From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 07:11:09 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:11:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA14144; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:11:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA21922; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:11:07 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA25752; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:09:58 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA33486 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:07:28 -0800 Received: from zooty.lancs.ac.uk (zooty.lancs.ac.uk [148.88.16.231]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA21676 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:07:26 -0800 Received: from unixc.lancs.ac.uk ([148.88.16.116]) by zooty.lancs.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12QAij-0002TI-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 15:07:25 +0000 Received: from localhost (brake@localhost) by unixc.lancs.ac.uk (8.9.1b+Sun/8.6.12) with ESMTP id PAA23952 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:07:24 GMT Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 15:07:23 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Mr GeorgioFattyO'Cretin" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine accessing Unix folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: unixc.lancs.ac.uk: brake owned process doing -bs X-Sender: brake@unixc.lancs.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Sorry, this didn't get through first time... > Hi, > I've managed to set up PC Pine with my pop server at University, but I > would like to be able to use the same folders etc. as my remote Unix > Pine account. I've also copied the .addressbook file (and renamed it > addrbook), but I'd rather I could properly synchronise the two. > > Is this possible? I'm assuming I'll need extra software to be able to > access the unix folders (sent mail, saved messages etc.) from the > Windows side of things (or does PC-Pine have these capabilities > inbuilt?) > > Also, whenever I use PC-Pine to access the inbox, it states that all > messages are new, when they're not. Is there anyway around this? > > Thanks very much, > George -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 07:47:24 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:47:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA18956; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA10171; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:47:21 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA27419; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:46:12 -0800 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA33432 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:45:29 -0800 Received: from dante01.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante01.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.3]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id HAA19088; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:45:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA89582; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:45:27 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 07:45:27 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: PC-Pine accessing Unix folders In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Mr GeorgioFattyO'Cretin" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It sounds like your University doesn't have an IMAP server, or if they do, you're not using it. Using IMAP, you can access the same mail folders from any mail client anywhere, and you can even put your address book up and access it, too. Pine was designed for IMAP, so see if your University has an IMAP server. If so, I'd strongly suggest using it. For more info on setting up PC-Pine, including how to put your address book on an IMAP server, check out Nancy's excellent page at: http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/ -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Wed, 1 Mar 2000, Mr GeorgioFattyO'Cretin wrote: > Sorry, this didn't get through first time... > > > Hi, > > I've managed to set up PC Pine with my pop server at University, but I > > would like to be able to use the same folders etc. as my remote Unix > > Pine account. I've also copied the .addressbook file (and renamed it > > addrbook), but I'd rather I could properly synchronise the two. > > > > Is this possible? I'm assuming I'll need extra software to be able to > > access the unix folders (sent mail, saved messages etc.) from the > > Windows side of things (or does PC-Pine have these capabilities > > inbuilt?) > > > > Also, whenever I use PC-Pine to access the inbox, it states that all > > messages are new, when they're not. Is there anyway around this? > > > > Thanks very much, > > George > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 17:42:41 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:42:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA02328; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA11436; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:42:33 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id RAA18521; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:41:01 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA56726 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:38:40 -0800 Received: from mail.neta.com (nfs.neta.com [206.124.164.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id RAA31861 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 17:38:40 -0800 Received: (qmail 6908 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2000 01:38:34 -0000 Received: from functionalprogramming.cql.com (HELO functionalprogramming.com) (seth@208.194.82.228) by nfs.neta.com with SMTP; 2 Mar 2000 01:38:34 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:35:10 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Seth Kurtzberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: A Pine editing question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Mailing List X-Sender: seth@functionalprogramming.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN All, Is there a command in Pine that works like the emacs "fill paragraph"? That is, when I go back and add text in the middle of a paragraph, and end up with short lines, is there a command to modify the text so that it appears as it would if I had typed it directly, without corrections? Seth Kurtzberg Machine Independent Software Cell (602) 478-5511 Fax: (480) 614-8909 email: seth@cql.com pager: 888-605-9296 or email 6059296@skytel.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 18:05:40 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:05:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA28088; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:05:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA30987; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:05:38 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA19734; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:04:17 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA56768 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:03:35 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA05135 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:03:34 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23595; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:03:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 18:03:33 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A Pine editing question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Seth Kurtzberg X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Seth Kurtzberg wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Is there a command in Pine that works like the emacs "fill paragraph"? :) That is, when I go back and add text in the middle of a paragraph, and end :) up with short lines, is there a command to modify the text so that it :) appears as it would if I had typed it directly, without corrections? :) Yes and not. There is a command to Justify a paragraph (^J). This command will justify correctly quoted text, but only the first level of quoting, other levels get messed. It also assumes that every line in the same paragraph (except the first) has a character (different from blank) in the first column. Otherwise the complete paragraph won't get completely justified. If you believe that Pico did not justify correctly a paragraph you can undo it pressing ^U. The catch is that this command works only if you do it exactly after pressing ^J, otherwise ^U is mapped to Uncut Text and pressing that by mistake may make things worse for you. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 19:08:29 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:08:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id TAA31817; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:08:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA32242; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:08:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id TAA22733; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:06:46 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA03750 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:06:00 -0800 Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA10649 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:05:59 -0800 Received: from laratech.com (laratech.com [209.237.20.194]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA13390 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:05:59 -0800 Received: from asteria.laratech.COM (emily [192.168.100.212]) by laratech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA18642; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: by asteria.laratech.COM (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA05599; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:05:11 -0800 Message-Id: <200003020305.TAA05599@asteria.laratech.COM> Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 19:05:11 -0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: vibhu@laratech.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine related email question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: WebEJtWLTyIaVx2wcpVL6A== X-To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Cc: vibhu@laratech.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I am sure this is not really a problem with pine, but I get these error messages when I run pin 4.21 on my solaris 2.5: When I start pine, I get the message: [Incomplete maildomain "asteria".] asteria is my hostname. Then after a few seconds, I get this message: [Return address in mail you send may be incorrect.] In the return address, the name of the host gets put in. So my return address becomes: vibhu@asteria.laratech.com. Now, if the receiver of my mail tries to reply to this address, the reply bounces and is not delivered to me. BTW: I am sending this email from dtmail, the sun's email reader. Any help would be appreciated. Vibhu@laratech.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 20:08:59 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:08:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id UAA26628; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:08:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA14706; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:08:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id UAA24968; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:06:54 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA37282 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:06:08 -0800 Received: from marseille.nitnet.com.br (marseille.nitnet.com.br [200.255.111.44]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA16645 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:06:05 -0800 Received: from loopback ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=fredlwm) by marseille.nitnet.com.br with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12QMs2-0004aC-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 01:05:50 -0300 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 01:05:50 -0300 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Frederic L. W. Meunier" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A Pine editing question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Sender: fredlwm@marseille.nitnet.com.br X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN BTW, I'm using Pine with Pico since a long time, but never had success trying to mark some lines of text to remove them later. I looked at the help for this, but the key sequence didn't work. ^^ isn't working for me. Any hints? Or any way to make it more user friendly, say, change this binding? Thanks in advance. On 2000-03-01 (Yesterday) at 18:03 -0800, Eduardo Chappa L. typed: | *** Seth Kurtzberg wrote in the pine-info list today: |=20 | :) Is there a command in Pine that works like the emacs "fill paragraph"? | :) That is, when I go back and add text in the middle of a paragraph, and= end | :) up with short lines, is there a command to modify the text so that it | :) appears as it would if I had typed it directly, without corrections? |=20 | Yes and not. There is a command to Justify a paragraph (^J). (more) --=20 Fr=E9d=E9ric L. W. Meunier [Tel: +55-21-620-7173 - Niter=F3i-RJ Brasil] fredlwm@{olympiquedemarseille.org,{marseille.}nitnet.com.br} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 20:28:03 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:28:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id UAA04667; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:28:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA01616; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:27:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id UAA29829; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:26:38 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA18244 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:26:00 -0800 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA15438 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 20:25:53 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (IDENT:root@[203.197.59.25]) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27426; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:55:21 +0530 (IST) Received: from localhost (IDENT:satyap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA21563; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:57:08 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 09:57:08 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine related email question In-Reply-To: <200003020305.TAA05599@asteria.laratech.COM> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: vibhu@laratech.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 1, 2000 at 19:05, vibhu@laratech.com wrote: > I am sure this is not really a problem with pine, but I get these error > messages when I run pin 4.21 on my solaris 2.5: > > When I start pine, I get the message: > > [Incomplete maildomain "asteria".] > > asteria is my hostname. In pine setup, set userdomain to laratech.com and be sure to read the associated help text. -- Satya. http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ Mumbai bus guide at http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ ! FREE! Email reminder service at http://satyaonline.cjb.net/rem.html <<< Hi! I'm a tagline virus! Steal me & join in the fun! >>> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 21:11:17 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:11:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA02058; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:11:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA15994; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:11:15 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA00902; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:10:07 -0800 Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA29738 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:08:55 -0800 Received: from dante15.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante15.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.84]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id VAA15032; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:08:54 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante15.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA47582; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:08:53 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:08:53 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A Pine editing question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Frederic L. W. Meunier" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN ^^ is Ctrl-Shift-6. You press those keys, then move your cursor, and then you can use ^K to cut the text. Does that work? -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Frederic L. W. Meunier wrote: > BTW, I'm using Pine with Pico since a long time, but never had > success trying to mark some lines of text to remove them later. > I looked at the help for this, but the key sequence didn't > work. ^^ isn't working for me. Any hints? Or any way to make it > more user friendly, say, change this binding? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 21:22:21 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:22:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA24196; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:22:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA16203; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:22:19 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA01299; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:21:14 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA52814 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:20:37 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA10380; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:20:36 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA02468; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:20:36 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:20:35 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A Pine editing question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Scott Leibrand wrote in the pine-info list today: :) ^^ is Ctrl-Shift-6. You press those keys, then move your cursor, and then :) you can use ^K to cut the text. Does that work? :) If that did not work try setting your character set to iso-8859-1 and pressing ESC-ESC-shift-6. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 21:23:58 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:23:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA25320; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:23:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA02782; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:23:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA26921; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:22:50 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA54968 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:21:13 -0800 Received: from chia.umiacs.umd.edu (chia.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.111]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA24436; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:21:12 -0800 Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by chia.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id AAA12691; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 00:21:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 00:21:02 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: ADAM Sulmicki To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A Pine editing question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: chia.umiacs.umd.edu: adam owned process doing -bs X-Sender: adam@chia.umiacs.umd.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > ^^ is Ctrl-Shift-6. You press those keys, then move your cursor, and then > you can use ^K to cut the text. Interesting, I alwasy used Ctrl-6 and it worked for me, even though it technically is ^6. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 21:25:31 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:25:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA04744; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:25:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA16260; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:25:29 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA09348; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:24:14 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA52856 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:22:10 -0800 Received: from marseille.nitnet.com.br (exim@marseille.nitnet.com.br [200.255.111.44]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA24536 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:22:07 -0800 Received: from loopback ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=fredlwm) by marseille.nitnet.com.br with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12QO3k-0004aq-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 02:22:00 -0300 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:22:00 -0300 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Frederic L. W. Meunier" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A Pine editing question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Sender: fredlwm@marseille.nitnet.com.br X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 2000-03-01 (Yesterday) at 21:08 -0800, Scott Leibrand typed: | ^^ is Ctrl-Shift-6. You press those keys, then move your | cursor, and then you can use ^K to cut the text. Does that | work? No. If I press Ctrl+Shift+6 simultaneously, when I move the cursor for the first time it stays in the same place. When I move it again it works. But it's not marking the text. It's very strange. I tried a lot. All keys are working on other applications. I use Pine with XTerm 127. --=20 Fr=E9d=E9ric L. W. Meunier [Tel: +55-21-620-7173 - Niter=F3i-RJ Brasil] fredlwm@{olympiquedemarseille.org,{marseille.}nitnet.com.br} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 21:35:30 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:35:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA05913; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:35:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA16420; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:35:28 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA09727; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:33:56 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA51194 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:33:21 -0800 Received: from marseille.nitnet.com.br (exim@marseille.nitnet.com.br [200.255.111.44]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA25563 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:33:17 -0800 Received: from loopback ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=fredlwm) by marseille.nitnet.com.br with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12QOEZ-0004b6-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 02:33:11 -0300 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:33:10 -0300 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Frederic L. W. Meunier" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A Pine editing question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Sender: fredlwm@marseille.nitnet.com.br X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 2000-03-01 (Yesterday) at 21:20 -0800, Eduardo Chappa L. typed: | *** Scott Leibrand wrote in the pine-info list today: |=20 | :) ^^ is Ctrl-Shift-6. You press those keys, then move your cursor, and = then | :) you can use ^K to cut the text. Does that work? | :)=20 |=20 | If that did not work try setting your character set to iso-8859-1 and | pressing ESC-ESC-shift-6. I tried with this too. I need to press ESC, ESC, and shift+6? When I do that I get a beep and [B is printed after the second move of the cursor. If I select some lines of text and use ^K it only deletes the actual line. Hmm, my system may be misconfigured? --=20 Fr=E9d=E9ric L. W. Meunier [Tel: +55-21-620-7173 - Niter=F3i-RJ Brasil] fredlwm@{olympiquedemarseille.org,{marseille.}nitnet.com.br} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 21:39:46 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:39:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA06112; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:39:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA16516; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:39:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA10015; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:38:23 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA52912 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:37:10 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA11969 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:37:10 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01850; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:37:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:37:06 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A Pine editing question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Frederic L. W. Meunier" X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Frederic L. W. Meunier wrote in the pine-info list on Mar 2, 2000: :) | If that did not work try setting your character set to iso-8859-1 and :) | pressing ESC-ESC-shift-6. :) :) I tried with this too. I need to press ESC, ESC, and shift+6? yes, that's what you need to do. Do you have pine set up so that your charset is iso-8859-1? -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 21:42:07 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:42:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA03303; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:42:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA03095; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:42:04 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA27625; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:40:33 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA10416 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:39:24 -0800 Received: from marseille.nitnet.com.br (exim@marseille.nitnet.com.br [200.255.111.44]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA26136 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:39:21 -0800 Received: from loopback ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=fredlwm) by marseille.nitnet.com.br with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12QOKR-0004bI-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 02:39:15 -0300 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:39:15 -0300 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Frederic L. W. Meunier" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A Pine editing question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Sender: fredlwm@marseille.nitnet.com.br X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hahaha, Ctrl-6 works! ^6 isn't the same? Thanks all. I just don't know why we have to use different keys. But it's working. On 2000-03-02 (Today) at 00:21 -0500, ADAM Sulmicki typed: | > ^^ is Ctrl-Shift-6. You press those keys, then move your cursor, and t= hen | > you can use ^K to cut the text. |=20 | Interesting, I alwasy used Ctrl-6 and it worked for me, even though | it technically is ^6. --=20 Fr=E9d=E9ric L. W. Meunier [Tel: +55-21-620-7173 - Niter=F3i-RJ Brasil] fredlwm@{olympiquedemarseille.org,{marseille.}nitnet.com.br} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 21:45:02 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:45:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA05840; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA03137; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:44:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA02481; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:43:33 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA10332 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:40:44 -0800 Received: from marseille.nitnet.com.br (exim@marseille.nitnet.com.br [200.255.111.44]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA29930 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 21:40:41 -0800 Received: from loopback ([127.0.0.1] helo=localhost ident=fredlwm) by marseille.nitnet.com.br with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12QOLh-0004bQ-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 02:40:33 -0300 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 02:40:33 -0300 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Frederic L. W. Meunier" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A Pine editing question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Sender: fredlwm@marseille.nitnet.com.br X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On 2000-03-01 (Yesterday) at 21:37 -0800, Eduardo Chappa L. typed: | *** Frederic L. W. Meunier wrote in the pine-info list on Mar 2, 2000: |=20 | :) | If that did not work try setting your character set to iso-8859-1 an= d | :) | pressing ESC-ESC-shift-6. | :)=20 | :) I tried with this too. I need to press ESC, ESC, and shift+6? |=20 | yes, that's what you need to do. Do you have pine set up so that your | charset is iso-8859-1? Yes (I'm a Brazilian-French). But it's working now with Ctrl-6. Thanks. --=20 Fr=E9d=E9ric L. W. Meunier [Tel: +55-21-620-7173 - Niter=F3i-RJ Brasil] fredlwm@{olympiquedemarseille.org,{marseille.}nitnet.com.br} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Wed Mar 1 22:26:11 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:26:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA06106; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA03912; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:26:09 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id WAA03739; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:24:56 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA25852 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:23:59 -0800 Received: from taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (taxa.psyc.missouri.edu [128.206.38.235]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA17045 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2000 22:23:58 -0800 Received: from localhost (mbmiller@localhost) by taxa.psyc.missouri.edu (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id AAA04844 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 00:23:58 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 00:23:58 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mike Miller To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A Pine editing question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, ADAM Sulmicki wrote: > > ^^ is Ctrl-Shift-6. You press those keys, then move your cursor, and then > > you can use ^K to cut the text. > > Interesting, I alwasy used Ctrl-6 and it worked for me, even though > it technically is ^6. Same here, at least in Xterm. I'm not sure about telnet window (vt100). Also, I can use ^2 instead of ^@ and ^- instead of ^_. In other words, the shift key is not needed for these commands. Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 2 03:30:25 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:30:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id DAA08635; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:30:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA23416; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:30:17 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id DAA17457; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:29:21 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA31168 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:28:15 -0800 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA19406 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:28:07 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (IDENT:root@[203.197.57.47]) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA25385 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 16:57:51 +0530 (IST) Received: from localhost (IDENT:satyap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA21704 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:04:00 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:04:00 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A Pine editing question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 2, 2000 at 01:05, Frederic L. W. Meunier wrote: > work. ^^ isn't working for me. Any hints? Or any way to make it > more user friendly, say, change this binding? Try ESC-ESC-(Shift+6). That's two escapes followed by a shifted 6. That's assuming your ^ is on the 6. -- Satya. http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ Mumbai bus guide at http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ ! FREE! Email reminder service at http://satyaonline.cjb.net/rem.html <<< Hi! I'm a tagline virus! Steal me & join in the fun! >>> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 2 03:51:11 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:51:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id DAA13314; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA23816; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:51:09 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id DAA17741; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:50:13 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA39414 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:49:42 -0800 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id DAA07321 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 03:49:25 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (IDENT:root@[203.197.58.220]) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA26296 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 17:19:15 +0530 (IST) Received: from localhost (IDENT:satyap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA22403 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 17:16:17 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 17:16:17 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A Pine editing question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 2, 2000 at 00:21, ADAM Sulmicki wrote: > Interesting, I alwasy used Ctrl-6 and it worked for me, even though > it technically is ^6. ctrl-6 and ^6 are the same. I would like to note that I now use ^6 instead of esc esc shift-6. ^6 used to not work on my dialup on a vt102 emulator but works on my linux console with pine's charset set to iso-8859-1 (dunno what happens with us-ascii, which is what it used to be, on linux and the vt102 emu). ^^ still doesn't work. Pine 4.10 here. Note that setting a mark and typing will simultaneously type and select. Point of interest: esc is same as ^[, so ^[ ^[ followed by shift-6 also works. UI if you have a really weird terminal emulator. -- Satya. http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ Mumbai bus guide at http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ ! FREE! Email reminder service at http://satyaonline.cjb.net/rem.html <<< Hi! I'm a tagline virus! Steal me & join in the fun! >>> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 2 06:12:14 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:12:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA04030; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:12:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA13338; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:12:12 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA07498; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:11:13 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA29868 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:09:42 -0800 Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA24250 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 06:09:41 -0800 Received: from quinag.csi.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.10.53] helo=cam.ac.uk) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12QWIN-000524-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 14:09:39 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:09:58 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Barry Landy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Content-type: header MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: bl10@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN One of my users wishes to set the content-tpe header to text/enriched so that she can use this is in bold to embolden text (and if you did not see the meta-symbols and only boldened text, the meta symbols were "<"bold">" and "<"/bold">" ). We have several versions of Pine around: it seems as though 3.95/3.96 permits setting Customised-headers to Content-type: text/enriched but modern versions (4.10 and 4.21) give an error message "not allowed to change header "Content-type"". Is this deliberate? have I missed something? Is there some other way to achieve this effect? -- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:bl10@cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Mar 2 11:28:12 2000 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:28:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA08065; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:28:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA04117; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:28:10 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA02964; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:26:24 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA29746 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:24:48 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA25520 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:24:45 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14191; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:24:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 11:24:41 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Content-type: header In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Barry Landy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Barry Landy wrote in the pine-info list today: :) One of my users wishes to set the content-tpe header to text/enriched :) Is there some other way to achieve this effect? :) Dear Barry, There is a way to accomplish this, I posted this message to this list a few months ago and here I am reposting it again. Notice that this allows you to change the content-type header to text/html etc... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Quoted text" Here's the way to do it. You have to follow several steps in order to make this work. First you have to create a script, say we call it mime_types. Your file mime_types should say something like this: #!/bin/sh echo "Content-Type:text/html" > $2 [note: You may need to replace echo by "echo -n"] remember to give yourself execution permission for this file. Then you should go to your configuration file, and where it says sending-filters it should say: sending-filters=/full/path/to/myme_types _TMPFILE_ _MIMETYPE_ This is enough to accomplish the task, but you should continue to the next step anyway. After you do this take a look at the following configuration option: [ ] compose-send-offers-first-filter and read its help in order to understand what it does. I have it checked. Somehow, I could not change Charset to iso-8859-1, which was something I wanted, it always uses US-ASCII End of "Quoted text" ------------------------ Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:00:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA27092; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA28027; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:00:52 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id NAA03582; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:59:04 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA33346 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:58:01 -0800 Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA09068 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 13:58:01 -0800 Received: from csfpc2.fitz.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.226.29] helo=cam.ac.uk) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12QdbZ-0001Ka-00; Thu, 02 Mar 2000 21:57:57 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 22:00:00 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Barry Landy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Content-type: header In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Eduardo Chappa L." X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: bl10@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This advice is based on the unix version of pine. What about PC-pine? The other problem is that the regime in which the mail is processed is a protected shell system, so users cannot obey scripts. On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Eduardo Chappa L. wrote: :>*** Barry Landy wrote in the pine-info list today: :> :>:) One of my users wishes to set the content-tpe header to text/enriched :>:) Is there some other way to achieve this effect? :>:) :>Dear Barry, :> :> There is a way to accomplish this, I posted this message to this list a :>few months ago and here I am reposting it again. Notice that this allows :>you to change the content-type header to text/html etc... :> :>------------------------------------------------------------------------ :>"Quoted text" :> :>Here's the way to do it. You have to follow several steps in order to make :>this work. :> :>First you have to create a script, say we call it mime_types. Your file :>mime_types should say something like this: :> :>#!/bin/sh :>echo "Content-Type:text/html" > $2 :> :>[note: You may need to replace echo by "echo -n"] :> :>remember to give yourself execution permission for this file. :> :>Then you should go to your configuration file, and where it says :>sending-filters it should say: :> :>sending-filters=/full/path/to/myme_types _TMPFILE_ _MIMETYPE_ :> :>This is enough to accomplish the task, but you should continue to the next :>step anyway. :> :>After you do this take a look at the following configuration option: :> :> [ ] compose-send-offers-first-filter :> :>and read its help in order to understand what it does. I have it checked. :>Somehow, I could not change Charset to iso-8859-1, which was something I :>wanted, it always uses US-ASCII :> :>End of "Quoted text" :>------------------------ :> :>Eduardo :>http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine :> :> :> :> :> :> :> -- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 192, Gilbert Road Direct line: +44 1223 334713 Cambridge CB4 3PB Home: +44-1223-570417 Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:44:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA28517; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:44:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA10683; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:44:13 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA05670; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:42:00 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA32014 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:40:07 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA26175 for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:40:07 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.2]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02112; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:40:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 2 Mar 2000 14:40:03 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Content-type: header In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Barry Landy X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Barry Landy wrote in the pine-info list today: :) This advice is based on the unix version of pine. What about PC-pine? :) :) The other problem is that the regime in which the mail is processed is a :) protected shell system, so users cannot obey scripts. :) This is the only way to do it from within the program. Pine does not provide another way to do it by itself. You can always try to postpone the message and edit the headers of the postponed message, I do not know if that will have the desired effect, but I assume it does. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:12:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id AAA05389; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA11235; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:12:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id AAA22625; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:10:46 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA48036 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:00:04 -0800 Received: from dsl-ch-l15-c80-n249-i138-cgy.nucleus.com (dsl-ch-l15-c80-n249-i138-cgy.nucleus.com [209.115.249.138]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id AAA25565 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:00:03 -0800 Received: (qmail 2565 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2000 00:59:51 -0700 Received: from dsl-ch-l15-c80-n249-i136-cgy.nucleus.com (HELO vodacomm) (209.115.249.136) by dsl-ch-l15-c80-n249-i138-cgy.nucleus.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2000 00:59:52 -0700 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:59:18 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Stephen Bosch" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine and IMAP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Pine" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello: I have decided to use Pine as my character interface MUA on a server running IMAP. Mostly the installation works, but there are a few problems I am struggling to resolve. (I am using /var/spool/mail for incoming mail, the UW imapd, and qmail.) 1) By default, the Pine INBOX is read-only. 2) If I change the inbox-path variable to {localhost}inbox so that the Pine inbox is *not* read-only, the rsh login attempt times out, after which Pine asks me for the account password. Then and only then can I access the Inbox. This is a pain. I'd like to have it automatically log-in. 3) Having done this, Pine now puts a sent-mail folder in /var/spool/mail, something I don't want. There has to be a better way to configure Pine for IMAP. Can anyone give me any suggestions? Finally, there is another issue -- how can I set the "user" so that my reply-to address reflects my e-mail aliases instead of my login id? Much thanks, Stephen Bosch -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:19:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id AAA26164; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA11393; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:19:21 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id AAA01123; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:18:18 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA52338 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:16:45 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA22063 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:16:45 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.2]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA27873; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:16:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:16:40 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine and IMAP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Stephen Bosch X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Stephen Bosch wrote in the pine-info list today: :) 2) If I change the inbox-path variable to {localhost}inbox so that the Pine :) inbox is *not* read-only, the rsh login attempt times out, after which Pine :) asks me for the account password. Then and only then can I access the Inbox. :) This is a pain. I'd like to have it automatically log-in. In your .pinerc set rsh-open-timeout=0 :) 3) Having done this, Pine now puts a sent-mail folder in /var/spool/mail, :) something I don't want. :) Redefine your default-fcc as default-fcc=sent-mail -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:43:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id AAA06122; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:43:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA11932; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:43:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id AAA23543; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:42:49 -0800 Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (root@jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA54532 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:38:11 -0800 Received: from dante31.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante31.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.213]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id AAA04198; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:38:10 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante31.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA31028; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:38:08 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 00:38:08 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine and IMAP In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Stephen Bosch X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Stephen Bosch wrote: > 2) If I change the inbox-path variable to {localhost}inbox so that the Pine > inbox is *not* read-only, the rsh login attempt times out, after which Pine > asks me for the account password. Then and only then can I access the Inbox. > This is a pain. I'd like to have it automatically log-in. Also check out http://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley/pine/faq/sysadmins.html#save_password if you're having trouble with extra password prompts - it's an updated version of the FAQ and has a new section on passwordless SSH authentication, but a lot of the links don't work, because they're supposed to point to www.washington.edu. > Finally, there is another issue -- how can I set the "user" so that my > reply-to address reflects my e-mail aliases instead of my login id? Check out Nancy's page on Changing Your From Header at http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/changing_from/ -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:46:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA12242; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:46:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA22413; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:46:32 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id IAA28398; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:43:45 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA46748 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:37:27 -0800 Received: from niwot.scd.ucar.edu (niwot.scd.ucar.edu [128.117.8.223]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA13001 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 08:37:27 -0800 Received: from sedona.scd.ucar.edu (sedona.scd.ucar.edu [128.117.8.183]) by niwot.scd.ucar.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA05381; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:37:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (era@localhost) by sedona.scd.ucar.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA27663; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:37:19 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 09:37:19 -0700 (MST) Reply-To: era@ucar.edu Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ed Arnold To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Content-type: header In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Eduardo Chappa L." X-Cc: Barry Landy , Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: sedona.scd.ucar.edu: era owned process doing -bs X-Sender: era@sedona.scd.ucar.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Perhaps I don't understand the problem, but it appears on the surface that it might not be necessary to write a script to do this. I assume the PC-PINE user has the equivalent of a unix .mime.types file, which is probably located somewhere down in ...ProgramFiles\Netscape\... . (It ought to be possible to figure out which file it is by using Windows Explorer to search for expected content, e.g. "audio/x-wav".) Assuming the user wants to *send* an existing file which is known to be in this text/enriched format, and assuming the file has a unique extension, (e.g. ".TXE") which is understood by whatever tool (a browser?) is being used on the receiving end to read it, can't the user just put a line in their .mime.types-equivalent file such as type=text/enriched exts="txe" and then just "pine -attach file.txe somebody@somewhere.com"? I tried the equivalent operations on a unix box (put the line in .mime.types, create a file named "tst.txe", then do an attach). The attachment in the message I sent myself ended up with an attachment header which says Content-Type: type=text/enriched; name="tst.txe" On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Eduardo Chappa L. wrote: > *** Barry Landy wrote in the pine-info list today: > > :) One of my users wishes to set the content-tpe header to text/enriched > :) Is there some other way to achieve this effect? > :) > Dear Barry, > > There is a way to accomplish this, I posted this message to this list a > few months ago and here I am reposting it again. Notice that this allows > you to change the content-type header to text/html etc... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > "Quoted text" > > Here's the way to do it. You have to follow several steps in order to make > this work. > > First you have to create a script, say we call it mime_types. Your file > mime_types should say something like this: > > #!/bin/sh > echo "Content-Type:text/html" > $2 > > [note: You may need to replace echo by "echo -n"] > > remember to give yourself execution permission for this file. > > Then you should go to your configuration file, and where it says > sending-filters it should say: > > sending-filters=/full/path/to/myme_types _TMPFILE_ _MIMETYPE_ > > This is enough to accomplish the task, but you should continue to the next > step anyway. > > After you do this take a look at the following configuration option: > > [ ] compose-send-offers-first-filter > > and read its help in order to understand what it does. I have it checked. > Somehow, I could not change Charset to iso-8859-1, which was something I > wanted, it always uses US-ASCII > > End of "Quoted text" > ------------------------ > > Eduardo > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine > > > > > > > -- > Eduardo > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:47:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id LAA09778; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:47:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA28323; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:47:13 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id LAA26224; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:44:45 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA29762 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:43:00 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id LAA18800 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:42:59 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.2]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA27703; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:42:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 11:42:50 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Content-type: header In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed Arnold X-Cc: Barry Landy , Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Ed Arnold (era@ucar.edu) wrote today: :) Perhaps I don't understand the problem, but it appears on the surface :) that it might not be necessary to write a script to do this. I assume the :) PC-PINE user has the equivalent of a unix .mime.types file, which is Yes this works if you want to *attach* a file, but what if you want to *compose* a message with content type header of text/enriched from scratch? Pine sends every mail in the text/plain format, unless you instruct it by means of a script and sending-filters not to do so or you alter the headers by some other mean outside pine. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/personal.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:57:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA20500; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:57:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA11533; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:57:01 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA16631; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:55:23 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA29726 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:54:23 -0800 Received: from mm02snlnto.sandia.gov (mm02snlnto.sandia.gov [132.175.109.21]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA20930 for ; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 12:54:22 -0800 Received: from 132.175.109.1 by mm02snlnto.sandia.gov with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.3); Fri, 03 Mar 00 13:54:17 -0700 Received: from sasg829.sandia.gov (sasg829.sandia.gov [134.253.226.190]) by sass165.sandia.gov (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA10314; Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:54:06 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 3 Mar 2000 13:54:08 -0700 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Daniel Sands" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: A Pine editing question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: "Frederic L. W. Meunier" X-Cc: "Pine Discussion Forum" X-Server-Uuid: 7edb479a-fd89-11d2-9a77-0090273cd58c X-WSS-ID: 14DEF9F3747417-01-01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Frederic L. W. Meunier wrote: > On 2000-03-01 (Yesterday) at 21:08 -0800, Scott Leibrand typed: > > | ^^ is Ctrl-Shift-6. You press those keys, then move your > | cursor, and then you can use ^K to cut the text. Does that > | work? > > No. If I press Ctrl+Shift+6 simultaneously, when I move the > cursor for the first time it stays in the same place. When I > move it again it works. But it's not marking the text. It's > very strange. I tried a lot. All keys are working on other > applications. I use Pine with XTerm 127. Earlier versions of Pine don't highlight the text. I don't think 3.96 did, or if it wanted to, my terminal (vt100) didn't have the necessary information to do that. 4.21 does on my xterm. The question, though, is whether it prints a message, [Mark Set] when you hit ^6. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:43:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA17796; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA13314; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:43:25 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA04974; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:42:09 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA52658 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:37:29 -0800 Received: from red.csi.cam.ac.uk (exim@red.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.70]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA09312 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 14:37:28 -0800 Received: from line59.slip.csx.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.99.159] helo=cam.ac.uk) by red.csi.cam.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12RNAm-0004HK-00; Sat, 04 Mar 2000 22:37:20 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 22:37:48 +0000 (GMT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Barry Landy To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Content-type: header In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Ed Arnold X-Cc: "Eduardo Chappa L." , Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: bl10@imap.hermes.cam.ac.uk X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN yes, that works fine, provided you are happy to put it all in an attachment. Pine can process the attachment just fine so no browser is needed. The "Mime-type" file need contain just text/enriched txe On Fri, 3 Mar 2000, Ed Arnold wrote: :>Perhaps I don't understand the problem, but it appears on the surface :>that it might not be necessary to write a script to do this. I assume the :>PC-PINE user has the equivalent of a unix .mime.types file, which is :>probably located somewhere down in ...ProgramFiles\Netscape\... . (It :>ought to be possible to figure out which file it is by using Windows :>Explorer to search for expected content, e.g. "audio/x-wav".) Assuming :>the user wants to *send* an existing file which is known to be in this :>text/enriched format, and assuming the file has a unique extension, (e.g. :>".TXE") which is understood by whatever tool (a browser?) is being used :>on the receiving end to read it, can't the user just put a line in their :> .mime.types-equivalent file such as :> :>type=text/enriched exts="txe" :> :>and then just "pine -attach file.txe somebody@somewhere.com"? :> :>I tried the equivalent operations on a unix box (put the line in .mime.types, :>create a file named "tst.txe", then do an attach). The attachment in the :>message I sent myself ended up with an attachment header which says :> :>Content-Type: type=text/enriched; name="tst.txe" :> :> :>On Thu, 2 Mar 2000, Eduardo Chappa L. wrote: :> :>> *** Barry Landy wrote in the pine-info list today: :>> :>> :) One of my users wishes to set the content-tpe header to text/enriched :>> :) Is there some other way to achieve this effect? :>> :) :>> Dear Barry, :>> :>> There is a way to accomplish this, I posted this message to this list a :>> few months ago and here I am reposting it again. Notice that this allows :>> you to change the content-type header to text/html etc... :>> :>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ :>> "Quoted text" :>> :>> Here's the way to do it. You have to follow several steps in order to make :>> this work. :>> :>> First you have to create a script, say we call it mime_types. Your file :>> mime_types should say something like this: :>> :>> #!/bin/sh :>> echo "Content-Type:text/html" > $2 :>> :>> [note: You may need to replace echo by "echo -n"] :>> :>> remember to give yourself execution permission for this file. :>> :>> Then you should go to your configuration file, and where it says :>> sending-filters it should say: :>> :>> sending-filters=/full/path/to/myme_types _TMPFILE_ _MIMETYPE_ :>> :>> This is enough to accomplish the task, but you should continue to the next :>> step anyway. :>> :>> After you do this take a look at the following configuration option: :>> :>> [ ] compose-send-offers-first-filter :>> :>> and read its help in order to understand what it does. I have it checked. :>> Somehow, I could not change Charset to iso-8859-1, which was something I :>> wanted, it always uses US-ASCII :>> :>> End of "Quoted text" :>> ------------------------ :>> :>> Eduardo :>> http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> :>> -- :>> Eduardo :>> http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ :> :> -- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 192, Gilbert Road Direct line: +44 1223 334713 Cambridge CB4 3PB Home: +44-1223-570417 Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:32:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA16483; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:32:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA01248; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:32:48 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA29108; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:31:39 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA45406 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:27:41 -0800 Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA16457 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 16:27:40 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA11834 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 17:27:05 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpdAAA8maWgx; Sat Mar 4 17:26:59 2000 Received: from localhost (fairall@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA17442 for ; Sat, 4 Mar 2000 17:27:33 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2000 19:27:33 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Leslie Fairall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: nomime MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: usr08.primenet.com: fairall owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN It seems like I am receiving my pine-info digest in mime format. How do I fix this? ***** ************************************************** "Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly. It's just very particular about who it makes friends with." mailto:fairall@primenet.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:09:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id AAA25667; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:09:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA24158; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:09:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id AAA12665; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:08:22 -0800 Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (root@jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA42616 for ; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:06:04 -0800 Received: from dante04.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante04.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.6]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id AAA19350; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:06:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA51432; Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:06:02 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 5 Mar 2000 00:06:02 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: nomime In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Leslie Fairall X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Just send a message to listproc@u.washington.edu with the following as the first line: set pine-info mail digest-nomime Here's what it says at http://www.washington.edu/computing/listproc/subscribers/advanced.html#commands about the digest formats: digest: do not send individual messages to the particular subscriber. Instead, store messages in a digest and send it when the digest exceeds a specified number of lines, or when a specified amount of time has passed since the last digest was sent. Digests are sent in MIME format by default. digest-nomime: same as digest except that you will receive the digest as a single block of text rather than in MIME format. This digest format may be necessary for those subscribers using older email clients. NOTE: The MIME format for digests is new as of March 23, 1999. Previous digests were sent as the equivalent of DIGEST-NOMIME. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Sat, 4 Mar 2000, Leslie Fairall wrote: > It seems like I am receiving my pine-info digest in mime format. How do I > fix this? > > > > ***** ************************************************** > "Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly. It's just very > particular about who it makes friends with." > mailto:fairall@primenet.com > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:10:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id FAA13291; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:10:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA21474; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:10:10 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id FAA07876; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:09:05 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA21874 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:05:32 -0800 Received: from cer31mx.cirso.fr (cer31mx.cirso.fr [194.98.67.53]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA13748 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:05:30 -0800 Received: from contact.cirso.fr (contact.cirso.fr [194.98.67.50]) by cer31mx.cirso.fr (8.9.3/) with SMTP id PAA31387 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:59:25 +0100 Received: by contact.cirso.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id C125689A.0047D289 ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:04:29 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 13:39:34 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Arnaud De Timmerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: lotus notes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: CER59@CER31@CIRSO X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hi all, does anyone know why emails sent by netscape3 on unix are well received on my Lotus Notes client (NT4), while emails sent by pine from the same machine aren't ? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:13:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id FAA00029; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA06725; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:13:04 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id FAA00447; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:11:45 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA47098 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:09:06 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA01409 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 05:09:05 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by kens.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA75717; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 08:09:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kwoods@kens.com) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 08:09:09 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: lotus notes In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Arnaud De Timmerman X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 6 Mar 2000, Arnaud De Timmerman wrote: > hi all, > does anyone know why emails sent by netscape3 on unix are well > received on my Lotus Notes client (NT4), while emails sent by pine > from the same machine aren't ? You're joking, right? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 06:39:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA21774; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 06:39:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA08133; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 06:39:31 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA24643; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 06:38:28 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA54720 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 06:36:49 -0800 Received: from cer31mx.cirso.fr (cer31mx.cirso.fr [194.98.67.53]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA21053 for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 06:36:46 -0800 Received: from contact.cirso.fr (contact.cirso.fr [194.98.67.50]) by cer31mx.cirso.fr (8.9.3/) with SMTP id RAA32160 ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:30:09 +0100 Received: by contact.cirso.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id C125689A.00502014 ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 15:35:10 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 14:52:37 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Arnaud De Timmerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9f._:_Re:_lotus_notes?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-To: Ken Woods X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Lotus-FromDomain: CER59@CER31@CIRSO X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >You're joking, right? We use unix on server, some of our customers and us are using lotus notes with a SMTP gateway (it's not a choice). We have to send text-only (no mime/smime contents at first...) emails to those platforms. But in an automated manner so we have to deal with console based agent, this is where pine comes handy. The error is that we never receive mail (but our customers who don't use the infamous Lotus get the mail right). thanks again, From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 02:37:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id CAA10913; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 02:37:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA03236; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 02:37:48 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id CAA17037; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 02:36:51 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA35534 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 02:35:23 -0800 Received: from cer31mx.cirso.fr (cer31mx.cirso.fr [194.98.67.53]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id CAA12621 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 02:35:21 -0800 Received: from contact.cirso.fr (contact.cirso.fr [194.98.67.50]) by cer31mx.cirso.fr (8.9.3/) with SMTP id NAA03627 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 13:29:13 +0100 Received: by contact.cirso.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id C125689B.003A110A ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:34:14 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 11:23:28 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Arnaud De Timmerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: return-path Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: CER59@CER31@CIRSO X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hi all, Is there a way changing the field "return-path" at the very beginning of an email ? The one I add in the customized-headers doesn't replace this one. It has been said in the mailing list that the MTA dealed with this field, but isn't pine a MTA ? Sorry for my english and possible misunderstandings. ttfn, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 05:31:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id FAA32027; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 05:31:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA06201; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 05:31:45 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id FAA11093; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 05:30:49 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA22478 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 05:29:25 -0800 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA14814 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 05:29:05 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (IDENT:root@[203.197.56.157]) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA32125 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:58:50 +0530 (IST) Received: from localhost (IDENT:satyap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA00823 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:57:13 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 18:57:13 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: return-path In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 7, 2000 at 11:23, Arnaud De Timmerman wrote: > Is there a way changing the field "return-path" at the very beginning > of an email ? The one I add in the customized-headers doesn't replace > this one. It has been said in the mailing list that the MTA dealed > with this field, but isn't pine a MTA ? Pine is a Mail User Agent, or MUA. MTA is M Transfer Agent, like sendmail. In fact, sendmail (if that is your MTA; qmail is another popular MTA) does put a Return-path line. This is not a Pine issue. You might want to look at sendmail masquerading rules. (Or you might not) -- Satya. http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ Mumbai bus guide at http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ ! FREE! Email reminder service at http://satyaonline.cjb.net/rem.html <<< Hi! I'm a tagline virus! Steal me & join in the fun! >>> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:46:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA16150; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:46:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA23394; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:46:35 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA20846; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:44:17 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA20938 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:43:13 -0800 Received: from cer31mx.cirso.fr (cer31mx.cirso.fr [194.98.67.53]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA09220 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 06:43:11 -0800 Received: from contact.cirso.fr (contact.cirso.fr [194.98.67.50]) by cer31mx.cirso.fr (8.9.3/) with SMTP id RAA05384 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 17:37:09 +0100 Received: by contact.cirso.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id C125689B.0050C039 ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:42:00 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 15:13:17 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Arnaud De Timmerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9f._:_Re:_return-path?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: CER59@CER31@CIRSO X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >put a Return-path line. This is not a Pine issue. You might want to look >at sendmail masquerading rules. (Or you might not) Netscape Mail Server is our MTA. I'm trying to find why emails sent by Netscape are well received on my lotus notes client (with a smtp gateway) while emails sent by pine aren't. Anyone familiar with Netscape Mail Server ? thanks, From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:06:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA04663; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:06:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA26887; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:06:28 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA03979; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:05:03 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA42714 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:03:56 -0800 Received: from cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in [144.16.73.78]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA17248 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:03:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (mohit@localhost) by cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA01585 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:38:08 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 22:38:08 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Mohit Agarwal To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: e-mail message source MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello everybody: How do I obtain the e-mail source of the incoming mails in pine? For example, one can always send mails to anyone using Netscape Mail or port 25 of any system and can write any e-mail address, so is there a way to trace out from which server the mail actually was delivered from? Regards, Mohit ----------------------------------------------------------------------- MOHIT AGARWAL CFD CENTER, DEPTT. OF AEROSPACE ENGG., INDIAN INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE, BANGALORE - 560 012 INDIA. Phone: +91-80-360 0904 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:19:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA08058; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:19:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA11340; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:19:40 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA28234; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:18:14 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA32606 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:16:44 -0800 Received: from tao.agoron.com (root@tao.agoron.com [206.181.233.66]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA13015 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:16:39 -0800 Received: from tao.agoron.com (andy.agoron.com [206.181.233.74]) by tao.agoron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03896; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 12:15:03 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <38C53918.3ADB93E@tao.agoron.com> Date: Tue, 07 Mar 2000 12:15:04 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Andy Malato To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: e-mail message source References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Mohit Agarwal X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Accept-Language: en,pdf X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN yes, go into the pine config screen and scroll down to find the option -- enable full header cmd. Once that is enabled, when you are viewing your message, you can simply type the "h" key and it will display all the headers that were inserted from the origin of the message. You normally read email headers from bottom to top. hope that helps ---Andy Mohit Agarwal wrote: > Hello everybody: > > How do I obtain the e-mail source of the incoming mails in pine? For > example, one can always send mails to anyone using Netscape Mail or port > 25 of any system and can write any e-mail address, so is there a way to > trace out from which server the mail actually was delivered from? > > Regards, > Mohit > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > MOHIT AGARWAL > CFD CENTER, > DEPTT. OF AEROSPACE ENGG., > INDIAN INSTITUTE OF SCIENCE, > BANGALORE - 560 012 > INDIA. > Phone: +91-80-360 0904 > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:53:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA18643; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:53:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA28374; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:52:58 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA20859; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:51:42 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA38608 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:49:52 -0800 Received: from bom2.vsnl.net.in (bom2.vsnl.net.in [202.54.1.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA20244 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 09:49:39 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (IDENT:root@[203.197.59.92]) by bom2.vsnl.net.in (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA10269 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:19:30 +0530 (IST) Received: from localhost (IDENT:satyap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA01732 for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:18:13 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2000 23:18:13 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: e-mail message source In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 7, 2000 at 22:38, Mohit Agarwal wrote: > How do I obtain the e-mail source of the incoming mails in pine? For > example, one can always send mails to anyone using Netscape Mail or port > 25 of any system and can write any e-mail address, so is there a way to > trace out from which server the mail actually was delivered from? Trace the Received: headers. http://spamcop.net/ is a good site for this (make sure you don't actually report the email as spam). Also check the X-* headers, sometimes they contain UI. In Pine, to turn on Full Headers, do this: 1. Set enable-full-header-cmd 2. Go to the folder index containing the message you want to trace. 3. Hit h do enable full headers. 4. View message. 5. Toggle full and normal headers by hitting h anytime in folder index or view message screens. HTH. -- Satya. http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ Mumbai bus guide at http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ ! FREE! Email reminder service at http://satyaonline.cjb.net/rem.html <<< Hi! I'm a tagline virus! Steal me & join in the fun! >>> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:41:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA08605; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:41:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA23638; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:41:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA10141; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:40:23 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA39714 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:37:59 -0800 Received: from cer31mx.cirso.fr (cer31mx.cirso.fr [194.98.67.53]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA19880 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 06:37:57 -0800 Received: from contact.cirso.fr (contact.cirso.fr [194.98.67.50]) by cer31mx.cirso.fr (8.9.3/) with SMTP id RAA11324 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 17:31:53 +0100 Received: by contact.cirso.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id C125689C.0050471B ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:36:50 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 15:10:37 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Arnaud De Timmerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: message-id Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: CER59@CER31@CIRSO X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hi all, can I change the place where the field "Message-ID" comes, in the headers ? I'd like to put it before "Date:". thanks -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:35:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id UAA18534; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA28794; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:35:22 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id UAA29963; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:33:43 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA28820 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:32:34 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA01667 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:32:33 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA27864; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:32:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 20:32:32 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: suggestions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Pine developers team X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, There is an inconsistent use of the command ^C in the program. I have the idea that every time I want to cancel any command I have to press ^C. Some menus can be canceled like that, some others can not. For example the following menu can not: View selected URL "http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/" ? = =20 Y [Yes] U editURL = =20 N No A editApp = =20 Actually this menu does not contain a help key either. My suggestion is to make ^C available in all menus. I know how to read menus, is just that I don't want to read which ones can be cancelled by pressing "N" and/or "^C". The same can be said about the "?" and "^G" keys. The other annoying keybinding that I find is that when reading help "E" and "P" have meanings which are not really intuitive for me. "E" is used to exit the help and "P" is used for "previous help". I would use "E" to go back to the previous help (like "P"), except that in the first help "E" would mean "take me out of the help screen" and would use "^C" to get out of the help directly at any screen help. The reason why I find this annoying is because I have pressed many times "E" when I only meant to push the "P" key (because I na=EFvely understood "E" as "P"). Another solution which is fine with me is to have "P" and "E" the same meaning in the first help screen. I hope someday pine has some kind of keybinding support. It is sometimes frustrating not to be able to do so. --=20 Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:10:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA11934; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:10:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA29381; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:10:06 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA25815; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:07:02 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA56928 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:06:08 -0800 Received: from tao.agoron.com (root@tao.agoron.com [206.181.233.66]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA04853 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:06:00 -0800 Received: from tao.agoron.com (dosman.agoron.com [207.86.97.180]) by tao.agoron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA07152; Thu, 9 Mar 2000 00:03:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <38C73190.EE5D524F@tao.agoron.com> Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2000 00:07:28 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Andy Malato To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: suggestions References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-To: "Eduardo Chappa L." X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I would have to agree here with that. especially with the ^C key. ---Andy "Eduardo Chappa L." wrote: > > Hello, > > There is an inconsistent use of the command ^C in the program. I have the > idea that every time I want to cancel any command I have to press ^C. Some > menus can be canceled like that, some others can not. For example the > following menu can not: > > View selected URL "http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/" ? > Y [Yes] U editURL > N No A editApp > > Actually this menu does not contain a help key either. My suggestion is to > make ^C available in all menus. I know how to read menus, is just that I > don't want to read which ones can be cancelled by pressing "N" and/or > "^C". > > The same can be said about the "?" and "^G" keys. > > The other annoying keybinding that I find is that when reading help "E" > and "P" have meanings which are not really intuitive for me. "E" is used > to exit the help and "P" is used for "previous help". I would use "E" to > go back to the previous help (like "P"), except that in the first help "E" > would mean "take me out of the help screen" and would use "^C" to get out > of the help directly at any screen help. The reason why I find this > annoying is because I have pressed many times "E" when I only meant to > push the "P" key (because I naïvely understood "E" as "P"). Another > solution which is fine with me is to have "P" and "E" the same meaning in > the first help screen. > > I hope someday pine has some kind of keybinding support. It is sometimes > frustrating not to be able to do so. > > -- > Eduardo > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:25:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA25374; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:25:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA29600; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:25:47 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA15866; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:23:07 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA10282 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:22:24 -0800 Received: from mail.neta.com (nfs.neta.com [206.124.164.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA21687 for ; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 21:22:23 -0800 Received: (qmail 20968 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2000 05:21:55 -0000 Received: from functionalprogramming.cql.com (HELO functionalprogramming.com) (seth@208.194.82.228) by nfs.neta.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2000 05:21:55 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 22:18:08 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Seth Kurtzberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: suggestions In-Reply-To: <38C73190.EE5D524F@tao.agoron.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-To: Andy Malato X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: seth@functionalprogramming.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Consistency is always good. Configurable Key mappings would be great. =20 It would be difficult to implement key mappings, because you would have to use rather different methods in PC-Pine and UNIX Pine. Personally, I never use Windows unless there is absolutely no alternative, so I'd be happy with configurable key mappings for UNIX that are not supported for PC-Pine. Others would no doubt disagree. Seth Kurtzberg Machine Independent Software Cell (602) 478-5511 Fax: (480) 614-8909 email: seth@cql.com pager: 888-605-9296 or email 6059296@skytel.com On Thu, 9 Mar 2000, Andy Malato wrote: > I would have to agree here with that. >=20 > especially with the ^C key. >=20 > =09---Andy >=20 >=20 >=20 > "Eduardo Chappa L." wrote: > >=20 > > Hello, > >=20 > > There is an inconsistent use of the command ^C in the program. I have t= he > > idea that every time I want to cancel any command I have to press ^C. S= ome > > menus can be canceled like that, some others can not. For example the > > following menu can not: > >=20 > > View selected URL "http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/" ? > > Y [Yes] U editURL > > N No A editApp > >=20 > > Actually this menu does not contain a help key either. My suggestion is= to > > make ^C available in all menus. I know how to read menus, is just that = I > > don't want to read which ones can be cancelled by pressing "N" and/or > > "^C". > >=20 > > The same can be said about the "?" and "^G" keys. > >=20 > > The other annoying keybinding that I find is that when reading help "E" > > and "P" have meanings which are not really intuitive for me. "E" is use= d > > to exit the help and "P" is used for "previous help". I would use "E" t= o > > go back to the previous help (like "P"), except that in the first help = "E" > > would mean "take me out of the help screen" and would use "^C" to get o= ut > > of the help directly at any screen help. The reason why I find this > > annoying is because I have pressed many times "E" when I only meant to > > push the "P" key (because I na=EFvely understood "E" as "P"). Another > > solution which is fine with me is to have "P" and "E" the same meaning = in > > the first help screen. > >=20 > > I hope someday pine has some kind of keybinding support. It is someti= mes > > frustrating not to be able to do so. > >=20 > > -- > > Eduardo > > http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ >=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:30:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id AAA08827; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:30:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA15311; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:30:02 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id AAA26352; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:28:11 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA31402 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:25:16 -0800 Received: from cer31mx.cirso.fr (cer31mx.cirso.fr [194.98.67.53]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA10602 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 00:25:15 -0800 Received: from contact.cirso.fr (contact.cirso.fr [194.98.67.50]) by cer31mx.cirso.fr (8.9.3/) with SMTP id LAA21122 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 11:19:21 +0100 Received: by contact.cirso.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id C125689E.002E22D8 ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:23:55 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 09:06:32 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Arnaud De Timmerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: only on command-line Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: CER59@CER31@CIRSO X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN hi all, Is there a way, with pine, to send an e-mail without using the composer at all ? thanks, -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:36:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA07984; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA16315; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:36:28 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA12736; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:34:09 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA49626 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:31:55 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA17270 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:31:55 -0800 Received: from goedel3.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel3.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.12]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA19213; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:31:51 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:31:51 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: only on command-line In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Arnaud De Timmerman X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Arnaud De Timmerman wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Is there a way, with pine, to send an e-mail without using the :) composer at all ? :) It can be done if you apply a patch that I wrote in order to do so. Pick it up from the address below. All comments, suggestions, bug reports, flames, etc are welcome. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:42:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA21117; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:42:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA32045; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:42:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA24585; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:41:46 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA22072 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:40:18 -0800 Received: from cer31mx.cirso.fr (cer31mx.cirso.fr [194.98.67.53]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA09652 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 01:40:16 -0800 Received: from contact.cirso.fr (contact.cirso.fr [194.98.67.50]) by cer31mx.cirso.fr (8.9.3/) with SMTP id MAA22197 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 12:34:23 +0100 Received: by contact.cirso.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id C125689E.00350449 ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:39:05 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 10:13:54 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Arnaud De Timmerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: other user Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: CER59@CER31@CIRSO X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks for your answer Srikanth. Is it possible to send an email being totally identified as another account on the same machine ? To be identified in the headers as "lambda" even if the email is sent from "gamma", for instance. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:11:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA19833; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:11:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA04207; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:11:48 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA16255; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:06:11 -0800 Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (root@jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA52532 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:05:09 -0800 Received: from dante30.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante30.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.212]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id GAA32174; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:05:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante30.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA27348; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:05:08 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:05:07 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: other user In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Arnaud De Timmerman X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You can change the From: line to reflect that, but you can't change the X-Sender. Which is good, because the whole point of the X-Sender is to give a reliable indicator of which account the message was sent from, regardless of what you do to the From line. Check out Nancy's page on Changing Your From Header at http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/changing_from/ -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Arnaud De Timmerman wrote: > > > Thanks for your answer Srikanth. > > > Is it possible to send an email being totally identified as another account on > the same machine ? To be identified in the headers as "lambda" even if the email > is sent from "gamma", for instance. > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:33:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA28447; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:33:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA21278; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:33:18 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA16863; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:32:04 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA22218 for ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:30:58 -0800 Received: from cer31mx.cirso.fr (cer31mx.cirso.fr [194.98.67.53]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA02159; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 06:30:56 -0800 Received: from contact.cirso.fr (contact.cirso.fr [194.98.67.50]) by cer31mx.cirso.fr (8.9.3/) with SMTP id RAA25079 ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 17:25:04 +0100 Received: by contact.cirso.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id C125689E.004FA288 ; Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:29:49 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2000 15:29:08 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Arnaud De Timmerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9f._:_Re:_other_user?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-To: Scott Leibrand X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Lotus-FromDomain: CER59@CER31@CIRSO X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >You can change the From: line to reflect that, but you can't change the >X-Sender. Which is good, because the whole point of the X-Sender is to >give a reliable indicator of which account the message was sent from, >regardless of what you do to the From line. And is it also possible changing what's written in Return-Path and Received fields ? May I have to give the sticky bit to pine program, of change some access permissions ? thanks again, From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:26:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA24603; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:26:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA08830; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:26:13 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA11162; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:25:19 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA44294 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:23:36 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA09885 for ; Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:23:36 -0800 Received: (qmail 29710 invoked by uid 1828); 11 Mar 2000 23:23:35 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2000 15:23:35 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mattack@area.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PINE-INFO digest 732 (fwd) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >And is it also possible changing what's written in Return-Path and Received >fields ? May I have to give the sticky bit to pine program, of change some >access permissions ? >thanks again, Why would you want to change any of this unless you're spamming? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:04:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id TAA20753; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:04:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA17904; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:04:53 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA20509; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 18:59:41 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA21588 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 18:57:33 -0800 Received: from mx2.itb.ac.id (mx2.itb.ac.id [202.249.47.37]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA01870 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 18:57:29 -0800 Received: (qmail 10488 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Mar 2000 02:56:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cyberlib.itb.ac.id) (167.205.20.28) by mx2.itb.ac.id with SMTP; 13 Mar 2000 02:56:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 11089 invoked by uid 1721); 13 Mar 2000 02:56:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Mar 2000 02:56:58 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:56:57 +0700 (JAVT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Daxmu Yoagat To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: How To Change 'From'? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've try to change the header 'from' in the composer header. But it said " not allowed to change 'From' " when I try to compose a mail. I want to change 'From' because I have another email and I want to send e-mail fro my box here as if I'm sending from another email I have. Please help me. **************************** Gaudeamus igitur, Iuvenes dum sumus (Let us be happy while we are young) ***************************** -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:29:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id TAA31728; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:29:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA00415; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:29:15 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id TAA21253; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:26:26 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA29086 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:25:39 -0800 Received: from mx2.itb.ac.id (mx2.itb.ac.id [202.249.47.37] (may be forged)) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id TAA05396 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:25:12 -0800 Received: (qmail 13552 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Mar 2000 03:20:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cyberlib.itb.ac.id) (167.205.20.28) by mx2.itb.ac.id with SMTP; 13 Mar 2000 03:20:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 23875 invoked by uid 1721); 13 Mar 2000 03:20:58 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Mar 2000 03:20:58 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:20:58 +0700 (JAVT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Daxmu Yoagat To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: What do you mean? In-Reply-To: <833BFC64AC56D21190F00008C71E3954027D1C4E@SAGEMSG0002.sagemsmrd01.sa.gov.au> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Talbot-Wilson, Michael (FORENSIC)" X-Cc: pine-info@u.washington.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN 'Not allowed to change header "From"' I always get that if I tried to change 'From' I go to the Setup and configuration menu. After that, I try to change default-composer-header and custumized-header, but still I can't change it. Please help me.. **************************** Gaudeamus igitur, Iuvenes dum sumus (Let us be happy while we are young) ***************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:33:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id TAA05730; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:33:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA18315; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:33:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id TAA23097; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:30:54 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA48106 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:29:11 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA05384 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:29:10 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by kens.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03153; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 22:28:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kwoods@kens.com) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 22:28:44 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How To Change 'From'? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Daxmu Yoagat X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Roles. m s r r On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Daxmu Yoagat wrote: > I've try to change the header 'from' in the composer header. > But it said " not allowed to change 'From' " when I try to compose > a mail. > I want to change 'From' because I have another email and I want to > send e-mail fro my box here as if I'm sending from another email I > have. > Please help me. > > **************************** > Gaudeamus igitur, > Iuvenes dum sumus > (Let us be happy > while we are young) > ***************************** > > > > > -- Ken Woods kwoods@kens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:35:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id TAA10286; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:35:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA18344; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:35:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id TAA21835; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:34:54 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA52298 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:34:09 -0800 Received: from mx2.itb.ac.id (mx2.itb.ac.id [202.249.47.37] (may be forged)) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id TAA28474 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:34:06 -0800 Received: (qmail 14775 invoked by uid 1003); 13 Mar 2000 03:30:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cyberlib.itb.ac.id) (167.205.20.28) by mx2.itb.ac.id with SMTP; 13 Mar 2000 03:30:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 29097 invoked by uid 1721); 13 Mar 2000 03:31:17 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Mar 2000 03:31:17 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:31:17 +0700 (JAVT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Daxmu Yoagat To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How To Change 'From'? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN What is it mena ' m s s r '? > Roles. > > m s r r From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:47:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id TAA01668; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:47:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA18496; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:47:53 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id TAA08468; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:43:49 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA32724 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:43:13 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA06935 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 19:43:11 -0800 Received: from kens.com (kens.com [129.250.30.40]) by kens.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03226; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 22:38:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kwoods@kens.com) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 22:38:31 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Ken Woods To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How To Change 'From'? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Daxmu Yoagat X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pressing those keys won't do anything for you, so first off, upgrade to a recent version of pine. Then set up roles to do what you're asking. Then quit bitching. On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Daxmu Yoagat wrote: > > What is it mena ' m s s r '? > > Roles. > > > > m s r r > > > -- Ken Woods kwoods@kens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:34:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA11703; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:34:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA20097; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:34:56 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA11802; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:33:47 -0800 Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA18060 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:33:01 -0800 Received: from dante42.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante42.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.202]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id VAA22734; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:33:00 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante42.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA30626; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:33:00 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2000 21:33:00 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: How To Change 'From'? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Daxmu Yoagat X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Check out Nancy's page on Changing Your From Header at http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/changing_from/ -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Daxmu Yoagat wrote: > I've try to change the header 'from' in the composer header. > But it said " not allowed to change 'From' " when I try to compose > a mail. > I want to change 'From' because I have another email and I want to > send e-mail fro my box here as if I'm sending from another email I > have. > Please help me. > > **************************** > Gaudeamus igitur, > Iuvenes dum sumus > (Let us be happy > while we are young) > ***************************** > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:04:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id XAA10972; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:04:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA21446; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:04:54 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id XAA14720; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:03:59 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA52622 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:02:19 -0800 Received: from cer31mx.cirso.fr (cer31mx.cirso.fr [194.98.67.53]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA12491 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 2000 23:02:18 -0800 Received: from contact.cirso.fr (contact.cirso.fr [194.98.67.50]) by cer31mx.cirso.fr (8.9.3/) with SMTP id JAA29892 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:56:33 +0100 Received: by contact.cirso.fr(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) id C12568A1.00268C72 ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:01:03 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:00:27 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Arnaud De Timmerman" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?R=E9f:_Re:_R=E9f._:_Re:_other_user?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline X-Lotus-FromDomain: CER59@CER31@CIRSO X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN >I don't think so, with Pine at least. Most of this stuff is added after >Pine transfers the mail to the MTA. But I don't think you'd want to, >really, unless you're trying to send spam or something. Received lines >have to be accurate to be of any use, and modifying them is a Bad Thing >that only spammers and other unscrupulous characters do. Because we don't want our customers know what user is really used to send the email, for security reasons. It's possible making a program changing the uid before calling pine, so another user is used in the headers. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 01:58:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA01620; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 01:58:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA24024; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 01:58:36 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA03367; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 01:57:32 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA49542 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 01:56:39 -0800 Received: from smtp1.nikoma.de (smtp1.nikoma.de [212.122.128.19]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA30895 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 01:56:37 -0800 Received: from thor.germania.lan (dialin214-8.tnt02.frankfurt.nikoma.de [213.54.8.214]) by smtp1.nikoma.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA57632 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 10:56:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from claus@atzenbeck.de) Received: from localhost (claus@localhost) by thor.germania.lan (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01343 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:57:44 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 07:57:44 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Claus Atzenbeck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: GUI MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: thor.germania.lan: claus owned process doing -bs X-Sender: claus@thor.germania.lan X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've seen that there is a GUI for pine (called xpine!?), but it is still in a early stage. Is there any stable graphical user interface for pine under X? Regards, Claus. -- Atzenbeck. Data structures & design http://www.atzenbeck.de Please, Mother! I'd rather do it myself! -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 04:41:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id EAA03964; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 04:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA09091; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 04:41:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id EAA02484; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 04:40:28 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA03766 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 04:39:22 -0800 Received: from bom7.vsnl.net.in (bom7.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.14]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id EAA05500 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 04:39:20 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (IDENT:root@[203.197.57.150]) by bom7.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA18425; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:11:20 +0530 (IST) Received: from localhost (IDENT:satyap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA01545; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:02:36 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:02:36 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: GUI In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Claus Atzenbeck X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 13, 2000 at 07:57, Claus Atzenbeck wrote: > I've seen that there is a GUI for pine (called xpine!?), but it is > still in a early stage. Is there any stable graphical user interface > for pine under X? Pine *is* a user interface. Why would there be a user interface for a user interface? -- Satya. http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ Mumbai bus guide at http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ ! FREE! Email reminder service at http://satyaonline.cjb.net/rem.html <<< Hi! I'm a tagline virus! Steal me & join in the fun! >>> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 05:05:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id FAA15684; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 05:05:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA09521; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 05:05:51 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id FAA02754; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 05:04:39 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA26062 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 05:04:05 -0800 Received: from smtp.gospelcom.net (smtp.gospelcom.net [204.253.132.6]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id FAA06588 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 05:04:05 -0800 Received: (qmail 29807 invoked from network); 13 Mar 2000 13:04:03 -0000 Received: from jabbok.gospelcom.net (HELO tarsus.gf.gospelcom.net) (204.253.132.4) by smtp.gospelcom.net with SMTP; 13 Mar 2000 13:04:03 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:04:03 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Topher To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: GUI In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Satya X-Sender: topher@tarsus.gf.gospelcom.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > On Mar 13, 2000 at 07:57, Claus Atzenbeck wrote: > > > I've seen that there is a GUI for pine (called xpine!?), but it is > > still in a early stage. Is there any stable graphical user interface > > for pine under X? > > Pine *is* a user interface. Why would there be a user interface for a user > interface? That's an excellent point, and I dearly love it. However, there are some things that it doesn't do (like macros), so I made something to do it for me. I use Eterm as my terminal program, and I made a Pine Theme for it. All it *really* is is a menu at the top that allows me to string together a bunch of commands. For example, here where I work we've got an address we can send spam to, and it gets all ripped apart and the appropriate people notified. But headers have to be on. So I have to turn full headers on, forward the message, then turn headers off, and delete it. I made a menu item that does all that for me in about a half second. Very handy. I've got it set so that I can send a message from a particular role. Lots of people wouldn't want to use it, they prefer to type it all out, but it cn be handy for things you do so rarely that you don't remember the keystrokes. Topher Tech Support topher@gospelcom.net Gospel Communications Network From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:20:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA12588; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:20:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA31033; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:20:07 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id IAA09394; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:18:51 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA44504 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:14:40 -0800 Received: from chia.umiacs.umd.edu (chia.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.111]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA29007 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 08:14:39 -0800 Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by chia.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA03961 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:14:38 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 11:14:37 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: ADAM Sulmicki To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: two pine questions. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: chia.umiacs.umd.edu: adam owned process doing -bs X-Sender: adam@chia.umiacs.umd.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello, I have two questions. 1) I can use alt-addresses to make emails forwarded from my other accounts appear with a "+" in index. However, this work only if I'm at the To: field and it does not work for me if I'm CC:ed instead. Any easy way to fix it? 2) Other mailers do Fcc in the way of simply cc'ing the message to myself. This come handy if I want to save my messages to another account on different system. Is there a way to do this in pine? I tried to put email address in fcc: but it is just saves it to a file which name is my email addr (after all it is FILE-CC). Is there a way to have cc everyemail I send and everymail I reply, to some specific account elsewhere? -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:23:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA32406; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:23:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA15208; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:23:36 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA11763; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:13:46 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA05588 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:12:18 -0800 Received: from bom7.vsnl.net.in (bom7.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.14]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA07266 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:12:17 -0800 Received: from hal9k.myip.org (IDENT:root@[203.197.57.97]) by bom7.vsnl.net.in (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA21762 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:44:14 +0530 (IST) Received: from localhost (IDENT:satyap@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hal9k.myip.org (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA03562 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:44:29 +0530 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 22:44:28 +0530 (IST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Satya To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: two pine questions. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: satyap@hal9k.myip.org X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mar 13, 2000 at 11:14, ADAM Sulmicki wrote: > I can use alt-addresses to make emails forwarded from my other > accounts appear with a "+" in index. However, this work only if > I'm at the To: field and it does not work for me if I'm CC:ed > instead. Any easy way to fix it? Well, the point of the + is to indicate that you are the primary recipient, rather than haivng been Cc'd. > I tried to put email address in fcc: but it is just saves it to > a file which name is my email addr (after all it is FILE-CC). You just answered yourself, it is _file_-cc :) > Is there a way to have cc everyemail I send and everymail I > reply, to some specific account elsewhere? Try custom headers: Cc: otheraddress@otherhost.example.com -- Satya. http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ Mumbai bus guide at http://satyaonline.cjb.net/ ! FREE! Email reminder service at http://satyaonline.cjb.net/rem.html <<< Hi! I'm a tagline virus! Steal me & join in the fun! >>> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:25:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA14234; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:25:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA00741; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:25:41 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA28537; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:23:36 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA18556 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:22:02 -0800 Received: from smtp1.nikoma.de (smtp1.nikoma.de [212.122.128.19]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA09233 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:22:01 -0800 Received: from thor.germania.lan (dialin136-14.tnt03.frankfurt.nikoma.de [213.54.14.136]) by smtp1.nikoma.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA97208 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:21:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from claus@atzenbeck.de) Received: from localhost (claus@localhost) by thor.germania.lan (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01937 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:24:50 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 16:24:50 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Claus Atzenbeck To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: GUI In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: thor.germania.lan: claus owned process doing -bs X-Sender: claus@thor.germania.lan X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Satya wrote: > On Mar 13, 2000 at 07:57, Claus Atzenbeck wrote: > > > I've seen that there is a GUI for pine (called xpine!?), but it is > > still in a early stage. Is there any stable graphical user interface > > for pine under X? > > Pine *is* a user interface. Why would there be a user interface for a user > interface? GUI = G = GRAPHICAL U = User I = Interface Meaning: Using mouse, drag & drop, several windows, and stuff... Regards, Claus. -- Atzenbeck. Data structures & design http://www.atzenbeck.de Men love to wonder, and that is the seed of science. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:33:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA19610; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA15480; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:33:34 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA29189; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:30:48 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA29824 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:26:23 -0800 Received: from chia.umiacs.umd.edu (chia.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.111]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA29650 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:26:23 -0800 Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by chia.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA04223; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:26:04 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:26:03 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: ADAM Sulmicki To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: two pine questions. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Satya X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: chia.umiacs.umd.edu: adam owned process doing -bs X-Sender: adam@chia.umiacs.umd.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks for all people who have responded so far. > > I can use alt-addresses to make emails forwarded from my other > > accounts appear with a "+" in index. However, this work only if > > I'm at the To: field and it does not work for me if I'm CC:ed > > instead. Any easy way to fix it? > > Well, the point of the + is to indicate that you are the primary > recipient, rather than haivng been Cc'd. Yeah, but nowdays we got a lot of email, and people, like it or not, don't pay that much attention where you are in header when they reply. IMHO, as long as I'm in explictly mentioned in header, no matter if it is to: or cc:, I'm one of the "primary" recipient. I belive nowdays email is addressed to you if you are anywhere in header, if you are not explictly mentioned, then it is not to you. (although this is not always true as some dumb mailing list sets Reply-To: to the mailining list and remove you from header altoghether :-( ) > > Is there a way to have cc everyemail I send and everymail I > > reply, to some specific account elsewhere? > > Try custom headers: Cc: otheraddress@otherhost.example.com What I was woried here about is that will it work correctly if I reply email and there are other people in cc already? will the resulting cc a superset of cc from original email and my predefined cc? I guess the only answer is to actually try this out. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:36:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA18327; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:36:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA15560; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:36:37 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA13372; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:34:34 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA38624 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:30:44 -0800 Received: from chia.umiacs.umd.edu (chia.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.111]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA07339 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 09:30:44 -0800 Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by chia.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id MAA04241; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:30:32 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 12:30:31 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: ADAM Sulmicki To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: two pine questions. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Satya X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: chia.umiacs.umd.edu: adam owned process doing -bs X-Sender: adam@chia.umiacs.umd.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > > > Is there a way to have cc everyemail I send and everymail I > > > reply, to some specific account elsewhere? > > > > Try custom headers: Cc: otheraddress@otherhost.example.com > > What I was woried here about is that will it work correctly if I reply > email and there are other people in cc already? will the resulting > cc a superset of cc from original email and my predefined cc? > > I guess the only answer is to actually try this out. Well, I just tried it out and unfrotunatelly it does not work as I would expect it to. If I compose message, the "forward cc" is shown in cc field. However, if I hit reply button, the "forward cc" not shown there :-( From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:27:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA02226; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:27:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA31249; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:27:07 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA15070; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:25:49 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA39280 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:23:32 -0800 Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.50]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA12706 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:23:31 -0800 Received: from 145.reno-03-04rs16rt.nv.dial-access.att.net ([12.72.145.145]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with ESMTP id <20000314022327.WIBN10870.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@145.reno-03-04rs16rt.nv.dial-access.att.net>; Tue, 14 Mar 2000 02:23:27 +0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:28:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: James To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: GUI In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Claus Atzenbeck X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: jamesqf@postoffice.att.net X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Claus Atzenbeck wrote: > On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Satya wrote: > > > On Mar 13, 2000 at 07:57, Claus Atzenbeck wrote: > > > > > I've seen that there is a GUI for pine (called xpine!?), but it is > > > still in a early stage. Is there any stable graphical user interface > > > for pine under X? > > > > Pine *is* a user interface. Why would there be a user interface for a user > > interface? > > GUI = > G = GRAPHICAL > U = User > I = Interface > > Meaning: Using mouse, drag & drop, several windows, and stuff... For me, and I imagine for a great many Pine (& PC-Pine) users, not having to futz around with a GUI is _the_ major attraction. James From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:53:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA19761; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:53:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA31700; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:53:02 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA12724; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:51:42 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA54048 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:49:58 -0800 Received: from mail.neta.com (nfs.neta.com [206.124.164.2]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA03669 for ; Mon, 13 Mar 2000 18:49:57 -0800 Received: (qmail 4447 invoked from network); 14 Mar 2000 02:49:51 -0000 Received: from functionalprogramming.cql.com (HELO functionalprogramming.com) (seth@208.194.82.228) by nfs.neta.com with SMTP; 14 Mar 2000 02:49:51 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2000 19:45:48 -0700 (MST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Seth Kurtzberg To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: GUI In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: James X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: seth@functionalprogramming.com X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN There is no reason that it has to be one or the other. Pine has the current interface, which I also like. It can also be wrapped with a GUI; for an example, look at emacs and xemacs. The core functionality is there either way, and the interface is then a matter of personal preference. Seth Kurtzberg Machine Independent Software Cell (602) 478-5511 Fax: (480) 614-8909 email: seth@cql.com pager: 888-605-9296 or email 6059296@skytel.com On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, James wrote: > On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Claus Atzenbeck wrote: > > > On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, Satya wrote: > > > > > On Mar 13, 2000 at 07:57, Claus Atzenbeck wrote: > > > > > > > I've seen that there is a GUI for pine (called xpine!?), but it is > > > > still in a early stage. Is there any stable graphical user interface > > > > for pine under X? > > > > > > Pine *is* a user interface. Why would there be a user interface for a user > > > interface? > > > > GUI = > > G = GRAPHICAL > > U = User > > I = Interface > > > > Meaning: Using mouse, drag & drop, several windows, and stuff... > > For me, and I imagine for a great many Pine (& PC-Pine) users, not > having to futz around with a GUI is _the_ major attraction. > > James > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:19:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA07968; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:19:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA30033; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:19:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA16175; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:18:07 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA49606 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:14:31 -0800 Received: from lvcablemodem.com (smtp.lvcablemodem.com [24.234.0.76]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA23294 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:14:31 -0800 Received: from yossarian.lvcablemodem.com ([24.234.47.102]) by lvcablemodem.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:10:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (dlm@localhost) by yossarian.lvcablemodem.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA07860 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:14:44 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:14:44 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dale Morris To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: remove 'don't delete message' MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a fast and dirty way to remove the don't delete this message from my inbox. It's constant reappearance is annoying. thanks -- dale Don't forget the *gasout* April 7-April 10th. Let's protest..!! -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:55:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA08315; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:55:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA30842; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:55:43 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA17935; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:54:45 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA39218 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:53:13 -0800 Received: from tao.agoron.com (root@tao.agoron.com [206.181.233.66]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA28088 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:53:12 -0800 Received: from tao.agoron.com (andy.agoron.com [206.181.233.74]) by tao.agoron.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA13181 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:53:07 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <38CFB1D8.BFD8EFDA@tao.agoron.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 10:52:56 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Andy Malato To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: remove 'don't delete message' References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en,pdf X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You know that is a good question. For some reason, PINE uses that as a placeholder. I don't know exactly why, but I remember reading something once that it has possibly something to do with IMAP services. It never occured in earlier version of PINE (3.9x) but has shown up in the latest version(s). It would be nice if one of the PINE developers explained as to why that message occurs. ---Andy Dale Morris wrote: > Is there a fast and dirty way to remove the don't delete this message from > my inbox. It's constant reappearance is annoying. > thanks > > -- dale > > Don't forget the *gasout* April 7-April 10th. Let's protest..!! > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:59:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA07595; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:59:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA30924; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:59:42 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA20146; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:58:32 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA34284 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:57:56 -0800 Received: from ERC.MsState.Edu (root@Sniper.ERC.MsState.Edu [130.18.14.12]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA29143 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 07:57:52 -0800 Received: from Downforce.ERC.MsState.Edu (roger@Downforce.ERC.MsState.Edu [130.18.15.100]); by ERC.MsState.Edu (8.9.3/8.9.2/ERC-Mailhost/1.10) with ESMTP; id JAA20548; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:57:50 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (roger@localhost); by Downforce.ERC.MsState.Edu (8.9.2/8.9.2/ERC-Irix/1.2) with ESMTP; id JAA22850; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:57:50 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 09:57:50 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Roger L. Smith" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: remove 'don't delete message' In-Reply-To: <38CFB1D8.BFD8EFDA@tao.agoron.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Andy Malato X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: Downforce.ERC.MsState.Edu: roger owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Or, you could just RTFM. http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/problems.html#xtocid1175429 On Wed, 15 Mar 2000, Andy Malato wrote: [...] > It would be nice if one of the PINE developers explained as to why that > message occurs. > > Dale Morris wrote: > > > Is there a fast and dirty way to remove the don't delete this message from > > my inbox. It's constant reappearance is annoying. > > thanks _\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_\|/_ | Roger L. Smith Phone:662-325-3625 roger@ERC.MsState.Edu | | Systems Administrator FAX: 662-325-7692 WWW.ERC.MsState.Edu/~roger | |-------------------------------------------------------------------------| | Mississippi State University/National Science Foundation | |______Engineering Research Center for Computational Field Simulation_____| From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:34:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA15568; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:34:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA10777; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:34:54 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA25244; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:32:54 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA05588 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:29:21 -0800 Received: from law.usc.edu (law.usc.edu [128.125.42.6]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA07582 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:29:20 -0800 Received: from l2122.usc.edu (l2122 [128.125.42.67]) by law.usc.edu (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA20822 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:31:29 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 14:29:19 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Robert Larmon To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: PC-Pine error: Bogus sequenc in +FLAGS MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-X-Sender: rlarmon@faculty-law.usc.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi y'all, Anyone know what this error message means? I get it once in a while, but I can't find anything in the FAQ or the list archive about it. Here's the full message. "IMAP protocol error: Bogus sequence in +FLAGS" (then...) "Bogus sequence in +FLAGS" It usually happens when I'm replying to someone, although I haven't found a pattern of who I'm replying to or a particular client that sent the email. It also appears to send the message properly, but it's still unsettling to see a bogus anything to appear on the screen. Thanks for any help, Robert -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:27:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA14495; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:27:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA12467; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:27:11 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA13667; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:26:11 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA18288 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:22:53 -0800 Received: from white.lambton.on.ca (white.lambton.on.ca [192.139.190.2]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA18257 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 15:22:52 -0800 Received: from lambton.on.ca ([192.139.190.127]) by white.lambton.on.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01888 for ; Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:22:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <38D01B3A.A5E8DB95@lambton.on.ca> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2000 18:22:34 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Helpdesk To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Opening Attachments MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Accept-Language: en-US,en X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Why with PC-Pine version 4.21, when trying to view attachments, word attachments work fine, but I can not open Excel attachments?? I dont want to have to save the file before opening it, I just want to be able to click on it and have it open. Pc-pine gives an error does not recognize MSExcel attachment. Any ideas would be of great help Amanda Lambton College helpdesk -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:41:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id TAA14112; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA30526; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:41:47 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id TAA09395; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:40:56 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA20742 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:38:31 -0800 Received: from chia.umiacs.umd.edu (chia.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.111]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA20954 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 19:38:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by chia.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA22073 for ; Thu, 16 Mar 2000 22:38:29 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2000 22:38:28 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: ADAM Sulmicki To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: two pine questions. In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: chia.umiacs.umd.edu: adam owned process doing -bs X-Sender: adam@chia.umiacs.umd.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 13 Mar 2000, ADAM Sulmicki wrote: > I can use alt-addresses to make emails forwarded from my other > accounts appear with a "+" in index. However, this work only if > I'm at the To: field and it does not work for me if I'm CC:ed > instead. Any easy way to fix it? Well, I looked around sources and I have rediscovered the contrib/flag.cc submission. It does exactly what I want. However, this patch is aganist 3.85. Below I have attached updated patch against Pine 4.21 --------------------------------------------------------------------- --- pine/mailindx.c-BACKUP Thu Mar 16 21:34:20 2000 +++ pine/mailindx.c Thu Mar 16 21:44:11 2000 @@ -3145,6 +3145,12 @@ to_us = '+'; break; } + for(addr = fetch_cc(idata); addr; addr = addr->next) + if(address_is_us(addr, ps_global) + || resent_to_us(idata)){ + to_us = '+'; + break; + } if(idata->bogus) break; @@ -3183,6 +3189,12 @@ to_us = '+'; break; } + for(addr = fetch_cc(idata); addr; addr = addr->next) + if(address_is_us(addr, ps_global) + || resent_to_us(idata)){ + to_us = '+'; + break; + } if(idata->bogus) break; --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:15:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA20316; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:15:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA08378; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:15:17 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA20170; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:14:35 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA33472 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:12:08 -0800 Received: from mx2.itb.ac.id (mx2.itb.ac.id [202.249.47.37]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA20125 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:11:55 -0800 Received: (qmail 21553 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Mar 2000 02:11:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cyberlib.itb.ac.id) (167.205.20.28) by mx2.itb.ac.id with SMTP; 20 Mar 2000 02:11:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 8255 invoked by uid 1721); 20 Mar 2000 02:14:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Mar 2000 02:14:04 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:14:03 +0700 (JAVT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Paulus To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Can you help me? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I am a college student in Indonesia.I have email acces but I don't have the internet acces. Could any of you tell me how can I optimalized my email? I want to explore the internet, can you tell me where can I get 'getweb' facility? Thank you Paulus -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:30:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA23855; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA27078; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:30:19 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA20427; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:29:26 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA39380 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:28:21 -0800 Received: from mx2.itb.ac.id (mx2.itb.ac.id [202.249.47.37]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA18336 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:28:03 -0800 Received: (qmail 22496 invoked by uid 1003); 20 Mar 2000 02:27:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cyberlib.itb.ac.id) (167.205.20.28) by mx2.itb.ac.id with SMTP; 20 Mar 2000 02:27:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 15615 invoked by uid 1721); 20 Mar 2000 02:30:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Mar 2000 02:30:26 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 09:30:26 +0700 (JAVT) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Paulus To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Can you help me? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Yes , I do have the pine access. But that is the only acces I have. I can't browse the internet. That because our admin. allowed not to do that. What I'm trying to ask you is how can I browse the internet via e-mail, or at least at the similar matter. Thank you **************************** Gaudeamus igitur, Iuvenes dum sumus (Let us be happy while we are young) ***************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:49:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA30727; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:49:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA08969; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:49:33 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA20660; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:48:31 -0800 Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (root@jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA44386 for ; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:47:55 -0800 Received: from dante08.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante08.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.10]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id SAA29060; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:47:54 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante08.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA98572; Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:47:54 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2000 18:47:54 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Can you help me? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Paulus X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I found a FAQ on how you can access web pages by e-mail. Here's how to get it, by e-mail, FTP, or HTTP: Finding the Latest Version -------------------------- This document is now available from several automated mail servers. To get the latest edition, send email to one of the addresses below. To: mail-server@rtfm.mit.edu (for US, Canada & South America) Enter only this line in the BODY of the note: send usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email To: mailbase@mailbase.ac.uk (for Europe, Asia, etc.) Enter only this line in the BODY of the note: send lis-iis e-access-inet.txt To: gboyd@netcom.com Subject: send accmail.faq You can also get the file by anonymous FTP at one of these sites: Site: rtfm.mit.edu get pub/usenet/news.answers/internet-services/access-via-email Site: ftp.mailbase.ac.uk get pub/lists/lis-iis/files/e-access-inet.txt Or on the Web in HTML format at: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/internet-services/access-via-email/ -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Mon, 20 Mar 2000, Paulus wrote: > I am a college student in Indonesia.I have email acces but I don't > have the internet acces. Could any of you tell me how can I optimalized > my email? > I want to explore the internet, can you tell me where can I get 'getweb' > facility? > Thank you > > Paulus > > > > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:33:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id FAA10801; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:33:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA05873; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:33:49 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id FAA28581; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:32:59 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA39912 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:31:49 -0800 Received: from cdfpc24.in2p3.fr (cdfpc24.in2p3.fr [193.48.105.186]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA24161 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:31:47 -0800 Received: from localhost (frenkiel@localhost) by cdfpc24.in2p3.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA11704 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:31:43 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:31:43 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: pierre.frenkiel@cdf.in2p3.fr To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: error in location of pine.conf MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Authentication-Warning: cdfpc24.in2p3.fr: frenkiel owned process doing -bs X-Sender: frenkiel@cdfpc24.in2p3.fr X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Version pine-4.21-3 ( from redhat contrib : pine-4.21-3.i386.rpm) The config files pine.conf and pine.conf.fixed are placed in /etc, but are not used. To be taken into account, they must be in /usr/local/lib, as said in the man page. -- Pierre Frenkiel e-mail: pierre.frenkiel@cdf.in2p3.fr Physique Corpusculaire et Cosmologie tel: 01.44.27.15.27 Collège de France tel mobile: 06.68.14.73.64 11 pl. Marcelin Berthelot / F-75231 Paris Cedex 5 fax: 01.43.54.69.89 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:45:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id FAA14502; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA06049; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:45:31 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id FAA28765; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:44:55 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA48280 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:43:14 -0800 Received: from cdfpc24.in2p3.fr (cdfpc24.in2p3.fr [193.48.105.186]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id FAA26801 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 05:43:08 -0800 Received: from localhost (frenkiel@localhost) by cdfpc24.in2p3.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12039 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:43:05 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 14:43:05 +0100 (CET) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: pierre.frenkiel@cdf.in2p3.fr To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: bug in address recognition MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT X-Authentication-Warning: cdfpc24.in2p3.fr: frenkiel owned process doing -bs X-Sender: frenkiel@cdfpc24.in2p3.fr X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I found the following bug in pine 4.10. It remains in 4.21-3: if enable-msg-view-addresses is set, the first available email address SHOULD BE displayed in inverse this doesn't work if the address start with a digit. For example, try : support@3com.com -- Pierre Frenkiel e-mail: pierre.frenkiel@cdf.in2p3.fr Physique Corpusculaire et Cosmologie tel: 01.44.27.15.27 Collège de France tel mobile: 06.68.14.73.64 11 pl. Marcelin Berthelot / F-75231 Paris Cedex 5 fax: 01.43.54.69.89 tel domicile: 01.60.86.58.25 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:34:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA22600; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:34:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA19476; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:34:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id NAA03304; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:30:29 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA29870 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:28:09 -0800 Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA29704 for ; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:28:09 -0800 Received: from microdol1.cac.washington.edu (microdol1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.112.196]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA09152; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:28:07 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated as hubert@u.washington.edu with GSSAPI) by microdol1.cac.washington.edu (8.10.0.Beta12/8.10.0.Beta12/UW99.11) with ESMTP id e2KLS7G17786; Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:28:07 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 13:28:05 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: bug in address recognition In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pierre.frenkiel@cdf.in2p3.fr X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN We'll fix it for next version of pine. Thanks. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Mon, 20 Mar 2000 pierre.frenkiel@cdf.in2p3.fr wrote: > I found the following bug in pine 4.10. It remains in 4.21-3: > > if enable-msg-view-addresses is set, > the first available email address SHOULD BE displayed in inverse > > this doesn't work if the address start with a digit. > For example, try : > > support@3com.com > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:00:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA18793; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:00:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA11369; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:00:26 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA10018; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:59:33 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA56114 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:57:23 -0800 Received: from romeda.dhs.org (IDENT:root@cast-53-0112.direct.ca [216.66.156.12]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA04036 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:57:21 -0800 Received: from localhost (IDENT:lattice@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by romeda.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA07819 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:57:17 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 15:57:16 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Blaine Cook To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: New messages in folders? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: lattice@roygbiv X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi, I was wondering if there is a way to have pine highlight folders in which there are new messages. I have a fairly extensive heirarchy of folders, managed by procmail, and although it has allowed me to keep on top of email, and avoid reading messages I don't care about, it takes far too much time to constantly be checking if there are new messages in any of the folders, and I don't want to turn it into a flat-heirarchy by placing all the folders in the Incoming-Folders collection. Any solutions? thanks, blaine -- _ . ( o> - INDEED. .o. ///\ \/ _._`\V_/_ http://www.yellow5.com/pokey/ _/_____ -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:51:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id QAA23854; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:51:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA31838; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:51:49 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id QAA11103; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:50:58 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA54998 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:50:18 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id QAA15926 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:50:18 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25850; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:50:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 16:50:15 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New messages in folders? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Blaine Cook X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Blaine Cook wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Hi, I was wondering if there is a way to have pine highlight folders in which :) there are new messages. I have a fairly extensive heirarchy of folders, :) managed by procmail, and although it has allowed me to keep on top of email, :) and avoid reading messages I don't care about, it takes far too much time to :) constantly be checking if there are new messages in any of the folders, and I :) don't want to turn it into a flat-heirarchy by placing all the folders in the :) Incoming-Folders collection. :) Since you are not using your incoming-folder-collections (I disagree with you on that, but the following advice will work only because you are not using incoming-folders-collection). Put your cursor on any of the folders that are in the same collection list that are the folders where you want to check your new mail. Press ";" to select and take a look at the menu in the bottom, there should be a "Properties" options, press the letter P. A new menu should appears. Press N for selecting the folders with new messages. This will select in bold the folders containing new messages. The disadvantage of this is that it will probably select a folder like "sent-mail", which has new mail, but not new incoming mail. Somehow this does not work in the incoming folders collection, for unknown reasons to me. Maybe someone more knowledgeable has an explanation why. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:25:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA22560; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:25:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA00311; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:25:41 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id RAA12511; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:24:57 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA22368 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:24:05 -0800 Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA17635 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:24:05 -0800 Received: from eastmail2.East.Sun.COM ([129.148.1.241]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13562; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:24:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from dartmouth.East.Sun.Com (dartmouth.East.Sun.COM [129.148.180.127]) by eastmail2.East.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id UAA13363; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:24:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from kenna (kenna [129.148.180.108]) by dartmouth.East.Sun.Com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA05806; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:23:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 20:21:32 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: David Finberg - Sun High Performance Computing To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pop3 and saved passwords MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Bug Reports X-Cc: Pine Mailing List X-Sender: dfinberg@kenna X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN So, I recently went to use pine on the sparc 20 I have at home with my pop account, and so compiled in the PASSFILE option. However, I quickly discovered that this did no good at all. Hmmm. On tracing through the code, I found in c-client/pop3.c ~line 400 long pop3_auth (MAILSTREAM *stream,NETMBX *mb,char *tmp,char *usr) { ... if (auths) { /* got any authenticators? */ for (t = NIL; LOCAL->netstream && auths && (at = mail_lookup_auth (find_rightmost_bit (&auths)+1)); ) { if (t) { /* previous authenticator failed? */ sprintf (tmp,"Retrying using %.80s authentication after %.80s", at->name,t); mm_log (tmp,NIL); fs_give ((void **) &t); } for (i = 1,tmp[0] = '\0'; /* until run out of trials */ LOCAL->netstream && i && (i <= pop3_maxlogintrials); ) { Is there any obvious reason why i is starting at 1? Especially since in mm_login in pine/imap.c we have if(trial == 0L){ strcpy(user, (*mb->user) ? mb->user : ps_global->VAR_USER_ID); /* try last working password associated with this host. */ if(imap_get_passwd(mm_login_list, pwd, user, hostlist, mb->altflag)) return; #ifdef PASSFILE /* check to see if there's a password left over from last session */ if(get_passfile_passwd(ps_global->pinerc, pwd, user, &hostlist[0], mb->altflag)){ dprint(0, (debugfile, "FLAG %d\n", mb->altflag)); imap_set_passwd(&mm_login_list, pwd, user, &hostlist[0], mb->altflag); return; } #endif It seems that if the pop server returns AUTH's you can't use the PASSFILE code. With no auths you are fine. I can't see any reason why pine wants to enforce this restriction (some standard? That would be odd),but it does seem to have been done deliberately. Any answers out there? -- Dave From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:32:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA19014; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:32:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA13950; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:32:26 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id RAA26729; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:31:29 -0800 Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA47578 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:30:50 -0800 Received: from dante04.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante04.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.6]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id RAA28512; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:30:49 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante04.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA33090; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:30:48 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:30:48 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pop3 and saved passwords In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: David Finberg - Sun High Performance Computing X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I don't know enough about Pine's code to do any debugging, but the usual cause for PASSFILE not working is that your user name is different on the two systems. If that is the case, try adding /user=username after every instance of your server's name. (For example, {my.pop.server.com/user=dfinberg}INBOX ) -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, David Finberg - Sun High Performance Computing wrote: > So, I recently went to use pine on the sparc 20 I have at home with my pop > account, and so compiled in the PASSFILE option. However, I quickly > discovered that this did no good at all. Hmmm. > > > On tracing through the code, I found in > c-client/pop3.c > > ~line 400 > > long pop3_auth (MAILSTREAM *stream,NETMBX *mb,char *tmp,char *usr) > { > ... > if (auths) { /* got any authenticators? */ > for (t = NIL; LOCAL->netstream && auths && > (at = mail_lookup_auth (find_rightmost_bit (&auths)+1)); ) { > if (t) { /* previous authenticator failed? */ > sprintf (tmp,"Retrying using %.80s authentication after %.80s", > at->name,t); > mm_log (tmp,NIL); > fs_give ((void **) &t); > } > for (i = 1,tmp[0] = '\0'; /* until run out of trials */ > LOCAL->netstream && i && (i <= pop3_maxlogintrials); ) { > > > Is there any obvious reason why i is starting at 1? Especially since in > mm_login in pine/imap.c we have > > if(trial == 0L){ > strcpy(user, (*mb->user) ? mb->user : ps_global->VAR_USER_ID); > > /* try last working password associated with this host. */ > if(imap_get_passwd(mm_login_list, pwd, user, hostlist, > mb->altflag)) > return; > > #ifdef PASSFILE > /* check to see if there's a password left over from last session > */ > if(get_passfile_passwd(ps_global->pinerc, pwd, > user, &hostlist[0], mb->altflag)){ > dprint(0, (debugfile, "FLAG %d\n", mb->altflag)); > > imap_set_passwd(&mm_login_list, pwd, user, > &hostlist[0], mb->altflag); > return; > } > #endif > > It seems that if the pop server returns AUTH's you can't use the > PASSFILE code. With no auths you are fine. I can't see any reason > why pine wants to enforce this restriction (some standard? That would be > odd),but it does seem to have been done deliberately. Any answers out > there? > > -- Dave > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:46:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA22434; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA05120; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:46:05 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA18106; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:45:16 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA29678 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:43:59 -0800 Received: from romeda.dhs.org (IDENT:root@mut-53-0631.direct.ca [216.66.134.127]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA09781 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 21:43:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (IDENT:lattice@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by romeda.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08267; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:12:23 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 17:12:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Blaine Cook To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New messages in folders? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Eduardo Chappa L." X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Sender: lattice@roygbiv X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Eduardo Chappa L. wrote: >Since you are not using your incoming-folder-collections (I disagree with >you on that, but the following advice will work only because you are not >using incoming-folders-collection). Is it possible to create a heirarchy within the incoming-folders collection, that can be 'd through to see new messages? If so, this would be the ideal way to deal with messages, but I seem to recall not being able to do this..? > Put your cursor on any of the folders that are in the same collection >list that are the folders where you want to check your new mail. Press ";" >to select and take a look at the menu in the bottom, there should be a >"Properties" options, press the letter P. A new menu should appears. Press >N for selecting the folders with new messages. This will select in bold >the folders containing new messages. The disadvantage of this is that it >will probably select a folder like "sent-mail", which has new mail, but >not new incoming mail. Thanks, this works well -- is there any way to have pine do this automatically, and perhaps rather than selecting folders, mark them as bold? Also, recursion would be nice.. ;-) blaine -- _ . ( o> - INDEED. .o. ///\ \/ _._`\V_/_ http://www.yellow5.com/pokey/ _/_____ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:06:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id XAA27085; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA20162; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:06:10 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id XAA19557; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:05:20 -0800 Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA29638 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:03:51 -0800 Received: from dante32.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante32.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.214]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id XAA17022 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:03:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante32.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id XAA49586 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:03:49 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 23:03:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New messages in folders? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Blaine Cook wrote: > On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Eduardo Chappa L. wrote: > > >Since you are not using your incoming-folder-collections (I disagree with > >you on that, but the following advice will work only because you are not > >using incoming-folders-collection). > > Is it possible to create a heirarchy within the incoming-folders collection, > that can be 'd through to see new messages? If so, this would be the > ideal way to deal with messages, but I seem to recall not being able to do > this..? It's not currently possible to do folder heirarchies within incoming-folders, but you can still preserve your heirarchical structure in your folder collections while creating shortcuts to the folders in incoming-folders. Perhaps that would be the best (though not ideal) solution in your case. > Thanks, this works well -- is there any way to have pine do this > automatically, and perhaps rather than selecting folders, mark them as bold? > Also, recursion would be nice.. ;-) It's not currently possible (AFAIK), and I don't know if it's very high on the Pine Team's priority list... (Think patch.) -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:35:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA31033; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:35:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA29878; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:35:30 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA12496; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:32:34 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA47388 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:29:52 -0800 Received: from blkbox.com (swhatley@blkbox.com [206.109.97.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA07988 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 06:29:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (swhatley@localhost) by blkbox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA00715; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:29:45 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 08:29:45 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steven Whatley To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: New messages in folders? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Blaine Cook X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Tue, 21 Mar 2000, Blaine Cook wrote: > Hi, I was wondering if there is a way to have pine highlight folders in which > there are new messages. I have a script that I use to look through my IN.* mailboxes. It gets called when I log in. I include it below: --------- newmail.sh --------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/ksh # # Date: Fri, 3 Dec 1999 12:11:38 -0600 (CST) # From: Mike Miller # To: Pine Discussion Forum # Subject: incoming folders (was Re: Ok, here I go again!) # if [ `wc /var/mail/swhatley | awk '{print $1}'` == 0 ]; then echo "" echo "No mail in Inbox" else echo "" egrep '^From ' /usr/mail/swhatley | wc | awk '{print "Listing of "$1" messages in your inbox:"}' echo "" for item in `egrep -n '^From ' /usr/mail/swhatley | awk -F: '{print $1}'`; do tail +$item /var/mail/swhatley | egrep '^From: ' | head -1 tail +$item /var/mail/swhatley | egrep '^From: |^Subject: ' | tail +2 | head -1 | egrep -v '^From: ' echo "" done fi echo "" echo "Messages in other inboxes:" echo "" for file in `ls -1 ~/Mail/.Incoming/IN.* | grep -v lock | awk -F. '{print $NF}'`; do echo "IN.$file `egrep '^From ' ~/Mail/.Incoming/IN.$file | wc`" | awk '{print $2"\t"$1}' | grep -v ^0\ done echo "" ----------------------------------------------------------------- I hope this helps. Later, Steven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:49:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA32383; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:49:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA29635; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:49:31 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id NAA01699; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:48:18 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA11088 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:47:03 -0800 Received: from cicero2.cybercity.dk (cicero2.cybercity.dk [212.242.40.53]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA04893 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 13:46:58 -0800 Received: from usr01.netlink.se (usr01.netlink.se [212.242.42.10]) by cicero2.cybercity.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA21858 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:39:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from micke (cvx-mal-1-320.ppp.netlink.se [212.242.98.64]) by usr01.netlink.se (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA12316 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:39:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from micke@swebase.com) Message-Id: <001201bf9510$acd32f80$0201a0c0@micke> Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 22:42:20 +0100 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Micke" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-To: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN /usr/local/lib/pine.conf does not work properly. When i add a new user the config i have in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf are = just ignored and i get some default .pinerc file in the users dir. Can = anyone please help me whit this and how i fix it. ./kasper Sweden on a freebsd machine. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:31:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA09454; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:31:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA11279; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:31:47 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA13707; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:30:51 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA39748 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:29:46 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA04243 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:29:46 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.2]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA12024; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:29:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 14:29:43 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine problem In-Reply-To: <001201bf9510$acd32f80$0201a0c0@micke> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Micke X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Micke wrote in the pine-info list today: :) /usr/local/lib/pine.conf does not work properly. :) :) When i add a new user the config i have in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf :) are just ignored and i get some default .pinerc file in the users :) dir. Can anyone please help me whit this and how i fix it. :) Take a look at any .pine-debug file of your users and look at the first few lines, mine looks like this: reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf" Read 5662 characters: reading_pinerc "/user4/chappa/.pinerc" Read 22201 characters: read_pinerc: pinerc_written = 953848501 reading_pinerc "/usr/local/lib/pine.conf.fixed" Open failed: No such file or directory if there was a problem, then pine would notify me here (it would print a different message instead of the number of characters). That should tell you what's going wrong. If this does not help much, get back to us and tell us more about the problem. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:25:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id RAA09583; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:25:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA16149; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:24:59 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id RAA09644; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:23:59 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA49522 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:23:03 -0800 Received: from leonis.nus.edu.sg (leonis.nus.edu.sg [137.132.1.18]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id RAA10792 for ; Thu, 23 Mar 2000 17:23:02 -0800 Received: from sirius.cc.nus.edu.sg (sirius.cc.nus.edu.sg [137.132.12.181]) by leonis.nus.edu.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15410; Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:22:56 +0800 (SST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 09:22:55 +0800 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Yeo Eng Hee To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine problem In-Reply-To: <001201bf9510$acd32f80$0201a0c0@micke> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Sender: cceyeoeh@sirius.cc.nus.edu.sg X-To: Micke X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Micke wrote: > /usr/local/lib/pine.conf does not work properly. > > When i add a new user the config i have in /usr/local/lib/pine.conf are just ignored and i get some default .pinerc file in the users dir. Can anyone please help me whit this and how i fix it. > > > ./kasper Sweden on a freebsd machine. > > -- > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: > http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > The fixed settings should be placed in pine.conf.fixed. Yeo Eng Hee NUS Computer Centre, 2 Engineering Drive 4, Singapore 117584 Tel: (65) 874 5085; Fax: (65) 778 0198; Email: cceyeoeh@nus.edu.sg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:22:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA20068; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:22:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA23137; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:22:03 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA12959; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:20:51 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA34740 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:17:51 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA23667 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:17:51 -0800 Received: (qmail 1973 invoked by uid 1828); 25 Mar 2000 22:17:50 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 14:17:50 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mattack@area.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: crash in pine 4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I've got a particular message (spam) that crashes when I answer the 'reply to all recipients' question (I'm trying to complain, and just use 'r' to start the reply that I send to all relevant parties). It happens every time. Hopefully this backtrace will help? Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x1a7228 in fetch_contents (stream=0x3e1260, msgno=1215, section=0xefffe3e8 "2", body=0x0) at reply.c:4499 reply.c:4499: No such file or directory. (gdb) bt #0 0x1a7228 in fetch_contents (stream=0x3e1260, msgno=1215, section=0xefffe3e8 "2", body=0x0) at reply.c:4499 #1 0x19f828 in reply_body (stream=0x3e1260, env=0x468558, orig_body=0x462348, msgno=1215, sect_prefix=0x0, msgtext=0x410918, prefix=0x466448 ">", plustext=1, template_file=0x0, sig_file=0x3da2a8 ".signature", redraft_pos=0xefffe5b4) at reply.c:1844 #2 0x19b9fc in reply (pine_state=0x3d8450) at reply.c:565 #3 0x108440 in cmd_reply (state=0x3d8450, msgmap=0x3d8d48, agg=0) at mailcmd.c:1739 #4 0x1026bc in process_cmd (state=0x3d8450, stream=0x3e1260, msgmap=0x3d8d48, command=705, in_index=1, force_mailchk=0xeffff1e8) at mailcmd.c:360 #5 0x123230 in index_lister (state=0x3d8450, cntxt=0x3e07a0, folder=0x3d84d5 "INBOX", stream=0x3e1260, msgmap=0x3d8d48) at mailindx.c:1029 #6 0x121958 in mail_index_screen (state=0x3d8450) at mailindx.c:498 #7 0x192644 in main (argc=1, argv=0xeffff804) at pine.c:911 Wait, body=0. The message is some sort of JavaScript crap that is supposed to execute.. is that relevant? I can copy/paste the message if necessary. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:47:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id UAA16945; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:47:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA28844; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:47:22 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id UAA11395; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:46:24 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA35112 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:44:14 -0800 Received: from smtp01.primenet.com (smtp01.primenet.com [206.165.6.131]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id UAA03613 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 20:44:14 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp01.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA08010 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:44:06 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp01.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAGRaWLp; Sat Mar 25 21:44:00 2000 Received: from localhost (fairall@localhost) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA28882 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:44:05 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 23:44:05 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Leslie Fairall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: address question MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: usr06.primenet.com: fairall owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Is there a command to write a message to everyone in your address book? I know you can highlight a person'[s address and compose to them, but it seems like you ought to be able to send a message to everyone in your addressbook at the same time. ***** ************************************************** "Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly. It's just very particular about who it makes friends with." mailto:fairall@primenet.com -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:16:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id VAA21703; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:16:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA29219; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:16:24 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id VAA11750; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:14:47 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA28946 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:13:03 -0800 Received: from chia.umiacs.umd.edu (chia.umiacs.umd.edu [128.8.120.111]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id VAA14772 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 21:13:03 -0800 Received: from localhost (adam@localhost) by chia.umiacs.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA28080; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:12:59 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 00:12:58 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: ADAM Sulmicki To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: address question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Leslie Fairall X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: chia.umiacs.umd.edu: adam owned process doing -bs X-Sender: adam@chia.umiacs.umd.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > Is there a command to write a message to everyone in your address > book? I know you can highlight a person'[s address and compose to them, > but it seems like you ought to be able to send a message to everyone in > your addressbook at the same time. Had this been implemented, you would call it with 'S' key and the "feature" would be called 'Spam'. However, I recall that pine allows you create 'Distribution Lists'. so if you have a group of people to whom you need to send regularly. I would suggest to create a distribution list. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 22:50:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA25147; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 22:50:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA30532; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 22:50:36 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id WAA14450; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 22:49:41 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA44468 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 22:47:48 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA09792 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 22:47:48 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.2]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA12499; Sat, 25 Mar 2000 22:47:43 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2000 22:47:38 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: address question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Leslie Fairall X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Leslie Fairall wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Is there a command to write a message to everyone in your address :) book? I know you can highlight a person'[s address and compose to them, :) but it seems like you ought to be able to send a message to everyone in :) your addressbook at the same time. :) Yes you can, go into your addressbook, press the ";" key to select (I assume that you have [X] enable-aggregate-command-set already in your configuration), press A to select "all". After that press the letter A to "apply" and press the letter "C". This will put all the addresses in the To: field of your message. I recommend you that if you have a big addressbook that you delete all these entries from the To: field manually using ^K and putting them in the Lcc: or Bcc: field with ^U (the Lcc: and Bcc: field appear after you press the ^R key). -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:42:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA17223; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:42:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA11279; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:42:41 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA16250; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:41:52 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA47978 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:39:48 -0800 Received: from smtp03.primenet.com (smtp03.primenet.com [206.165.6.133]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA06615 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:39:47 -0800 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp03.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA22717; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 02:39:16 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp03.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAdBaixS; Sun Mar 26 02:39:14 2000 Received: from localhost (fairall@localhost) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA06627; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 02:39:42 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 04:39:41 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Leslie Fairall To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: address question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: "Eduardo Chappa L." X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: usr06.primenet.com: fairall owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hi: Thank you for your polite answer. This raises another question. What is the purpose of the lcc: field? Is is similar to bcc? ***** ************************************************** "Contrary to popular belief, Unix is user friendly. It's just very particular about who it makes friends with." mailto:fairall@primenet.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:55:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA23492; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:55:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA11464; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:55:42 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA15180; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:54:55 -0800 Received: from mxu2.u.washington.edu (mxu2.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.9]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA42970 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:53:24 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA07012 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:53:24 -0800 Received: from goedel1.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel1.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.2]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA18819; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:53:21 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 01:53:20 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: address question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Leslie Fairall X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Leslie Fairall (fairall@primenet.com) wrote today: :) Thank you for your polite answer. This raises another question. What is :) the purpose of the lcc: field? Is is similar to bcc? :) No problem. The Lcc: field as well the Bcc: field are designed to send messages to other people without the recipients knowing who received the message besides him/herself. The only difference is what is shown in the To: field of the recipient. If you use Bcc: this one will say "Undisclosed Recipients" (unless you change it) and if you use Lcc: it will say the name of the list that you sent it to (like "my family" or something like that). Usually Lcc: is used for addresses that are already in your addressbook, so now that I think about it, I guess you should use the Bcc: field instead. There is also an online help for every field. Just move the cursor to the field that you need help on, and press ^G. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:27:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA01188; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:27:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA05315; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:27:42 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA24115; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:26:51 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA54090 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:25:35 -0800 Received: from webmail.lvcablemodem.com (hams2.lvcablemodem.com [24.234.0.76]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA28884 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:25:35 -0800 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([24.234.47.102]) by webmail.lvcablemodem.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:21:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (dlm@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04172; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:25:30 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:24:53 +0000 (UTC) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dale Morris To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: pgp4pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@u.washington.edu, holger@flatline.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I'm using Pine 4.21 on a redhat 6.1 Linux machine. Recently I had to reformat my hd and subsequently lost my old pgp4pinerc. I've set it up the same as before, but when I hit ^X to send on version 1.74-2, nothing happens, pgp or gpg is not detected. If I remove pgp4pine 1.74 and install the 1.73 rpm, everything works fine. No big problem, but I'm curious about it. Also, when I query the rpm in gnomerpm, it returns errors, or I will get a warning notice about the holger tmp file. Anyone else noticed the same thing? Thanks - -- dale "How beautiful it is to do nothing and then rest afterward" -Spanish Proverb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine iD8DBQE43a1ag00eSoLcoU8RAtFxAJwO0tFTIZxLXYYkEtAeZjenBA2vTQCdF7mx Cb0ejLbVJzLbAUONlxKd1oE= =l+u5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:58:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA18064; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:58:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA05717; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:58:20 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA18060; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:57:31 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA10948 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:56:50 -0800 Received: from webmail.lvcablemodem.com (hams2.lvcablemodem.com [24.234.0.76]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA28679 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:56:49 -0800 Received: from localhost.localdomain ([24.234.47.102]) by webmail.lvcablemodem.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.387.38); Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:52:14 -0800 Received: from localhost (dlm@localhost) by localhost.localdomain (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA04261; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:56:34 GMT Message-Id: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2000 06:56:15 +0000 (UTC) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Dale Morris To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: re: pgp4pine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: pine-info@u.washington.edu, holger@flatline.de X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 .mmm...saw I forgot to include what versions of pgp and gpg I'm using in my last message: gpg 1.0.0 pgp 6.5.2 pine 4.21 - -- "How beautiful it is to do nothing and then rest afterward" -Spanish Proverb -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine iD8DBQE43bSig00eSoLcoU8RAsKZAJ0RR/8YIGWmhYQfrmk/M9gyJyIClgCgu6a1 8iZtichexwyzC7h0fYj4Lok= =gorb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:33:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id WAA31300; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:33:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA19626; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:33:38 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id WAA11825; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:32:15 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA21988 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:30:34 -0800 Received: from gregory.lang.euro (root@unihome1092.rus.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.192.92]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id WAA30203 for ; Sun, 26 Mar 2000 22:30:29 -0800 Received: from jens (helo=localhost) by gregory.lang.euro with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12ZT4V-0001Nj-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:32:19 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 08:32:19 +0200 (MEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jens To: Pine Discussion Forum MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello to all, I think I actually found a bug using pine. I did receive several mails encrypted using pgp 5.0 on a os/2 system (I remember that I did already have this problems earlier with users on other platforms, eg. win9x). When I try to view this message in the pine-viewer, it just displays half to the encrypted message and then breaks saying "Error: Formatting Error: Non-hexadecimal character in QP-encoding". When I actually extract the message manually from my mail-folder, it can be decrypted without problems. I also tried to view my folder with mutt: no problem at all. Doesn't break. However, I like pine better. :) This morning, I upgraded from pine 4.10 to 4.21 in order to solve the problem, but it is the same thing as before. I actually regard this as a bug as there does not seem to be an error in pgp or anything else to me. The main problem is that pine will not start the display filter and therefore the mail cannot be decrypted in a "standard way" but must be extracted from my folder file manually, which is really NOT satisfying. ;) Anyone ideas for a workaround? Gregory, Waiblingen, Germany Phone: +49-700-JENSLANG ++ Fax: +49-7151-565718 Aus Deutschland : 0700-53675264 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:48:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id AAA11241; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:48:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA32377; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:48:12 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id AAA15063; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:47:26 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id AAA14252 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:46:31 -0800 Received: from MIT.EDU (SOUTH-STATION-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.72.1.2]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id AAA15961 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 00:46:30 -0800 Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA11516; Mon, 27 Mar 00 03:46:23 EST Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA16672 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 03:46:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from x15-cruise-basselope.mit.edu (X15-CRUISE-BASSELOPE.MIT.EDU [18.187.1.60]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA17685 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 03:46:29 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jmorzins@localhost) by x15-cruise-basselope.mit.edu (8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA27486; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 03:46:28 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 03:46:28 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jacob Morzinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: expanded-view-of-folders bug (patch included) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm not sure if the is the right place to send bug reports and fixes. Hopefully, some previous mail that I sent to pine@cac.washinton.edu didn't get lost in the noise. I'll send this one here, though. While trying to set up the combination of combined-folder-display and expanded-view-of-folders, I noticed that pine can get confused when I try to open folders that are in a context other that the one that I was in when I hit "L". I'm including a patch that should fix the problem. The confusion is that pine tries to open the selected folder from the previous context, rather than trying to open it from the context that it is truly in. This makes the combined, expanded folder list nearly useless. As an example, I have folder collections: folder-collections="~/mail" mail/[], "IMAP Folders" {mit.edu/hesiod/imap}INBOX.[], "MH Folders" #mh/[] If I'm reading a "#mh/[]" folder, go to the folder lister, and try to select an imap folder (named "Saved"), pine gives me the error message: [Can't open mailbox #mh/Saved: no such folder] The error message is correct -- there is no folder #mh/Saved, there is only a {mumble/imap}INBOX.Saved . Note that I selected the name "Saved[.]" from the IMAP folder section of the combined folder lister, and not the MH folder section. The error only occurs on folder list entries that are both directories and folders, and the simplest cause seems to be because the "case MC_OPENFLDR" in folder.c's folder_processor() neglects to set the overall context to the selection's context before allowing pine to try to open the selected folder. Applying the following patch to folder.c removes this bug from the combined expanded folder lister, by setting the overall context to the context of the highlighted folder when the MC_OPENFLDR menu command is invoked. Sincerely, Jacob Morzinski jmorzins@mit.edu *** pine4.21/pine/folder.c 2000/02/23 09:32:18 2.1 --- pine4.21/pine/folder.c 2000/03/27 08:10:39 *************** *** 2245,2251 **** /*--------- Open the selected folder -----------*/ case MC_OPENFLDR : if(sparms->text.handles ! && folder_total(FOLDERS(sparms->text.handles->h.f.context))) rv = folder_lister_finish(sparms, sparms->text.handles->h.f.context, sparms->text.handles->h.f.index); else --- 2245,2252 ---- /*--------- Open the selected folder -----------*/ case MC_OPENFLDR : if(sparms->text.handles ! && folder_total(FOLDERS(sparms->text.handles->h.f.context)) ! && (FPROC(sparms)->fs->context = sparms->text.handles->h.f.context)) rv = folder_lister_finish(sparms, sparms->text.handles->h.f.context, sparms->text.handles->h.f.index); else -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 06:48:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA16422; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 06:48:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA27774; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 06:48:40 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA19044; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 06:47:24 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA19050 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 06:46:18 -0800 Received: from eddings.acpub.duke.edu (eddings.acpub.duke.edu [152.3.233.76]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA02024 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 06:46:17 -0800 Received: from pd-staff-9.lib.duke.edu (pd-staff-9.lib.duke.edu [152.3.92.2]) by eddings.acpub.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/Duke-5.0.0) with ESMTP id JAA01060; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:46:16 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 09:46:14 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Christof Galli To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Multiple users of PC-Pine on NT Workstation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Cc: galli@duke.edu X-X-Sender: galli@kuttner.acpub.duke.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Pine-info, I've been wondering about how to configure shortcuts to pine in several user accounts on a NT 4.0 (SP6) workstation. Is it possible to point to the same pine.exe from all of them and to specify with a flag the individual users' pinerc's? Where would these pinerc's have to be located? Thanks, -Christof Galli Duke University, Perkins Library -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:59:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA04167; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:59:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA29239; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:59:25 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA21580; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:58:24 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA18314 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:57:22 -0800 Received: from moose.uvm.edu (moose.uvm.edu [132.198.101.60]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA15245 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 07:57:21 -0800 Received: from gnu.uvm.edu (gnu.uvm.edu [132.198.101.64]) by moose.uvm.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA61048; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:57:20 -0500 Received: from localhost (ashawley@localhost) by gnu.uvm.edu (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA97062; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:57:19 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 10:57:18 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Multiple users of PC-Pine on NT Workstation In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Christof Galli X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: gnu.uvm.edu: ashawley owned process doing -bs X-Sender: ashawley@gnu.uvm.edu X-Dildo: Yes X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN check out here: http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/ specifically here: http://www.ii.com/internet/messaging/pine/pc/#shortcut On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Christof Galli wrote: > I've been wondering about how to configure shortcuts to pine > in several user accounts on a NT 4.0 (SP6) workstation. Is it > possible to point to the same pine.exe from all of them and to > specify with a flag the individual users' pinerc's? Where would > these pinerc's have to be located? -- Aaron S. Hawley -> Aaron.Hawley @ uvm.edu -> http://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:52:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id MAA20880; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA16742; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:52:35 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id MAA02841; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:50:56 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA22302 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:48:35 -0800 Received: from alpha.morningside.edu (alpha.morningside.edu [198.102.147.1]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA26533 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 12:48:31 -0800 Received: from reggae.morningside.edu (proxsrv [198.102.147.30]) by alpha.morningside.edu (AIX4.3/8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA14134 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:50:53 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000327144952.0084e100@kiwi.morningside.edu> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 14:49:52 -0600 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Denny Watkins To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine User Documentation or Manual Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Sender: watkins@kiwi.morningside.edu X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Has anyone written any pine user documentation/manual? If so, would you we willing to share? I'm interested in any "Using Pine" documentation primarily for the Unix environment. Thanks, Denny Watkins Morningside College Jacobsen Computer Center 1501 Morningside Ave. Sioux City, Iowa 51106 Email: watkins@kiwi.morningside.edu Voice: 712-274-5250 Fax: 712-274-5378 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:55:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id NAA18169; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:55:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA18583; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:55:39 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id NAA14074; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:52:48 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA41960 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:50:52 -0800 Received: from moose.uvm.edu (moose.uvm.edu [132.198.101.60]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id NAA14008 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 13:50:51 -0800 Received: from elk.uvm.edu (elk.uvm.edu [132.198.101.63]) by moose.uvm.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA120276 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:50:49 -0500 Received: from localhost (ashawley@localhost) by elk.uvm.edu (AIX4.3/UCB 8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA105520 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:50:49 -0500 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 16:50:48 -0500 (EST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Aaron S. Hawley" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine User Documentation or Manual In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000327144952.0084e100@kiwi.morningside.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Authentication-Warning: elk.uvm.edu: ashawley owned process doing -bs X-Sender: ashawley@elk.uvm.edu X-Dildo: Yes X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, Denny Watkins wrote: > Has anyone written any pine user documentation/manual? > If so, would you we willing to share? pine devolopment, the documentation, and pine itself has always been about "sharing" this links to a lot of the online documentation (like how to use it): http://www.washington.edu/pine/ * especially check the non-UW resources > I'm interested in any "Using Pine" documentation primarily > for the Unix environment. > > Thanks, how about you enable-sigdashes so that pine can remove your signature on reply (if you enable that option) > Denny Watkins > Morningside College > Jacobsen Computer Center > 1501 Morningside Ave. > Sioux City, Iowa 51106 > > Email: watkins@kiwi.morningside.edu > Voice: 712-274-5250 > Fax: 712-274-5378 > -- Aaron S. Hawley -> Aaron.Hawley @ uvm.edu -> http://www.uvm.edu/~ashawley From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:22:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id PAA32085; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:22:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA10873; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:22:09 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id PAA12690; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:20:49 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA10552 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:19:38 -0800 Received: from euler.math.washington.edu (root@euler.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.1]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id PAA03449 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:19:38 -0800 Received: from goedel2.math.washington.edu (chappa@goedel2.math.washington.edu [128.95.224.11]) by euler.math.washington.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA04707; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:19:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 15:19:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Eduardo Chappa L." To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine User Documentation or Manual In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000327144952.0084e100@kiwi.morningside.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Denny Watkins X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN *** Denny Watkins wrote in the pine-info list today: :) Has anyone written any pine user documentation/manual? :) If so, would you we willing to share? :) :) I'm interested in any "Using Pine" documentation primarily :) for the Unix environment. :) All possible documentation about pine can be gotten from pine itself. It can even be printed. From the main menu go to the help link in the top and follow it. It will have all the information on pine you'll ever need to know. You can print it all by pressing the letter "Z" while in there. -- Eduardo http://www.math.washington.edu/~chappa/pine/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:15:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA01673; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:15:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA26083; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:15:45 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA27961; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:14:18 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA33492 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:11:50 -0800 Received: from vax.area.com (vax.area.com [216.218.218.27]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA14895 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:11:50 -0800 Received: (qmail 5711 invoked by uid 1828); 28 Mar 2000 02:11:49 -0000 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:11:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: mattack@area.com To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: message in sent-mail, why are they still 'new'? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Gee, I was about to write this up about the GUI mail program here, but it's really pine. Why does pine not mark the messages in sent-mail as 'read'? I'm putting them there to keep a copy, not as something I want to read again (unless I'm looking for a specific message). In other words, it seems to me it would be GREAT if it automatically set them as READ as it saved them in sent-mail.. The GUI mailer I use at work (MailViewer) does this, and I actually think it's the right thing to do. I noticed this as when I go into my sent-mail on my work mail account, some messages appear as New and some don't.. Just today I realized the "New" ones were ones I'd sent from pine.. BTW, nobody answered about the reproducible crash that I sent a backtrace for.. -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:22:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id SAA25032; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:22:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA15895; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:22:16 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id SAA28355; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:21:04 -0800 Received: from jason05.u.washington.edu (root@jason05.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.6]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA34824 for ; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:20:30 -0800 Received: from dante16.u.washington.edu (leibrand@dante16.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.85]) by jason05.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW00.01) with ESMTP id SAA16660; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:20:29 -0800 Received: from localhost (leibrand@localhost) by dante16.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id SAA65006; Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:20:29 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2000 18:20:29 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Scott Leibrand To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: message in sent-mail, why are they still 'new'? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: mattack@area.com X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Mon, 27 Mar 2000 mattack@area.com wrote: > In other words, it seems to me it would be GREAT if it automatically set > them as READ as it saved them in sent-mail.. The GUI mailer I use at work > (MailViewer) does this, and I actually think it's the right thing to do. I agree. A simple mark-fcc-as-new option would do the trick for me. > BTW, nobody answered about the reproducible crash that I sent a backtrace > for.. Send bug reports to pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu and you can be sure the Pine team will read them. Someone reads all the mail sent to pine@cac, as well, but you might not get a response unless you're a UW affiliate. Pine people: Please correct me if I'm wrong on that. -- Scott Leibrand leibrand@u.washington.edu http://students.washington.edu/leibrand * RCW 19.190 notice: This email address is located in Washington State. * * Unsolicited commercial email may be billed $500 per message. * From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:28:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id BAA03623; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA02177; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:28:31 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id BAA01807; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:23:02 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA35946 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:21:05 -0800 Received: from hermes.hrz.uni-giessen.de (hermes.hrz.uni-giessen.de [134.176.2.15]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id BAA07419 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 01:21:03 -0800 Received: from ha1.hrz.uni-giessen.de by hermes.hrz.uni-giessen.de with ESMTP for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:20:43 +0200 Received: from astaroth.hrz.uni-giessen.de (astaroth.hrz.uni-giessen.de [134.176.2.122]) by ha1.hrz.uni-giessen.de (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7 hacmp) with ESMTP id LAA70364 for ; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:20:41 +0200 (CET) Received: (from g033@localhost) by astaroth.hrz.uni-giessen.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) id LAA13537 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:20:31 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <20000329112030.A13491@astaroth.hrz.uni-giessen.de> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2000 11:20:31 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Juergen Obermann To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: color-style no-color resets terminal colors on quitting pine Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello. We use pine 4.21 under IBM AIX 4.1. Even if color_style ist set to no-color, pine reset the colors of an aixterm or xterm terminal window when the user quits pine. Pine sends [32m[40m (2 times) just before the final message 'Pine finished -- ...' appears. This changes the colors the user has selected and may render the aixterm or xterm windows unusuable. To fix this bug I made the following change: diff -bc pine/osdep/termout.unx.orig pine/osdep/termout.unx *** pine/osdep/termout.unx.orig Sat Jul 3 00:14:48 1999 --- pine/osdep/termout.unx Wed Mar 29 10:14:06 2000 *************** *** 279,285 **** MoveCursor(_lines - 2, 0); /* unset colors */ ! if(pico_hascolor()) pico_endcolor(); if(_termcap_end != NULL) --- 279,285 ---- MoveCursor(_lines - 2, 0); /* unset colors */ ! if(pico_usingcolor()) pico_endcolor(); if(_termcap_end != NULL) After that change, pine leaves the color settings unchanged -- Frohes Schaffen, Juergen Obermann -- Hochschulrechenzentrum der | Mail: Juergen.Obermann@hrz.uni-giessen.de Justus-Liebig-Universitaet | WWW: http://www.uni-giessen.de/~g033 Heinrich-Buff-Ring 44 | Tel: 0641-99-13054 (0641-99-13001) D-35392 Giessen, Germany | Fax: 0641-99-13099 Jede Menge Daten, ueberall bereit, alle wissen alles - keiner weiss Bescheid. (Rolf Zuckowski) -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:25:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA00185; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:25:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA07654; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:25:20 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA11061; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:23:19 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA18690 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:20:54 -0800 Received: from psi12.psi.ch (psi12.psi.ch [129.129.12.142]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA09272 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:20:53 -0800 Received: from 129.129.12.144 by psi12.psi.ch (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:20:47 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) Received: by psi14.psi.ch with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:20:48 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:20:46 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Padiyath Kumar To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine Question on Tru64 OS V4.0D MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BF9A53.23BC76A0" X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF9A53.23BC76A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" <> ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF9A53.23BC76A0 Content-Type: text/plain; name="untitled.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="untitled.txt"  
  Hi,
   Our pine users wants to have the header "From:" when they send messages. I looked
   in the PINE FAQ and did the changes in the file ./pine/osdep/os-osf.h as mentioned
   in the FAQ.

  From  /* #define NEVER_ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM */

    to      #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM

  I have compiled the program  and created the binary. Still Iam not having any success.
  Iam using pine4.21. I have tried with adding in the user .pinerc file:

  # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages
default-composer-hdrs=From:xxx.yyy@XXX.XX

# Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing
customized-hdrs=Reply-to:xxx.yyy@XXX.XX

 I get the following message when I try to compose a mail:

 > NOT allowed to Change header "From:" <
 

    Thanks for help and with regards,
      Kumar

 My E-Mail:   kumar.padiyath@psi.ch
 
 
  ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF9A53.23BC76A0-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:48:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id GAA06571; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:48:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA08011; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:48:37 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA08137; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:36:54 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id GAA29006 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:36:03 -0800 Received: from psi11.psi.ch (psi11.psi.ch [129.129.12.141]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id GAA01405 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 06:36:02 -0800 Received: from 129.129.12.143 by psi11.psi.ch (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:35:57 +0200 (W. Europe Daylight Time) Received: by psi13.psi.ch with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:35:57 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:35:56 +0200 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Padiyath Kumar To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine Question on Tru64 OS V4.0D MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_000_01BF9A55.4231C980" X-To: "'pine-info@u.washington.edu'" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF9A55.4231C980 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi, Sorry for the previous mails. Our pine users wants to have the header "From:" when they send messages. I looked in the PINE FAQ and did the changes in the file ./pine/osdep/os-osf.h as mentioned in the FAQ. From /* #define NEVER_ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM */ to #define ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM I have compiled the program and created the binary. Still Iam not having any success. Iam using pine4.21. I have tried with adding in the user .pinerc file: # Only show these headers (by default) when composing messages default-composer-hdrs=From:xxx.yyy@XXX.XX # Add these customized headers (and possible default values) when composing customized-hdrs=Reply-to:xxx.yyy@XXX.XX I get the following message when I try to compose a mail: > NOT allowed to Change header "From:" < Thanks for help and with regards, Kumar <> ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF9A55.4231C980 Content-Type: text/plain; name="addr.txt" Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="addr.txt" Padiyath Sreekumar System Manager Unix Systems Department of Information and Techonology Paul Scherrer Institute E-mail: kumar.padiyath@psi.ch Tel: +41 56 310 3643 Fax: +41 56 310 36 49 ------_=_NextPart_000_01BF9A55.4231C980-- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:13:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA05938; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:13:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA08460; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:13:52 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA09613; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:11:54 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA29076 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:11:13 -0800 Received: from linux.wku.edu (IDENT:root@linux-cs.tccw.wku.edu [161.6.10.205]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA15603 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:11:12 -0800 Received: from localhost (terzo@localhost) by linux.wku.edu (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA01556 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:58:02 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 08:58:02 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Terzo To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine Locking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I'm geting the error that say Inbox is locked by another process. That process does not exist. Here's what i have tried. 1) echo "" > /var/mail/spool/terzo emptyped out my mail 2) rm /var/mail/spool/terzo and recreated with correct permission(root acces) 3) rm mail directory 4) and even reboot the box... ( i hate doing this) there is no terzo.lock in the spool directory. i'm assuming that the lock was placed using flock. How do i get rid of that lock? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. thanks. terzo **************************** Terzo :1,$s/terzo/root/g Wku-Linux **************************** -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:23:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA07637; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:23:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA08637; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:23:23 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA12984; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:20:45 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA15272 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:20:14 -0800 Received: from linux.wku.edu (IDENT:root@linux-cs.tccw.wku.edu [161.6.10.205]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA17018 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:20:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (terzo@localhost) by linux.wku.edu (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01978 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:20:12 -0600 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 09:20:12 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Terzo To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine Locking In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN > 1) echo "" > /var/mail/spool/terzo emptyped out my mail > 2) rm /var/mail/spool/terzo and recreated with correct permission(root > acces) > 3) rm mail directory > 4) and even reboot the box... ( i hate doing this) > > there is no terzo.lock in the spool directory. i'm assuming that the lock > was placed using flock. How do i get rid of that lock? > > Any help would be GREATLY appreciated. Sorry to bother you.. persistence pays off sometimes.. got to checking my logs and was getting the error linux pine: Mailbox lock file /tmp/.302.29045 open failure: Permission denied well got to snooping around.. my user couldn't create the file .302.29045 so i got to looking and the permissions on temp were not set up properly? that puzzles me... but then again i have to give sudo rights out to a few people where chmod is on of those commands they can use. so i'm going to be doing investigations. thanks for the help though. terzo **************************** Terzo :1,$s/terzo/root/g Wku-Linux **************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:34:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id HAA19962; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:34:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists4.u.washington.edu (root@lists4.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA08838; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:34:11 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id HAA10153; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:32:38 -0800 Received: from mxu3.u.washington.edu (mxu3.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.7]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA37054 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:31:53 -0800 Received: from gregory.lang.euro (root@unihome1029.rus.uni-stuttgart.de [129.69.192.29]) by mxu3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id HAA23486 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 07:31:51 -0800 Received: from jens (helo=localhost) by gregory.lang.euro with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12agBv-0000wr-00 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:44:59 +0200 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 16:44:49 +0200 (MEST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jens To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Pine and gpg / pgp MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello to all, I recently posted a question into this forum regarding problems with using pine and gpg / pgp on Linux. I had a QP-encoding problem. Actually, nobody replied. Well, I found out yesterday what had happened. So if someone is interested to know, please mail and I'll be happy to tell you how I fixed the problem (which was not a pine bug, indeed). Gregory, Waiblingen, Germany -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: pgpenvelope - http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/ftobin/resources.html iD8DBQE442hq6sr/JQdrzbkRAnePAJ9XPpgKqwtSG3+VPSOMyJ/pqCdc+gCeNsdG 8n8xClFHLIzLfXetxa+Sv8I= =4UQs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:28:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id KAA12137; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:28:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA05517; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:28:03 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id KAA18822; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:25:50 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA36576 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:24:18 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA23802 for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:24:18 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA17310; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:24:17 -0800 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id KAA29530; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:24:17 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 10:24:16 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: color-style no-color resets terminal colors on quitting pine In-Reply-To: <20000329112030.A13491@astaroth.hrz.uni-giessen.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Juergen Obermann X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Thanks very much. We agree that this is a bug and that you're fix is correct. Thanks. -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Juergen Obermann wrote: > Hello. > > We use pine 4.21 under IBM AIX 4.1. Even if color_style ist set to > no-color, pine reset the colors of an aixterm or xterm terminal window when > the user quits pine. Pine sends [32m[40m (2 times) just before > the final message 'Pine finished -- ...' appears. This changes the colors > the user has selected and may render the aixterm or xterm windows > unusuable. > > To fix this bug I made the following change: > > diff -bc pine/osdep/termout.unx.orig pine/osdep/termout.unx > *** pine/osdep/termout.unx.orig Sat Jul 3 00:14:48 1999 > --- pine/osdep/termout.unx Wed Mar 29 10:14:06 2000 > *************** > *** 279,285 **** > MoveCursor(_lines - 2, 0); > > /* unset colors */ > ! if(pico_hascolor()) > pico_endcolor(); > > if(_termcap_end != NULL) > --- 279,285 ---- > MoveCursor(_lines - 2, 0); > > /* unset colors */ > ! if(pico_usingcolor()) > pico_endcolor(); > > if(_termcap_end != NULL) > > After that change, pine leaves the color settings unchanged From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:46:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id IAA04554; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:46:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA02548; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:46:19 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id IAA29536; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:45:03 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA48188 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:42:46 -0800 Received: from mail.tju.edu (mail.tju.edu [147.140.146.25]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id IAA18543 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 08:42:45 -0800 Received: from localhost by mail.tju.edu with ESMTP for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:40:43 -0500 Received: from hpmail1.tju.edu [147.140.134.203] by localhost, Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:40:43 +0000 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by hpmail1.tju.edu (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e2VGeKv17913 for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:40:21 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 11:40:10 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Dean Gladney" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Running Pine on AIX 4.3.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline; filename="Running" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OpenMail-Hops: 1 X-Bad-Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name="Running" X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN Hello fellow Pine users. I will be upgrading AIX from 4.2.1 to 4.3.3 in the near future, and I need to know the "a41" build of Pine will work at this release. Thank you very much. Dean Gladney Information Systems Consultant -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:21:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA26432; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:21:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA12118; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:21:25 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA01731; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:19:41 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA30706 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:08:44 -0800 Received: from mxout1.cac.washington.edu (mxout1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.5]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA25921 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:08:43 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mxout1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA31031 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:08:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA28889 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:08:43 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:08:42 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Steve Hubert To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: Pine Question on Tru64 OS V4.0D In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN You don't have to edit the source to allow From changing. The edit you made shouldn't hurt, though. There is a hidden feature called "allow-changing-from". If you want everybody to be allowed, you can put it in the /usr/local/lib/pine.conf file. Otherwise, an individual can add it to their .pinerc file. There is a config variable in the file called feature-list. It might look like: feature-list=enable-incoming-folders, auto-zoom-after-select and so on. You should add allow-changing from to the list. feature-list=enable-incoming-folders, allow-changing-from, auto-zoom-after-select -- Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:41:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id JAA01408; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists5.u.washington.edu (root@lists5.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA04357; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:41:53 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists5.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id JAA03643; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:39:41 -0800 Received: from mxu1.u.washington.edu (mxu1.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA34820 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:36:14 -0800 Received: from natsemi-bh.nsc.com (natsemi-bh.nsc.com [204.163.202.66]) by mxu1.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id JAA00815 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:36:13 -0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by natsemi-bh.nsc.com (8.8.8/8.6.11) id JAA18218 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:36:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from scnt-wsec.nsc.com(139.187.43.22) by natsemi-bh.nsc.com via smap (4.1) id xma017916; Fri, 31 Mar 00 09:35:38 -0800 Received: from 139.187.179.130 by scnt-wsec.nsc.com with ESMTP ( WorldSecure Server SMTP Relay(WSS) v4.5); Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:33:17 -0800 Received: from localhost by scmh1.nsc.com with ESMTP for pine-info@u.washington.edu; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:35:38 -0800 Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 09:35:37 -0800 (PST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: "Marilyn Perry" To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: INLINE (4.21) vs attachment (4.10) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Uuid: b85f21a3-cfd1-11d3-8401-00104bf46ab7 X-Sender: emxpsc@scmh1 X-WSS-ID: 14FA3ECB188887-10-01 X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I send a message containing a text attachment to another user who complains that my text attachment is no longer a text attachment, but is inline. The user complains that they cannot detach the attachment as a separate file. I determined that this problem occurred when I upgraded from pine 4.10 to pine 4.21 because pine 4.21 includes "INLINE" instead of "attachment" in the Content-Disposition MIME header. Here are the complete MIME attachment header lines for pine 4.21 which produce the problem: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: INLINE; filename="sig" Content-Description: Content-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; name=sig Here are the complete MIME attachment header lines for pine 4.10 which produce the desired detachable attachment: Content-Transfer-Encoding: BASE64 Content-ID: Content-Description: Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=sig Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; name=sig What can I do to get the desired results? Is there a way that I can specify the value of the Content-Disposition header when I attach the text file? Or is this just a pine 4.21 bug? I feel that for pine 4.21 to make my attachment inline is a bug, because I intentionally attached the file. If I had wanted to put the text inline, I would have used the Ctrl R (Read File) command, not the Ctrl J (Attach) command. Marilyn Perry -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:52:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id OAA09236; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:52:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA13750; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:52:27 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id OAA25767; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:50:57 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA10378 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:48:25 -0800 Received: from ossbud.fnal.gov (ossbud.fnal.gov [131.225.110.42]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id OAA09208 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 14:48:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (stolz@localhost) by ossbud.fnal.gov (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00425 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:45:06 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 16:45:06 -0600 (CST) Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Michael Stolz To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: probable #mh-related bug in pine v4.21 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Authentication-Warning: ossbud.fnal.gov: stolz owned process doing -bs X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN I sent this to the bug-report address, but have received nothing but the automated reply from U of Wash. Does anyone out there recognize this as a bug, and/or know how to fix it? thanx in advance - Mike *** *** *** *** *** *** Hello - I believe I've found a bug in pine v4.21. I've already searched in comp.mail.pine, and on your web site, without finding any reference to this situation. I support pine at Fermilab, and am pretty familiar with it. I'm currently running pine v4.05 on IRIX 6.2, IRIX 6.5, Solaris 5.6, Solaris 5.7, (Redhat) Linux+2, and OSF1 v40d. I just downloaded pine v4.21, unwound it, and built it on SunOS 5.6. Since I also use exmh occasionally, I have my mail configured to use mh folders as the default. Pine also 'Fcc's me for every message I send, but I have not set any of the Fcc config parameters. By default, pine v4.05 puts my Fcc messages into the #mh/sent-mail folder. However, when I do the same in v4.21, I get the following chain of messages: Send message? y Folder "sent-mail" in <#mh> doesn't exist. Create? y Y [Yes] N No [Fcc Error: "Can't create mailbox #mh/sent-mai...". Message NOT sent or copied.] - When I go into my .pinerc-debug1 file, I find the following ERROR message: ---- COMPOSER ---- new win size -----<24 80>------ new win size -----<24 80>------ Want_to read: y (121) new win size -----<24 80>------ Want_to read: y (121) IMAP 11:36:43 3/2 mm_log ERROR: Can't create mailbox #mh/sent-mail: mailbox already exists -*-*- This ONLY happens when #mh/sent-mail already exists, or when I'm using #mh as my default mail structure. When I remove #mh/sent-mail, or when I set mu default directlry to 'native pine' format, I have no trouble with Fcc. If it will help, I can send you copies of my .pine-debug, .pinerc, and pine.conf files. Mike Stolz - Computing Division Fermi National Accelerator Lab - 630-840-8060 -- ----------------------------------------------------------------- For information about this mailing list, and its archives, see: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.1(11) (invoked by user mailnull) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:07:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupms.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.08) with ESMTP id TAA08261; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:06:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from lists3.u.washington.edu (root@lists3.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA28650; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:06:57 -0800 Received: from host (server@lists.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.13]) by lists3.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id TAA05450; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:05:42 -0800 Received: from mxu4.u.washington.edu (mxu4.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.8]) by lists.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.09/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id TAA15216 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:04:21 -0800 Received: from MIT.EDU (PACIFIC-CARRIER-ANNEX.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.28]) by mxu4.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with SMTP id TAA29844 for ; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 19:04:21 -0800 Received: from GRAND-CENTRAL-STATION.MIT.EDU by MIT.EDU with SMTP id AA06535; Fri, 31 Mar 00 22:06:04 EST Received: from melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (MELBOURNE-CITY-STREET.MIT.EDU [18.69.0.45]) by grand-central-station.MIT.EDU (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA27920; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:04:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from oliver.mit.edu (OLIVER.MIT.EDU [18.187.1.64]) by melbourne-city-street.MIT.EDU (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA28909; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:04:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (jmorzins@localhost) by oliver.mit.edu (8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA299287; Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:04:15 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2000 22:04:15 -0500 Sender: PINE-INFO-owner@u.washington.edu Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Owner: (Human contact for the list) List-Post: From: Jacob Morzinski To: Pine Discussion Forum Subject: Re: probable #mh-related bug in pine v4.21 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-To: Michael Stolz X-Cc: Pine Discussion Forum X-Listprocessor-Version: 8.1 -- ListProcessor(tm) by CREN On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, Michael Stolz wrote: > Folder "sent-mail" in <#mh> doesn't exist. Create? y > [Fcc Error: "Can't create mailbox #mh/sent-mai...". Message NOT sent or copied.] I'm having the same error in pine 4.21 with IMAP folders. Before opening the fcc folder, pine tries to test to see if it exists, but it does this by calling a function that checks to see if it is-a-folder-but-is-not-a-directory. I consider this to be a logic bug in pine, but haven't wrapped my head around the code enough yet to see what the right way to fix it is. This check will fail on MH folders and on IMAP folders, both of which can have a FCC folder which is a folder and is a directory. A work-around for IMAP is to fully specify the path to the fcc folder ( "{host}INBOX.Sent" ). I haven't tested it, but the same work-around for MH might be to fully specify "#mh/sent" instead of letting pine look around for the default save location. Sincerely, Jacob Morzinski jmorzins@mit.edu