whould be veru usefull since I filter mai mail with procmail and then I have to look in every mail folder for new mail :) I'm using Pine for Linux v 4.44 -- Registered Linux user #298569 Real Time, adj.: Here and now, as opposed to fake time, which only occurs there and then. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 21 May 2003 07:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4LElx4S031141 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 07:47:59 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4LElcAE018857 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 21 May 2003 07:47:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4LEj266055964; Wed, 21 May 2003 07:45:03 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4LEhY1M049752 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 07:43:34 -0700 Received: from imag.imag.fr (imag.imag.fr [129.88.30.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4LEhCYU009740 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 07:43:13 -0700 Received: from mail-veri.imag.fr (pave.imag.fr [129.88.43.12]) by imag.imag.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4LEh8dV013296 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 16:43:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: from astazou.imag.fr ([129.88.43.102] ident=kowalski) by mail-veri.imag.fr with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19IUo8-0001JC-00 for ; Wed, 21 May 2003 16:43:08 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 21 May 2003 16:43:08 +0200 (MEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nicolas Kowalski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: tab for recent messages only MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello. The normal behaviour of the tab key in a folder is to visit unseen or important messages. Is there a way to change it to only visit recent messages ? Thanks in advance. -- Nicolas -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 22 May 2003 20:10:26 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4N3AQ4S004037 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 20:10:26 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4N3ACAE022796 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 22 May 2003 20:10:12 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4N37b66094320; Thu, 22 May 2003 20:07:37 -0700 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4N36N1M041658 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 20:06:24 -0700 Received: from wasp.net.au (wasp.conceptual.net.au [203.190.192.17]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4N36Gvw002213 for ; Thu, 22 May 2003 20:06:22 -0700 Received: from linux.busby.net (dialup-196-104.wasp.net.au [::ffff:203.190.196.104]) by wasp.net.au with esmtp; Fri, 23 May 2003 11:06:08 +0800 Received: from BBRH73 (unknown [192.168.1.31]) by linux.busby.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B530F2677C; Fri, 23 May 2003 10:56:40 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 11:19:14 +0800 (WST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bret Busby To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Filtering on From address Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIIII, Probability=28%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08, __EVITE_CTYPE, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIIII, Probability=28%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08, __EVITE_CTYPE, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello. I am getting an increasing number of spam messages that display with blank From addresses, and I can't find how to filter on From addresses that are displayed as empty. When the messages are examined, the name of the sender is not included in the From address, but the sending email address is included. An example, is the part of the spam message header below. On Fri, 23 May 2003, wrote: > > Date: Fri, 23 May 03 01:08:34 GMT > From: Is it possible to filter for a lack of a name in the From address? If so, how do I do it? Also, as in the Sent messages directory, where only a To email address is used, and not a name included in that field, the list of the messages includes the email address rather than a name (for example, if I send a message to Fred Dagg , then in the Sent messages directory list of messages, the name Fred Dagg will be listed, and, if I omit the name, and address the message to freddagg@dagg.net, then in the Sent messages directory list of messages, the email address will be listed instead of the name), can the PINE developers similarly do this for the From address, so that in the directories to which incoming messages are delivered (the Inbox for messages that are not directed by filtering, and, other directories for messages to which filtered messages are directed), if this has not already been done in a later version of PINE? I am using PINE v4.44, running on Red Hat Linux 7.3. Thanks in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 2003 00:33:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4N7X44S010290; Fri, 23 May 2003 00:33:04 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4N7X0AE029140 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 23 May 2003 00:33:00 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4N7Uk66089072; Fri, 23 May 2003 00:30:47 -0700 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4N7Tk1M010526 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 00:29:46 -0700 Received: from nori.rl.ac.uk (nori.rl.ac.uk [130.246.135.154]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4N7Thvw017317 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 00:29:44 -0700 Received: from rlsaxps.bnsc.rl.ac.uk (ptw@rlsaxps.bnsc.rl.ac.uk [130.246.35.130]) by nori.rl.ac.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h4N7TfB11548 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 08:29:41 +0100 Received: from localhost (ptw@localhost) by rlsaxps.bnsc.rl.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA52200 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 08:29:41 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 08:29:41 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Patrick Wallace To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Not printing attachments In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-RAL-MFrom: X-RAL-Connect: X-X-Sender: ptw@rlsaxps.bnsc.rl.ac.uk X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIII, Probability=18%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIII, Probability=13%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there any way I can stop Pine being helpful and printing attachments that it thinks it recognizes as ASCII text? I keep finding I'm inadvertently printing LaTeX source files, which is not good for the planet. I'm not asking for clever automatic behaviour - I'm happy to turn off printing attachments completely, and do it manually. Patrick Wallace ____________________________________________________________________________ Starlink/HMNAO Internet: ptw@star.rl.ac.uk Rutherford Appleton Laboratory Tel: +44-1235-445372 Chilton, Didcot, Fax: +44-1235-446362 Oxon OX11 0QX, UK ____________________________________________________________________________ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 2003 07:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NEY94S022184; Fri, 23 May 2003 07:34:09 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NEY1AE006940 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 23 May 2003 07:34:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4NEVn66094270; Fri, 23 May 2003 07:31:49 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NEUq1M027240 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 07:30:52 -0700 Received: from mxout5.cac.washington.edu (mxout5.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.135]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NEUoYU020274 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 07:30:50 -0700 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout5.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NEUnt7015954; Fri, 23 May 2003 07:30:49 -0700 Received: from TGX200.attbi.com (12-231-115-200.client.attbi.com [12.231.115.200]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NEUmQ0007443 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 23 May 2003 07:30:49 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 07:31:41 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time) Reply-To: Pine Discussion Forum Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Terry Gray To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Not printing attachments In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: gray@mailer23.u.washington.edu X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NOSPAM_INC, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN When viewing a message, if you press "V" one more time, it will take you to the View Attachment screen. From that you can select and print any message part individually, including the main body... although you lose the message headers in so doing. (Sometimes that's a bug, sometimes a feature.) Does that help as a work-around? -teg On Fri, 23 May 2003, Patrick Wallace wrote: > Is there any way I can stop Pine being helpful and printing attachments > that it thinks it recognizes as ASCII text? I keep finding I'm > inadvertently printing LaTeX source files, which is not good for the > planet. > > I'm not asking for clever automatic behaviour - I'm happy to turn off > printing attachments completely, and do it manually. > > Patrick Wallace > ____________________________________________________________________________ > Starlink/HMNAO Internet: ptw@star.rl.ac.uk > Rutherford Appleton Laboratory Tel: +44-1235-445372 > Chilton, Didcot, Fax: +44-1235-446362 > Oxon OX11 0QX, UK > ____________________________________________________________________________ > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 2003 07:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NEq34S022674; Fri, 23 May 2003 07:52:03 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NEpxF7021914 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 23 May 2003 07:51:59 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4NEnREg037228; Fri, 23 May 2003 07:49:28 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NEmo1M029736 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 07:48:50 -0700 Received: from nori.rl.ac.uk (nori.rl.ac.uk [130.246.135.154]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NEmlYT023784 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 07:48:47 -0700 Received: from rlsaxps.bnsc.rl.ac.uk (ptw@rlsaxps.bnsc.rl.ac.uk [130.246.35.130]) by nori.rl.ac.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id h4NEmjB09440 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 15:48:45 +0100 Received: from localhost (ptw@localhost) by rlsaxps.bnsc.rl.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA64867 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 15:48:45 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 15:48:45 +0100 (BST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Patrick Wallace To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Not printing attachments In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-RAL-MFrom: X-RAL-Connect: X-X-Sender: ptw@rlsaxps.bnsc.rl.ac.uk X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 23 May 2003, Terry Gray wrote: > When viewing a message, if you press "V" one more time, it will take > you to the View Attachment screen. From that you can select and print > any message part individually, including the main body... although you > lose the message headers in so doing. (Sometimes that's a bug, > sometimes a feature.) Aaarrghh! It all comes back to me. I've posted this question before (because the problem keeps happening and each time I curse). In fact it's why I joined the forum. I just want to be able to hit YY to print the next message and then not find that it's printing 30pp of LaTeX, Sorceror's Apprentice style. If I had the foresight to use the V facility, I'd prefer to export the message to a file, chop the unwanted 30pp off, and print. In fact sometimes I do remember in time and use this technique. Apologies for the wasted bandwidth. Patrick Wallace ____________________________________________________________________________ Starlink/HMNAO Internet: ptw@star.rl.ac.uk Rutherford Appleton Laboratory Tel: +44-1235-445372 Chilton, Didcot, Fax: +44-1235-446362 Oxon OX11 0QX, UK ____________________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:12:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NGCj4S025530; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:12:45 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NGCfAE010317 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 23 May 2003 09:12:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4NGAg66055956; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:10:43 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NGA81M061318 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:10:08 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NGA6f7000421 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:10:06 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4NGA3u7329937; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 09:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: changing a folder's color when it gets new mail In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Silviu Cojocaru X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIII, Probability=18%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIII, Probability=18%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Silviu Cojocaru (silviucc@home.ro) wrote in the pine-info list on May...: :) Is it possible to make a folder, that recevied new mail, change its :) color ? :) :) This whould be veru usefull since I filter mai mail with procmail and :) then I have to look in every mail folder for new mail :) No, but I have a patch for Pine that will select those folders that have new mail (so it will show them in bold or with a "X" to its left, depending on your settings). You can get the patch from my web page at http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ -- Eduardo From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:16:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NGGf4S025702; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:16:41 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NGGbAE010486 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 23 May 2003 09:16:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4NGEDlW014864; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:14:14 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NGDZ1M062964 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:13:35 -0700 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NGDXOp017028 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:13:33 -0700 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.10]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4NGDSu7284490; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 09:13:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Eduardo Chappa To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: tab for recent messages only In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Nicolas Kowalski X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Nicolas Kowalski (Nicolas.Kowalski@imag.fr) wrote in the pine-info list...: :) The normal behaviour of the tab key in a folder is to visit unseen or :) important messages. Is there a way to change it to only visit recent :) messages ? Hello Nicolas, Yes, press M S C and enable [X] tab-visits-next-new-message-only -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NGcg4S026645; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:38:42 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NGccAE011230 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 23 May 2003 09:38:38 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4NGaR66082884; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:36:27 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NGZp1M012032 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:35:51 -0700 Received: from imag.imag.fr (imag.imag.fr [129.88.30.1]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NGZkf8009343 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 09:35:48 -0700 Received: from mail-veri.imag.fr (pave.imag.fr [129.88.43.12]) by imag.imag.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4NGZfx0027311; Fri, 23 May 2003 18:35:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from astazou.imag.fr ([129.88.43.102] ident=kowalski) by mail-veri.imag.fr with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19JFW9-00018Z-00; Fri, 23 May 2003 18:35:41 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 18:35:40 +0200 (MEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nicolas Kowalski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: tab for recent messages only In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Eduardo Chappa X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 23 May 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > *** Nicolas Kowalski (Nicolas.Kowalski@imag.fr) wrote in the pine-info list...: > > :) The normal behaviour of the tab key in a folder is to visit unseen or > :) important messages. Is there a way to change it to only visit recent > :) messages ? > > Hello Nicolas, > > Yes, press M S C and enable > > [X] tab-visits-next-new-message-only > Hello Eduardo. Thanks for your response. According to the help text, I see : "Setting this feature causes Pine to skip the messages flagged as important, and select unread messages exclusively. Tab behavior when there are no new messages left to select remains unchanged. " What I was hoping to see is "tab select recent messages only, leaving unread and important messages unchanged". This could be usefull for example when reading high volume mailing-lists folders, where sometimes messages subjects do not catch my attention. However, this is not really important, as I can select all messages and flag them as read before leaving a folder. -- Nicolas From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 2003 12:37:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NJb04S001398; Fri, 23 May 2003 12:37:00 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NJajF7031760 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 23 May 2003 12:36:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4NJXqlW021532; Fri, 23 May 2003 12:33:52 -0700 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NJX81M048576 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 12:33:08 -0700 Received: from mxout4.cac.washington.edu (mxout4.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.19]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NJX6vx008870 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 12:33:06 -0700 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout4.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NJWqTc019619; Fri, 23 May 2003 12:32:52 -0700 Received: from [128.95.135.3] ([128.95.135.3]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NJWqQ0024150 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT); Fri, 23 May 2003 12:32:52 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 12:32:52 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Filtering on From address In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bret Busby X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXII, Probability=22%, Report="INVALID_MSGID, MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XX, Probability=20%, Report="INVALID_MSGID, MANY_USER_AGENTS, NOSPAM_INC, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 23 May 2003, Bret Busby wrote: > [...] > Is it possible to filter for a lack of a name in the From address? If > so, how do I do it? No, I don't think so. > Also, as in the Sent messages directory, where only a To email address > is used, and not a name included in that field, the list of the messages > includes the email address rather than a name (for example, if I send a > message to Fred Dagg , then in the Sent messages > directory list of messages, the name Fred Dagg will be listed, and, if > I omit the name, and address the message to freddagg@dagg.net, then in > the Sent messages directory list of messages, the email address will be > listed instead of the name), can the PINE developers similarly do this > for the From address, so that in the directories to which incoming > messages are delivered (the Inbox for messages that are not directed by > filtering, and, other directories for messages to which filtered > messages are directed), if this has not already been done in a later > version of PINE? > > I am using PINE v4.44, running on Red Hat Linux 7.3. > > Thanks in anticipation. I thought it already worked that way in v4.44, so maybe I'm not quite understanding. Are you talking about the MESSAGE INDEX screen? What is your index-format config variable set to? What does an example bad index line look like? Thanks. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 2003 13:25:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NKPH4S003278; Fri, 23 May 2003 13:25:17 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NKPCF7000871 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 23 May 2003 13:25:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4NKJpEg024664; Fri, 23 May 2003 13:19:51 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NKJM1M020192 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 13:19:22 -0700 Received: from mail.bellhow.com (fw.pqbs.com [63.121.54.5]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NKJEf7020180; Fri, 23 May 2003 13:19:14 -0700 Received: from rfdevel.bellhow.com (rfdevel.bellhow.com [192.168.16.73]) by mail.bellhow.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4NKJcJt001337; Fri, 23 May 2003 16:19:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (herrick@localhost) by rfdevel.bellhow.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.3) with ESMTP id QAA14652; Fri, 23 May 2003 16:19:07 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 23 May 2003 16:19:06 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: daniel lance herrick To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Filtering on From address In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Steve Hubert X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: rfdevel.bellhow.com: herrick owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: herrick@rfdevel.bellhow.com X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIII, Probability=26%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_08_13, X_AUTH_WARNING, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIII, Probability=17%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_08_13, X_AUTH_WARNING, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 23 May 2003, Steve Hubert wrote: > On Fri, 23 May 2003, Bret Busby wrote: > > > Also, as in the Sent messages directory, where only a To email address > > is used, and not a name included in that field, the list of the messages > > includes the email address rather than a name (for example, if I send a > > message to Fred Dagg , then in the Sent messages > > directory list of messages, the name Fred Dagg will be listed, and, if > > I omit the name, and address the message to freddagg@dagg.net, then in I suspect that, if you address the message to you will see the same problem as with the From: header. > > the Sent messages directory list of messages, the email address will be > > listed instead of the name), can the PINE developers similarly do this > > for the From address, so that in the directories to which incoming > > messages are delivered (the Inbox for messages that are not directed by > > filtering, and, other directories for messages to which filtered > > messages are directed), if this has not already been done in a later > > version of PINE? > > > > I am using PINE v4.44, running on Red Hat Linux 7.3. > > > > Thanks in anticipation. > > I thought it already worked that way in v4.44, so maybe I'm not quite > understanding. Are you talking about the MESSAGE INDEX screen? What is > your index-format config variable set to? What does an example bad index > line look like? Thanks. With a From: header that looks like From: the MESSAGE INDEX entry looks like A 345 Apr 21 (2048) Re: For what it's worth I'm using Pine 4.44 on Solaris, and also whatever Pine came with RedHat 7.2 on Linux, both show the empty sender field. I suggested to my son-in-law that he configure his name into his MUA for his new ISP and it eventually got better. I think the relevant detail is the < > with no comment. Addresses without the < > and with no comment display the address itself in the MESSAGE INDEX of the same mailbox. from the configuration: index-format = At least, that's the way things are here for me to see the problem. dan From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 23 May 2003 14:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NLi24S006651; Fri, 23 May 2003 14:44:02 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4NLhwF7003579 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 23 May 2003 14:43:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4NLg6DE021788; Fri, 23 May 2003 14:42:07 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4NLfK1M041602 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 14:41:20 -0700 Received: from s1.home.ro (home.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.40]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4NLfIf7013996 for ; Fri, 23 May 2003 14:41:18 -0700 Received: (qmail 26706 invoked from network); 23 May 2003 21:41:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) (213.233.94.25) by s1.home.ro with SMTP; 23 May 2003 21:41:05 -0000 Received: from localhost (silviu@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4NLkOc23561 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 00:46:25 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 00:46:23 +0300 (EEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Silviu Cojocaru To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: changing a folder's color when it gets new mail In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: silviu owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: silviu@localhost.localdomain X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIII, Probability=13%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, X_AUTH_WARNING, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=II, Probability=2%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, X_AUTH_WARNING, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 23 May 2003, Eduardo Chappa wrote: > No, but I have a patch for Pine that will select those folders that have > new mail (so it will show them in bold or with a "X" to its left, > depending on your settings). You can get the patch from my web page at > > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ Well I'll be happy with this :) Thanks! -- Registered Linux user #298569 Overflow on /dev/null, please empty the bit bucket. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 24 May 2003 11:33:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4OIX84S004564 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 11:33:08 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4OIX4F7032745 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 24 May 2003 11:33:05 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4OIUfDE020200; Sat, 24 May 2003 11:30:42 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4OITX1M019774 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 11:29:34 -0700 Received: from web41107.mail.yahoo.com (web41107.mail.yahoo.com [66.218.93.23]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4OITSYT014071 for ; Sat, 24 May 2003 11:29:28 -0700 Received: from [128.8.22.194] by web41107.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sat, 24 May 2003 11:29:28 PDT Message-Id: <20030524182928.59023.qmail@web41107.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 24 May 2003 11:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mel S To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: full disk; unable to delete anything MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIII, Probability=6%, Report="SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __EVITE_CTYPE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report="SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __EVITE_CTYPE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN i joined this list because of this problem: my telnet account is full; when i login to pine, it tells me that the disk is full and my access is READ-ONLY. because my access is READ-ONLY, i cannot delete individual messages in my inbox. i also cannot delete entire folders from my folder menu because it tells me that my folders are being accessed by another source, and access is denied. my mailbox has been stagnant for the past 2 weeks while i am sure i am still receiving emails that have not been retreived. does anyone know what i could do? thanks __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 25 May 2003 11:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4PIED4S006323 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 11:14:13 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4PIE8AE023072 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sun, 25 May 2003 11:14:08 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4PIBHlW009966; Sun, 25 May 2003 11:11:17 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4PIAE1M037416 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 11:10:15 -0700 Received: from wasp.net.au (wasp.conceptual.net.au [203.190.192.17]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4PIA685024173 for ; Sun, 25 May 2003 11:10:13 -0700 Received: from linux.busby.net (dialup-196-25.wasp.net.au [::ffff:203.190.196.25]) by wasp.net.au with esmtp; Mon, 26 May 2003 02:09:28 +0800 Received: from BBRH73 (unknown [192.168.1.31]) by linux.busby.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F0152677C; Mon, 26 May 2003 01:59:50 +0800 (WST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 02:22:22 +0800 (WST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bret Busby To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Filtering on From address In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIII, Probability=16%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, SPAM_PHRASE_08_13, __EVITE_CTYPE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIII, Probability=16%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, SPAM_PHRASE_08_13, __EVITE_CTYPE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 23 May 2003, daniel lance herrick wrote: > > On Fri, 23 May 2003, Steve Hubert wrote: > > > On Fri, 23 May 2003, Bret Busby wrote: > > > > > Also, as in the Sent messages directory, where only a To email address > > > is used, and not a name included in that field, the list of the messages > > > includes the email address rather than a name (for example, if I send a > > > message to Fred Dagg , then in the Sent messages > > > directory list of messages, the name Fred Dagg will be listed, and, if > > > I omit the name, and address the message to freddagg@dagg.net, then in > > I suspect that, if you address the message to > you will see the same problem > as with the From: header. > No. Try it and see (except, use another, valid, email address). > > > the Sent messages directory list of messages, the email address will be > > > listed instead of the name), can the PINE developers similarly do this > > > for the From address, so that in the directories to which incoming > > > messages are delivered (the Inbox for messages that are not directed by > > > filtering, and, other directories for messages to which filtered > > > messages are directed), if this has not already been done in a later > > > version of PINE? > > > > > > I am using PINE v4.44, running on Red Hat Linux 7.3. > > > > > > Thanks in anticipation. > > > > I thought it already worked that way in v4.44, so maybe I'm not quite > > understanding. Are you talking about the MESSAGE INDEX screen? What is > > your index-format config variable set to? What does an example bad index > > line look like? Thanks. > > With a From: header that looks like > > From: > > the MESSAGE INDEX entry looks like > > A 345 Apr 21 (2048) Re: For what it's worth > > I'm using Pine 4.44 on Solaris, and also whatever > Pine came with RedHat 7.2 on Linux, both show the > empty sender field. I suggested to my son-in-law > that he configure his name into his MUA for his > new ISP and it eventually got better. I think the > relevant detail is the < > with no comment. > Addresses without the < > and with no comment > display the address itself in the MESSAGE INDEX of > the same mailbox. > > from the configuration: > > index-format = > > At least, that's the way things are here for me to > see the problem. > > dan > My Message Index entry displays in the same way as the example above. My index-format config variable is set as in the example above. From my help facility, that should show the From name, or From email address where the From name is missing, but it does not display the From email address. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 .................................................... From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 2003 01:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4Q8D64S022993 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 01:13:06 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4Q8D2AE009370 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 26 May 2003 01:13:03 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4Q8AT66085902; Mon, 26 May 2003 01:10:30 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4Q8991M043386 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 01:09:09 -0700 Received: from graduate.hku.hk (graduate.hku.hk [147.8.2.87]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4Q896kB025056 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 01:09:07 -0700 Received: from localhost (h9602200@localhost) by graduate.hku.hk (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4Q894rd057497 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 16:09:05 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 16:09:04 +0800 (HKT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Tang Yuk Wai To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: How to prevent attachment files from saving in a server disk using pine? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: X-X-Sender: X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXI, Probability=31%, Report="FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIIII, Probability=28%, Report="FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MANY_USER_AGENTS, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I am writing to see if someone can a find a work around solution for the system adminstrators in my college who are going to shut down the telnet service of our e-mail account from next month. The reason for that is they say a lot of user save attachment files in the server disk when they check mail using pine. They end up having the account locked and have to ask for technical support to get the file removed (we are logging to a shell without command prompt and we could not delete any files). I should like to know if it is possible to disable the "save attachment" key in pine, either from the configuration setup file or compilation of pine. I hope someone here can give me a soluation so that I can pass it to the system administrators and hope they could change their mind. Thank you. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 2003 05:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4QCTH4S030842 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 05:29:17 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4QCTCAE015348 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 26 May 2003 05:29:13 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4QCR766085828; Mon, 26 May 2003 05:27:07 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4QCQ31M025258 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 05:26:03 -0700 Received: from christina.datohosting.be (christina.datohosting.be [213.193.225.81]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4QCQ185006634 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 05:26:01 -0700 Received: by christina.datohosting.be (Postfix, from userid 502) id 517591A8028; Mon, 26 May 2003 14:25:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 14:25:55 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Frederik Vervaet To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How to prevent attachment files from saving in a server disk using pine? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Tang Yuk Wai X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIII, Probability=16%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, SPAM_PHRASE_08_13, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIII, Probability=16%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_LONG_SPARSE, SPAM_PHRASE_08_13, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 26 May 2003, Tang Yuk Wai wrote: > Hello, > > I should like to know if it is possible to disable the "save attachment" > key in pine, either from the configuration setup file or compilation of > pine. I hope someone here can give me a soluation so that I can pass it to > the system administrators and hope they could change their mind. Thank > you. I'm not aware of such an option (doesn't mean it does not exist ...) However, seems to me if you're not allowed to save attachments you might aswell not get them :) On my system i needed smth to filter out dangerous attachments before they got to the user. I used anomy defang for that. Since this works on file-extensions I had to somehow store these files incase it deleted a valid file. Our clients get a unique filename in the mailmessage the attach was removed from which allows them to d/l the file from our server using a webform. Basically you could ask your admins to do the same. HAve them strip off ALL attachments and store them on a disk with plenty of room. Setup a webform so you can still get to them and delete everything in that directory once a month to save space. As long as you don't share that unique filename with anyone the file cannot be accessed by anyone else. The filename on my system is smth like ---.. nnnn being a random number. (kinda overkill but hey ...) This would fix the problem imo :) -- Frederik Vervaet -The Lean Mean Mailing Machine Alcohol is for the weak-minded who can't handle things as they are and need chemicals to help them escape. I enjoy being able to think clearly. We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing. - Mother Teresa From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 2003 14:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4QLSN4S008953 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 14:28:23 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4QLSLF7007864 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 26 May 2003 14:28:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4QLPKlW032930; Mon, 26 May 2003 14:25:21 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4QLOH1M037168 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 14:24:17 -0700 Received: from lisa.goe.net (lisa.JS.Jura.Uni-Goettingen.de [134.76.166.209]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4QLOEOq000874 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 14:24:16 -0700 Received: from mutter.goe.net (mutter-lisa0.a11.local [192.168.31.26]) by lisa.goe.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4QLO632019609; Mon, 26 May 2003 23:24:09 +0200 Received: from hase.a11.local (hase.a11.local [192.168.28.33]) by mutter.goe.net (8.12.7/8.12.6/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h4QLNxr3022254; Mon, 26 May 2003 23:23:59 +0200 Received: by hase.a11.local (Postfix, from userid 500) id 34A1751B7A; Mon, 26 May 2003 23:28:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hase.a11.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D7717B74; Mon, 26 May 2003 23:28:05 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:28:05 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bernhard Kaindl To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pine utf-8 summary and patch MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: bkaindl@localhost X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIII, Probability=18%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXI, Probability=21%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I want to report the latest state of UTF-8 support for pine which I am aware of. Please add anything I might be missing or missing to refer to, thanks! UTF-8 is only possible if your terminal supports it, this should be the case for recent XFree86 Code if the Unix-Locale used ends with .UTF-8 like en_US.UTF-8 this has to be set in the environment when starting e.g. xterm. Other termials capable of UTF-8 like mlterm should be able to switch character encodings on the fly. For complete utf-8 display it seems to be neccesary to enable the pine config option pass-control-characters-as-is to prevent recent versions of pine from dropping characters in the range of 0x80 to 0x9f which are needed to send many UTF-8 characters to the terminal. If all mails are converted to utf-8, e.g. by using procmail rules, then it should be sufficient to set the charset option in the config to utf-8 to prevent pine from attempting to translate the mail and have all pre-converted mails displayed. pico seems to support utf-8 as well, so even the standard editor should work just in case, to send utf-8 mail then. If you want to pine to convert mails to utf-8 for mail view and reply, you can use the display-filters config option, but it's slow and you need to convert the mail headers(to, from, subject) separately. Jungshik Shin sent a patch it make it work better with UTF-8 and i18n in general: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-utf8/2002-07/msg00012.html It allows to convert the mail headers and provides new config options to configure mime charset names names to charset names recognized by iconv. It also includes a good set of display filters, but using it adds a delay to the message diplay in the viewer for me. I updated this patch to 4.55 and made the use of display-filters obsolete by replacing them with a streaming iconv() filter used by pine directly. This patch should work on most modern Linux Distributions, I developed it on SuSE Linux 8.2, but should work as soon as your xterm supports UTF-8 correctly and your GLIBC has a working implementation of iconv(). This patch should work on Solaris as well if you define HAVE_ICONV for your target: ./build EXTRACFLAGS="-DHAVE_ICONV" target Bernhard ======================================================================= PS: This patch only addresses the character set conversion issue, it does not address the fact that pine thinks that the output of one byte to the terminal moves the cursor by one at the same time. This is of course not the case with any multibyte character encoding. To fix this, a separate patch which addresses this issue is needed, but this patch can be developed completely independent of this patch because it addresses entirely different issues. But if the bulk of your mail includes only a few non-ASCII characters, this is not a major problem, the only thing you'll see that lines with non-ASCII characters end too early and are instead wrapped to the next line. PPS: I've noticed a bug in the patch which is not yet fixed: If I set assumed-charset in the config and view a message with mailing list management information which pine appends in an editoral at to bottom of the mail body, the mailing list management editoral is completely messed up. PPPS: Improvements which are missing: 1) If the mail does not specify an encoding, US-ASCII is assumed by default which does not always match your most common case. You can change this by setting the assumed-charset config setting which is added by this patch, but it would be good to see if e.g. the subject contains a locale tag for for some encoding and use this encoding then so that assumed-charset is not required to be set in this case to see the mail converted using the best conversion. 2) Some Windows Mailers mislabel their mails with an ISO-8859 charset but are indeed encoded in Windows-1252. It would be good to recogize these Windows Mailers and provide automatic mappings from ISO-8859 to Windows encondings in this case. The charset-aliases setting provides such aliases already, but they are not predefined. I think it would be good to to make these mappings dependent of the mailer and provide some mappings which are known to be good by default which can be overridden by the user just in case. Example config settings for use with this patch are: charset-aliases=iso-8859-1:windows-1252, iso-8859-12:windows-1250, iso-8859-15:windows-1252, iso-8859-2:windows-1252, iso-8859-11:windows-874, tis-620:windows-874, gb2312:gb18030, gbk:gb18030, euc-cn:gb18030, ks_c_5601-1987:x-windows-949, 5601:x-windows-949 iconv-aliases=x-windows-949:mscp949, euc-kr:mscp949 PPPPS: If you have an UTF-8 Terminal but your pine OS does not have iconv(): libiconv like in Linux glibc: http://www.gnu.org/software/libiconv/ The portable iconv implementation by Bruno Haible: ftp://ftp.ilog.fr/pub/Users/haible/gnu/libiconv-1.5.1.tar.gz The portable iconv implementation by Konstantin Chuguev: ftp://ftp.urc.ac.ru/pub/local/OS/Unix/converters/iconv-0.4.tar.gz PPPPPS: Why Unicode? (Edited from the Unicode HOWTO) People in different countries use different characters to represent the words of their native languages. Nowadays most applications, including email systems and web browsers, are 8-bit clean, i.e. they can operate on and display text correctly provided that it is represented in an 8-bit character set, like ISO-8859-1. There are far more than 256 characters in the world - think of cyrillic, hebrew, arabic, chinese, japanese, korean and thai -, and new characters are being invented now and then. The problems that come up for users are: * It is impossible to store text with characters from different character sets in the same document. * As long as every document has its own character set, and recognition of the character set is not automatic, manual user intervention is inevitable. * New symbols like the Euro are being invented. ISO has issued a new standard ISO-8859-15, which is mostly like ISO-8859-1 except that it removes some rarely used characters (the old currency sign) and replaced it with the Euro sign. If users adopt this standard, they have documents in different character sets on their disk, and they start having to think about it daily. But computers should make things simpler, not more complicated. The solution of this problem is the adoption of a world-wide usable character set. This character set is Unicode http://www.unicode.org/ PPPPPPS: More Information: Introduction to i18n - Coded Character Sets And Encodings in the World: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/intro-i18n/ch-codes.en.html This text is a very comprehensive one-stop information resource on UTF-8 on Linux/Unix Operating systems: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~mgk25/unicode.html -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 2003 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4QLeu4S009216 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 14:40:56 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4QLerF7008130 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 26 May 2003 14:40:53 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4QLbN66055968; Mon, 26 May 2003 14:37:23 -0700 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4QLaa1M042978 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 14:36:36 -0700 Received: from lisa.goe.net (lisa.JS.Jura.Uni-Goettingen.de [134.76.166.209]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4QLaWvx032370 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 14:36:33 -0700 Received: from mutter.goe.net (mutter-lisa0.a11.local [192.168.31.26]) by lisa.goe.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4QLZw32019700; Mon, 26 May 2003 23:36:00 +0200 Received: from hase.a11.local (hase.a11.local [192.168.28.33]) by mutter.goe.net (8.12.7/8.12.6/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h4QLZir3022308; Mon, 26 May 2003 23:35:44 +0200 Received: by hase.a11.local (Postfix, from userid 500) id 312E451B7A; Mon, 26 May 2003 23:39:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hase.a11.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B4C17B74; Mon, 26 May 2003 23:39:15 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 23:39:15 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bernhard Kaindl To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine utf-8 summary and patch In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323328-310700440-1053984772=:18257" Content-ID: X-X-Sender: bkaindl@localhost X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIII, Probability=26%, Report="BASE64_ENC_TEXT, MANY_USER_AGENTS, MIME_NULL_BLOCK, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUPERLONG_LINE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIII, Probability=26%, Report="BASE64_ENC_TEXT, MANY_USER_AGENTS, MIME_NULL_BLOCK, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, SUPERLONG_LINE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --8323328-310700440-1053984772=:18257 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Content-ID: Here comes the patch (attached) Note: UTF-8 is not only good when you recieve mails in different locales which are not 100% compatible. I do UTF-8 only because operating systems and mailers start to switch to utf-8 and using utf-8 myself is the only way to be compatible with it. I also start to see nice benefits of this, for example, this patch finally allows me to see all kinds of annotations which Windows Users use to their mails: „upper-lower quotes“ (I have some more but could not find them atm) And some random signatures: 睡眠不足はいい仕事の敵だ。 Gáspár・ガーシュパール・Гашпар・가스팔・Γασπαρ ᏱᎦᏊ ᎣᏌᏂᏳ ᎠᏓᏅᏙ ᎠᏓᏙᎵᎩ ᏂᎪᎯᎸᎢ ᎾᏍᏋ ᎤᏠᏯᏍᏗ ᏂᎯ. G̳á̳s̳p̳á̳r̳ ・ ɡaːʃpaːr ・ גאשפאר・ If you have SuSE Linux 8.2 and you set your locale to en_US.UTF-8, start an xterm, select "Unicode Best" from the xterm font menu, and show this mail with patched pine configured with character-set utf-8 and pass-control-character-as-is on and you see all the above! And you can edit this with pico and vim! Best Regards, Bernhard Kaindl On Mon, 26 May 2003, Bernhard Kaindl wrote: > Hi, > I want to report the latest state of UTF-8 support for pine which > I am aware of. Please add anything I might be missing or missing to > refer to, thanks! > > UTF-8 is only possible if your terminal supports it, this should be > the case for recent XFree86 Code if the Unix-Locale used ends with > .UTF-8 like en_US.UTF-8 this has to be set in the environment when > starting e.g. xterm. Other termials capable of UTF-8 like mlterm > should be able to switch character encodings on the fly. > > For complete utf-8 display it seems to be neccesary to enable the pine > config option pass-control-characters-as-is to prevent recent versions > of pine from dropping characters in the range of 0x80 to 0x9f which are > needed to send many UTF-8 characters to the terminal. > > If all mails are converted to utf-8, e.g. by using procmail rules, > then it should be sufficient to set the charset option in the config > to utf-8 to prevent pine from attempting to translate the mail and > have all pre-converted mails displayed. > > pico seems to support utf-8 as well, so even the standard editor > should work just in case, to send utf-8 mail then. > > If you want to pine to convert mails to utf-8 for mail view and reply, > you can use the display-filters config option, but it's slow and you > need to convert the mail headers(to, from, subject) separately. > > Jungshik Shin sent a patch it make it work better with UTF-8 and i18n > in general: > > http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-utf8/2002-07/msg00012.html > > It allows to convert the mail headers and provides new config options > to configure mime charset names names to charset names recognized by > iconv. > > It also includes a good set of display filters, but using it adds > a delay to the message diplay in the viewer for me. > > I updated this patch to 4.55 and made the use of display-filters obsolete > by replacing them with a streaming iconv() filter used by pine directly. > > This patch should work on most modern Linux Distributions, I developed > it on SuSE Linux 8.2, but should work as soon as your xterm supports > UTF-8 correctly and your GLIBC has a working implementation of iconv(). > > This patch should work on Solaris as well if you define HAVE_ICONV > for your target: > > ./build EXTRACFLAGS="-DHAVE_ICONV" target > > Bernhard > > ======================================================================= > > PS: This patch only addresses the character set conversion issue, it > does not address the fact that pine thinks that the output of one byte > to the terminal moves the cursor by one at the same time. This is of > course not the case with any multibyte character encoding. > > To fix this, a separate patch which addresses this issue is needed, > but this patch can be developed completely independent of this patch > because it addresses entirely different issues. > > But if the bulk of your mail includes only a few non-ASCII characters, > this is not a major problem, the only thing you'll see that lines with > non-ASCII characters end too early and are instead wrapped to the next > line. > > PPS: I've noticed a bug in the patch which is not yet fixed: > > If I set assumed-charset in the config and view a message with > mailing list management information which pine appends in an > editoral at to bottom of the mail body, the mailing list > management editoral is completely messed up. > > PPPS: Improvements which are missing: > > 1) > > If the mail does not specify an encoding, US-ASCII is assumed by default > which does not always match your most common case. > > You can change this by setting the assumed-charset config setting which > is added by this patch, but it would be good to see if e.g. the subject > contains a locale tag for for some encoding and use this encoding then > so that assumed-charset is not required to be set in this case to see > the mail converted using the best conversion. > > 2) > > Some Windows Mailers mislabel their mails with an ISO-8859 charset > but are indeed encoded in Windows-1252. > > It would be good to recogize these Windows Mailers and provide > automatic mappings from ISO-8859 to Windows encondings in this > case. > > The charset-aliases setting provides such aliases already, but > they are not predefined. > > I think it would be good to to make these mappings dependent of > the mailer and provide some mappings which are known to be good > by default which can be overridden by the user just in case. > > Example config settings for use with this patch are: > > charset-aliases=iso-8859-1:windows-1252, > iso-8859-12:windows-1250, > iso-8859-15:windows-1252, > iso-8859-2:windows-1252, > iso-8859-11:windows-874, > tis-620:windows-874, > gb2312:gb18030, > gbk:gb18030, > euc-cn:gb18030, > ks_c_5601-1987:x-windows-949, > 5601:x-windows-949 > > iconv-aliases=x-windows-949:mscp949, > euc-kr:mscp949 > > PPPPS: If you have an UTF-8 Terminal but your pine OS does not have iconv(): > > libiconv like in Linux glibc: > http://www.gnu.org/software/libiconv/ > > The portable iconv implementation by Bruno Haible: > ftp://ftp.ilog.fr/pub/Users/haible/gnu/libiconv-1.5.1.tar.gz > > The portable iconv implementation by Konstantin Chuguev: > ftp://ftp.urc.ac.ru/pub/local/OS/Unix/converters/iconv-0.4.tar.gz > > PPPPPS: Why Unicode? (Edited from the Unicode HOWTO) > > People in different countries use different characters to represent the words > of their native languages. Nowadays most applications, including email systems > and web browsers, are 8-bit clean, i.e. they can operate on and display text > correctly provided that it is represented in an 8-bit character set, like > ISO-8859-1. > > There are far more than 256 characters in the world - think of cyrillic, > hebrew, arabic, chinese, japanese, korean and thai -, and new characters > are being invented now and then. The problems that come up for users are: > > * It is impossible to store text with characters from different character > sets in the same document. > * As long as every document has its own character set, and recognition > of the character set is not automatic, manual user intervention is > inevitable. > * New symbols like the Euro are being invented. ISO has issued a new > standard ISO-8859-15, which is mostly like ISO-8859-1 except that it > removes some rarely used characters (the old currency sign) and replaced > it with the Euro sign. If users adopt this standard, they have documents > in different character sets on their disk, and they start having to think > about it daily. But computers should make things simpler, > not more complicated. > > The solution of this problem is the adoption of a world-wide usable > character set. 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tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 26 May 2003 19:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4R2Eh4S014753 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 19:14:43 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4R2EPAE002004 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Mon, 26 May 2003 19:14:39 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4R2CElW021718; Mon, 26 May 2003 19:12:15 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4R2BQ1M037964 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 19:11:26 -0700 Received: from graduate.hku.hk (graduate.hku.hk [147.8.2.87]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4R2BO85026688 for ; Mon, 26 May 2003 19:11:25 -0700 Received: from localhost (h9602200@localhost) by graduate.hku.hk (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4R2BIar481586; Tue, 27 May 2003 10:11:18 +0800 (HKT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 10:11:18 +0800 (HKT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Tang Yuk Wai To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How to prevent attachment files from saving in a server disk using pine? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Frederik Vervaet X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXI, Probability=31%, Report="FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXI, Probability=31%, Report="FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_05_08, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > I'm not aware of such an option (doesn't mean it does not exist ...) > > However, seems to me if you're not allowed to save attachments you might > aswell not get them :) > > On my system i needed smth to filter out dangerous attachments before they > got to the user. I used anomy defang for that. Since this works on > file-extensions I had to somehow store these files incase it deleted a > valid file. Our clients get a unique filename in the mailmessage the attach was > removed from which allows them to d/l the file from our server using a > webform. Thanks for the suggestions. Actually, they provide a website for us to check the e-mails and save attachments so it is not a problem if the save attachment option in pine (access through telnet) is disabled. However, I think it is more convenient to check mail with pine, which I have been using for many years and if I could find a solution here and tell the system administrators they may change their mind. Tang Yuk Wai From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 2003 03:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4RAgp4S027780 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 03:42:51 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4RAgmF7026191 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 27 May 2003 03:42:48 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4RAeNDE033142; Tue, 27 May 2003 03:40:24 -0700 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4RAdN1M056154 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 03:39:23 -0700 Received: from mail7.cz.foxconn.com (mail7.cz.foxconn.com [195.39.14.76]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4RAdLvw014338 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 03:39:22 -0700 Received: by CZ01SVNT05 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:39:41 +0200 Message-Id: <694E275FA66ED411A73600508B69A76E06DB712D@CZ01SVNT05> Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:39:41 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Zbynek Houska To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: How to set up subfolders in Inbox? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIII, Probability=6%, Report="SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __EVITE_CTYPE" Hi, I wonder how to set up PINE to display properly content of my inbox folder? I have an unix machine connecting to win exchange server. The problem is that I have several subfolders in that INBOX folder. Could someone help me? In .pinerc I have following line: inbox-path={ip-to-server/username=myname/}INBOX, but folder hierarchy is as follows: inbox - contains messages + one folder -contains messages Messages are rule processed on server. I use pine 4.51 on FreeBSD. Zbynek -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 2003 07:24:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4REOO4S000787 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 07:24:24 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4REOLAE019484 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 27 May 2003 07:24:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4REKuEg037220; Tue, 27 May 2003 07:20:56 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4REK61M049760 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 07:20:06 -0700 Received: from imag.imag.fr (imag.imag.fr [129.88.30.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4REK1YU002464 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 07:20:03 -0700 Received: from mail-veri.imag.fr (pave.imag.fr [129.88.43.12]) by imag.imag.fr (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4REJxUA024888 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 16:20:00 +0200 (CEST) Received: from astazou.imag.fr ([129.88.43.102] ident=kowalski) by mail-veri.imag.fr with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19KfJ1-0007m8-00 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 16:19:59 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:19:59 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Nicolas Kowalski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: tab for recent messages only In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIII, Probability=8%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 21 May 2003, Nicolas Kowalski wrote: > The normal behaviour of the tab key in a folder is to visit unseen or > important messages. Is there a way to change it to only visit recent > messages ? Actually, Nancy McGough already gave the solution. I found it in the archives. I think I have misread this mail, so, Nancy, I really apologize. ref: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/2002.04/msg00016.html Using "IMAPSTATUS" in the index-format makes the new (ie. recent) mail check really easy to handle. No need to mark all mail as read. Sorry for the noise. -- Nicolas From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:27:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4RJRJ4S013739 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:27:19 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4RJRHAE031397 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 27 May 2003 12:27:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4RJK1lW030482; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:20:01 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4RJJ21M018046 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:19:02 -0700 Received: from mail-out2.apple.com (mail-out2.apple.com [17.254.0.51]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4RJIuYT003627 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:18:56 -0700 Received: from mailgate1.apple.com (A17-128-100-225.apple.com [17.128.100.225]) by mail-out2.apple.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4RJItfR023461 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:18:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from scv3.apple.com (scv3.apple.com) by mailgate1.apple.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.2.1) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:18:40 -0700 Received: from ackema.apple.com (ackema.apple.com [17.202.14.80]) by scv3.apple.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4RJIrI3009111; Tue, 27 May 2003 12:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:18:50 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Matt Ackeret To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How to prevent attachment files from saving in a server disk using pine? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-To: Tang Yuk Wai X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: mattack@matt-ackerets-computer.local X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXI, Probability=21%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __EVITE_CTYPE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXI, Probability=21%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __EVITE_CTYPE, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 26 May 2003, Tang Yuk Wai wrote: >I am writing to see if someone can a find a work around solution for the >system adminstrators in my college who are going to shut down the telnet >service of our e-mail account from next month. The reason for that is You can still use pine -- just compile it on your computer or on another shell account (inside the college's firewall most likely), and point it at the same mail account. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4RKTI4S016355 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:29:18 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4RKTGF7013034 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 27 May 2003 13:29:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4RKQSlW015570; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:26:28 -0700 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4RKPc1M010722 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:25:38 -0700 Received: from lisa.goe.net (lisa.JS.Jura.Uni-Goettingen.de [134.76.166.209]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4RKPZvx011179 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:25:36 -0700 Received: from mutter.goe.net (mutter-lisa0.a11.local [192.168.31.26]) by lisa.goe.net (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h4RKPW32032726; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:25:33 +0200 Received: from hase.a11.local (hase.a11.local [192.168.28.33]) by mutter.goe.net (8.12.7/8.12.6/SuSE Linux 0.6) with ESMTP id h4RKPVr3028494; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:25:31 +0200 Received: by hase.a11.local (Postfix, from userid 500) id 9F3FE51B7A; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:29:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hase.a11.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59D3D17B74; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:29:39 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:29:39 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bernhard Kaindl To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine utf-8 summary and patch In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: bkaindl@localhost X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIIII, Probability=19%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIIII, Probability=19%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I've updated the UTF-8 patch: http://www.suse.de/~bk/pine/iconv/pine4.55.iconv.diff.6d People with SuSE Linux 8.1 or better around can use this rpm: http://www.suse.de/~bk/pine/iconv/RPMS/8.1/pine-4.55-0.i586.rpm I tested it for a few hours while cleaning up a big mailbox. Fixed issues: - fixed memory problem (Segmentation fault) in streaming iconv filter - fixed handling of incomplete conversions in streaming iconv filter - fix rfc822_q header decoding problem which only showed on second view Best Regards, Bernhard Kaindl PS: Additional Information: Configuration: - set the character-set option in the pine config to: "utf-8" - enable pass-control-characters-as-is in the pine config to see some characters like german umlauts in the config correctly. - See the bottom of this mail for some more examples Special instructions for Users of SuSE Linux 8.2: If you have SuSE Linux 8.2, all you have to do in addition is to set your locale to an UTF-8 locale e.g. by putting entering export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 start an xterm from this shell to have the xterm started with UTF-8 character I/O. Then select "Unicode Best" from the xterm font menu and start the patched and configured pine in it. If you use pico or vim as editor also support UTF-8, but without any additional patches as of SuSE Linux 8.2. Compilation: This patch should work on most modern Linux Distributions, I developed it on SuSE Linux 8.2, but should work as soon as your xterm supports UTF-8 correctly and your system has iconv() the case for Solaris and Linux with glibc-2.2 and newer. On Solaris and other systems use: ./build EXTRACFLAGS="-DHAVE_ICONV" target The patch uses a #define called HAVE_ICONV which indicates if the iconv() library call which is available on this system. If no () is not provided by the system, one of three freely available implementations can be used. Current Status: There is more to do to make pine's display engine understand that byte which is sent to the terminal does not always move the cursor, but that's a completely separate issue from the charset conversion which this patch addresses. Known Bug: If assumed-charset in the config and you view a message with mailing list management information which pine appends in an editoral at to bottom of the mail body, the mailing list management editoral is completely messed up. Environment: UTF-8 is only possible if your terminal supports it, this should be the case for recent XFree86 Code if the Unix-Locale used ends with UTF-8 like en_US.UTF-8 this has to be set in the environment when starting e.g. xterm. Other termials capable of UTF-8 like mlterm should be able to switch character encodings on the fly. The original patch from Jungshik Shin sent with documentation, the display-filters described are obsolete now: http://mail.nl.linux.org/linux-utf8/2002-07/msg00012.html - Free implementation of iconv, if your system doesn't provide one: libiconv like in Linux glibc: http://www.gnu.org/software/libiconv/ The portable iconv implementation by Bruno Haible: ftp://ftp.ilog.fr/pub/Users/haible/gnu/libiconv-1.5.1.tar.gz The portable iconv implementation by Konstantin Chuguev: ftp://ftp.urc.ac.ru/pub/local/OS/Unix/converters/iconv-0.4.tar.gz - Config settings for use with this patch are: Required if use with UTF-8 is intented: character-set=utf-8 Recommended: pass-control-chars-as-is Other Examples, highy personal: assumed-charset=windows-1252 charset-aliases=iso-8859-1:windows-1252, iso-8859-12:windows-1250, iso-8859-15:windows-1252, iso-8859-2:windows-1252, iso-8859-11:windows-874, tis-620:windows-874, gb2312:gb18030, gbk:gb18030, euc-cn:gb18030, ks_c_5601-1987:x-windows-949, 5601:x-windows-949 iconv-aliases=x-windows-949:mscp949, euc-kr:mscp949 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:38:55 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4RKct4S016700 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:38:55 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4RKcqF7013409 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 27 May 2003 13:38:52 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4RKaODE032540; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:36:25 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4RKZs1M042270 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:35:54 -0700 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4RKZpf8020177 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 13:35:53 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h4RKZed3052199; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:35:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mats@dufberg.se) Message-Id: <20030527223248.P1857@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:35:40 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How to prevent attachment files from saving in a server disk using pine? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dufberg@aslan.narnia.pp.se X-To: Tang Yuk Wai X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIII, Probability=6%, Report="IN_REP_TO, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __IN_REP_TO, __REFERENCES" On May 26, 2003, 16:09 (+0800) Tang Yuk Wai wrote: > I should like to know if it is possible to disable the "save attachment" > key in pine, either from the configuration setup file or compilation of > pine. I hope someone here can give me a soluation so that I can pass it to > the system administrators and hope they could change their mind. Thank > you. I'm not really sure what you mean, but it is possible to remove the attachment before you save the message. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg.se Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:53:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4S5rT4S001122 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:53:29 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4S5rQF7028946 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Tue, 27 May 2003 22:53:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4S5ooDE032620; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:50:50 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4S5nr1M042248 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:49:53 -0700 Received: from nimbus.anzio.com (nimbus.anzio.com [66.129.212.98]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4S5np85017541 for ; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:49:52 -0700 Received: from nimbus.anzio.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by nimbus.anzio.com (8.12.9/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h4S5umdJ030737; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:56:48 -0700 Received: from localhost (ras@localhost) by nimbus.anzio.com (8.12.9/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id h4S5L7eo030599; Tue, 27 May 2003 22:21:08 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 22:21:07 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Bob Rasmussen To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: pine utf-8 summary and patch In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Bernhard Kaindl X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIII, Probability=13%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIII, Probability=13%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I have tested Bernhard's updated patch, and can report that it works quite well. This is a big step forward in internationalizing Pine! Gone are the garbage characters resulting from character set mismatches. I can display European diacritics, Chinese spam, and so forth. I was testing with Anzio, our telnet program, which is UTF-8 compatible. Regards, ....Bob Rasmussen, President, Rasmussen Software, Inc. personal e-mail: ras@anzio.com company e-mail: rsi@anzio.com voice: (US) 503-624-0360 (9:00-6:00 Pacific Time) fax: (US) 503-624-0760 web: http://www.anzio.com From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 2003 04:23:43 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4SBNg4S012816 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 04:23:42 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4SBNfF7005225 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 28 May 2003 04:23:41 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4SBLClW015480; Wed, 28 May 2003 04:21:15 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4SBKL1M015322 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 04:20:21 -0700 Received: from gw02.holdiko.com (gw02.holdiko.com [202.155.43.68]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4SBKJ85013416 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 04:20:20 -0700 Received: from [192.168.0.50] ([192.168.0.50]) by gw02.holdiko.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4SBHDm03066 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 18:17:13 +0700 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 23:24:43 -0700 (GMT+7) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Sudjiman To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: gpg on pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXX, Probability=30%, Report="FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIII, Probability=33%, Report="FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD, MANY_USER_AGENTS, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Guys, Can somebody help me how to set my pine with gpg? I searched on google and found several how-to but none (so far) works. Chappa did the work for 4.33, shoudl I patch and recompile mine with this? how? thx .dave A star captain's most solemn oath is that he will give his life, even his entire crew, rather than violate the Prime Directive. -- Kirk, "The Omega Glory", stardate unknown -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 2003 06:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4SDgi4S015657 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 06:42:44 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4SDgeAE030338 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 28 May 2003 06:42:40 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4SDdc66085744; Wed, 28 May 2003 06:39:39 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4SDcV1M039086 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 06:38:31 -0700 Received: from mail-d.bcc.ac.uk (mail-d.bcc.ac.uk [144.82.100.24]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4SDcSYT018337 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 06:38:29 -0700 Received: from pop-b.ucl.ac.uk by mail-d.bcc.ac.uk with SMTP (Mailer) with ESMTP; Wed, 28 May 2003 14:38:15 +0100 Received: from dan-hatton.geol.ucl.ac.uk (dan-hatton.geol.ucl.ac.uk [128.40.78.74]) by pop-b.ucl.ac.uk (8.11.7+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h4SDcBc29131; Wed, 28 May 2003 14:38:11 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:45:05 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dan Hatton To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: read-only address book MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Cc: etmanor@Harding.edu X-X-Sender: dan@DAN-HATTON.geol.ucl.ac.uk X-UCL-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIIII, Probability=19%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIIIIII, Probability=9%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Way back (October 1997,) there was a thread of this name, where E. T. Manor reported that a friend had the following problem: Pine regarded an address book as read-only, despite the permissions on the file being "fine" (I take this to mean the user had write permission on the address book.) I've just encountered the same problem, and eventually discovered that the cause was that, although I had write permission on the address book itself, I didn't have write permission on the directory that contained the address book. chmod a+w on the directory fixed the problem. -- Ta Dan Hatton From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 2003 07:39:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4SEdP4S017020 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 07:39:25 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4SEdKF7010164 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 28 May 2003 07:39:21 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4SEatlW025476; Wed, 28 May 2003 07:36:55 -0700 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4SEa41M039062 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 07:36:05 -0700 Received: from mail.bellhow.com (fw.pqbs.com [63.121.54.5]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4SEa3vw021464 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 07:36:04 -0700 Received: from rfdevel.bellhow.com (rfdevel.bellhow.com [192.168.16.73]) by mail.bellhow.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h4SEaTJt001677 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 10:36:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (herrick@localhost) by rfdevel.bellhow.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA17356 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 10:35:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 10:35:56 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: daniel lance herrick To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: print doesn't work MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: rfdevel.bellhow.com: herrick owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: herrick@rfdevel.bellhow.com X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIII, Probability=26%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, X_AUTH_WARNING, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=X, Probability=10%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, X_AUTH_WARNING, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It used to work. A few week ago it changed. I'm hoping you will tell me how I shot myself in the foot. Now, it is using just as the line separater in the stuff sent to the printer and the third line is completely off the right side of the paper. (Should be, effectively, so that each new line starts at the left margin.) I can save a message to a new folder and lpr that folder and things are usable. This is Pine 4.44 running on Solaris with the LDAP feature compiled in. None of that has changed in several months. I don't see anyuthing remotely relevant at M S C. dan -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 2003 10:04:08 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4SH484S022653 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 10:04:08 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4SH3wAE004907 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 28 May 2003 10:03:58 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4SGmrDE013000; Wed, 28 May 2003 09:48:53 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4SGm11M034916 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 09:48:02 -0700 Received: from hedwig.iticom.net (owlsnest.iticom.net [64.127.64.16]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4SGlrYT008229 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 09:47:56 -0700 Received: (qmail 7351 invoked by uid 0); 28 May 2003 16:12:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO daikon2.iticom.net) (64.127.73.24) by owlsnest.iticom.net with SMTP; 28 May 2003 16:12:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 10437 invoked by uid 0); 28 May 2003 16:12:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bobby) (217.84.36.206) by pop.bobby-brooks.com with SMTP; 28 May 2003 16:12:00 -0000 Message-Id: <006a01c32533$e664a060$6601a8c0@bw.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 18:12:05 +0200 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bobby" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Configuring pine In-Reply-To: X-To: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXI, Probability=21%, Report="IN_REP_TO, PGP_SIGNATURE, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __IN_REP_TO" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Does anybody know how to configure pine to have customized replies, ie, something like "on dec 20, 03, at 3:30pm jimbob smith said: " or how to setup the <--snip ahead and behind of cut&paste text?...might be outside of pine on that one...so far on my LUG, all anybody could tell me about was mutt, and I don't much care for mutt...thanks - -bobby Bobby@Bobby-Brooks.com http://bobby-brooks.com Public Key = bobby-brooks.com/pubring.pkr Simulated disorder postulates perfect discipline; simulated fear postulates courage; simulated weakness postulates strength. Sun Tzu - The Art of War (Chap 5-17) ICQ-33647303 AOL_IM-TX Copenhagen Yahoo-tx_copenhagen1977 MSN-copenhagen_1977@hotmail.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 7.0.4 iQA/AwUBPtTf1WeWTpYANgDpEQIzrwCeMhgbMnRd77YFzyOT1NeHiCSMFkwAoP21 3uSH+6UWYGrQyP5HaMfBcyT/ =fV42 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 2003 13:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4SKbU4S000828 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 13:37:30 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4SKbRF7024046 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 28 May 2003 13:37:28 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4SKZ8Eg101824; Wed, 28 May 2003 13:35:08 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4SKYJ1M044678 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 13:34:20 -0700 Received: from aslan.narnia.pp.se (aslan.narnia.pp.se [212.247.3.100]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4SKYG86001283 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 13:34:18 -0700 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.narnia.pp.se (8.12.3p2/8.11.3) with ESMTP id h4SKYEd3056963; Wed, 28 May 2003 22:34:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from mats@dufberg.se) Message-Id: <20030528223222.J1857@aslan.narnia.pp.se> Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 22:34:14 +0200 (CEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mats Dufberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: gpg on pine In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: dufberg@aslan.narnia.pp.se X-To: David Sudjiman X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-message-flag: Tired of your mail client? Get pine! http://www.washington.edu/pine/ X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIII, Probability=4%, Report="IN_REP_TO, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, REFERENCES, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __IN_REP_TO, __REFERENCES" On May 28, 2003, 23:24 (-0700) David Sudjiman wrote: > Can somebody help me how to set my pine with gpg? I searched on google and > found several how-to but none (so far) works. > > Chappa did the work for 4.33, shoudl I patch and recompile mine with this? > how? I didn't know that there are solutions that require recompilation, but I have at work installed some filters that wordk without special compilation, . If you run FreeBSD, you can find it in ports, mail/pgp4pine. Mats ----------------------------------------------------------------- Mats Dufberg mats@dufberg.se Blaoarvsgraend 42 +46-8-38 48 59 SE-162 45 Vaellingby, Sweden +46-70-258 2588 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 28 May 2003 14:35:22 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4SLZL4S003458 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 14:35:21 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4SLZHF7026237 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Wed, 28 May 2003 14:35:17 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4SLWeDE030046; Wed, 28 May 2003 14:32:40 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4SLW71M050710 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 14:32:07 -0700 Received: from s1.home.ro (home.rdsnet.ro [193.231.236.40]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4SLW4YT023048 for ; Wed, 28 May 2003 14:32:05 -0700 Received: (qmail 5077 invoked from network); 28 May 2003 21:31:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost.localdomain) (213.233.102.1) by s1.home.ro with SMTP; 28 May 2003 21:31:51 -0000 Received: from localhost (silviu@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h4SLeDG22243 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 00:40:14 +0300 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 00:40:09 +0300 (EEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Silviu Cojocaru To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: gpg on pine In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: silviu owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: silviu@localhost.localdomain X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIIII, Probability=28%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, PGP_SIGNATURE, UPPERCASE_25_50, X_AUTH_WARNING, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __UPPERCASE_25_50, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIIII, Probability=19%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, PGP_SIGNATURE, UPPERCASE_25_50, X_AUTH_WARNING, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __UPPERCASE_25_50, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Check out this page: http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ So far I'm happy with it. - -- Registered Linux user #298569 The generation of random numbers is too important to be left to chance. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://quantumlab.net/pine_privacy_guard/ iD8DBQE+1Sy78WBGNj3ut+0RAkWaAKD66G93uAUkTgpx9pyndwApoWs4AwCfYMv+ bV2eOS0JK2aONb0k8afBA0g= =KemT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 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From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 May 2003 11:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4TIsc4S010587 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 11:54:38 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4TIsZAE019656 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 29 May 2003 11:54:35 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4TIqE66083838; Thu, 29 May 2003 11:52:14 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4TIog1M045758 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 11:50:42 -0700 Received: from hedwig.iticom.net (owlsnest.iticom.net [64.127.64.16]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4TIod85002272 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 11:50:40 -0700 Received: (qmail 7836 invoked by uid 0); 29 May 2003 18:50:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO daikon2.iticom.net) (64.127.73.24) by hedwig.iticom.net with SMTP; 29 May 2003 18:50:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 16717 invoked by uid 0); 29 May 2003 18:50:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO bobby) (80.133.240.7) by www.bobby-brooks.com with SMTP; 29 May 2003 18:50:23 -0000 Message-Id: <000101c32613$322f7170$01000001@bw.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 20:50:37 +0200 Reply-To: Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Bobby" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: RE: Free Shipping - ALL Code DVD Player, DVD $3.48 + COUPON ---- 2003-5-30 0:10:38 In-Reply-To: <200305291609.h4TG9VAD013683@mx1.cac.washington.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0002_01C32623.F5B9C810" X-To: , "'Pine Discussion Forum'" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIII, Probability=33%, Report="HTML_50_70, HTML_FONT_COLOR_RED, IN_REP_TO, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_MIMEOLE, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __IN_REP_TO" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C32623.F5B9C810 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit did i miss something?...didnt realize this was going to have spam sent to me -bobby ------=_NextPart_000_0002_01C32623.F5B9C810 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
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From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 May 2003 17:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.140]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4U01I4S024119 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 17:01:19 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4U01GAE031015 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 29 May 2003 17:01:16 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4TNx1DE033094; Thu, 29 May 2003 16:59:02 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4TNwB1M037298 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 16:58:11 -0700 Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4TNvbYW002672 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=FAIL) for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 16:58:10 -0700 Received: from list4.u.washington.edu (list4.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.167]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4TNvYF7008515 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 29 May 2003 16:57:34 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4TNuo66085714; Thu, 29 May 2003 16:56:50 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4TNYc1M039598 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 16:34:38 -0700 Received: from mxout3.cac.washington.edu (mxout3.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.166]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4TNYakC006037 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO) for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 16:34:37 -0700 Received: from smtp.washington.edu (smtp.washington.edu [140.142.32.139]) by mxout3.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4TNYaSL028956 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 16:34:36 -0700 Received: from [10.95.135.3] (fw135.cac.washington.edu [128.95.135.30]) (authenticated bits=0) by smtp.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4TNYaQ0009424 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 16:34:36 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 16:34:29 -0700 (Pacific Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine 4.56 is now available MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: PINE-ANNOUNCE-owner@u.washington.edu X-To: Pine Announcement List X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIII, Probability=18%, Report="INVALID_MSGID, MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIII, Probability=18%, Report="INVALID_MSGID, MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIIII, Probability=19%, Report="INVALID_MSGID, MANY_USER_AGENTS, NOSPAM_INC, SPAM_PHRASE_02_03, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This note is to announce the availability of the Pine Message System version 4.56. This is a maintenance release with only a few new features. Perhaps the most notable changes are bug fixes for broken "mbox" functionality, for a crash when Taking to a Rule, for a crash when Sorting on some IMAP servers, and for a problem when forwarding address book entries and Taking them, which caused remote address book corruption. There is some new support for reading news from more than one NNTP server, a new tab-checks-recent feature to allow checking for new mail in a folder without opening it, and a few other small improvements. Specific information about changes can always be found in the built-in release notes ("R" off the Main Menu), or via any of: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes.html ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/ UNIX source code for the latest Pine release is available at: http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z (MD5: 7dac77ef15b5db4fdaf8bf899f6d28d3) ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.bz2 (MD5: 744992ab500ee265985eb078522e0604) ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.gz (MD5: 0e1fc91afffd8a6e20c527562f6a432f) Pre-built binaries are available for a small number of UNIX operating environments for citizens of the U.S. or Canada via: http://www.washington.edu/pine/getpine/ Instructions for building UNIX Pine are in the README file in the top-level directory of the tar file. The PC-Pine distribution is also available at the above url, or at: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/setup_pine_4.56.exe (MD5: 8761c1c7aab7348589f94d3959f3ebdc) Alternatively, the zip file (like we've distributed in the past) is also available at: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pcpine/pm456w32.zip (MD5: 08d183a65e32cd55d3a296a1d63d8726) As with all Pine releases, it is important that you carefully test and determine for yourself that it performs suitably in your environment before placing Pine into production use. Thanks. The Pine Development Team -- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- -- ------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/pine-announce.html ------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 29 May 2003 22:27:12 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4U5RB4S032208; Thu, 29 May 2003 22:27:11 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4U5R7F7016894 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 29 May 2003 22:27:08 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4U5OtlW011526; Thu, 29 May 2003 22:24:56 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4U5OB1M034120 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 22:24:11 -0700 Received: from mail.panaso.com (mail.panaso.com [199.60.48.162]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4U5OAYT031371 for ; Thu, 29 May 2003 22:24:10 -0700 Received: (qmail 31324 invoked from network); 30 May 2003 05:24:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.panaso.com with SMTP; 30 May 2003 05:24:04 -0000 Message-Id: <0305292220460.24243@neobe.cnanfb.pbz> Date: Thu, 29 May 2003 22:24:04 -0700 (PDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Tim Baur To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: gpg on pine In-Reply-To: <20030528223222.J1857@aslan.narnia.pp.se> References: <20030528223222.J1857@aslan.narnia.pp.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-PGP: 0x44DB0D83 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Wed, 28 May 2003, Mats Dufberg wrote: > I didn't know that there are solutions that require recompilation, but I > have at work installed some filters that wordk without special > compilation, . imo, pine-pgp-filters is far superious to pgp4pine. mail/pine-pgp-filters, or http://dougbarton.net/FreeBSD/Downloads/ just shell scripts, not OS dependant. quick, clean and fast. includes mime encoding support as well, to verify attached signatures. -tbaur From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4UAFN4S008899; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:15:23 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4UAFJF7023553 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 30 May 2003 03:15:19 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4UADKEg024786; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:13:20 -0700 Received: from mxu7.u.washington.edu (mxu7.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.165]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4UAC61M017618 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:12:06 -0700 Received: from neptun.sns-felb.debis.de (neptun.sns-felb.debis.de [53.122.101.2]) by mxu7.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4UABxf7029034 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 03:12:04 -0700 Received: by neptun.sns-felb.debis.de; id MAA20402; Fri, 30 May 2003 12:11:58 +0200 Received: from unknown(53.113.82.10) by neptun.sns-felb.debis.de via smap (V5.0) id xma020390; Fri, 30 May 03 12:11:50 +0200 Received: from mail1.c1.dsh.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dshmail1.dsh.de (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA24767; Fri, 30 May 2003 12:11:50 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from chnb124.clients.win.c1.dsh.de (chnb124.clients.win.c1.dsh.de [172.19.32.147]) by mail1.c1.dsh.de (8.10.0/8.10.0) with ESMTP id h4UABrT07967; Fri, 30 May 2003 12:11:53 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 12:11:49 +0200 (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Westeurop=E4ische_Sommerzeit?=) Reply-To: Rico Barth Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Rico Barth To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine / GnuPG In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Patrick van der Smagt X-Cc: Pine Info List X-X-Sender: ribarth@galaxy.c1.dsh.de X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIIIIII, Probability=28%, Report="DEAR_SOMEBODY, MANY_USER_AGENTS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, WEIRD_PORT, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIIIII, Probability=18%, Report="DEAR_SOMEBODY, MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, WEIRD_PORT, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Dear Mr. van der Smagt! On Tue, 27 May 2003, Patrick van der Smagt wrote: > I read your request at > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/2003.05/msg00002.html and > wondered if you found a solution for this problem? There's nobody out there who had a solution for this problem on Windows and PC-Pine. The Linux/Unix-Version from Pine is still working without this problem. I installed pine version 4.33 on Debian GNU Linux. For encrypting and decrypting I use the package pgp4pine. This contains any scripts to set up pgp-filters in pine. pgp4pine rules :-) If you search for the Unix/Linux-solution I could send my filter settings and pgp4pine settings. Bye and a nice weekend Rico Barth -- Dipl.-Math. Rico Barth T-Systems Systems Integration Berater BU Sachsen Anschrift: Clausstrasse 3 , 09126 Chemnitz Telefon: +49 ( 371) 5359 - 350 Telefax: +49 ( 371) 5359 - 133 Mobil: +49 ( 160) 94 82 15 82 E-Mail: Rico.Barth@t-systems.com Internet: http://www.t-systems.com PGP-Key: Fingerprint: 8A56 C021 6240 EAD5 AB42 EA2B 9B2E 1405 874C 8377 http://blackhole.pca.dfn.de:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x874C8377 From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 May 2003 08:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4UFln4S017943 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 08:47:49 -0700 Received: from list1.u.washington.edu (list1.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.99]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4UFlkF7032362 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 30 May 2003 08:47:46 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4UFjQEg007946; Fri, 30 May 2003 08:45:27 -0700 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.132]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4UFid1M007436 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 08:44:39 -0700 Received: from fleece.ucsd.edu (fleece.ucsd.edu [132.239.24.135]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4UFibOp015021 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 08:44:37 -0700 Received: (qmail 8109 invoked by uid 2032); 30 May 2003 15:42:51 -0000 Message-Id: <20030530154251.GB6456@fleece.ucsd.edu> Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:42:51 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Soo Hom To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: compilation error on solaris 9 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=IIIIII, Probability=6%, Report="SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __EVITE_CTYPE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIII, Probability=13%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, __EVITE_CTYPE, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT, __USER_AGENT_MUTT" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I am trying to build on a sun running solaris 9 pine 4.55. ecepop% uname -a SunOS ecepop 5.9 Generic_112233-04 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-1000 After running this build command I get errors and it fails to build: build gs5 SSLTYPE=none osdep.c: In function `PFLUSH': osdep.c:322: `stdout' undeclared (first use in this function) make[3]: *** [osdep.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/pine4.55/imap/c-client' make[2]: *** [gso] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/pine4.55/imap/c-client' make[1]: *** [OSTYPE] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/pine4.55/imap' make: *** [gso] Error 2 +---------------------------------------------+ | Problems building c-client | | | | Please check the output above for a | | possible explanation for this failure | +---------------------------------------------+ Any ideas how to fix this? Soo -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 30 May 2003 10:19:59 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4UHJx4S021336 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 10:19:59 -0700 Received: from list3.u.washington.edu (list3.u.washington.edu [140.142.8.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4UHJuF7003054 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Fri, 30 May 2003 10:19:57 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4UHHGDE019072; Fri, 30 May 2003 10:17:16 -0700 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4UHGG1M021384 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 10:16:16 -0700 Received: from concept.ocis.temple.edu (concept.ocis.temple.edu [155.247.27.102]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4UHGE85028081 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 10:16:15 -0700 Received: from concept.ocis.temple.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by concept.ocis.temple.edu (8.12.8p1/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h4UHGDn9029345 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 13:16:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (sbirl@localhost) by concept.ocis.temple.edu (8.12.8p1/8.12.8/Submit) with ESMTP id h4UHGDog029342 for ; Fri, 30 May 2003 13:16:13 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 13:16:13 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Birl To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: compilation error on solaris 9 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: sbirl@concept.ocis.temple.edu X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: concept.ocis.temple.edu: sbirl owned process doing -bs X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXXXI, Probability=61%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MISSING_MIMEOLE, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, X_AUTH_WARNING, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXXXXI, Probability=61%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MISSING_MIMEOLE, NO_MX_FOR_FROM, PRIORITY_NO_NAME, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, X_AUTH_WARNING, __HAS_MSMAIL_PRI, __HAS_X_PRIORITY, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN syhom: Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 08:42:51 -0700 syhom: From: Soo Hom syhom: To: Pine Discussion Forum syhom: Subject: compilation error on solaris 9 syhom: syhom: Hello, syhom: syhom: I am trying to build on a sun running solaris 9 pine 4.55. syhom: ecepop% uname -a syhom: SunOS ecepop 5.9 Generic_112233-04 sun4u sparc SUNW,Sun-Blade-1000 syhom: syhom: After running this build command I get errors and it fails to build: syhom: build gs5 SSLTYPE=none syhom: syhom: osdep.c: In function `PFLUSH': syhom: osdep.c:322: `stdout' undeclared (first use in this function) syhom: make[3]: *** [osdep.o] Error 1 syhom: make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/pine4.55/imap/c-client' syhom: make[2]: *** [gso] Error 2 syhom: make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/pine4.55/imap/c-client' syhom: make[1]: *** [OSTYPE] Error 2 syhom: make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/pine4.55/imap' syhom: make: *** [gso] Error 2 syhom: +---------------------------------------------+ syhom: | Problems building c-client | syhom: | | syhom: | Please check the output above for a | syhom: | possible explanation for this failure | syhom: +---------------------------------------------+ syhom: syhom: syhom: Any ideas how to fix this? syhom: syhom: syhom: Soo If your compiler cannot find stdio.h and/or stdlib.h that's a problem. Are you compiling as root or non-superuser? What's your $PATH? Scott Birl Senior Systems Administrator Computer Services Temple University ====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====+====*====*====*====*====*====*====*====* From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 May 2003 08:36:37 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4VFab4S025389 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 08:36:37 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4VFaWF7005013 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 31 May 2003 08:36:33 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4VFYClW029306; Sat, 31 May 2003 08:34:12 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4VFX11M036666 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 08:33:01 -0700 Received: from imf47bis.bellsouth.net (mail211.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.151]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4VFWxkB032136 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 08:32:59 -0700 Received: from matty.com ([65.81.144.72]) by imf47bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.25 201-253-122-122-125-20020815) with ESMTP id <20030531153513.FKDQ24915.imf47bis.bellsouth.net@matty.com> for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 11:35:13 -0400 Received: from winnie (winnie [192.168.1.2]) by matty.com (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h4VFWwSG004784 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 11:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 11:32:58 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mattyml@bellsouth.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mattyml@bellsouth.net To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Integrating Spam Assassin into Pine 4.56 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: matty@winnie.matty.com X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: 1024D/92D5DFFF 4BEC 6145 30A6 BCE6 5602 FF11 4954 165D 92D5 DFFF X-GPG-PUBLIC_KEY: http://www.daemons.net/~matty/public_key.txt X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIIIIIII, Probability=37%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, NO_REAL_NAME, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXII, Probability=32%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NO_REAL_NAME, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Howdy, Does anyone happen to know if pine provides facilities to invoke external programs on a message? I would like to be able to hit a pre-defined keystroke when I get spam, and run spamassassin --add-addr-to-blacklist=addr on the message. Anyone by any chance done this? If not, does anyone have any info on how I could call an external program on a message? Thanks, - Ryan -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 May 2003 08:50:48 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4VFol4S025710; Sat, 31 May 2003 08:50:47 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4VFohF7005335 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 31 May 2003 08:50:44 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4VFmnlW019136; Sat, 31 May 2003 08:48:49 -0700 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4VFm41M030844 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 08:48:04 -0700 Received: from gate.ggr.co.uk (gate.ggr.co.uk [193.128.25.10]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4VFm1vw000862 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 08:48:02 -0700 Received: (uucp@localhost) by gate.ggr.co.uk; Sat, 31 May 2003 16:51:08 +0100 (BST) Received: from uk-stv-mhub4.ggr.co.uk(147.184.2.4) by gb-stv-fw2.ggr.co.uk via smap (V5.5) id xma000468; Sat, 31 May 03 16:50:58 +0100 Received: from ukwsv2.ggr.co.uk (root@ukwsv2.ggr.co.uk [147.184.215.233]) by mailhub2.ggr.co.uk; Sat, 31 May 2003 16:47:50 +0100 (BST) Received: from A1-PSH2.poland.glaxo by ukwsv2.ggr.co.uk; Sat, 31 May 2003 16:49:03 +0100 (BST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 16:48:01 +0100 (GMT Daylight Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Lord Kimberley To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Integrating Spam Assassin into Pine 4.56 In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: w0400@ggr.co.uk X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIII, Probability=25%, Report="FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXIIIII, Probability=25%, Report="FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MANY_USER_AGENTS, SIGNATURE_SHORT_DENSE, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hmm, I would suggest a better mehtod is using SpamAssassin with procmail to do the filtering before you get the messages and then using the baynean part sa-learn on any spam not correctly tagged. Blacklists can be a waste of time, if you never get another message from the blacklisted address. I must say the messages collect interesting headers ... X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXII, Probability=32%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NO_REAL_NAME, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_01,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3,NO_REAL_NAME,USER_AGENT_PINE version=2.55 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) -- Yours John. From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 May 2003 11:58:34 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4VIwY4S029233 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 11:58:34 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4VIwVF7009442 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 31 May 2003 11:58:31 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4VIu0lW015542; Sat, 31 May 2003 11:56:00 -0700 Received: from mxu5.u.washington.edu (mxu5.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.164]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4VIst1M020786 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 11:54:55 -0700 Received: from ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com (ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com [24.92.226.153]) by mxu5.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4VIsrvw006014 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 11:54:54 -0700 Received: from syr-24-58-81-99.twcny.rr.com (syr-24-58-81-99.twcny.rr.com [24.58.81.99]) by ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h4VIsril016761; Sat, 31 May 2003 14:54:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 14:54:53 -0400 (EDT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Karl Kingston To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Integrating Spam Assassin into Pine 4.56 In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Lord Kimberley X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: kkingsto@kingstonnet.com X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXII, Probability=32%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, RCVD_IN_MULTIHOP_DSBL, RCVD_IN_UNCONFIRMED_DSBL, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XIIIIII, Probability=16%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN OR he can use "IMAPAssassin" if his ISP is using the IMAP protocol. I use it here and it works OK. Just that you have to call it before calling Pine. Once you call up pine, you'll find the messages have already been deleted (but not expunged). On Sat, 31 May 2003, Lord Kimberley wrote: > > Hmm, I would suggest a better mehtod is using SpamAssassin with procmail to > do the filtering before you get the messages and then using the baynean part > sa-learn on any spam not correctly tagged. Blacklists can be a waste of > time, if you never get another message from the blacklisted address. > > I must say the messages collect interesting headers ... > X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXII, Probability=32%, > Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NO_REAL_NAME, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, > __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5.0 > tests=BAYES_01,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3,NO_REAL_NAME,USER_AGENT_PINE > version=2.55 > X-Spam-Level: > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > > From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 May 2003 12:07:24 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4VJ7O4S029634 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 12:07:24 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h4VJ7EF7009771 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 31 May 2003 12:07:20 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h4VJ5jlW016804; Sat, 31 May 2003 12:05:45 -0700 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.133]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4VJ551M015008 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 12:05:05 -0700 Received: from imf31bis.bellsouth.net (mail331.mail.bellsouth.net [205.152.58.209]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h4VJ4xkB013213 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 12:05:00 -0700 Received: from matty.com ([65.81.144.72]) by imf31bis.bellsouth.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.25 201-253-122-122-125-20020815) with ESMTP id <20030531190713.GJVH6261.imf31bis.bellsouth.net@matty.com> for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 15:07:13 -0400 Received: from winnie (winnie [192.168.1.2]) by matty.com (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h4VJ4wSG005830 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 15:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 15:04:58 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mattyml@bellsouth.net Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mattyml@bellsouth.net To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Integrating Spam Assassin into Pine 4.56 In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-X-Sender: matty@winnie.matty.com X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: 1024D/92D5DFFF 4BEC 6145 30A6 BCE6 5602 FF11 4954 165D 92D5 DFFF X-GPG-PUBLIC_KEY: http://www.daemons.net/~matty/public_key.txt X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXIIIIIIII, Probability=38%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3, NO_REAL_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXX, Probability=30%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NO_REAL_NAME, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_03_05, __IN_REP_TO, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __REFERENCES, __USER_AGENT_PINE" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I did some furhter digging, and would like to be able to invoke a command from within pine. I found pipes, but that requires me to type teh command each time I want to send a message to the blacklist or sa-learn script. Is there a way to map a control sequence to the execution of a script? If I get a spam in my inbox, I would like to hit cntrl+blah and have the message sent to sa-learn. Has anyone accomplished this before? Thanks, - Ryan On Sat, 31 May 2003, Karl Kingston wrote: > OR he can use "IMAPAssassin" if his ISP is using the IMAP protocol. I use > it here and it works OK. Just that you have to call it before calling > Pine. Once you call up pine, you'll find the messages have already been > deleted (but not expunged). > > > > On Sat, 31 May 2003, Lord Kimberley wrote: > > > > > Hmm, I would suggest a better mehtod is using SpamAssassin with procmail to > > do the filtering before you get the messages and then using the baynean part > > sa-learn on any spam not correctly tagged. Blacklists can be a waste of > > time, if you never get another message from the blacklisted address. > > > > I must say the messages collect interesting headers ... > > X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XXXII, Probability=32%, > > Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, NO_REAL_NAME, SPAM_PHRASE_01_02, > > __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_PINE" > > X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-3.4 required=5.0 > > tests=BAYES_01,MSG_ID_ADDED_BY_MTA_3,NO_REAL_NAME,USER_AGENT_PINE > > version=2.55 > > X-Spam-Level: > > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.55 (1.174.2.19-2003-05-19-exp) > > > > > > > Ryan Matteson - UNIX Administrator | GPG ID: 92D5DFFF Public Key: http://www.daemons.net/~matty/public_key.txt Fingerprint = 4BEC 6145 30A6 BCE6 5602 FF11 4954 165D 92D5 DFFF From pinedev@shivax2.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-2000(13) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 31 May 2003 17:38:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h510cT4S003282 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 17:38:29 -0700 Received: from list2.u.washington.edu (list2.u.washington.edu [140.142.14.165]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW02.12) with ESMTP id h510cRF7016649 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Sat, 31 May 2003 17:38:27 -0700 Received: from host (lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by list2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h510a4lW029252; Sat, 31 May 2003 17:36:04 -0700 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with ESMTP id h510ZE1M060024 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 17:35:14 -0700 Received: from 192.168.1.2 (12-208-224-221.client.attbi.com [12.208.224.221]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.12.1+UW03.04/8.12.1+UW03.02) with SMTP id h510ZCYT007395 for ; Sat, 31 May 2003 17:35:13 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.102] by 192.168.1.2 (AppleMailServer 10.2.2.0) id 284783 via TCP with SMTP; Sat, 31 May 2003 18:35:11 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 18:35:09 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Bartosh To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Repost: kerberos, pine and Mac OS X Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v552) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Forum X-Uwash-Spam: Gauge=XII, Probability=12%, Report="MANY_USER_AGENTS, QUOTED_EMAIL_TEXT, SPAM_PHRASE_00_01, __EVITE_CTYPE, __HAS_X_MAILER, __MANY_USER_AGENTS, __USER_AGENT_APPLEMAIL" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN No one ever really replied to this... Just a repost- has anyone managed to get kerberized pine to run on Mac OS X? In general I'd rather use pine than Mail.app... Begin forwarded message: > From: Michael Bartosh > Date: Wed May 7, 2003 3:05:32 PM America/Denver > To: Pine Discussion Forum > Subject: kerberos, pine and Mac OS X > > > Anyone gotten pine to do kerberos auth on Mac OS X (for either imap or > smtp?) > > I get : > > [Server disables LOGIN, no recognized SASL authenticator] > > The build appeared to go correctly... Mail.app works fine with kerb > auth on the same account/ server. Server is specified like this: > inbox-path={bw.4am-media.com}INBOX > > Thanks- > > > http://www.4am-media.com > Mac OS X Consulting and Training > Michael Bartosh > mbartosh@4am-media.com > 303.517.0272 > Denver, CO > > > "The surest way to corrupt a youth is to instruct him to hold in higher > regard those who think alike than those who think differently." > > - -- Nietzsche > > Think Different. > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ -----------------------------------------------------------------