From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 01:50:59 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:50:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA02459 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:50:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA12442 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 01:45:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA12435 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 01:45:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfN6g-00038tC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 01:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Kerrie Mercel" Subject: "Submit to over 500 urls" Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:13:34 +0000 Message-ID: <199701010810.AAA25028@web1.valley-internet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hi Do you know about the fully automatic submission program which will link your Web Pages to over 500 Search Engines & Directories? 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Happy New Year Kessa From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 02:07:50 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:07:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA02582 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:07:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA13549 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 02:00:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA13542 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 02:00:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfNJe-00038tC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 01:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbrown@btc.btechnet.com (Paul B. Brown) Subject: Re: unsubscribe Date: 29 Dec 1996 19:28:46 GMT Message-ID: <5a6gpe$li6@news.dgsys.com> References: <59us3g$b8h@mark.ucdavis.edu> In-Reply-To: Randolph L. Wicks Jr. writes: >unsubscribe Randy, You may want to submit this command to a mailing list and not Usenet. To unsubscribe from a newsgroup, simply bow to the four winds and never select that group again. If, however, you want to unsubscribe from a real mailing list, please address said e-mail to the appropriate mail list server. Paul From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 03:25:57 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 03:25:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA03488 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 03:25:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA13774 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 03:20:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA13770 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 03:20:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfOfp-00038tC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 03:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Allen R Sparks Subject: Re: Retrieving names from global addressbook Date: 31 Dec 1996 00:07:42 -0900 Message-ID: References: <19961230021200.VAA25992@ladder01.news.aol.com> vashti@aol.com (Vashti) writes: > > It seems that pine accesses addresses from the global addressbook based on > the nickname. In other words, non-unique names seems to prevent me from > retrieving the address I want from the addressbook. Is there some other > way i can set up my addressbook or do all of my nicknames have to be > unique All your nicknames have to be unique. Think of the addressbook as a as a collection of records in a database, with the nickname as the key field. Another feature that I like is with distribution lists is, you can enter in nicknames as the member of that distribution, instead of the full email address. That almost makes our database relational. === Al From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 07:42:06 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 07:42:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA05453 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 07:42:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA18331 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 07:36:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA18327 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 07:36:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfSa4-00038vC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 07:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ganymede@insync.net (Greg R. Broderick) Subject: Re: Mass mailing Date: Sat, 28 Dec 96 06:28:11 GMT Message-ID: <5a2elr$800b4_006@news.insync.net> References: <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> <5a1u6j$2r5@news1.voicenet.com> In article <5a1u6j$2r5@news1.voicenet.com>, billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) wrote: :In article <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> in newsgroup :comp.mail.pine, LRC-Lienzer Dolomiten :wrote: : :>How can i send 1000s of emails ?? : :type : :'rm -rf * pine' : :at a Unix shell prompt. Bill: You forgot the 'cd /' which *must* be done prior to the invocation of the rm command in order for it to function properly.... ;-) [Note to the unawares: Do Not Try This At Home, it is best done by trained professionals, such as Lyle Larson, Sanford Wallace, and Fred Sterling.] -- ============================================================================ Greg R. Broderick Congress should ensure domestic tranquility, not prevent more perfect unions. If they want ganymede@mailhost.insync.net to save marriage, they should pass a law greg@qrd.org requiring that the backs of dishes shall always be washed. --San Francisco Examiner columnist Rob Morse ============================================================================ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 08:15:13 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 08:15:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA05700 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 08:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA17413 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 08:09:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA17409 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 08:09:26 -0800 Received: from jasoneng (pm2-adr46.interl.net [205.244.161.46]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA10130; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 10:05:32 -0600 Message-Id: <199701011605.KAA10130@Stormbringer.InterL.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jason Englander" To: jint711@netcom.com (Jint) Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 10:09:32 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Using Pine 3.94 with POP3 CC: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Priority: normal In-reply-to: X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) Jint, > I haven't tried it yet, but in one of the Linux groups someone posted: > > inbox-path={/110}INBOX > > Basically the same as what you posted, except I don't see a field named > "Remote Inbox" in pine's configuration menu. I wonder if adding that line > directly into the .pinerc and setting inbox-path to a local mail folder > would allow pine to use both POP3 and local mail successfully. > > The thing I fear about setting the inbox-path to the POP3 is that pine > will probably scream that the inbox doesn't exist if you go into it while > your PPP connection is down. > > Once again, I didn't try this yet, but I will when I get home. If you leave the 'normal' inbox the way it is (reading mail from /usr/spool/mail/username), but you enable incoming folders (one of the many checkboxes in Pine's setup), then you add that part under the Incoming-Folders= field. Incoming-Folders="POP Account #1" {mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX, "POP Account #2" {mail.otherisp.com/pop3}INBOX, "POP Account #3" {mail.1234.org}INBOX This way, using incoming folders, you can still have the INBOX folder in Pine, _and_ a folder to read mail directly from the pop3 server. If you use the format that you saw in that Linux newsgroup, your INBOX folder (now /usr/spool/mail/username) will be replaced by {mail.yourisp.com/pop3}INBOX and it will bitch when you start Pine that it can't access that folder. As far as using {/110}INBOX instead of {/pop3}INBOX - you might want to go with the 2nd one. Not every ISP uses port 110 for pop3. Jason -- Jason Englander InterLink L.C. jasoneng@interl.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 09:11:34 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:11:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA06235 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:11:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA18142 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 09:06:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA18136 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 09:06:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfU1a-00038xC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 09:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: PINE for SGI/IRIX 5.3 Date: 30 Dec 1996 18:42:54 GMT Message-ID: <5a92fe$efn$1@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <32C80420.2781@maroon.tc.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <32C80420.2781@maroon.tc.umn.edu>, korio001@maroon.tc.umn.edu writes: > Please help. > Where can I download the pine/pico binaries from SGI boxes? Please try http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/test.html where Pine3.94 and Pico2.9 are available for Irix 5.3 machines. Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == www.uc.edu/~yuanj = Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = using Knews (Irix5.3) == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 11:12:39 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:12:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA07541 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:12:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA21637 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 11:06:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA21633 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 11:06:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfVv0-00038zC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 11:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: voldemar@sagantec.co.il (Vladimir A. Pertsel) Subject: remote SMTP or NNTP connection hangs solaris.x86 in pine Date: 30 Dec 1996 07:07:35 GMT Message-ID: <5a7pnn$mjd@news.NetVision.net.il> The problem is as follows: If You run pine on Solaris.x86 it works perfectly until You set smtp-server=. Then it hangs the system perfectly when You try to send the letter. It can be revived by reset button only. The same thing with nntp-server=, but it hangs the computer when You try to read the news. I have looked through the archives and have noticed, that someone has reported the problem with the TCP connection on Solaris.x86. Was that problem solved? -- From the Holy Land, with respect /\ /\ Vladimir A. Pertsel S/W engineer ((ovo)) E-mail: \|/ Sagantec Israel ():::() voldemar@sagantec.co.il (o o) tel.972-4-8572781 --PVA------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------ an ancestor of mine by the name of Noah was once the commanding admiral of the combined fleets of my planet. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 14:24:14 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:24:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA09425 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA24520 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:17:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.135]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA24514 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:17:19 -0800 Received: from rac2.wam.umd.edu (sehlin@rac2.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.102]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.8.3/8.8.0) with ESMTP id RAA26139 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:17:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (sehlin@localhost) by rac2.wam.umd.edu (8.8.3/8.8.0) with SMTP id RAA15452 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:17:14 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac2.wam.umd.edu: sehlin owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:17:14 -0500 (EST) From: suzanne m ehlin Reply-To: suzanne m ehlin To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am having a problem getting into my mail. Everytime I log on I get thios message saying read only and I can't get it or any of my other mail. I am not evn sure I will be able to get a response from you. It says something about bin@wam.umd.edu. I would really like to know if you have any idea about thius, you can reach me at 301-881-6305. I am not sure I will be able to get a message from you! Please help me! Thanks sue From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 14:42:36 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:42:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA09655 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:42:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA23355 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:36:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA23351 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 14:36:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfZ9Q-00038yC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 14:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stephen Lane Subject: .sig at end? Date: 28 Dec 1996 08:02:35 GMT Message-ID: <5a2k6r$atk@news.preferred.com> hi, i'm a relatively new user of pine (3 months), and i have a simple problem/question. when i reply to a message, my .sig appears -above- the quoted message, rather than below. my sysadmin says he's always seen this behavior, but i think it's kinda wacky (elm always put the .sig at the end). anything i can do about this? i'm a very experienced unix user, if that helps any. and yes, i did read pinerc and the FAQ :). thanks for any help, Steve -- Steve Lane Preferred Internet, Inc. of East Tennessee and Southwest Virginia From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 16:24:48 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:24:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA10602 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:24:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA26291 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 16:18:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA26287 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 16:17:51 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 02 Jan 97 01:17:41 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id BAA01358; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:11:51 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:11:51 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: Stephen Lane cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: .sig at end? In-Reply-To: <5a2k6r$atk@news.preferred.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 28 Dec 1996, Stephen Lane wrote: >hi, i'm a relatively new user of pine (3 months), and i have >a simple problem/question. when i reply to a message, my >.sig appears -above- the quoted message, rather than below. >my sysadmin says he's always seen this behavior, but i think >it's kinda wacky (elm always put the .sig at the end). >anything i can do about this? i'm a very experienced unix ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >user, if that helps any. and yes, i did read pinerc and >the FAQ :). thanks for any help, Steve [censored] less .pinerc reveals this: ############################### Preferences ################################ # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom # Default condition for all of the features is no-. ############################### Preferences ################################ # List of features; see Pine's Setup/options menu for the current set. # e.g. feature-list= select-without-confirm, signature-at-bottom ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ less secrets.txt -> * The "signature-at-bottom" feature only applies to Replies. It is not possible to force your signature to the bottom of the included text in a Forward. Enjoy. Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 17:33:09 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:33:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA11177 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:33:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA27309 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:27:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA27305 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:27:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfbnl-00038yC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 17:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: MANDREWS@Wittenberg.EDU (Mike Andrews) Subject: Weird problem with Pine 3.95 and HP-UX 9.04 Date: 29 Dec 1996 06:41:07 GMT Message-ID: I've got a bizarre problem with Pine 3.95 on an HP-UX 9.04 box (a 9000/856). In short, when I start it up: Creating subdirectory "/users/mandrews//users/mandrews/mail" where Pine will store its mail folders. Error creating subdirectory "/users/mandrews//users/mandrews/mail" : No such file or directory and of course it quits. This is happening even with the "pine-bin.hpux9" precompiled binary pulled from the U Washington site... though I tried building my own using both gcc 2.7.2 and the lobotomized /bin/cc first. This machine currently has a copy of Pine 3.91 that came prebuilt from some FTP site I don't remember (because I wasn't the one that installed it) that works -- but if I recompile 3.91 myself, it too has problems finding my home directory. Hmm... This has to be something REALLY simple, but it's driving me nuts. :) (e-mail responses preferred...) -- -- Mike Andrews - mandrews@wittenberg.edu, mandrews@termfrost.org (NeXT) -- Programmer/Analyst, systems/mail/web/netnews guy, Wittenberg University -- http://www.termfrost.org/ "The truth is, you never find the truth." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 17:55:52 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:55:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA11422 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:55:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA26081 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:49:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from netcom15.netcom.com (netcom15.netcom.com [192.100.81.128]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA26077 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:49:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (jint711@localhost) by netcom15.netcom.com (8.6.13/Netcom) id RAA09182; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:49:43 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 17:49:43 -0800 (PST) From: Jint X-Sender: jint711@netcom15 To: Jason Englander cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Pine 3.94 with POP3 In-Reply-To: <199701011605.KAA10130@Stormbringer.InterL.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jan 1997, Jason Englander wrote: > > If you leave the 'normal' inbox the way it is (reading mail from > /usr/spool/mail/username), but you enable incoming folders (one of > the many checkboxes in Pine's setup), then you add that part under > the Incoming-Folders= field. > > Incoming-Folders="POP Account #1" {mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX, > "POP Account #2" {mail.otherisp.com/pop3}INBOX, > "POP Account #3" {mail.1234.org}INBOX > > This way, using incoming folders, you can still have the INBOX folder > in Pine, _and_ a folder to read mail directly from the pop3 server. > If you use the format that you saw in that Linux newsgroup, your > INBOX folder (now /usr/spool/mail/username) will be replaced by > {mail.yourisp.com/pop3}INBOX and it will bitch when you start Pine > that it can't access that folder. > > As far as using {/110}INBOX instead of > {/pop3}INBOX - you might want to go with the 2nd one. > Not every ISP uses port 110 for pop3. Thanks for the very informative reply, Jason. :) I never did get around to try to access my POP3 with Pine since I ended up downloading fetchmail and using that instead. Fetchmail picks up the mail from my POP3 and then you can do whatever you want with it after that. I'm going to be doing procmail stuff and routing mail to different inboxes, so fetchmail seems to be the better solution for me. I haven't configured it in daemon mode yet, so far I've just been executing it manually as such: fetchmail -u -p POP3 By default, it puts the mail that it fetches into /var/spool/mail/ Then I fire-up pine and read my mail. :) I'd recommend fetchmail for anyone accessing mail over a PPP connection from a *NIX box. It comes with very clear docs and practically sets itself up. Where to get fetchmail: ftp://ftp.ccil.org/pub/esr/fetchmail Cheers! _____________________________________________________________________ jint711@netcom.com Jint Systems Analyst for Tony_Guinta@Paramount.com ~~~~ Paramount Pictures |-| () |_ |_ `/ \/\/ () () |) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 18:32:23 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:32:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA11732 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:32:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA26664 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:27:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA26660 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 18:27:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfclE-00038zC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 18:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: .sig at end? Date: 28 Dec 1996 15:24:03 GMT Message-ID: <5a3e2j$b7a@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <5a2k6r$atk@news.preferred.com> Stephen Lane writes: >hi, i'm a relatively new user of pine (3 months), and i have >a simple problem/question. when i reply to a message, my >.sig appears -above- the quoted message, rather than below. >my sysadmin says he's always seen this behavior, but i think >it's kinda wacky (elm always put the .sig at the end). Your sysadmin sounds kind of clueless. >anything i can do about this? i'm a very experienced unix >user, if that helps any. and yes, i did read pinerc and >the FAQ :). thanks for any help, Steve While in pine, go to the main menu, type 's', then 'c', then read all the wonderful config options. You will find one of them does what you are looking for. >-- >Steve Lane >Preferred Internet, Inc. of East Tennessee and Southwest Virginia -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 19:54:20 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 19:54:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA12457 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 19:54:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA29270 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 19:47:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA29266 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 19:47:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfe4L-00038yC; Wed, 1 Jan 97 19:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Pine as Mail Editor in Lynx Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 11:39:20 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5a387f$o4d@news.huji.ac.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5a387f$o4d@news.huji.ac.il> On 28 Dec 1996, Alexander Virtser wrote: > I tried to put pine as e-mail editor in Lynx, but when I write some > comment to some Home Page owner, I get something like this: > To: HGDS/DJHD/hgwd@math.bgu.ac.il Properly speaking, Pine is not an editor at all, and if you specified it as an editor to Lynx, I am not surprised you got a mess. On the other hand, Pine's internal composer has been split out as a genuine editor called Pico. Try specifying Pico to Lynx instead of Pine. > Why? How can I make Pine to write in the To: entry the e-mail address of > the Home Page owner? If the home page has been set up correctly by the owner, this should be taken care of automatically. You shouldn't need to fill in anything. All you need the editor for is to compose the message, not the headers. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 21:54:12 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:54:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA13603 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA01019 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 21:47:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from one (one.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA01015 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 21:47:49 -0800 Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca by one (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id XAA20688; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 23:47:20 -0600 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 23:47:02 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: Paul O Bartlett cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine as Mail Editor in Lynx In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Properly speaking, Pine is not an editor at all, and if you > specified it as an editor to Lynx, I am not surprised you got a mess. > On the other hand, Pine's internal composer has been split out as a > genuine editor called Pico. Try specifying Pico to Lynx instead of > Pine. Yet our Freenet has somehow rigged it so Pine is invoked whenever a mailer is needed. How did they do this? Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 22:33:16 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:33:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA13892 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:33:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA29735 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:27:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA29731 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:27:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfgUO-000391C; Wed, 1 Jan 97 22:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Alan J. Flavell" Subject: Re: US-ASCII vs. ISO-8895 In-Reply-To: <5abnem$5tk@hermes.acs.unt.edu> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Message-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT References: <32c83a15.4437967@news.pconline.com> <5a9407$c75@hermes.acs.unt.edu> <5abnem$5tk@hermes.acs.unt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 20:01:18 GMT On 31 Dec 1996, Thomas Fritz Ramm wrote: > Alan J. Flavell (flavell@mail.cern.ch) wrote: > > It will indeed get rid of the warning. But the warning is there for a > > reason. If your terminal emulation is not, in fact, set for iso-8859-1 > > then it may cause the display of the incoming mail to be corrupted. > Not only will it get rid of the warning but it also lets pine display > ISO-8859-1 characters correctly. Only if the terminal emulation is also set for iso-8859-1. Which is what I already said. > I used to receive e-mail from Europe that > included some of those special European letters (äÇöß etc.) and Pine would > not display them until I added ISO-8859-1 to the character set field in Pine > setup. This only demonstrates that your terminal emulation was already set up for iso-8859-1. So, you don't have the problem that I was describing. But it's not such a good idea to recommend that to another, without explaining to them the issues that are involved. Could be that their terminal emulation is set to 7-bit US-ASCII, or maybe to DEC Multinational, or IBM Codepage 850, whatever. > All the English letters and numbers are included in ISO-8859-1. There > is no problem composing in English when using ISO-8859-1. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Of course not. That was precisely my point. You have to be using iso-8859-1 (in your terminal emulation) if you want to configure it into PINE. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Thu Jan 2 23:04:51 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:04:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA14213 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 23:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA01974 for pine-info-out; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:58:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA01968 for ; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:58:51 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA12342; Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:58:48 -0800 Date: Wed, 1 Jan 1997 22:58:47 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: "James L. McGill" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Large folders take long to close In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII James, I don't have any immediate thoughts on the closing delays, but yes, you can access MH folders. See the Pine tech notes for details; the folder collection spec includes #MH/ but I forget the exact syntax. -teg On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, James L. McGill wrote: > Pine 3.95 under Linux 2.0.27. > I noticed this as far back as the > 3.7x pine versions, but attributed it > to my slow computers. > > I notice that you mention the default mail folder > format. Do tell... can I use Pine with MH folders? > Can they be mixed? (e.g., inbox can be the default > format, but mailing lists can be mh folders?) > > Thanks! > > ------------------------+---------------------------------------------- > James L. McGill | NETCOM Interactive > Programmer / Analyst | Dallas, Texas > | -=[ http://www.conservatory.com/~fishbowl ]=- > ------------------------+---------------------------------------------- > Parts that positively cannot be assembled in improper order will be. > > > On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Terry Gray wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 08:43:50 -0800 () > > From: Terry Gray > > To: "James L. McGill" > > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > > Subject: Re: Large folders take long to close > > > > What version of Pine are you using? What OS? (I'll assume you're using > > the default Bky mail folder format.) > > > > -teg > > > > On 27 Dec 1996, James L. McGill wrote: > > > > > Even on a very, very fast machine, with a very, very large > > > amount of RAM, large folders (e.g., 2 months worth of linux-kernel@vger), > > > take a long, long time to close. They open quickly, but when I want to > > > change to another folder, it takes a very long time to close 'this' one. > > > > > > I'm talking about tens of seconds for approx. 2500 messages. > > > > > > -- > > > g-r-a-t-e-f-u-l-l-y---[ email: ]---l-i-v-i-n-g > > > d-e-a-d-i-c-a-t-e-d---[ http://www.conservatory.com/~fishbowl ]-----l-i-g-h-t > > > Every program has (at least) two purposes: the one for which it was > > > written and another for which it wasn't. > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 3 01:54:16 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:54:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA15513 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:54:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA02615 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:48:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA02611 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:48:33 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:47:21 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA19319; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:48:29 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:48:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Al Byers cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using -i option In-Reply-To: <32B7FE9F.76D7@cfw.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Firstly, please try to be a little careful when writing comman line options in your messages to prevent confusing others... "-i" is _not_ the "initial keystrokes option" but is instead "start Pine in the Index Screen". The option you are really referring to is "-I" (ie, capital i). You can enter various "unusual" keystrokes in the -I option's list of keystrokes using English mnemonics. I enclose a list below culled from the pine/init.c source code file's "process_init_cmds" function (in which, if you have the source code too, you could presumably have found them too:-) SPACE (Space) CR (Return) TAB (Tab) ^char (Control+char) F1...F12 (function keys F1 through F12) f1...f12 (ditto) UP (Up arrow) DOWN (Down arrow) LEFT (Left arrow) RIGHT (Right arrow) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 18 Dec 1996, Al Byers wrote: > I periodically perform this exercise in frustration by asking if anyone > can tell me how to tab from one header field to the next using the > initial keystroke option, -i. From the console, the tab or enter key > works fine, but I cannot find a way to embed those keystrokes in my > keystroke list. I can get into the compose mode all right, but then it > interprets everything as an address. > -- > Al Byers Automation Group of Virginia, Inc. > byersa@cfw.com P.O. Box 1091 > 540.949.8777 Waynesboro, VA 22980 > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 3 01:59:35 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:59:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA15538 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:59:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA02670 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:53:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA02666 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:53:55 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:52:36 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA19678; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:53:39 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:53:39 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Adam Vardy cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Print folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Please help us to help you by including what version number of Pine you are using and which platform (type of computer) it is for. It _does_ help! Anyway, your message included the following "Message-Id:" header line: Message-ID: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ from which I'm _assuming_ you're using Pine 3.91 for OSF. So... Firstly you will need to upgrade to the current version of Pine (3.95), which is available through anonymous ftp from ftp.cac.washington.edu. Having got this set up you will then need to go into its Setup Configuration screen and enable the "print-index-enabled" option. Having done both of these you can then use the print command in the Index screen to print either the index itself or the current message (you get to choose which after giving the Print command). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 20 Dec 1996, Adam Vardy wrote: > > Is it not possible to print the Pine folder Index? As in all the screens > of the Inbox. I thought before that Y would do this, but apparently not. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Fri Jan 3 02:03:35 1997 -0800 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:03:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA15582 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:03:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA04187 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:57:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA04183 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 01:57:30 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:56:16 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA19928; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:57:25 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:57:24 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Tim Porter cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: Using expanded-view-of-addressbooks ??? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Sorry, but Pine's "expanded-view-of-addressbooks" is an all or nothing affair. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 23 Dec 1996, Tim Porter wrote: > > Hello! > > I am using Pine 3.95 on a Sun Solaris 2.5.1 system. > > I want to set up a number of global addressbooks for our users. I would > like users' personal addressbooks to be expanded automatically when they > enter the addressbook screen, but not the global addressbooks. > > There is an option in the Pine setup called expanded-view-of-addressbooks, > but as far as I can tell this can only be applied to all of the > addressbooks in the addressbook screen, not individual ones. > > Does anyone know a way of only expanding certain addressbooks > automatically, or am I asking for too much?? > > Many thanks, > > Tim > > --- > Tim Porter | t.porter@fcrd.gov.uk > Forestry Commission, | "Unless stated otherwise, all opinions > Research Division, UK | expressed are my own, not those of my employer" > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:12:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA15654 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:12:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA04359 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:05:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04355 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:05:44 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:04:23 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA20394; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:05:31 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:05:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Thomas Jess Bowers cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Q: Auto sort newsgroups In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" And just to add to the Paul's response... * The "$O" command (or "Ordered Subject" sort key) is better for sorting newsgroups than just "$S" ("Subject" sort). Ordered subject sorting sorts first by subject text and then by date, thereby arranging articles sharing a subject into posting order instead of merely the order in which they arrived on your news server (often different!:-) * The "sort-key" variable in the Setup Configuration screen affects all types of folders: both Usenet News and normal (mail and/or news). You cannot have different defaults for News and normal folders. If you want different sorting methods for the two types of folder decide which sorting method you will use most frequently and set the default to that one, and give "$blah" command manually for the other type of folders. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Paul O Bartlett wrote: > On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Thomas Jess Bowers wrote: > > > How do I set pine to sort newsgroups by subject every time I open a group? > > I'm looking for a way to automate the $S key sequence and can't find the > > appropriate help screen. TIA, > > Simple enough. Just set the sort-key in your personal > configuration to sort by subject. That's pretty basic. If > you don't know how to do that, start with the online help from > the Main Menu. > > Paul > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA > Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key > Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:26:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA15749 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:26:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA04534 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:20:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04530 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:20:33 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:19:20 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA22516; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:20:28 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:20:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "James L. McGill" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MH-style folders? In-Reply-To: <5a1cnq$27h@fotd.netcomi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Yes, Pine will handle MH style folders. A couple of provisos: * Pine must have been compiled to include the MH mailbox driver module (it gets this included by default, so you probably don't have any worries on this front). * You must name the folder properly when telling Pine its name. This involves including a magic "#mh" at the approproiate point in its name. You can find details by: 1. Start Pine 2. Give the List Folders (L) command 3. Ask for help (?) These help screens tell you about the List Folders screen and, further down, about naming folders when specifying them to Pine. (Note that the "#mh" string is NOT part of the filename on disk, just part of the specification string you give to Pine to identify the folder.) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 27 Dec 1996, James L. McGill wrote: > Is it possible to use MH style folders with pine? > I am interested in using procmail's capability to > write to MH folders, but I suspect that Pine is not > able to deal with them :-( > > -- > g-r-a-t-e-f-u-l-l-y---[ email: ]---l-i-v-i-n-g > d-e-a-d-i-c-a-t-e-d---[ http://www.conservatory.com/~fishbowl ]-----l-i-g-h-t > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:32:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA15878 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:32:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA04582 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:26:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04578 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 02:26:27 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:24:44 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA22777; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:25:49 GMT Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:25:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: rjk@beta.loyno.edu cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: subscribe In-Reply-To: <5a1eod$jt8@news.dgsys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I suspect that Russell's problem is really just that he sent his "subscribe" message to the wrong e-mail address... Majordomo@cac.washington.edu is th e-mail address for joining/leaving lists, whilst pine-info@cac.washington.edu is the list itself (anything you send to it gets e-mail to all the other members of the list). So I believe you want to send a message to Majordomo@cac.washington.edu saying subscribe pine-info The Majordomo software will deduce your e-mail address and name from the content of the headers of your message. For more details about subscribing see: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/subscribing.html Note that the Pine-Info mailing list is bi-directionally gatewayed to the comp.mail.pine Usenet News group. So if you prefer reading the articles through News rather than having them delivered to your mailbox you can do so. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 27 Dec 1996, Paul B. Brown wrote: > Not quite, big guy! Try sending this to a mailing list instead of Usenet. > Also a better format would be: > > subscribe pine-info > > OR > > subscribe pine-info rjk@beta.loyno.edu > > Majordomo does not understand how to send e-mail to "Russell Johnson" but > does know how to send to "rjk@beta.loyno.edu". > > Luck . . . . > > Paul > > In article , > rkj@beta.loyno.edu (Russell Johnson) writes: > > > subscribe pine-info Russell Johnson > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:43:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA19080 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA07284 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 07:35:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from one (one.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA07280 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 07:35:03 -0800 Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca by one (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA06183; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:35:00 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:34:23 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Completely Blank Messages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's happened twice now in the past twelve hours, and while it's no big deal, it is curious to me. Twice, in the last twelve hours, I have come across an entirely blank message: no header, no date, nothing. Even a tap of the H command for the full header information reveals absolutely nothing. What does a completely blank message like this mean? Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:42:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA21085 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:42:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA10450 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 08:34:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA10446 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 08:34:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfq5c-00038nC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 08:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Timo Newton-Syms Subject: Changing user id in Pine Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 23:46:04 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is is possible to change the user id in Pine? Currently all my mail says it comes from tns96@vsonic.fi, as that is my login, but how can I change it to tns@vsonic.fi? I can change the domain, but that's of no use to me. Thanks for any help. Timo ___ ___ ' ) . __ __ ___ / / / ) ) / ) -------------.------------------------. / (_/ (_(__ /.... | Timo Newton-Syms | | Helsinki, Finland | |---R-o-l-l-i-n'--D-r-u-m--&--B-a-s-s-- ----------| | http://www.virtual-pc.com/timo/home Part of the W2-S Group | `----------------------------------------------------------------' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:38:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA22540 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA12010 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:30:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from access4.digex.net (access4.digex.net [205.197.245.195]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA12003 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 09:30:13 -0800 Received: from localhost (pobart@localhost) by access4.digex.net (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA15385; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 12:24:44 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 12:24:42 -0500 (EST) From: Paul O Bartlett X-Sender: pobart@access4.digex.net To: Bruce Toews cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine as Mail Editor in Lynx In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: Express Access Private Account MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 1 Jan 1997, Bruce Toews wrote: > > Properly speaking, Pine is not an editor at all, and if you > > specified it as an editor to Lynx, I am not surprised you got a mess. > > On the other hand, Pine's internal composer has been split out as a > > genuine editor called Pico. Try specifying Pico to Lynx instead of > > Pine. > > Yet our Freenet has somehow rigged it so Pine is invoked whenever a mailer > is needed. How did they do this? My best guess is that your Freenet is running some flavor of the Un*x operating system and that when you login, you get what is called a restricted shell. In other words, instead of having access to all facilities, you have access to only a restricted set of facilities, and it is set up so that Pine starts up automatically (this is easily accomplished by an administrator). I think this sort of thing is fairly common in freenets. In short, they are only providing a restricted set of functions, and that's all you get. In a manner of speaking, you may be confined to a box. Just how big the box is and how porous its walls are, I don't know. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:38:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA24171 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:38:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA12020 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:34:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA12012 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 10:34:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfrv0-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 10:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pau Gorostiza Subject: Terminal type ? Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 18:46:18 +0000 Message-ID: <32C95F7A.F6@giga.sct.ub.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I was using PINE on Linux, which has been recently upgraded to Linux 2.0.0. But now I get this message when I try to run PINE: Terminal type "vt220", is unknown. Is it a Linux problem, or PINE, or just "mine" ? I couldn't find any references to this in Linux manual or PINE configurations... Thanks in advance, Pau From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:09:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA25068 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:09:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA14815 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:04:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA14805 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:04:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfsMh-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 10:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matt Hamilton Subject: ipop3d and $HOME/Mailbox Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 13:44:00 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear All, I want to store users mail in their home dirs and now I want to use ipop3d to retrieve mail from there. Is this possible? I don't want to have to use qpopper as I don't like it very much and don't trust it very much. Plus I like the IMAP<->POP3 features of ipop3d. -Matt ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Matt Hamilton Clintondale Aviation matt@clintondale.com http://www.clintondale.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:15:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA25187 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:15:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA13157 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:11:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA13149 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:11:43 -0800 Received: from localhost (petek@localhost) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA09466 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:12:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:12:02 -0500 (EST) From: Pete Koning To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: State of interrupted compositions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Quickly, we are running Pine 3.95 under Solaris. Here is the scenario I would like an answer on: /1/ While a user is composing a message, her time-limit is reached and our system logs her out. When she next logs in will she be able to: (a) resume her interupted message, or is her message (b) lost forever? /pete ----------------------------------------------------------------- Pete Koning petek@freenet.hamilton.on.ca System Administration Ph:(905)528-4936 Hamilton-Wentworth Freenet Fx:(905)528-7578 ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:31:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA25595 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:31:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA13557 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:24:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA13553 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:24:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfsgW-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 11:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Kramer Subject: Re: monthly FAQ? Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:13:54 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: That is being done, around the middle of each month; last time was on Dec. 16th. See, for example (November's posting), URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/96.11/msg00379.html ------------------------------------------------------------ Stefan Kramer skramer@cac.washington.edu University of Washington Computing & Communications ------------------------------------------------------------ On 30 Dec 1996, Robin S. Socha wrote: # Because of the many easily answered questions in the last few days, was # wondering if it might make sense to mail the FAQ on a monthly basis. # # Just my 2 cents. # # Cheers, # Robin # # # ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ # Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 # Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 # 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de # ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ # On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" # ... so I got myself Linux. # ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ # # # # From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:43:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA25900 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:43:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA13967 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:37:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from simd01.md.ucl.ac.be (simd01.md.ucl.ac.be [130.104.5.110]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA13962 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:37:47 -0800 Received: from student.md.ucl.ac.be by simd01.md.ucl.ac.be (8.7.3/SMI-4.1(MX version)) id UAA00767; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:37:19 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:34:27 -0800 (PST) From: Abel Francois 20649500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Reading and posting internet news X-Sender: abel@simd01.md.ucl.ac.be Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've got a problem reading and posting internet news on my 3.91 version of Pine. there's no "news-collection" in my folder list ! What can I do ? Francois ABEL From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:48:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA26021 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:48:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA15882 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:42:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA15874 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 11:42:08 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 02 Jan 97 20:41:20 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA00505; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:35:11 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:35:11 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: Pau Gorostiza cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Terminal type ? In-Reply-To: <32C95F7A.F6@giga.sct.ub.es> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Pau Gorostiza wrote: On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Pau Gorostiza wrote: >Hi, I was using PINE on Linux, which has been recently upgraded to Linux >2.0.0. But now I get this message when I try to run PINE: > > Terminal type "vt220", is unknown. > >Is it a Linux problem, or PINE, or just "mine" ? I couldn't find any >references to this in Linux manual or PINE configurations... Actually, I've no idea what exactly goes wrong, but you might want to check the TERM option. Unix Pine uses the following environment variables: TERM Tells Pine what kind of terminal is being used. Please refer to the attached technotes for further detail. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:45:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA28706 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:45:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA18829 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:39:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA18825 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:39:52 -0800 Received: from homer15.u.washington.edu (homer15.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.16]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA19204 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:38:59 -0800 Received: from localhost (sky@localhost) by homer15.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA103364 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:39:51 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 13:39:51 -0800 (PST) From: Pat Caver To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do I close out my e-mail service? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Today is my last day. I am moving off campus to work in another position. How do I disengage my e-mail at the end of the day? Pat Pat Caver sky@cofs.washington.edu http://www.cofs.washington.edu Phone: (206) 685-1457 FAX: (206) 543 6393 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:13:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA31424 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:13:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA21151 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:07:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailer.syr.edu (mailer.syr.edu [128.230.20.20]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA21147 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:07:42 -0800 Received: from forbin.syr.edu by mailer.syr.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.0a) with SMTP id DA80C5B0 ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:07:45 -0500 Received: from localhost (pjwasho@localhost) by forbin.syr.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA22950 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:07:41 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: forbin.syr.edu: pjwasho owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:07:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Paul J. Washo" X-Sender: pjwasho@forbin.syr.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Please lend a hand here! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It seems something's gone awry with the Spell Check feature in my files here . . . perhaps as a result of my own fumbled key strokes while composing a message. Can get Spell checking to "kick-in", but it now takes an unusually long time to complete checking on very brief messages, then spits out an indicator something akin to "user fork failed" and "too many processes". What have I done wrong? More importantly, how can I make it right again. Thanks in advance for your assistance. pjwasho@mailbox.syr.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:09:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA32731 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:09:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA22262 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:49:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA22258 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:49:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfwrw-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 15:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Burgh Subject: Re: pine 3.95 sent-mail doesn't work. Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:52:15 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Never mind. I found it. =) On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Eric Burgh wrote: > > I've noticed that now that we've switched to 3.95 pine doesn't save my > sent messages in the sent-mail folder. I checked all the options in the > config and didn't seem to find the appropriate feature. Am I missing > something simple? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eric B. Burgh e-mail: musashi@pha.jhu.edu > Department of Physics and Astronomy ebb@jhu.edu > The Johns Hopkins University http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~musashi > Baltimore, Maryland Office: x4123 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "From one thing know ten thousand things."--Miyamoto Musashi, Gorin No Sho > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric B. Burgh e-mail: musashi@pha.jhu.edu Department of Physics and Astronomy ebb@jhu.edu The Johns Hopkins University http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~musashi Baltimore, Maryland Office: x4123 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "From one thing know ten thousand things."--Miyamoto Musashi, Gorin No Sho --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:40:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA00818 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA23707 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:35:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA23703 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:35:54 -0800 Received: from homer01.u.washington.edu (homer01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.11]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA11878 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:33:57 -0800 Received: from localhost (jbolz@localhost) by homer01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA47256 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:35:53 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 16:35:53 -0800 (PST) From: Jane Bolz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Forwarded msg doesn't "wrap" correctly Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Pine: One of my users noticed this, and I don't know if there are any variables in Pine's setup/Config which will "fix" this or not. The situation is this: The original email looks fine on the screen, with the line-wraps working fine, but when a reply or forward is invoked, the lines don't wrap anymore and become too-long strings with the $ character at the end. This is happening when Jerry sends the email, so I've included the message so you can see an example. Is there any setting to "fix" or update??? Thanks, Jane ........................................................ . . . Jane Bolz | jbolz@u.washington.edu . . Publications Services | vmail (206) 543-7868 . . Computer Support | . . Box 359010 | . . Seattle, WA 98195-9010 | . . . ......................................................... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 19 Dec 1996 13:22:59 -0800 From: "Jerald L. Boesch" To: "'Bolz, Jane'" , "'Druliner, Dan'" , "'Fairman, Jeff'" , "'Kuhn, Mark'" , "'Ramey, Kellie McComas'" Subject: Mtg ... Tue 1/7 I would like to get everyone together on Tuesday 1/7 to review all IS projects and activities. 10:00 in the front conference room OK? Let me know. Jer. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Jerry Boesch - IS Manager (206) 543-3845 Publications Services boescj@u.washington.edu University of Washington Box 359000 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:46:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA02181 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA25291 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:41:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA25281 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 17:41:33 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:40:38 +0800 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:40:38 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Pete Koning cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: State of interrupted compositions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Pete Koning wrote: > Quickly, > we are running Pine 3.95 under Solaris. Here is the scenario I would > like an answer on: > /1/ While a user is composing a message, her time-limit is reached > and our system logs her out. When she next logs in will she be able to: > (a) resume her interupted message, > or is her message > (b) lost forever? Most likely "a". Howerver, I suggest you do the following since not all systems react the same.... 1. Login to the system. 2. Start composing a message with pine. 3. Walk away from the terminal (or whatever) and have a cup of coffee and a danish. (Wait until you get logged off....) 4. Login to the system again. 5. Try composing a message with pine. Do you get a message saying you have a postponed message? Some people would call this a "diagnostic" others would call it "testing". I like to call it, TIY..."Try it Yourself". Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:18:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA02667 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:18:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA24540 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:15:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA24536 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 18:15:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vfz6m-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 18:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: red@redpoll.mrfs.oh.us (Richard E. Depew) Subject: ignore: Re: .sig at end? Control: cancel <5a4h4k$5b2@nr1.vancouver.istar.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 19:58:16 GMT Cleaning up spew from broken gateway at nr1.vancouver.istar.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:35:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA03883 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:35:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA27553 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:30:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA27549 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 20:30:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg1Gr-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 20:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sef@kithrup.com Subject: cmsg cancel <5acjso$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Date: 1 Jan 1997 04:34:46 GMT Control: cancel <5acjso$5g3@chile.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Spam cancelled by sef@kithrup.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:16:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA04155 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:16:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA26605 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:10:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA26601 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:10:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg1ri-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 21:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Subject: cmsg cancel <5absl8$7iq@newman.pcisys.net> Date: 1 Jan 1997 02:25:05 GMT Control: cancel <5absl8$7iq@newman.pcisys.net> Message-ID: Spam cancelled. 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Original Subject: 32meg 70ns 72pin EDO simm for $140 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:16:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA04141 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:16:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA28072 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:10:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA28068 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:10:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg1sB-00038nC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 21:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Subject: cmsg cancel <5absl9$7iq@newman.pcisys.net> Date: 1 Jan 1997 02:25:06 GMT Control: cancel <5absl9$7iq@newman.pcisys.net> Message-ID: Spam cancelled. 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Original Subject: 32meg 70ns 72pin EDO simm for $140 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:33:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA04260 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA26849 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:30:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA26845 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 21:30:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg2Bs-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 21:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Howie Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: 3 Jan 1997 05:12:41 GMT Message-ID: <5ai4g9$g52@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> mwu@crl.com (Matt Wu) writes: > >It'd be treat if PINE or elm could read from POP servers, but I don't >think they can. As an aside, there is a Unix POP client called "mutt" - do a Web or Archie search for it. Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Listserv Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:40:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA04879 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:40:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA29191 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:35:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA29187 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:35:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg3Bn-00038kC; Thu, 2 Jan 97 22:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Dana Booth Subject: Pine-os2 problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <32CC789C.5398@eskimo.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:10:20 GMT I have a problem with pine-os2, it won't seem to properly write a message-id; it leaves everything off after the '@', so the message id's look something like '<000000.00000@> The pinerc file is proper, and has all of the appropriate domain names and all that happy crap. Has anyone ever used the os/2 port, and if you have, ever experienced this? -- ---------------------------- Dana Booth ---------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:45:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA04913 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:45:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA29272 for pine-info-out; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:42:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA29268 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:42:12 -0800 Received: from dante25.u.washington.edu (dante25.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.99]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA06244 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:41:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (tschultz@localhost) by dante25.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA54848 for ; Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:42:11 -0800 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 22:42:11 -0800 (PST) From: Teresa Kimberly Schultz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printing problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a new printer, an HP Deskjet 693C and I can't seem to print anything with it. I was printing before with my Panasonic KXP 1180 printer with no problems. Help. Traci From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 00:24:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA05526 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 00:24:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA29080 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 00:20:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA29076 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 00:20:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg4rB-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 00:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: automatic response upon receiving mail? Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 19:09:49 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Dwight Wilkins wrote: > A user recently asked how to have pine automatically > reply to pine, the example was if the user is on gone for an extended > time, the sender would receive a message that the user will be back in a > month, etc. How exactly would I do this? Pine will not do this. It is not designed to. Your user needs to invoke some facility which will do this _before_ Pine enters the picture, as part of the mail delivery process. How to do it will vary according to what operating the incoming mail will be processed on. For Un*x systems, you can use .vacation or procmail. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:51:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA06033 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA29985 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:46:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA29981 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:46:37 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:45:15 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA06984; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:46:20 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:46:20 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Matt Hamilton cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: ipop3d and $HOME/Mailbox In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Yes, it is possible, although you may have to recompile the C-client library to include an extra mailbox driver, then relink Pine and imapd against the library. If this doesn't fill you with fear read on... There are certainly at least two routes open to you: one uses the "standard" ("Berkeley") mailbox format to store the INBOX folder (this is called the "mbox" driver); whilst the other uses a different format called Tenex (the "Tenex" driver). Tenex is included by default in the C-client library, so if you decide to use this one you won't need to recompile anything. The mbox driver isn't included as standard. You can add it by setting the EXTRADRIVERS variable in the "build" script (or is it in a Makefile? I forget!) to "mbox". I _believe_ you can also do it when you give the "build" command simply by changing this to: build xxx EXTRADRIVERS=mbox where "xxx" is your usual three character platform code. So which to choose - mbox or Tenex? (The following thoughts are purely personal observations; they may be added to/reversed by Others Who Know More Than I.) If you are already using the Berkeley mailbox format for your folders and are happy with its performance then you should probably use the mbox driver as this will keep things simple for you. If you are wanting a bit more "oomph" from your mail server you may like to consider the Tenex format. This is much more efficient in its memory use because Tenex messages are a fixed size (whereas Berkeley ones can change size as their status flags are added/altered). This fixed size allows the Tenex driver to build an in-memory index into where the messages are in the folder and access them from there; the Berkeley driver has to read the whole folder into memory and keep it there. There are a couple of Gotchas with the Tenex driver though: * For locking to work properly your Tenex folder(s) should be on a disk local to the machine running the IMAP server software (or your platform should have reliable locking across NFS/whatever ... something Mark Crispin really doubts exists (and so do I after some empirical observation)). This implies that your users' home directories must be local to the IMAP server system. * You cannot save messages from a mail folder in one format to one in another. This means you cannot use a Tenex INBOX and save messages from it to a Berkeley folder. If you already have Berkeley folders you will either need to convert them to Tenex as well, or put up with not being able to add more messages to them from Tenex folders. The recommendation from the Pine Team is to pick one folder format and stick with it for all your folders. So how do you use either driver? To use the mbox driver (having compiled and linked it in) you just need to create an empty file called "mbox" in your home directory. Pine and the imapd will spot this and rip all the mail in your delivery file (eg, /var/mail/username) and move it across to the mbox file. Newly arriving mail continues to be delivered to the delivery file, and gets moved across to the mbox file whenever Pine/imapd starts up, and periodically thereafter (whenever the check for new mail is performed). The Tenex driver is used similarly, only this time the empty file you create in your home directory must be called "mail.txt". It works in the same way as the mbox driver. [See below for a note about mail delivery and "tmail".] Gotchas? At one time we used the mbox driver but backed out from using it after finding a couple of problems... * Users were prone to try editing this mysterious "mbox" file with an editor or (worse) a word processor. I had to do any amount of patching up of these to edit out the header junk Word Perfect sprinkles at the start of the file. Until the file was fixed Pine/imapd refused to touch it (rightly) because it was corrupt. (Note that mail continued to be delivered to the delivery file in /var/mail/username for the user; Pine/imapd just couldn't transfer it to the mbox file for them to see it in/read it from.) * If a user ran short of disk quota and had a large message in their delivery file it couldn't get transferred across to the mbox file (insufficient quota left). This prevented the user from being able to read/delete the big message and all following ones until they had deleted enough files from their home directory to allow the big message to transfer across to the mbox file. (Needless to say this is a Real Fun Way for students to mess each other up! :-( What we did here... After backing out from using the mbox driver to store files in people's home directories (because of the above problems) we introduced disk quotas on the delivery directory (/var/mail). We give people a reasonable soft disk quota (0.5Mb for students, 4Mb for staff) with a hard quota which is double their soft one. This prevented people from letting their INBOX files grow indefinitely (some people seem remarkably loathe to delete messages from or save them out of their INBOX!). It also prevents accidental/deliberate mail loops filling up the entire disk. But then... We were having real performance problems after the latest intake of students. We traced this to now having around 9,000+ INBOX/delivery files stored in the /var/mail directory. So we decided to split users up into groups (we decided to go for a structure of /var/mail/NN/username, where NN is the last two digits of the user's UID). This *vastly* improved performance, and may be a possible solution to other sites having such problems who have staff confident of hacking the mailbox driver code to implement it (fairly straightforward changes, but just pray that you'll be able to keep the patches working against new releases of the Pine/imapd software!:-) Basically we fool the code into checking this /var/mail/NN/username area instead of the home directory when looking for the delivery file and/or mail.txt files (we haven't bothered about the mbox file as we no longer use these). The advtange is that this area is local to the IMAP server machine (hence avoids file locking problems over NFS), and is mounted anywhere else (so users can't edit their mail files with Word Perfect!). Whilst investigating all this we discovered the "tmail" program included with the other IMAP utilities (including something to convert between mailbox formats, eg from Berkeley to Tenex (or back!:-) ) This can be used as a pretty much drop-in replacement for /bin/mail, which most sendmail's use to actually write an arriving message into the INBOX folder's file. An advantage of tmail is that it built on top of the C-client library, and hence fully co-operates with Pine and imapd over mail file locking. It also knows about the mbox (if lined in) and Tenex drivers. This allows it to spot the existence of an mbox or mail.txt file in the user's home directory and deliver mail stright to it. This bypasses the normal delivery file, and hence the overhead of Pine/imapd having to move its contents across to the mbox/mail.txt file. Warning: I don't know how "supported" tmail is by the Pine Team. It seems to be developing (I have spotted a number of changes go by), but certainly don't assume it is fully operational and supported without hearing this from the Pine Team themselves. I hope this helps a bit... Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, Matt Hamilton wrote: > Dear All, > I want to store users mail in their home dirs and now I want to use > ipop3d to retrieve mail from there. Is this possible? I don't want to > have to use qpopper as I don't like it very much and don't trust it very > much. Plus I like the IMAP<->POP3 features of ipop3d. > > -Matt > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Matt Hamilton Clintondale Aviation > matt@clintondale.com http://www.clintondale.com > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:01:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA06083 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:01:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA01712 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:58:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA01708 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 01:58:35 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:57:19 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA08878; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:58:30 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 09:58:30 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Pat Caver cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I close out my e-mail service? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Perhaps you should ask someone actually at your University (perhaps a local help desk?) rather than a random collection of people around the world who know nothing about your site or its computer systems? Cheers! -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Pat Caver wrote: > Today is my last day. I am moving off campus to work in another position. > How do I disengage my e-mail at the end of the day? Pat > > Pat Caver > sky@cofs.washington.edu > http://www.cofs.washington.edu > Phone: (206) 685-1457 > FAX: (206) 543 6393 > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:04:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA06106 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA01745 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:01:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA01741 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:01:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg6Nf-00038kC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 01:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Roland Wenzel Subject: pineos2 not starting Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:46:18 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I don't get my pine working under OS/2. After setting up the variables I tried to start pine. It told me: Creating subdirectory "a':\mail" where Pine will store its mail folders. Error creating subdirectory "a':\mail" : No such file or directory But there is no option or setting to use a directory with this weired name. Any help is appreciated. roland -------------------------------------------------- This message has not been typed. Introducing VoiceType and Warp 4. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:06:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA06110 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:06:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA00330 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:02:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA00326 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 02:02:32 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:01:16 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA09160; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:02:23 GMT Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:02:22 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Paul J. Washo" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Please lend a hand here! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I doubt there's anything that you personally can do about this to fix it (indeed, I suspect it is probably already fixed... read on). "user fork failed" means that the current program (Pine in this case) couldn't start a subsidiary program it needs to run (in this case the spelling checker). This is because... "too many processes" means that your computer system has its maximum allowed number of program running simultaneously, and isn't allowing any more to start. You need to speak to the system manager of your computer to alert them to the problem. Only they can realistically try and sort things out (perhaps by rebooting the computer). Moral: Ask your local help desk for support/advice first! Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Paul J. Washo wrote: > > It seems something's gone awry with the Spell Check feature in my files > here . . . perhaps as a result of my own fumbled key strokes while > composing a message. Can get Spell checking to "kick-in", but it now > takes an unusually long time to complete checking on very brief messages, > then spits out an indicator something akin to "user fork failed" and "too > many processes". > > What have I done wrong? More importantly, how can I make it right again. > > Thanks in advance for your assistance. > > pjwasho@mailbox.syr.edu > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:38:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA07129 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:38:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA02792 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:34:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giga.sct.ub.es (giga.sct.ub.es [161.116.19.30]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA02782 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:33:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (pow@localhost) by giga.sct.ub.es (8.8.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id MAA02339; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:25:52 +0100 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 12:25:52 +0100 (MET) From: Pau Gorostiza To: "Robin S. Socha" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Terminal type ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > >Hi, I was using PINE on Linux, which has been recently upgraded to Linux > >2.0.0. But now I get this message when I try to run PINE: > > > > Terminal type "vt220", is unknown. > > > >Is it a Linux problem, or PINE, or just "mine" ? I couldn't find any > >references to this in Linux manual or PINE configurations... > > Actually, I've no idea what exactly goes wrong, but you might want to check > the TERM option. > > Unix Pine uses the following environment variables: > TERM > Tells Pine what kind of terminal is being used. Hi, I used in the Linux command line, as someone told me in the PINE list. It worked immediately, many thanx to you all... Pau > Please refer to the attached technotes for further detail. > > Cheers, > Robin > > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 > Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 > 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" > ... so I got myself Linux. > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ ________________________________________________________________________ | | | Pau Gorostiza Universitat de Barcelona | | pow@giga.sct.ub.es Serveis Cientifico-Tecnics | | http://tam-tam.sct.ub.es (34-3) 402-1349, 1352 | |________________________________________________________________________| From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:39:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA07137 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA01364 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:36:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA01360 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:36:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg7tP-00038kC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 03:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krinsky@hcs.harvard.edu (David Krinsky) Subject: Re: Remote Inbox login. Date: 02 Jan 1997 00:53:36 -0500 Message-ID: <72681g1v33.fsf@hcs.harvard.edu> References: <5ad3k1$uqo@animal.blarg.net> <72rak5gcf8.fsf@hcs.harvard.edu> In-reply-to: krinsky@hcs.harvard.edu's message of 01 Jan 1997 19:15:23 -0500 David Krinsky writes: > However, many IMAP servers, including the U. Washington one, allow imap > logins to be authenticated using rsh. If /etc/imapd is a symlink to the My apologies. This should read "/etc/rimapd". Dave. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:54:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA07251 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:54:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA01537 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:51:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA01533 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:51:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg86S-00038kC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 03:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Allen R Sparks Subject: Re: Setting up PINE on a LINUX box Date: 02 Jan 1997 16:26:12 -0900 Message-ID: References: <32CAF054.2A9B3E52@lucent.com> wao writes: > I tried to set pine (3.95) on my linux box so that ALL interactions > take place on my machine at work. The only thing I get to work is my > INBOX. I can read and delete messages but I cannot post or see any > other folders I have. My SMTP server and my login machine are different. > So I login to my smtp server with login and password (can I automate > this?) and I get my INBOX. If I try to open other folders I get > IMAP connection broken. My login and password are the same on both > machines (smtp mail server and my work machine). If I try to compose > e-mail (by pressing c) I get the same error as above. If I continue > anyway I get several move when I attemp to sent the mail. What am I > doing wrong? Thanks in advance. > > Bill Oswald > waoswald@lucent.com You might want to include a copy of your .pinerc file. I have a similar setup on my linux box, and it works fine. The only difference is that my SMTP server is my linux box (SMTP entry is blank), but my inbox is a remote machine, and I use IMAP to connect. I send mail from my linux box (From: header on outgoing mail has my IMAP server address) but receive mail on the IMAP server. === Al From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:55:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA07264 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:55:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA02989 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:51:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA02985 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 03:51:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg86a-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 03:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Allen R Sparks Subject: Re: Pine as Mail Editor in Lynx Date: 02 Jan 1997 16:33:30 -0900 Message-ID: References: toews@autobahn.mb.ca (Bruce Toews) writes: > > Properly speaking, Pine is not an editor at all, and if you > > specified it as an editor to Lynx, I am not surprised you got a mess. > > On the other hand, Pine's internal composer has been split out as a > > genuine editor called Pico. Try specifying Pico to Lynx instead of > > Pine. > > Yet our Freenet has somehow rigged it so Pine is invoked whenever a mailer > is needed. How did they do this? > > Bruce The obvious answer is to check with them, and share their answer with us. Another possibility is to check with a lynx expert. There should be a lynx newsgroup group out there. === Al From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:30:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA07532 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA03554 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:26:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA03550 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:26:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vg8fB-00038kC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 04:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Allen R Sparks Subject: Re: Setting up PINE on a LINUX box Date: 02 Jan 1997 16:43:44 -0900 Message-ID: References: <32CAF054.2A9B3E52@lucent.com> Allen R Sparks writes: > You might want to include a copy of your .pinerc file. > > I have a similar setup on my linux box, and it works fine. The only > difference is that my SMTP server is my linux box (SMTP entry is > blank), but my inbox is a remote machine, and I use IMAP to connect. > > I send mail from my linux box (From: header on outgoing mail has my > IMAP server address) but receive mail on the IMAP server. > === Al I should think before I post. Actually, pine does not have to be a daemon to do this. If there was a way to send a message from the command line using pine, you could put the entry in your .forward file. That being said, the "vacation" program I mentioned above is more sophisticated in that it sends messages to the same email address no more than once a week. So a user can send you repeat messages, and not get the same auto-reply for every message. === Al From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:36:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA07577 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA03775 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:32:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA03771 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:32:40 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id GAA30208 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 06:32:08 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 06:32:08 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Installing Pine Under Red Hat Linux 4 for an Alpha Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there something different about installing Pine under Red Hat Linux 4 on a DEC Alpha as opposed to installing it under regular linux? I grab the file from ftp.cac.washington.edu, uncompress, tar it, type ./build lnx and get no compilation. Any idea wy? Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:57:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA07725 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:57:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA03992 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:54:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA03988 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 04:54:27 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:53:31 +0800 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:53:31 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Bruce Toews cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Installing Pine Under Red Hat Linux 4 for an Alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Bruce Toews wrote: > Is there something different about installing Pine under Red Hat Linux 4 > on a DEC Alpha as opposed to installing it under regular linux? I grab the > file from ftp.cac.washington.edu, uncompress, tar it, type > > ./build lnx > > and get no compilation. Any idea wy? I'm not at familiar with Linux. However, it may help others to understand your situation if they had an idea of what exactly you are seeing. When you say "get no compilation" what does that mean? Does that mean nothing is output to your screen and you simply get the system prompt back? No error messages or warnings at all? Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 05:40:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA07965 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 05:40:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA02925 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 05:35:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA02921 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 05:35:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id HAA31928; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:35:15 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:35:15 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: Edward M Greshko cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Installing Pine Under Red Hat Linux 4 for an Alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > I'm not at familiar with Linux. However, it may help others > to understand your situation if they had an idea of what exactly you > are seeing. > > When you say "get no compilation" what does that mean? Does > that mean nothing is output to your screen and you simply get the > system prompt back? No error messages or warnings at all? > > Regards, > > Ed > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > Well, a whole bunch of stuff gets output to the screen, and it all goes by really fast. IT takes about three minutes, and there are some warnings that zoom by that I can't place. When all is said and done, there are no compiled files to run and no links in the pine3.95/bin subdirectory. Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:09:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA08117 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 07:09:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA05261 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 06:53:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA05257 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 06:53:32 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:52:34 +0800 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:52:34 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Bruce Toews cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Installing Pine Under Red Hat Linux 4 for an Alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Bruce Toews wrote: > > I'm not at familiar with Linux. However, it may help others > > to understand your situation if they had an idea of what exactly you > > are seeing. > > > > When you say "get no compilation" what does that mean? Does > > that mean nothing is output to your screen and you simply get the > > system prompt back? No error messages or warnings at all? > > > > Regards, > > > > Ed > > > > -- > > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > > Well, a whole bunch of stuff gets output to the screen, and it all goes by > really fast. IT takes about three minutes, and there are some warnings > that zoom by that I can't place. When all is said and done, there are no > compiled files to run and no links in the pine3.95/bin subdirectory. OK....well you need to capture what is going wrong. I suspect that the very last 10 lines or so of the build may give a clue to other. I don't know what shell you are using so it is difficult to judge. But you can try something like: ./build lnx >& build.out which may (depending on the shell) save STDOUT and STDERR to the file build.out. Then you can read what is going on and if need be send that as an attachment to someone more familiar with the OS you are using. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:22:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA10208 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:22:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA04943 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:16:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA04939 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 08:16:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgCGD-00038kC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 08:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kong Sing Yeong Subject: Re: State of interrupted compositions Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:32:41 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: (a). That's what happens when my system hangs and I re-connect. On 2 Jan 1997, Pete Koning wrote: > Quickly, > we are running Pine 3.95 under Solaris. Here is the scenario I would > like an answer on: > /1/ While a user is composing a message, her time-limit is reached > and our system logs her out. When she next logs in will she be able to: > (a) resume her interupted message, > or is her message > (b) lost forever? > > > /pete > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Pete Koning petek@freenet.hamilton.on.ca > System Administration Ph:(905)528-4936 > Hamilton-Wentworth Freenet Fx:(905)528-7578 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:47:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA13563 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA08286 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:42:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.135]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA08282 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:42:11 -0800 Received: from rac2.wam.umd.edu (kmk@rac2.wam.umd.edu [128.8.70.102]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.8.3/8.8.0) with ESMTP id NAA14846 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:42:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (kmk@localhost) by rac2.wam.umd.edu (8.8.3/8.8.0) with SMTP id NAA24021 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:42:03 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rac2.wam.umd.edu: kmk owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:42:03 -0500 (EST) From: Kevin Michael Kraft To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To Whom It May Concern: Somehow my INBOX has become a read-only folder, and I can't seem to find out how I changed it. Subsequently I have not been able to delete the one message in the folder. Please let me know what I need to do to remedy the problem Thank you Kevin Kraft (University of Maryland student) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:17:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA14251 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:17:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA09012 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:13:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from leatherback.nist.gov (leatherback.nist.gov [129.6.16.31]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA09006 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:12:57 -0800 Received: from bfrl-104-13.cbt.nist.gov by leatherback.nist.gov (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id OAA05246; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:11:11 -0500 Message-ID: <32CD59FE.7BE2@wam.umd.edu> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 14:11:58 -0500 From: "Kevin M. Kraft" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This concerns the status of Kevin Kraft's inbox. The read-only status of the INBOX is not allowing me to receive messages so could you possibly send the responses to dry@wam.umd.edu or call 301 975-6701. Thank you Kevin Kraft From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:56:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA17804 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:56:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA14308 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:52:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA14304 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 13:52:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgHWd-00038uC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 13:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwu@crl.com (Matt Wu) Subject: PINE as POP client Date: 31 Dec 1996 17:15:39 -0800 Message-ID: <5acdrr$l5v@crl.crl.com> Sorry if this is a repeat message . . . my news reader seemed to be having problems posting, so I'm trying with a different program. I had heard that PINE can read from POP servers by editing .pinerc. Is there a way to configure PINE to read messages from the server without removing messages on there already? If possible, please reply via e-mail. Thanks, Matt mwu@crl.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:56:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA19257 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:56:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA14343 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:52:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA14338 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 14:52:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgIRE-00038sC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 14:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pauls@cic.net (Paul Southworth) Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: 29 Dec 1996 23:54:37 GMT Message-ID: <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> mwu@crl.com (Matt Wu) writes: > >It'd be treat if PINE or elm could read from POP servers, but I don't >think they can. Pine can communicate directly with POP3 servers. Undocumented feature. Tell your .pinerc to do inbox-path like so: inbox-path={your.mail.host/110}inbox Enjoy your treat. ;) --Paul From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:22:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA19820 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:22:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA16532 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:17:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA16528 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 15:17:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgIrK-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 15:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rudy Moore Subject: save folder default names Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:16:39 GMT Message-ID: <5ak0g7$5o6@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Is there any way to save a group of different e-mail addresses under a single folder name? Case in point is that more then a couple of my friends e-mail me from different accounts, I'd like to be able to save them all to the correct folder without having to manually type in the name of the folder. ie) Jonathan Price has price@cdw.brazil.com and lowry@central.services.net as e-mail addresses. When I hit 's' I'd like it to offer me [price] no matter which address he e-mails me from. But when I type 'price' in the to: field of a compose, I'd like it to always go to lowry@central. services.net. I've figured out save-by-nick-then-by-sender, but I can't have multiple addresses under the same nick, except by creating a mailing list. And I don't want to send to all of their addresses every time I send them a message.... Adding a "folder name" field to the address book would fix this quickly. Or perhaps keeping track of the folder name last used for a particular receive address and then offering that as the default the next time pine sees that address appear. This second option involves adding a new (or appending to an existing) configuration file and is probably more work but is potentially more powerful. If you don't know of any way to do this in the existing system, could you offer pointers on which files/what part of the code would need modification? I can program, but it seems like the pine-source learning curve might be pretty steep. Thank you! -- Rudy Moore a451j27 A023H12 "Can't shake the devil's hand and say you're only kidding." -- TMBG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:36:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA21341 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA16869 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:33:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fw.bluestone.com (fw.bluestone.com [199.99.173.252]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA16865 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:33:50 -0800 Received: by fw.bluestone.com; id TAA06029; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:33:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from blustone.operations.bluestone.com(204.107.210.200) by fw.bluestone.com via smap (3.2) id xma006023; Fri, 3 Jan 97 19:33:30 -0500 Received: from psgserver.bluestone.com by blustone.operations.bluestone.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09365; Fri, 3 Jan 97 19:32:37 EST Received: from localhost by psgserver.bluestone.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA14459; Fri, 3 Jan 97 19:32:32 EST Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:32:32 -0500 (EST) From: Kiran Anantha X-Sender: kiran@psgserver To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine access 2 imap servers? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I recently installed Netscape Mail Server on host2. host1 is the current imap server machine. If I set my inbox to {host1}, I can access mail on host1 and if I set it to {host2}, I can read mail from host2. What I would like to do is set inbox to {host1} and define a folder-collection for mail on host2 (perhaps as "host2mail {host2}[]" ?!). But, though I can login I cannot access my mail on host2.(I get an error saying empty folders). Is there something wrong with my approach, syntax? Would appreciate any help/suggestions/pointers to a FAQ ref, etc. TIA, Kiran. P.S: I can do a "g {host2}" and get to my mail on host2, so why can't {host2}[] be a valid folder. =============================================================== Kiran Anantha Phone: (609) 727-4600 (x1157) Bluestone 1000 Briggs Road Email: kiran@bluestone.com Mt. Laurel, NJ 08054 Web: http://www.bluestone.com/ =============================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 17:26:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA22482 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 17:26:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA17950 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 17:23:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA17946 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 17:22:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgKkj-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 17:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) Subject: Re: Installing Pine Under Red Hat Linux 4 for an Alpha Date: 3 Jan 1997 21:54:59 GMT Message-ID: <5ajv7j$lj9@news1.voicenet.com> References: <5ajgul$7kj@nr1.calgary.istar.net> In article <5ajgul$7kj@nr1.calgary.istar.net> in newsgroup comp.mail.pine, William Morrow wrote: >Has anyone built 3.95 under Linux, without hacking at >the source? I think I managed to do it. Red Hat 3.0.3, running a 2.0.x kernel. Bill -- billd@doa.net billd@voicenet.com (Bill D) "Yesterday, apropos of nothing, one friend said to me 'Do you ever have days where you just want to get everyone you know together in one place, have them all take off their clothes, and let nature take its course?'" --Susan Groppi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:26:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA23058 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:26:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA20423 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:23:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA20419 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 18:22:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgLkO-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 18:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Smart Subject: automatic rename and delete of sentmail Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:00:05 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine documents say: You will get a message via Pine at the end of each month asking you about your sent-mail folders. First it asks you if you want to rename (and thus save) your current sent-mail folder. Then it asks if you want to delete any sent-mail folders (and all the messages they contain) from previous months and the current month. But PC-Pine has not done this for me in 3 months since installation. Any idea why? PC-Pine 3.95 running under Win95. The folder's name is the PC default "sentmail" rather than "sent-mail". Thanks, -- Michael Smart (416) 978-5119 (bus) University of Toronto Economics 978-6713 (fax) Toronto ON M5S 3G7 http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~msmart ========================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:56:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA23818 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:56:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA20046 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:53:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA20042 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:53:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgN9A-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 19:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fabrizio Talucci Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 19:15:16 -0800 Message-ID: <32CDCB44.7586@cs.ucla.edu> References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> <32cd02b4.5766005@news.atlantel.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Francis CHARTIER wrote: > = > Le Thu, 02 Jan 1997 20:40:31 -0800, Fabrizio Talucci a > =E9crit : > = > >Paul Southworth wrote: > = > >Actually, i use > > > > inbox-path=3D{your.mail.host/pop3}inbox > > > >and I confirm; it is undocumented. > > > >Does anyone knows why? > = > AFAIK, it is documented in the MAN page for pine 3.95 > Well, I use it cos' I read it somewhere, I'm no guru... ;-[ > = Yes, but the time I installed my PINE, 3.95 was a dream! I can't remember the release that I used, but I remember that I browsed the MAN and more, without find anything about POP feature. I came across the POP feature reading the PINE Web page; there was only a hidden and little note on how to do this but nothing else. This note has made the PINE fortune! In fact, here (CSD-UCLA) everybody seems to use Procmail with Elm. I, instead, I like the old POP fashion. Every time, POP gives me the same shiver of uncorking a bottle of CAMPAGNE! Happy new year. -- = ___ __ _ __ __ __ = /_ /_| /_> /_/ / / / / / E-mail: talucci@cs.ucla.edu = / / | /_> / | / /_ / /_/ AX25:IK7NCU@IK7MXD.PUG.ITA.EU = ___ __ __ __ = / /_| / / / / ' / ' / Addr: UCLA-CSD Boelter Hall 3771 = / / | /_ /_/ /_/ /_/ / Tel:(310) Off. 2068589 Home 4450647 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:36:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA24137 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:36:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA22062 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:33:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA22058 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 20:33:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgNkG-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 20:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Allen R Sparks Subject: Re: Dead-letter. Date: 31 Dec 1996 13:43:25 -0900 Message-ID: References: Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com (Edward M Greshko) writes: > Some years ago the US government would broadcast an "informercial" > on TV and radio. The theme of these was "RIF". The meaning of "RIF"? > Reading is Fundamental. These broadcast were to extol the virtues of > reading for sake of knowledge. In this case, as in many cases, reading is > fundamental to understanding how/why things work as they do. > > So, in the spirit of "RIF", why not go to setup/configure and find > the option: [snip] > While you are there....why not spend a few minutes, as you say, > reading! It may save you having to ask questions and waiting for > some person to feel sorry for you and answer your questions. > > Regards, > > Ed What I don't understand is, if you thing it's such a PITA to help someone (for whatever the reason) why do it? I help people with computer problems for a living. I've found lots of ways to tell people to RTFM w/o being rude or snide. === Al From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 21:26:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA24620 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 21:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA21220 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 21:23:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA21216 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 21:23:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgOYw-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 21:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Subject: PGP AND PINE Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 11:23:23 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Could someone tell me how to automac PGP into Pine, in other words use PGP and Pine 3.95 for windows. Any help apprencated. thanks steve From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:03:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA25215 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 23:03:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA23734 for pine-info-out; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:58:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA23730 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 22:58:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgQ1m-00038nC; Fri, 3 Jan 97 22:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gary@safetydisk.com (Gary Aikens) Subject: ONE MILLION CHILDREN..... Date: 03 Jan 97 13:24:35 Message-ID: <19970103182149578.AKV275@[205.187.61.2]> ...and pets are lost or turn up missing every year! Protect your loved ones today! Think about all the things you do to protect your loved ones. Isn't there one more thing you should do? Child and Pet ID Kits have been around for years, but most of them haven't changed with the years. Traditional ID Kits allow you to compile valuable information about your child or pet that you can use in the event your child or pet is missing. We are responding to the rapid changes in technology. We know that any ID Kit just isn't good enough. Our ID Kit is quite different! You supply us with up to three photos and pertinent information about your child or pet and we create a SAFETYDISK. In PC or MAC format, SAFETYDISK is a 3 1/2" disk that contains photos and valuable information that could help law enforcement agencies in the search for a missing child or pet. What makes our kit so unique is that each SAFETYDISK is actually pre-formatted for the World Wide Web. SAFETYDISK can be put on any Internet server within seconds and displayed to millions and millions of people who might spot your child or pet! For more information, visit our website at http://www.mvisibility.com/sd/ Thanks, Gary Aikens President, SafetyDisk, Inc. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:32:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA25148 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:32:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA23231 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:28:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA23227 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:28:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgRSf-00038sC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 00:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Info on c-client API Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1996 10:13:31 -0800 Message-ID: References: <32C60EC7.1F92@whowhere.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32C60EC7.1F92@whowhere.com> There are basically three sources of information on C-client: - The file docs/Internal.DOC in the imap.tar.Z distribution - The examples in ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-utils.tar.Z - The c-client@cac.washington.edu mailing list. To subscribe, mailto:c-client-request@cac.washington.edu It is also archived at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/c-client_archive --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8658.79 On Sat, 28 Dec 1996, Rupesh Kapoor wrote: > From: Rupesh Kapoor > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Info on c-client API > Date: Sat, 28 Dec 1996 22:25:11 -0800 > Organization: WhoWhere? Inc > Message-ID: <32C60EC7.1F92@whowhere.com> > NNTP-Posting-Host: biz.whowhere.com > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) > > Hi, > > I need help in locating the documentation on c-client api. The search > on the Web doesn't return anything useful. > > > Thanks > Rupesh > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:38:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA26028 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:38:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA24814 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:33:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA24810 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:33:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgRTB-00038sC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 00:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu (Thomas Fritz Ramm) Subject: Re: US-ASCII vs. ISO-8895 Date: 31 Dec 1996 18:53:10 GMT Message-ID: <5abnem$5tk@hermes.acs.unt.edu> References: <32c83a15.4437967@news.pconline.com> <5a9407$c75@hermes.acs.unt.edu> Alan J. Flavell (flavell@mail.cern.ch) wrote: > On 30 Dec 1996, Thomas Fritz Ramm wrote: > > In pine go to setup and then config. Scroll down until you find a variable > > named "Character Set". Add iso-8859-1 as value to that field.That will get > > rid of the message you desribed above. > It will indeed get rid of the warning. But the warning is there for a > reason. If your terminal emulation is not, in fact, set for iso-8859-1 > then it may cause the display of the incoming mail to be corrupted(*), > without any warning. Isn't it better to get a warning of this > possibility? Not only will it get rid of the warning but it also lets pine display ISO-8859-1 characters correctly. I used to receive e-mail from Europe that included some of those special European letters (äÇöß etc.) and Pine would not display them until I added ISO-8859-1 to the character set field in Pine setup. All the English letters and numbers are included in ISO-8859-1. There is no problem composing in English when using ISO-8859-1. In fact MS Mail uses this set by default (instead of US-ASCII). Of course, if you use ALL the special characters in US-ASCII extensively, I guess, ther might be a problem using ISO-8859-1 but I have never experienced it in my three years on the net. > (*)There won't be any corruption if, in fact, the incoming mail contains > only characters from the US-ASCII (7-bit) set. > When PINE _composes_ mail, on a configuration whose charset is > configured as ISO-8859-1 (or whatever the sender may be using), it will > detect whether the composed mail contains only US-ASCII, and send out > mail with the charset declared as US-ASCII if it can, and as ISO-8859-1 > (etc.) only if it must. > Some less considerate mail agents advertise their outgoing mail as being > encoded in ISO-8859-1, or ISO-2022-JP, or koi8-r, even when in fact the > content is nothing more than US-ASCII. > -- > best regards -- Thomas --------------------------------------------------------------- Thomas F Ramm --> tramm@jove.acs.unt.edu --> tramm@stephens.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:17:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA27310 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA26516 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:15:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA26508 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:15:04 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:14:09 +0800 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:14:08 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko To: Rudy Moore cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: save folder default names In-Reply-To: <5ak0g7$5o6@spool.cs.wisc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 3 Jan 1997, Rudy Moore wrote: > Is there any way to save a group of different e-mail addresses under a > single folder name? Case in point is that more then a couple of my friends > e-mail me from different accounts, I'd like to be able to save them all > to the correct folder without having to manually type in the name of > the folder. > > ie) Jonathan Price has price@cdw.brazil.com and lowry@central.services.net > as e-mail addresses. When I hit 's' I'd like it to offer me [price] no > matter which address he e-mails me from. But when I type 'price' in > the to: field of a compose, I'd like it to always go to lowry@central. > services.net. > > I've figured out save-by-nick-then-by-sender, but I can't have multiple > addresses under the same nick, except by creating a mailing list. And > I don't want to send to all of their addresses every time I send them > a message.... > > Adding a "folder name" field to the address book would fix this quickly. > Or perhaps keeping track of the folder name last used for a particular > receive address and then offering that as the default the next time > pine sees that address appear. This second option involves adding a > new (or appending to an existing) configuration file and is probably > more work but is potentially more powerful. > > If you don't know of any way to do this in the existing system, could > you offer pointers on which files/what part of the code would need > modification? I can program, but it seems like the pine-source learning > curve might be pretty steep. It seems that what you want to do is a bit out of scope for what/how pine was designed to work. I'd suggest using a mail filter program such as "procmail" for which you can design rather complex rules on how to save incoming mails. This should solve your problem without modification to pine. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:19:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA27330 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA24977 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:17:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA24973 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 03:17:36 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:16:41 +0800 Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:16:41 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Michael Smart cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: automatic rename and delete of sentmail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Michael Smart wrote: > Pine documents say: > > You will get a message via Pine at the end of each month asking you about > your sent-mail folders. First it asks you if you want to rename (and thus > save) your current sent-mail folder. Then it asks if you want to delete > any sent-mail folders (and all the messages they contain) from previous > months and the current month. > > But PC-Pine has not done this for me in 3 months since installation. > > Any idea why? > > PC-Pine 3.95 running under Win95. The folder's name is the PC default > "sentmail" rather than "sent-mail". Thanks, Look in your pinerc file for the following: # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=97.1 maybe it is set to some date in the far future? Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 05:20:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA27977 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 05:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA26315 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 05:14:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA26311 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 05:14:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgVv6-00038sC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 05:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gary@safetydisk.com (Gary Aikens) Subject: ONE MILLION CHILDREN..... 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:37:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA28459 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:37:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA28629 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:34:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA28625 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 06:34:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgX7q-00038sC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 06:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Folders with unanswered messages - which ones? Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:09:10 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Marco De la Cruz wrote: > Is there any way to make Pine automatically > highlight (or somehow mark) folders with > unanswered messages inside? In this way > I could tell at a glance (from the folder > list) where are the messages I have not > yet answered, instead of having to read > the contents of each folder... If you are using the default (or not too heavily modified) format for the index listing, then Pine will show you which messages are _answered_. Obviously, unanswered messages are those which have not been answered. :-) The format of the index listing (in later versions of Pine) is controlled by the index-format field toward the bottom of the configuration screens. There is a good bit of online help. If you take the default or specify STATUS or FULLSTATUS, then an answered message will have an 'A' in the status field. Just look for any message *without* an 'A'. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 09:29:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA29643 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 09:29:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA28867 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 09:26:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA28863 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 09:26:26 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 04 Jan 97 18:26:21 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA00225 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:14:23 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:14:23 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: Pine user list Subject: Re: Unix POP client? In-Reply-To: <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Dec 1996, Paul Southworth wrote: >Pine can communicate directly with POP3 servers. Undocumented feature. > >Tell your .pinerc to do inbox-path like so: > > inbox-path={your.mail.host/110}inbox My pop account needs my username and my password as additional parameters. Is that possible, too? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 11:16:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA30504 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 11:16:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA01872 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 11:11:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailer.syr.edu (mailer.syr.edu [128.230.20.20]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA01868 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 11:11:34 -0800 Received: from gamera.syr.edu by mailer.syr.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.0a) with SMTP id 30E34D20 ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:11:34 -0500 Received: from localhost (pjwasho@localhost) by gamera.syr.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA14582; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:11:32 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: gamera.syr.edu: pjwasho owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:11:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Paul J. Washo" X-Sender: pjwasho@gamera.syr.edu To: Mike Brudenell cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Thanks for the help. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The stated problem has cleared itself since my last session -- spell check working as normal once again. Thanks for your assistance! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 13:40:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA31413 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 13:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA01878 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 13:35:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA01874 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 13:35:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgdgW-00038uC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 13:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dad@epix.net (DearOldDad) Subject: Re: Pine Messages Date: 4 Jan 1997 21:29:58 GMT Message-ID: <5ami4m$dmg@news1.epix.net> References: <5ahav4$4ko@news.huji.ac.il> Alexander Virtser (avir@black) wrote: : How can I prevent Pine asking 'Move December messages to...'? : I don't wanna Pine to move any messages at all! Just answer (N)o when it asks. You can also disable that feature, but why not leave the option available? BYE ... John From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:23:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA31669 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:23:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA03901 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:19:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fvrl.org (secondnature.com [204.119.30.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA03897 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:19:28 -0800 Received: by fvrl.org (/\oo/\ Smail3.1.29.1 #29.2) id ; Sat, 4 Jan 97 14:19 PST Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:19:26 -0800 (PST) From: Judy Mason X-Sender: judym@vanlib.fvrl.org To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printing from pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII We have several Pine users. As far as I know all, except one, are having no problems. THE ONE, however, is driving me crazy. The problem is that when she prints the message, depending on the printer, the prin is so small you can't read it, or so big it can't fit on the page. She has no probems with other printing jobs, just from Pine. I've tried changing printers, no difference. I've tried changing the printer setups, nothing. To further confuse me, she is able to print from the Net, using Netscape. Thanks for any suggestions. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:38:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA31772 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:38:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA02492 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:35:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA02482 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:35:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgecS-000393C; Sat, 4 Jan 97 14:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morpheus@calweb.com (Steve Lamb) Subject: Getting passwords saved on PINE Date: 4 Jan 1997 22:22:02 GMT Message-ID: I have got pine on my OS/2 box and it has a feature to save the IMAP name/password. I also want this feature on Linux and FreeBSD but cannot fine how to do it in the man pages. Does such a feature exist? -- - - - ---===+{ }+===--- - - - Steve C. Lamb @..@ 'Bud' @..@ 'weis' @..@ 'er!' (-==-)--/ (--==)--/ (--=-)--/ ( >__< ) ( >__< ) ( >__< ) ^^ ~~ ^^ ^^ ~~ ^^ ^^ ~~ ^^ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:38:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA31775 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:38:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA02498 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:35:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from logjam.ucc.nau.edu (mailgate.nau.edu [134.114.96.14]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA02494 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:35:55 -0800 Received: from dana.ucc.nau.edu by NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-5 #18805) with ESMTP id <01IDTJC8PXJA95MNR3@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:35:53 MST Received: from localhost (tsb2@localhost) by dana.ucc.nau.edu (8.8.4/2.12b-nau) with SMTP id PAA14168 for ; Sat, 04 Jan 1997 15:35:50 -0700 (MST) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 15:35:50 -0700 (MST) From: Tatiana Suzanne Baldwin Subject: help To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have about a million saved messgaes that I what to keep but I don't really want them printed out, and that takes way too long. is there anyway I can save them on a disk??? also, somehow I got myself on newsbanks of all kinds, they show in the folder list screen how do I get rid of them, deleting them one at a time would take 30 days. Thankyou!!!!!!!!!! tatiana From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:56:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA31912 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA02680 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:52:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA02676 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 14:52:25 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA12639; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 16:50:20 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 16:50:19 -0600 () From: Bruce Toews To: Tatiana Suzanne Baldwin cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII You can just download your saved-messages folder as a file and read it offline. Should work no problem. Bruce On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Tatiana Suzanne Baldwin wrote: > > I have about a million saved messgaes that I what to keep but I don't > really want them printed out, and that takes way too long. is there anyway > I can save them on a disk??? > > also, somehow I got myself on newsbanks of all kinds, they show in the > folder list screen how do I get rid of them, deleting them one at a time > would take 30 days. > > Thankyou!!!!!!!!!! > tatiana > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:23:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA32098 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:23:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA02987 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:19:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from triton.kaifnet.com (gateway.kaifnet.com [203.127.137.70]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA02983 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:19:49 -0800 Received: from localhost by triton.kaifnet.com with SMTP id AA25889 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for ); Sun, 5 Jan 1997 05:16:12 +0600 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 05:16:11 +0600 (GMT+0600) From: M Shariful Anam To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: backgr mail sedning Message-Id: Organization: Kaifnet Services (Bangladesh) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I was using Pine3.91, and have upgraded to 3.95. It's much more cool. But facing one inconvenience. When I send a mail in 3.95 by pressing Ctrl-X, it seems, it tries to send the mail to the MTA (on our case sendmail) immediately, which in turn return success after looking up the host name of the address etc. As a result sendmail mail has become a bit problematic, specially if some nameserver is down etc. So how I can I change the setup on 3.95 for complete background mail sending? I compiled the sources on a 1.2.13 Linux kernel. Please cc me too when replying if you're reading this on a newsgroup/mailing list. Thanx. --- M Shariful Anam Kaifnet Services -- Bangladesh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:29:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA32133 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:29:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA04589 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:25:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA04585 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 15:25:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgfRT-00038yC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 15:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Clark Subject: Strange Pine Error Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 14:28:03 -0800 Message-ID: <32CED973.5ADD@jamesclark.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Often times when I am in Pine and I either send a message or try to Quit , I get this error message popping up: [New mailbox modification time but apparently no changes] Other times I get a message saying INBOX has been closed due to an access error. Can anyone give me any ideas as to what could be going wrong here? This happens quite a lot. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:55:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA00680 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:55:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA05298 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:50:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA05294 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 18:50:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgicX-00038uC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 18:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vikas@insight.att.com (Vikas Agnihotri) Subject: Re: When All Else Fails Date: 31 Dec 1996 07:25:06 EST Message-ID: References: On 30 Dec 1996 21:33:01 -0800, Ed Greshko wrote: >On Mon, 30 Dec 1996, Bruce Toews wrote: > > > However, one thing you can try doing to see if your problem >is really a local MTA problem or another problem related to pine is to >go to setup/config and change the value of: > >smtp-server = > > to the hostname of a machine close to you. I mean you could >set it to "mit.edu" but then pine would have to talk to that machine and >it would slow things down a bit. Good idea.. But I remember reading somewhere that the latest versions of sendmail running today plan to (or already ) WILL NOT accept SMTP connections from any host just WILLY NILLY ! This , of course, is to avoid the slew of security problems that sendmail has been famous for in the past, including email masquerading, anon remailing, spamming, etc! And also, this would work only if the machine Pine is running on is DIRECTLY connected the the Internet. Now me, I am behind a corporate firewall and I can directly accss only machines within my domain (sob)! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:33:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA00892 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:33:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA07116 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:30:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA07112 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:30:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgjGn-00038yC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 19:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: psalzman@landau.ucdavis.edu (from alt.stop.spamming) Subject: cancel <5an5om$8ll$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> Control: cancel <5an5om$8ll$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> Date: 5 Jan 1997 03:22:53 GMT Message-ID: <5an6qd$8ll$2@mark.ucdavis.edu> Article cancelled from within tin [v1.2 PL2] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:45:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA00631 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA05820 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:41:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA05816 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 19:41:48 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 11:40:54 +0800 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 11:40:54 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: DearOldDad cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine Messages In-Reply-To: <5ami4m$dmg@news1.epix.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 4 Jan 1997, DearOldDad wrote: > Alexander Virtser (avir@black) wrote: > : How can I prevent Pine asking 'Move December messages to...'? > : I don't wanna Pine to move any messages at all! > > Just answer (N)o when it asks. You can also disable that feature, but why > not leave the option available? Actually, the way to do it would be to edit the pinerc file at the line: # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=97.1 And set it to a date in the far future. As to "why not leave the option available"? Because that is not the behaviour the original poster wants, period. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 20:29:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA01218 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 20:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA06292 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 20:26:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA06288 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 20:26:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgk8Q-00038uC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 20:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: MIME Multipart Madness Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:18:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5ajcuk$rgo@nr1.toronto.istar.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5ajcuk$rgo@nr1.toronto.istar.net> {followup additionally crossposted to comp.mail.pine} On 3 Jan 1997, John R MacMillan wrote on comp.mail.mime (excerpt): [concerning mail with HTML attachments] > But the rendering resources _are_ under your control. Convince your MUA > that you would prefer text/plain to text/html in a message that is > multipart/alternative. Just for information, I use Pine 3.94 under a flavor of Un*x. Pine is MIME-compliant. When it receives an email with both text/plain and text/html using MIME standards, it can handle it. Unfortunately, by default it displays the unrendered text/html and tells me that the text/plain is in an attachment. It will show me this just dandy provided I go through additional keystrokes. So far I am unaware of any configuration option to Pine (at my version level) which will switch the order of preference. I subscribe to one mailing list in which this situation is beginning to show up more and more. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:24:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA01705 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:24:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA08328 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:21:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA08324 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 21:21:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgkwl-00038uC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 21:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marco De la Cruz Subject: Re: Folders with unanswered messages - which ones? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:31:16 GMT References: Paul O Bartlett writes: > > Is there any way to make Pine automatically > > highlight (or somehow mark) folders with > > unanswered messages inside? In this way [snip!] > If you are using the default (or not too heavily modified) format > for the index listing, then Pine will show you which messages are > _answered_. Obviously, unanswered messages are those which have not > been answered. :-) The format of the index listing (in later versions > of Pine) is controlled by the index-format field toward the bottom of [snip!] Thanks! However, it's not the status of messages in the folder index which I was asking about, but of the _folders_ themselves. That is, is there any way to tell Pine to show me whether there are unanswered messages inside a given folder without actually listing its contents? Again, any help is thoroughly appreciated! _________________________________ marco@chinook.physics.utoronto.ca Gunnm: Broken Angel http://128.100.80.13/marco/alita.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:45:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA02399 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:45:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA09262 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:41:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA09258 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:41:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgmEB-00038yC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 22:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mmich01@curly.cc.emory.edu (Michele Ann Micheline) Subject: A Kill file for Pine?? Date: 3 Jan 1997 22:09:50 -0500 Message-ID: <5akhlu$b88@curly.cc.emory.edu> I REALLY need to set up a kill file for pine- iIget tons of unwelcome and lewd mail, and with a college account and no time to deal with it all it's driving me up the wall (I'm sure you are all familiar with this situation.) I'm running UNIX(r) System V Release 4.0 and I am familiar with Pico editor. Any simple instructions would be great. Thanks so much- Chel Micheline mmich01@emory.edu -- __________________________________________________________________________ Chel Micheline * Film Studies http://userwww.service.emory.edu/~mmich01 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:47:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA02424 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:47:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA07749 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:41:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA07745 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 22:41:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgmEB-00038uC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 22:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sf6sqa@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (WILLIAM F Eselby) Subject: Re: 2 Fcc folders Date: 4 Jan 1997 02:27:04 GMT Message-ID: <5akf5o$h30@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> References: <59c6aj$lh8@news1.halcyon.com> David L Miller (dlm@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : Sorry, we don't have any way to have multiple Fcc's right now. You : should be able to work out using Cc: and a procmail rule though... : --DLM : -- : |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 : |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) : University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 : 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8599.94 : On 19 Dec 1996, Nancy McGough wrote: : > I'd like to be able to specify two Fcc folders in PC Pine for : > Windows - one would be on my PC and the other would be on the : > Net. Are there any plans to allow this or tricks for how to : > do it now? : > : > Thanks, : > Nancy : > : > -- : > <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< : > @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ : > (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) : > ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < : > : > -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 23:27:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA02703 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 23:27:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA08262 for pine-info-out; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 23:21:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA08258 for ; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 23:21:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgmps-00038uC; Sat, 4 Jan 97 23:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: f.chartier@atlantel.fr (Francis CHARTIER) Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 13:01:41 GMT Message-ID: <32cd02b4.5766005@news.atlantel.fr> References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> Le Thu, 02 Jan 1997 20:40:31 -0800, Fabrizio Talucci a écrit : >Paul Southworth wrote: >Actually, i use > > inbox-path={your.mail.host/pop3}inbox > >and I confirm; it is undocumented. > >Does anyone knows why? AFAIK, it is documented in the MAN page for pine 3.95 Well, I use it cos' I read it somewhere, I'm no guru... ;-[ *---------------------------------------------* Francis Chartier f.chartier@atlantel.fr Quid Novi ? quidnovi@atlantel.fr * PAO * Pre-Presse * Photogravure * *---------------------------------------------* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:07:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA03281 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA09384 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:05:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hd1.vsnl.net.in (hd1.vsnl.net.in [202.54.30.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA09380 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:05:18 -0800 Received: by hd1.vsnl.net.in; id AA25903; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:36:07 +0500 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:36:07 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: MOHAMMED ABDUL QADEER To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:10:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA03301 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA10805 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:06:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hd1.vsnl.net.in (hd1.vsnl.net.in [202.54.30.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA10801 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 01:06:28 -0800 Received: by hd1.vsnl.net.in; id AA27435; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:37:18 +0500 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 14:37:18 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: MOHAMMED ABDUL QADEER To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 02:35:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04004 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 02:35:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA11692 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 02:31:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA11688 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 02:31:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgprd-00038uC; Sun, 5 Jan 97 02:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin Berry Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 02:32:00 -0600 Message-ID: References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Fabrizio Talucci wrote: > Paul Southworth wrote: > inbox-path={your.mail.host/pop3}inbox > > and I confirm; it is undocumented. > > Does anyone knows why? I think it has something to do with the fact that doesn't seem quite perfected, yet. Yes, it functions and all, but, one seems to have to restart pine in order to retrieve new mail. -- mailto:rberry@arlington.net or kevin.berry@chrysalis.org http://www.chrysalis.org/kevinb Note: All words from my account are my own and do not represent the views of StarText, or any of its affiliates. Check for my PGP keys on the servers as 0xFF92A22D, 0x122C2199, 0x08E821A9. Key fingerprint for key 0xff92a22d = CDE4096152DFBB9C-6192ACE4290CFC04. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 04:46:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA05000 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 04:46:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA11828 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 04:42:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA11824 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 04:42:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgrsA-00038yC; Sun, 5 Jan 97 04:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Wood Subject: print from pico Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 10:52:28 -0500 Message-ID: <32CBD9BB.68E9@intermicro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have Pine 3.95 and Pico 2.9. I have set up Pico as an external editor and I can successfully ^_ to use Pico. What I would like to do is use Pico as an external editor from the main menu of Pine. I also want to be able to print from Pico to a system printer. In other words, Pico would be a great word processor if I could choose a printer. Any suggestions? -Eric Wood From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:06:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA05702 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:06:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA14538 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:02:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA14534 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 07:02:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgu3j-00038uC; Sun, 5 Jan 97 07:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zod@walrus.com (Charles Hope) Subject: Re: Using Pine 3.94 with POP3 Date: 4 Jan 1997 06:33:25 GMT Message-ID: <5aktjl$1lh@alice.walrus.com> References: <199701011605.KAA10130@Stormbringer.InterL.net> Jint (jint711@netcom.com) wrote: : On Wed, 1 Jan 1997, Jason Englander wrote: : > : > If you leave the 'normal' inbox the way it is (reading mail from : > /usr/spool/mail/username), but you enable incoming folders (one of : > the many checkboxes in Pine's setup), then you add that part under : > the Incoming-Folders= field. : > : > Incoming-Folders="POP Account #1" {mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX, : > "POP Account #2" {mail.otherisp.com/pop3}INBOX, : > "POP Account #3" {mail.1234.org}INBOX I haven't tried this. I have pointed my entire inbox at the POP server by setting inbox-path={host/pop3}inbox. But then I either have to choose between by POP server or my local one, and not both. This method you have here is better (if it works for me.) How can you send outgoing mail through the POP server using Pine 3.91? Even with the method I have been using, still mail gets sent from my own account, and not the POP server. Thanks! Charles From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 10:00:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA06744 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 10:00:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA14891 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 09:57:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA14887 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 09:57:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vgwlm-00038uC; Sun, 5 Jan 97 09:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: ipop3d security.. Date: Mon, 30 Dec 1996 15:57:16 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 26 Dec 1996, Hynek Med wrote: > there has been a security hole in a POP3 daemon (some buffer overflow > problem), is pine's ipop3d safe from this? To the best of my knowledge (I wrote it), this is the case. The code is very careful when it is root, and it setuids itself to the user as soon as it is logged in. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:56:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA09510 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA20415 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:50:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (mailhost1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA20405 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:50:18 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA01490; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:50:14 -0800 Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 15:50:14 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Kevin Berry cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unix POP client? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII It's also because when most people think of POP, they assume *offline* access, which Pine doesn't do yet. (Pine uses POP in "quasi-online" mode --within the limitations of POP-- so the connection to the server is maintained during the session.) By the way, the Pine FAQ has a section on using POP. -teg On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Kevin Berry wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Fabrizio Talucci wrote: > > > Paul Southworth wrote: > > > inbox-path={your.mail.host/pop3}inbox > > > > and I confirm; it is undocumented. > > > > Does anyone knows why? > > I think it has something to do with the fact that doesn't seem quite > perfected, yet. Yes, it functions and all, but, one seems to have to > restart pine in order to retrieve new mail. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 16:22:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA09733 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 16:22:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA20688 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 16:18:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasdl01.vsnl.net.in (giasdl01.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA20684 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 16:18:01 -0800 Received: by giasdl01.vsnl.net.in; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/23Apr96-0134AM) id AA15316; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:50:51 +0500 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:50:51 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: SANDEEP SAXENA To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:08:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA09329 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:08:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA21202 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:03:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cln.etc.bc.ca (cln.etc.bc.ca [142.44.5.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA21197 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:03:49 -0800 Received: from [142.32.104.225] (slippp225.dial.gov.bc.ca [142.32.104.225]) by cln.etc.bc.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA12147 for <"pine-info@cac.washington.edu">; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:03:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:04:29 -0700 To: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu"@cln.etc.bc.ca From: sallan@cln.etc.bc.ca (Sandy Allan) Subject: error saving configuration in file When using Pine on CLN I get the following message: error saving configuration in file"/home/sallan/.pinerc" Disc quota exceeded. Please advise as to how to correct this. S.Allan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 18:19:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA10643 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 18:19:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA22166 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 18:15:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cln.etc.bc.ca (cln.etc.bc.ca [142.44.5.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA22161 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 18:15:14 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by cln.etc.bc.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA17479; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 18:15:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:13:38 +0800 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:08:29 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Sandy Allan cc: "pine-info@cac.washington.edu"@cln.etc.bc.ca Subject: Re: error saving configuration in file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Sandy Allan wrote: > When using Pine on CLN I get the following message: error saving > configuration in file"/home/sallan/.pinerc" Disc quota exceeded. Please > advise as to how to correct this. This is an error which is "local" to your system. Your system is trying to tell you that you are using more disk space than you are alloted. You can do several things. 1. Delete some existing files to create more space. 2. Contact the system admin of your system and request more allotment. Hope this helps, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:29:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA11741 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:29:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA22067 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:24:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA22063 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 20:24:18 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA08244; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:56:53 +0530 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:56:52 +0530 (IST) From: SARAWGI VIPUL PARMANAND X-Sender: vps@giasbma To: Bruce Toews cc: Tatiana Suzanne Baldwin , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, i am trying to load slirp or tia to optimise my shell connection. i am using pine 3.93 and have a 14.4 shell line with a p100 chip. now, i have downloaded slirp as shareware but those need to be compiled and i don't have a unix machine nor does my service provider very enthusiastic about the whole idea. so is there a way of getting a .exe version of slirp or tia. and what config changes do i need to make to pine? thanks and bye, ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:13:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA12215 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA22596 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:09:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA22592 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:09:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vh7Io-00038zC; Sun, 5 Jan 97 21:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Juergen Frost Subject: Re: printing from pine Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 17:52:51 GMT On 4 Jan 1997, Judy Mason wrote: > ... > The problem is that when she prints the message, depending on the > printer, the prin is so small you can't read it, or so big it can't fit on > the page. She has no probems with other printing jobs, just from Pine. > > I've tried changing printers, no difference. > > I've tried changing the printer setups, nothing. > I'd the same problem. After some experiences, only "raw-printing" was possible (without some print-filter, no layout, mismatching of any special latin-1-chars). Now I've setup my own - working fine - printer: Enter name ...: MyPrinterName Enter command for printer: cat $1 > /tmp/tmp1 && lpr -Pyour_printer /tmp/tmp1 && rm /tmp/tmp1 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this didn't work in pine as "Standard UNIX print command" (why?... I don't know) Hope, it was an usefull hit. Juergen -- Juergen Frost - juergenf@jfix.soem.thur.de PGP-Key available by eMail From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:38:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA12491 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:38:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA24369 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:34:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA24365 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:34:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vh7cu-00038uC; Sun, 5 Jan 97 21:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Folders with unanswered messages - which ones? Date: 5 Jan 1997 10:20:24 -0500 Message-ID: References: Marco De la Cruz writes: >That is, is there any way to tell Pine to show >me whether there are unanswered messages inside a given >folder without actually listing its contents? If you're on a system that has egrep, you can do this: egrep "^X-Status: [^A]" foldername If anything shows up, you have unanswered messages. You could do the following to find out how many unanswered messages: egrep "^X-Status: [^A]" foldername | wc -l What this does is look through the folder for every line that starts with `X-Status: ' followed by anything other than `A' (which means answered. Good luck, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:50:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA12612 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:50:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA22995 for pine-info-out; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:46:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA22991 for ; Sun, 5 Jan 1997 21:46:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vh7om-00038zC; Sun, 5 Jan 97 21:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ones-And-Zeros@prodigy.net Subject: ! MASS POST Was Here! (itbMpG) Date: Mon, 06 Jan 97 05:32:03 GMT Message-ID: <5aq2pl$3no6@usenet1y.prodigy.net> MASS POST--the program by Ones and Zeros--has been used to send this message to thousands of newsgroups. (itbMpG) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:40:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA13982 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:40:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA26533 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:35:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Stormbringer.InterL.net (Stormbringer.InterL.net [205.160.214.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA26529 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:35:16 -0800 Received: from jasoneng (pm2-adr44.interl.net [205.244.161.44]) by Stormbringer.InterL.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id CAA30488; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:31:13 -0600 Message-Id: <199701060831.CAA30488@Stormbringer.InterL.net> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Jason Englander" To: zod@walrus.com Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:35:12 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Using Pine 3.94 with POP3 CC: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Priority: normal X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.50) > I haven't tried this. I have pointed my entire inbox at the POP server by > setting inbox-path={host/pop3}inbox. But then I either have to choose > between by POP server or my local one, and not both. This method you have > here is better (if it works for me.) I used to use this method, it's nice to be able to read local mail and remote mail by picking another folder. ...now I use fetchmail to throw it all into /usr/spool/mail/username > How can you send outgoing mail through the POP server using Pine 3.91? > Even with the method I have been using, still mail gets sent from my own > account, and not the POP server. It's been a while since I used 3.91, but check if you can set 'smtp- server' in Pine's configuration. If it's blank, Pine will use the system's MDA (mail delivery agent) - usually sendmail or smail, but if you set it to something like 'mailhost.yourisp.com' it'll send the mail 'through the POP server'. If you mean, how do you get the From: tag to show your 'real' e-mail address, that's a whole other ballpark. You'll need to recompile Pine, but I think you'll probably have to upgrade to a newer version (3.95 is current) before you can recompile it to ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM. Jason =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- E-mail: jasoneng@interl.net, @isonline.com, @usa.net Home: http://www.interl.net/~jasoneng/ Linux: http://nll.home.ml.org/ PGP Key: homepage + pgpkey.asc =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:54:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA14079 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:54:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA26683 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:49:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA26679 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:49:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhAht-00038uC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 00:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Clark Subject: Re: The PINE Manual Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 14:33:59 -0800 Message-ID: <32CEDAD7.78E9@jamesclark.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit alewis@shell.mpsi.net wrote: > > How can I filter messages in Pine so that they are filtered into different > mailboxes upon receipt? In my experience, I have found that the Unix program Procmail handles this quite well. I use it to filter messages into different folders within Pine depending on who they are from or what subject is used. I also use it to filter junk/spam email to /dev/null when needed. I have a nice little blacklist going in my rc.maillists file. :) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:56:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA14112 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:56:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA25204 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:49:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA25200 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 00:49:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhAht-00038zC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 00:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Clark Subject: Re: ABUSE: comp.mail.pine Date: Sat, 04 Jan 1997 14:31:30 -0800 Message-ID: <32CEDA42.5C0A@jamesclark.com> References: <5a7e9c$ptv$1@mark.ucdavis.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From comp.mail.pine wrote: > > 7:30pm I received a very long junk email from John Lester, > gemsmaker@nicers.com. The letter was addressed to "From > comp.mail.pine". > > If you post to comp.mail.pine, be prepared to be entered on John Lester's > junk email list. The junk email that I received is appended to the > bottom of this post. Thanks for the warning. I've entered this prick's email address into my Procmail filter file, so now all his email will go to /dev/null before it even reaches my inbox. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 01:39:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA14388 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 01:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA27200 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 01:34:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA27196 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 01:34:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhBRc-00038uC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 01:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us (Robert Braver) Subject: cmsg cancel <5aq2pl$3no6@usenet1y.prodigy.net> Date: 6 Jan 1997 06:12:21 GMT Control: cancel <5aq2pl$3no6@usenet1y.prodigy.net> Message-ID: Spam cancelled. Autocancel spam type: ONESZEROS Original Subject: ! MASS POST Was Here! (itbMpG) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:23:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA14733 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:23:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA27576 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:11:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA27572 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:10:56 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:08:47 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA04280; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:09:52 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:09:49 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Steve Lamb cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Getting passwords saved on PINE In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" "No, but there is a better way"... PC-Pine offers you the option of saving your username and password because on the whole: a) PCs are single user machines and locked in people's offices and so can have passwords saved away in this manner; b) are untrustworthy in a general sense because software can be run by arbitrary users to make them do Naughty Things. The latter makes it impractical to use the more general protection mechanism that is used by the UNIX variants of Pine. This is the "rsh mechanism". Basically you need to do two things: 1. Set your IMAP server software up to allow pre-authenticated connections. This is done very easily simply by making a symbolic link so that /etc/rimapd points to the real imapd executable. 2. Set up rsh access to your IMAP server computer. This is a little trickier, and must be done with care. Bacially you need to tell the IMAP computer to "trust" (allow access without having to specify a username and password) from certain other hosts you use. This is the standard "rsh" command, which alllows you to execute a command on a trusting host without having to specify a username and password. It knows the username to use because of the wonderfully magic rsh software. Try reading your man pages about "rsh" (the command to do the remote command), ".rhosts" (the per-user file which controls access) and "hosts.equiv" (the systemwide file which controls access). (The latter two man pages may in fact be one and the same.) Pine tries to open a pre-authenticated rsh connection before failing down to a standard connection (to port 143) and prompting for a username and password. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 4 Jan 1997, Steve Lamb wrote: > I have got pine on my OS/2 box and it has a feature to save the IMAP > name/password. I also want this feature on Linux and FreeBSD but cannot > fine how to do it in the man pages. Does such a feature exist? > > -- > - - - ---===+{ }+===--- - - - > Steve C. Lamb > @..@ 'Bud' @..@ 'weis' @..@ 'er!' > (-==-)--/ (--==)--/ (--=-)--/ > ( >__< ) ( >__< ) ( >__< ) > ^^ ~~ ^^ ^^ ~~ ^^ ^^ ~~ ^^ > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:24:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA14744 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA27704 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:19:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA27699 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 02:19:01 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:16:06 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA08041; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:17:08 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:17:08 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: M Shariful Anam cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: backgr mail sedning In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" When you compiled Pine did you find and uncomment the "BACKGROUND_POST" definition within the pine/osedp/os-xxx.h file? If this *EXPERIMENTAL* feature is supported on your flavour of UNIX you should then have an "enable-background-sending" option in your Setup Configuration screen. See the Release Notes ("R" at the Main Menu) for more information (search for "background" by giving the command "W" then "backgorund".). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, M Shariful Anam wrote: > Hi, > > I was using Pine3.91, and have upgraded to 3.95. It's much more cool. But > facing one inconvenience. When I send a mail in 3.95 by pressing Ctrl-X, > it seems, it tries to send the mail to the MTA (on our case sendmail) > immediately, which in turn return success after looking up the host name > of the address etc. As a result sendmail mail has become a bit > problematic, specially if some nameserver is down etc. So how I can I > change the setup on 3.95 for complete background mail sending? > > I compiled the sources on a 1.2.13 Linux kernel. > > Please cc me too when replying if you're reading this on a > newsgroup/mailing list. > > Thanx. > > --- > M Shariful Anam > > Kaifnet Services -- Bangladesh > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:54:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA16402 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:53:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA28801 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:50:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA28797 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 05:50:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhFQc-00038BC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 05:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fabrizio Talucci Subject: Re: PC Pine 3.95 & POP-MAIL Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 19:22:21 -0800 Message-ID: <32CDCCED.2C1C@cs.ucla.edu> References: <01bbf9a1$751b60c0$5e7a48a6@chester.rcc.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chester Paul Sgroi wrote: > > Greetings: > > I have just installed and am trying to properly configure the 32-bit > version of PC Pine 3.95 to retrieve mail from my ISP's POP-Mail server. I > am running Windows 95 and have setup all the fields accordingly. However, > my ISP's mail server keeps on refusing the connection to my Pine client. > > In the INBOX field within my .pinerc file I specified the syntax as: > > {pop01.ny.us.ibm.net} INBOX > > When I then run Pine, it comes up with the error: Can't connect to > {pop01.ny.us.ibm.net}143, refused 100061. > > I then tried an unsupported hack mentioned earlier in this group by > specifiying the inbox path as > > {pop01.ny.us.ibm.net/110} INBOX > > and received the error message "Invalid remote specification". PINE (for UNIX) has got POP feature. I use it! I do not know about PINE for PC. Chek carefully the PINE WEB page. Try to replace 110 with pop3. -- ___ __ _ __ __ __ /_ /_| /_> /_/ / / / / / E-mail: talucci@cs.ucla.edu / / | /_> / | / /_ / /_/ AX25:IK7NCU@IK7MXD.PUG.ITA.EU ___ __ __ __ / /_| / / / / ' / ' / Addr: UCLA-CSD Boelter Hall 3771 / / | /_ /_/ /_/ /_/ / Tel:(310) Off. 2068589 Home 4450647 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 07:15:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA17145 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 07:15:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA01142 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 07:10:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA01138 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 07:10:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhGeP-00038BC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 07:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Sudharshan. S." Subject: Re: help Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 16:53:34 +0500 Message-ID: <32D0E7BE.6D4D@inf.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Kevin, Kevin Michael Kraft wrote: > > To Whom It May Concern: > > Somehow my INBOX has become a read-only folder, and I can't seem to find > out how I changed it. Subsequently I have not been able to delete the one > message in the folder. > Please let me know what I need to do to remedy the problem Check the permissions of your INBOX (could be /usr/mail/kmk). Make sure that it has 'rw' permissions for yourself and the group. Hope it helps, Sudharshan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:10:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA18551 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:10:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA00524 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:05:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA00520 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:05:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhHXh-00038BC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 08:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: leslie@interpac.net Subject: Saving Email Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 05:08:15 GMT Message-ID: <5afn2l$eqi@pegasus.interpac.net> I'm new to Pine and would like to know if I can save my messages to a floppy disk. I'm going to the mainland and would like to be able to save my important messages. Also, when I start to type each letter is duplicated. Does that have something to do with the echo setting? My newserver is VERY unreliable. Would you also send an email reply to me at leslie@interpac.net. Thanks, Leslie aka DitzyB From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:37:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA19470 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA02742 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:32:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from whitman.gmu.edu (whitman.gmu.edu [129.174.177.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA02737 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 08:32:15 -0800 Received: from localhost (jblackto@localhost) by whitman.gmu.edu (8.8.4/8.6.9) with SMTP id LAA12619 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:32:17 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 11:32:17 -0500 (EST) From: Master of Mayhem To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Anonymous e-mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I need to know how to send an anonymous e-mail message. It's for a project that I'm doing in my Computer Applications class with Jeremy Sidman From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:09:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA20345 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:09:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA03523 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:04:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA03507 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:04:10 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA13861; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:37:06 +0530 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:37:06 +0530 (IST) From: Sarawgi Vipul X-Sender: vps@giasbma To: Master of Mayhem cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: alt editor. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, i am trying to use slirp to enhance the capability of my shell account. however i presume i need to make certain changes in pine with respect to the alternate editor parameter for the same. the editor available on my server is pico. i would be thankful to receive any tips regarging this. ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:19:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA20688 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:19:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA03917 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:15:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA03911 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 09:15:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhIbP-00038BC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 09:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: goldt@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Sven Goldt) Subject: To save disk space... Date: 2 Jan 1997 09:57:05 GMT Message-ID: <5ag0ph$mbl@sunsystem5.informatik.tu-muenchen.de> Hi, is there a way to make pine not asking this famous question and just keep the old messages ? Sven -- The only limits are in your mind ! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:38:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA22780 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:38:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA04445 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:30:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA04441 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:30:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhJm8-00038BC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 10:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: VAL RAUCH Subject: Can I save or export part of an e-mail message only? Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:50:10 -0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When reading a long message sometimes I would like to save a few lines only to a folder. How can one do this ? I am currently forwarding the message to myself with the unwanted portion deleted. This is rather cumbersome if the message is several pages long and I only want to save 5 lines of it. Any helpful pointers, suggestions ? Thanks, Val From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:42:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA22847 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA06233 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:37:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kcgw1.att.com (kcgw1.att.com [192.128.133.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA06229; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 10:37:01 -0800 From: vikas@insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from socrates.insight.att.com by kcig1.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id MAA28511; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 12:31:36 -0600 Received: from joshua.insight.att.com (joshua.insight.att.com [135.205.200.52]) by socrates.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA17915; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:36:50 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:36:46 -0500 (EST) Original-From: Vikas Agnihotri Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com To: Pine Developers Original-cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sug (ID IG4Y8): Mouse support in Pine 3.95 in an Xterm Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using Pine 3.95 on Solaris 2.5 in an Xterm window. I am using 'vim' editor as my alternate editor all the time. Problem: Whenever I first launch up Pine with all the mouse features enabled, it works fine and recognizes my mouse clicks and takes the appropriate action. Now when I compose a new mail or a reply, an action which fires up my alternate editor, this editor is also mouse-aware. It interprets my mouse clicks and does with it whatever it is designed to do. When I exit the editor and send the reply/mail and go back to the main Index window, or any other Pine screen, my mouse clicks are totally ignored. Pine seems to have lost control of the mouse! When I now exit Pine and launch it again, the whole scenario is repeated. i.e. it initially is mouse-aware, but as soon as I launch a editor that is also mouse-aware, Pine loses the battle! I use the 'slrn' newsreader with 'vim' , both of which are mouse-aware programs and I dont have this problem there! Looks like something peculiar to Pine 3.95. Please look into it and let me know what can be done. Thanks, --Vikas From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:32:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA27557 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA11033 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:28:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA11027 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:28:09 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (dlm@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA24477 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:28:07 -0800 X-Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for dlm+postmaster; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:18:12 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by tupperware.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA26837 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:18:12 -0800 (PST) X-Received: from pfizer.com (pfizergate.pfizer.com [192.77.198.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA16487 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 16:18:09 -0800 X-Received: from gsun07.Clinical by pfizer.com (SMI-8.6/3.1.090690-Pfizer Inc) id AAA11795; Sat, 4 Jan 1997 00:21:24 GMT X-Received: from gsun07 by gsun07.Clinical (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id TAA12236; Fri, 3 Jan 1997 19:17:21 -0500 Message-ID: <32CDA191.B05@groton.pfizer.com> Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 19:17:21 -0500 From: hp X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Building/installing to Sunos5.5.1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------594771FC3BAB" ReSent-Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:27:59 -0800 (PST) ReSent-From: David L Miller ReSent-To: Pine Info Mailing List ReSent-Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------594771FC3BAB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am trying to install PINE and PICO on a SunOS5.5.1 platform run on sparcserver 1000e machines. First I run "build clean" Then I run "build sun" with the results below. Can someone tell me what is going wrong? It gives me Error 1 and Error 2 saying some files aren't there. --------------594771FC3BAB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="junk" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="junk" gsun07//home/parkh/pine3.95 % build sun make args are "CC=cc " ln: cannot create c-client: File exists ln: cannot create imapd: File exists Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=non-ANSI OS=sun make[1]: Entering directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap' echo sun > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s non-ANSI systype cd non-ANSI/c-client; make sun make[2]: Entering directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make mtest OS=sun EXTRADRIVERS="" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto MAILSPOOL=/usr/spool/mail \ ACTIVEFILE=/usr/lib/news/active NEWSSPOOL=/usr/spool/news \ CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE " \ LDFLAGS="-ldl" make[3]: Entering directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh tenex mtx mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f CCTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo cc > CCTYPE echo -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE > CFLAGS echo -ldl > LDFLAGS ln -s os_sun.h osdep.h cc -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE -c mail.c In file included from mail.c:40: osdep.h:37: sys/dir.h: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [mail.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make[2]: *** [sun] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make[1]: *** [build] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap' make: *** [sun] Error 2 Making Pico and Pilot rm -f osdep.c cp os_unix.c osdep.c rm -f osdep.h cp os_unix.h osdep.h cc -c -g -Dsun -DJOB_CONTROL -ldl -DMOUSE attach.c In file included from attach.c:33: osdep.h:58: sys/dir.h: No such file or directory make: *** [attach.o] Error 1 Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-sun.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSUN -DSYSTYPE=\"SUN\" -DMOUSE -c addrbook.c In file included from headers.h:65, from addrbook.c:54: ../c-client/osdep.h:37: sys/dir.h: No such file or directory make: *** [addrbook.o] Error 1 Links to executables are in bin directory: build: size: not found Done --------------594771FC3BAB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="junk" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="junk" gsun07//home/parkh/pine3.95 % build sun make args are "CC=cc " ln: cannot create c-client: File exists ln: cannot create imapd: File exists Making c-client library, mtest and imapd make build SYSTYPE=non-ANSI OS=sun make[1]: Entering directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap' echo sun > OSTYPE rm -rf systype ln -s non-ANSI systype cd non-ANSI/c-client; make sun make[2]: Entering directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make mtest OS=sun EXTRADRIVERS="" \ STDPROTO=bezerkproto MAILSPOOL=/usr/spool/mail \ ACTIVEFILE=/usr/lib/news/active NEWSSPOOL=/usr/spool/news \ CFLAGS="-g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE " \ LDFLAGS="-ldl" make[3]: Entering directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' ./drivers imap nntp pop3 mh tenex mtx mmdf bezerk news phile dummy rm -f CCTYPE CFLAGS LDFLAGS osdep.h echo cc > CCTYPE echo -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE > CFLAGS echo -ldl > LDFLAGS ln -s os_sun.h osdep.h cc -g -Dconst= -DNFSKLUDGE -c mail.c In file included from mail.c:40: osdep.h:37: sys/dir.h: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [mail.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make[2]: *** [sun] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap/non-ANSI/c-client' make[1]: *** [build] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/parkh/pine3.95/imap' make: *** [sun] Error 2 Making Pico and Pilot rm -f osdep.c cp os_unix.c osdep.c rm -f osdep.h cp os_unix.h osdep.h cc -c -g -Dsun -DJOB_CONTROL -ldl -DMOUSE attach.c In file included from attach.c:33: osdep.h:58: sys/dir.h: No such file or directory make: *** [attach.o] Error 1 Making Pine. rm -f os.h ln -s osdep/os-sun.h os.h ./cmplhlp2.sh < pine.hlp > helptext.h cc -g -DDEBUG -Dconst= -DSUN -DSYSTYPE=\"SUN\" -DMOUSE -c addrbook.c In file included from headers.h:65, from addrbook.c:54: ../c-client/osdep.h:37: sys/dir.h: No such file or directory make: *** [addrbook.o] Error 1 Links to executables are in bin directory: build: size: not found Done --------------594771FC3BAB-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:01:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA28061 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:01:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA11606 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:47:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aip.org (pinet.aip.org [192.58.150.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA11602; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:47:49 -0800 Received: from localhost by jupiter (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA29626; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:45:50 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:45:49 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Amanatidis To: hp Cc: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu, David L Miller , Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Building/installing to Sunos5.5.1 In-Reply-To: <32CDA191.B05@groton.pfizer.com> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Try building for Solaris, not Sun. If you have GCC installed, type "build gso" if not, type "build sol". ##### Jim Amanatidis Tel: 516-576-2329 Email: jima@aip.org Fax: 516-349-7669 On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, hp wrote: > I am trying to install PINE and PICO on a SunOS5.5.1 platform > run on sparcserver 1000e machines. > > First I run "build clean" > > Then I run "build sun" with the results below. Can someone tell > me what is going wrong? It gives me Error 1 and Error 2 > saying some files aren't there. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:41:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA29400 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:41:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA12906 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:36:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA12902 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:36:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhNa5-00038BC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 14:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) Subject: Pico and nn: cutting off long lines? Date: 6 Jan 1997 22:11:40 GMT Message-ID: <5artas$85k@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> I'm using Pico 2.9 (because unlike many other editors it does automatic line wrapping) as my default editor for nn 6.5.1. Now when I'm writing an article which contains a header line longer than 255 or 256 characters (I'm not exactly sure) this line gets cut off, meaning only the first 255 or 256 characters are imported into the editor. Such a situation can occur for exaple for the References: line when doing a followuop to a faily long thread. Needless to say it's not nice to have that line being chopped off. What can I do about it short of using a different editor? Maybe recompiling pine? Is there any version of pine which does not have a fixed maximum of characters per line? What do the RFCs say about the maximum length a Usenet news or email header line is supposed to have? -- Georg Schwarz (schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de, kuroi@cs.tu-berlin.de, PGP 2.6ui) Institut für Theoretische Physik +49 30 314-24254 FAX -21130 IRC kuroi Technische Universität Berlin http://home.pages.de/~schwarz/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:11:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA30199 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:11:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA12334 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:06:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA12330 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:06:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhO5E-00038BC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 15:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fabrizio Talucci Subject: PINE vs EUDORA ! Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 14:17:41 -0800 Message-ID: <32D17A05.440E@cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I get access to my Unix server by phone with a MAC. Connecting in VT100 i have instructed my MAC VT 100 teminal emulation program to start PINE and put username and password automatically. Please note, MAC runs a simply, tiny VT100 emulation program, not a Mail program (such as EUDORA) in TCP/IP which requires a Powerful hardware (>386). THIS MEANS THAT YOU REQUIRE A SIMPLY VERY OLD MAC OR EVEN 8088 (XT!!) TO CHECK AND WRITE YOUR MAIL. Not only, you do not require even TCP/IP support, that normally it is not freeware. AND you need just a inexpensive 1200 or 2400 baud modem! Not a 14400 or more. If the Unix server has got LYNX capability, YOU CAN EVEN NAVIGATE THE NET WITH THIS SIMPLY EQUIPEMENT (of course without graphic. Do you really need it?). Note that if your terminal emulator has got Z-maodem capability, when LYNX use ftp instead of http, Lynx is capable to download files from the net in the Unix server but also, on request, to download them, in Z-modem protocol, from the net directly in you local terminal. Do you need more ? :-/ -- ___ __ _ __ __ __ /_ /_| /_> /_/ / / / / / E-mail: talucci@cs.ucla.edu / / | /_> / | / /_ / /_/ AX25:IK7NCU@IK7MXD.PUG.ITA.EU ___ __ __ __ / /_| / / / / ' / ' / Addr: UCLA-CSD Boelter Hall 3771 / / | /_ /_/ /_/ /_/ / Tel:(310) Off. 2068589 Home 4450647 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:18:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA30360 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:18:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA13885 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:11:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA13881 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:11:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhO8S-00038ZC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 15:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Robert Nicholson Subject: How do I add a custom header on _all_ outgoing messages? Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 20:31:58 +0000 Message-ID: <32D1613E.1941@dircon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anybody know how I can add a custom header to all outgoing messages in pine? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:41:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA30899 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:41:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA13092 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:36:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA13088 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:36:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhOWH-00038VC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 15:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Subject: Re: Anonymous e-mail Date: 6 Jan 1997 23:18:50 GMT Message-ID: <5as18q$i0j@cdshub.cdc.com> References: In article jblackto@whitman.gmu.edu (Master of Mayhem) wrote: > I need to know how to send an anonymous e-mail message. It's for a > project that I'm doing in my Computer Applications class with Jeremy > Sidman Without hacking the code, it is not possible to send an anonymous e-mail with pine. You'll have to use other means...which is out of scope for this discussion group. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:51:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA31120 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:51:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA13332 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:46:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA13314 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 15:45:55 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:45:03 +0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:45:03 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Robert Nicholson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I add a custom header on _all_ outgoing messages? In-Reply-To: <32D1613E.1941@dircon.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Robert Nicholson wrote: > Anybody know how I can add a custom header to all outgoing messages in > pine? What version of pine are you using? If you go to setup/config add search for the word "custom" you may find: OPTION: Customized-Headers You may add your own custom headers to all outgoing messages. Each header you specify here must include the header tag (Reply-To:, Approved:, etc.) and may optionally include a value for that header. If you want to see these custom headers each time you compose a message, you must add them to your default composer headers list (see above), otherwise they become part of the rich header set which you only see when you press the rich header (Ctrl-R) command. (BTW, some people call that RIF (Reading Is Fundamental) while others call it RTFM (I won't translate that one....) but if I (or others) were to say that we would risk being compared to a type of pocket bread). (More, BTW. Kind of ignore the last paragraph. It refers back to a pervious post...but I just had to get it out. Sorry. No offence intended or implied.) Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:16:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA31558 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA15499 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:11:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA15495 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:11:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhP4E-00038UC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 16:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Subject: Re: Reading HTML from 3.95 Date: 6 Jan 1997 23:27:54 GMT Message-ID: <5as1pq$j4m@cdshub.cdc.com> References: <32D13BF9.F93FF68@nando.net> In article <32D13BF9.F93FF68@nando.net> Heather Flanagan wrote: > Well, everything else seems to be working with our Pine 3.95 install on > Solaris 2.5.1, so why can't we view html format files? Any suggestions > on how to make pine thing html is just another text file? I need to do > this system-wide, so if it's a configuration I need to add or change in > the pine.conf file, that would be lovely. Good questions.... 1. You can't view html format "files" since the builtin editor of pine is not html aware. So, the MIME designation of text/html is not supported via a builtin method. 2. To view html format "file" you will need to make use of a mailcap file. The mailcap file is used to designate a mapping between an MIME type/sub-type and an external application. I don't happen to have the documentation handy on the format of mailcap entries. You should first check the pine release notes and then the "mailcap" entry in setup/config to see if they posess pointers to additional information. If not, feel free to email me directly and I'll do some digging for you. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:30:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA31894 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:30:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA14077 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:21:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA14073 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:21:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhPFu-00038UC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 16:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Subject: Re: exporting attachments Date: 6 Jan 1997 23:37:31 GMT Message-ID: <5as2br$jr9@cdshub.cdc.com> References: In article Paul Lunney wrote: > Is there any way to configure PINE such that when messages are exported, > any associated attachments are automatically converted to a uue(?) format > and stay with the export file? Exported? No. Why not "save" the messages to a file. This will save the entire message (header included) into a file as is. This means, of course, that if the attachments were MIME attachments they will still be MIME. Pine is not configurable to convert between MIME formated and uuencoded messages. > I get a lot of mail which currently I only have time every day to export > to a digest, delete, and read off-line. Problem is that attachments are > lost. > > Alternatively is there some way of configuring PINE to indicate which > posts have attachments on the index listing? No, not in the current release. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:40:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA32140 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:40:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA16121 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:36:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA16117 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 16:36:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhPV2-00038UC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 16:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: William C Bonner Message-ID: <32CF554A.6D89@lgx.com> Date: Sun, 05 Jan 1997 01:16:26 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: MIME Multipart Madness References: <5ajcuk$rgo@nr1.toronto.istar.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul O Bartlett wrote: > Just for information, I use Pine 3.94 under a flavor of Un*x. Pine > is MIME-compliant. When it receives an email with both text/plain and > text/html using MIME standards, it can handle it. Unfortunately, by > default it displays the unrendered text/html and tells me that the > text/plain is in an attachment. It will show me this just dandy > provided I go through additional keystrokes. So far I am unaware of > any configuration option to Pine (at my version level) which will > switch the order of preference. I subscribe to one mailing list in > which this situation is beginning to show up more and more. I can't remember the exact settings, but you CAN do it in your mailcap file so that text.plain gets shown instead of text/html. Wim. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:04:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA00758 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA16269 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:56:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA16265 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 17:56:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhQkS-00038UC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 17:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Mass mailing Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 14:38:37 +0000 Message-ID: References: <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> <5a1u6j$2r5@news1.voicenet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5a1u6j$2r5@news1.voicenet.com> On 28 Dec 1996, Bill D wrote: > In article <32C42B6C.771F@dolomitensport.telecom.at> in newsgroup > comp.mail.pine, LRC-Lienzer Dolomiten > wrote: > > >How can i send 1000s of emails ?? > > type > > 'rm -rf * pine' It should be noted this command should only be used if you want to sent truly mass mailings. If you just want to send mail to a dozen friends or so this command will not work. But if you want to send mail to 1000s (or 10000s) of strangers around the world, I enthusiastically recommend this. If your system administrator or ISP might object to you sending such mail, you should not ask about the readmail (rm) command before doing this, because they might get suspicious. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:30:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA00488 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA18267 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:26:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA18263 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 18:26:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhRDn-00038VC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 18:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pau Gorostiza Subject: Re: Terminal type ? Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 12:02:30 +0000 Message-ID: <32CBA3D6.1D1B@giga.sct.ub.es> References: <32C95F7A.F6@giga.sct.ub.es> <83zpyt8hil.fsf@odezia.thorsen.priv.no> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anders Jacobsen wrote: > Try (on the Linux prompt): > export TERM="vt100" It worked! Many thanks and happy new year... Pau > _______________________________________________________________________ > Anders Jacobsen andersja@stud.ntnu.no > Stud.Techn., NTNU http://www.stud.ntnu.no/~andersja/ > Fakultet for fysikk, informatikk og matematikk, NTNU From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 19:19:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA01383 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 19:19:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA17399 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 19:16:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA17395 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 19:16:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhS1D-00038UC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 19:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sysaakx@panther.gsu.edu (Andrew A. Kincaid) Subject: Zero byte "pinercXXXXXX" files? Date: 3 Jan 1997 19:01:39 GMT Message-ID: <5ajl2j$q1l@arachnid.Gsu.EDU> Does anyone know why Pine 3.95 (in Unix) would create these "pinerc021178" files out in user's home directories? -- Oh, and they are 0 bytes big. Does anyone know what these are, and how to stop them from being created? Thanks, Andrew Kincaid andru@gsu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:16:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA03371 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:16:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA21455 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:12:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA21451 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:12:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhUhT-00038UC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 22:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dodegaar@skypoint.com Subject: 3.95 problem any help? Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:23:29 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine Peoples: I am running a 3.95 program on another server. Everytime I want to post to a newsgroup - it will not send and I get an error message. I have done these things: (1st - it is run on Unix) rebuilt .newsrc file thrown out .tin file re-configured all pine in Setup with proper nntp settings. waddaya tink? d. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:53:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA03759 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:53:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA22027 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:50:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailgate22 (mailgate22-hme0.a001.sprintmail.com [205.137.196.54]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA22020 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:50:02 -0800 Received: by mailgate22 (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA17608; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:50:01 -0800 Received: from sdn-ts-001njnewap13.dialsprint.net(206.133.36.32) by mailfep1-hme1 via smap (KC5.24) id Q_10.1.1.4/Q_12805_1_32d1f1ea; Mon Jan 6 22:49:14 1997 Message-ID: <32D18386.5189@sprintmail.com> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 14:58:14 -0800 From: Mikhail Gorvits Organization: GVI Software X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-SI001A01 (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: current line obscured Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear Pine Users, I use pine on a college unix system, to which I telnet from my home computer. The problem I run into is the obscured current line. Whenever I move my cursor to any given line, in most of the interactive pine screens, the cursor, instead of blinking at the start of the line, brings with it a bar (of the same color as the text) which obscures the whole line. This means, for example, that I can't see the current message information in the inbox, and have to move to the next, or previous, message to read it. I also can't see the status line or the command keys in the command lines at the bottom. More importantly, I can't read the line that pops up at the bottom when pine requires more information from me or doesn't understand my command. Thus I don't know what pine is telling me, besides the few basic communications that I am familiar with. I would really appreciate if somebody who thinks they know what this problem could be would contact me. Is this a function of pine or my telnet program? As I am not a subscriber to the list, please reply to me directly at vitz@eden.rutgers.edu I thank all of you for your attention and apologize for the distraction. Sincerely, David Gorvits From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:55:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA02601 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:55:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA20555 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:52:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA20551 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:52:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhVKS-00038XC; Mon, 6 Jan 97 22:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Heather Flanagan Subject: Reading HTML from 3.95 Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 12:52:58 -0500 Message-ID: <32D13BF9.F93FF68@nando.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well, everything else seems to be working with our Pine 3.95 install on Solaris 2.5.1, so why can't we view html format files? Any suggestions on how to make pine thing html is just another text file? I need to do this system-wide, so if it's a configuration I need to add or change in the pine.conf file, that would be lovely. Thanks! heather f. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:57:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA03788 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:57:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA22062 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:54:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA22058 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 22:54:12 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:53:20 +0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:48:07 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: dodegaar@skypoint.com cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 3.95 problem any help? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Jan 1997 dodegaar@skypoint.com wrote: > I am running a 3.95 program on another server. Everytime I want > to post to a newsgroup - it will not send and I get an error message. > > I have done these things: > > (1st - it is run on Unix) > > rebuilt .newsrc file > thrown out .tin file > re-configured all pine in Setup with proper nntp > settings. > > waddaya tink? I tink you should tell us what the "error message" is..... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:42:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA04191 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:42:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA22740 for pine-info-out; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:33:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA22736 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 1997 23:33:18 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:32:26 +0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 15:27:13 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Mikhail Gorvits cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: current line obscured In-Reply-To: <32D18386.5189@sprintmail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 6 Jan 1997, Mikhail Gorvits wrote: > Dear Pine Users, > I use pine on a college unix system, to which I telnet from my > home computer. The problem I run into is the obscured current line. > Whenever I move my cursor to any given line, in most of the interactive > pine screens, the cursor, instead of blinking at the start of the line, > brings with it a bar (of the same color as the text) which obscures the > whole line. This means, for example, that I can't see the current > message information in the inbox, and have to move to the next, or > previous, message to read it. I also can't see the status line or the > command keys in the command lines at the bottom. More importantly, I > can't read the line that pops up at the bottom when pine requires more > information from me or doesn't understand my command. Thus I don't know > what pine is telling me, besides the few basic communications that I am > familiar with. > I would really appreciate if somebody who thinks they know what > this problem could be would contact me. Is this a function of pine or my > telnet program? As I am not a subscriber to the list, please reply to me > directly at vitz@eden.rutgers.edu > I thank all of you for your attention and apologize for the > distraction. The fact that your "highlight" (bar) color is the same color as the characters is normally a setting in your telnet client. If you can't figure out how to fix your telnet client then try going to setup/config and setting: [ ] assume-slow-link It will replace the highlight with ">". Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:38:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA04565 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:38:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA21936 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:33:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasdla.vsnl.net.in (giasdla.vsnl.net.in [202.54.15.161]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA21932 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:33:43 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasdla.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA06451; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:54:17 +0530 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:54:17 +0530 (IST) From: MANMEET SINGH X-Sender: singhm@giasdla To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: reporting a problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear sir I have received an e-mail from New York University school of medicine. It has a message with 4 attachments: 16KB textonly, 16KB dostext, 24KB dostext and 24KB worddoc. All these attachments are in OCTET-STREAM. These can't be viewed by the Pine software on which my connection is working. The attachments have been saved in the home directory. Information displayed about the attachments is as follows Type Application Subtype OCTET STREAM Encoding BASE64 Parameters Name= Textonly Description " " Approx. size 16,402 bytes Display method can't, unknown attachment format I shall be grateful if any body is able to fix the bug, and also help me know how to view and copy the files from home directory. With regards Gurcharan Singh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 01:02:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA04795 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 01:02:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA22279 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:59:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA22269 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 00:59:07 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:58:14 +0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:53:02 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: MANMEET SINGH cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reporting a problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, MANMEET SINGH wrote: > Dear sir > I have received an e-mail from New York University school of medicine. > It has a message with 4 attachments: 16KB textonly, 16KB dostext, 24KB > dostext and 24KB worddoc. All these attachments are in OCTET-STREAM. These > can't be viewed by the Pine software on which my connection is working. > The attachments have been saved in the home directory. Information > displayed about the attachments is as follows > Type Application > Subtype OCTET STREAM > Encoding BASE64 > Parameters Name= Textonly > Description " " > Approx. size 16,402 bytes > Display method can't, unknown attachment format > I shall be grateful if any body is able to fix the bug, and also > help me know how to view and copy the files from home directory. There is no bug. The MIME type application/octet-stream is the most basic way to transfer a binary file. There is no indication as to what application may be associated with the attached file. Had it been image/gif, or application/msword, then you may (or may not) have an entry in a mailcap file which tells pine what application to call in order to render the attachment. Since it was sent as application/octet-stream you will have to make some "assumptions" about the content, save the data to disk, manually call an application to reder the attachment. For example, there is a good chance that MSWord will be the application needed to render "24KB worddoc". If you don't know what application should be used for each attachment and you can't determine it my trial and error then you will need to contact the sender and ask them.... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 03:13:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA06000 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 03:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA23883 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 03:09:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from leofric.coventry.ac.uk (leofric.coventry.ac.uk [193.61.107.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA23875 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 03:08:59 -0800 Received: (from greaves@localhost) by leofric.coventry.ac.uk (8.8.4/8.6.11) id LAA11903; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:08:57 GMT Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:08:56 +0000 (GMT) From: Taff X-Sender: greaves@leofric To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Procamil Setup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am a final year student and am in need of some help setting up Procmail as I need it for my final year project. I downloaded a version form the Web and followed the instructions on setting it up from : http://www.cs.ruu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/mail/filtering-faq.htm I cannot get this to work at all, when it is installed I can recieve no mail in my area, I have discovered that when I remove the .forward file I can then recieve mail. The forward file contains the line : "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #nancym#" where the path has been corrected to my version of procmail and nancym has been replaced by my user name Any ideas would be greatly appreciated Many Thanks ******************************************************* * Elliott Greaves * ******************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 04:16:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA06020 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 04:16:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA26228 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 04:07:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA26224 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 04:07:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhaGz-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 04:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fabrizio Talucci Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: Thu, 02 Jan 1997 20:40:31 -0800 Message-ID: <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Paul Southworth wrote: > > mwu@crl.com (Matt Wu) writes: > > > >It'd be treat if PINE or elm could read from POP servers, but I don't > >think they can. > > Pine can communicate directly with POP3 servers. Undocumented feature. > > Tell your .pinerc to do inbox-path like so: > > inbox-path={your.mail.host/110}inbox > > Enjoy your treat. ;) > > --Paul Actually, i use inbox-path={your.mail.host/pop3}inbox and I confirm; it is undocumented. Does anyone knows why? -- ___ __ _ __ __ __ /_ /_| /_> /_/ / / / / / E-mail: talucci@cs.ucla.edu / / | /_> / | / /_ / /_/ AX25:IK7NCU@IK7MXD.PUG.ITA.EU ___ __ __ __ / /_| / / / / ' / ' / Addr: UCLA-CSD Boelter Hall 3771 / / | /_ /_/ /_/ /_/ / Tel:(310) Off. 2068589 Home 4450647 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:06:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA06796 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:06:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA26872 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:02:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ccug.wlv.ac.uk (ccug.wlv.ac.uk [134.220.1.46]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA26868 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:02:18 -0800 Received: from comp-dg.wlv.ac.uk [134.220.26.86] by ccug.wlv.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #1) id 0vhbAV-0007Qe-00; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 13:02:15 +0000 From: Georgie Porgie To: Ceaser the Geazer Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:59:29 -0500 (EST) Priority: HIGH X-Mailer: Simeon for Windows Version 4.0.7 X-Authentication: IMSP MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII What's happening Cease? How's the family? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:20:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA06856 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:20:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA25595 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:13:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA25591 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 05:12:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhbJC-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 05:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@euler.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Pico and nn: cutting off long lines? Date: 7 Jan 1997 10:58:11 GMT Message-ID: References: <5artas$85k@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> bernie@metapro.com.au (Bernd Felsche): > [...] standard vi has a wrap-margin setting. > "set wm=10" will wrap 10 characters from the end of line - > allowing you to be requoted ad nauseum in followups without > the line wrapping around annoyingly. But then you will get different results when you resize the screen/window of Vi while it is running when the "last character" have moved position. That's why I find VIM's "textwidth" variable so handy - you can set an explicit and to a line. :-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 06:50:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA07509 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 06:50:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA26656 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 06:44:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from muss.CIS.McMaster.CA (muss.CIS.McMaster.CA [130.113.64.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA26652 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 06:44:56 -0800 Received: (from warkend@localhost) by muss.CIS.McMaster.CA (8.7.1/8.7.1) id JAA19671; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:44:53 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:44:53 -0500 (EST) From: "D. Warkentin" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Message problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To Whom It may concern, I am not receiving my new mail despite the fact that I am informed that I have it. I am not certain if this is a problem with the system or just my account. I would appreciate any help that you can give me. Thank you for your time. Danielle Warkentin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:21:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA07806 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:21:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA28597 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:14:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA28590 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:14:05 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 23:13:07 +0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 23:13:07 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Taff cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Procamil Setup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Taff wrote: > I am a final year student and am in need of some help setting up > Procmail as I need it for my final year project. I downloaded a version > form the Web and followed the instructions on setting it up from : > > http://www.cs.ruu.nl/wais/html/na-dir/mail/filtering-faq.htm > > I cannot get this to work at all, when it is installed I can recieve no > mail in my area, I have discovered that when I remove the .forward file I > can then recieve mail. The forward file contains the line : > > "|IFS=' ' && exec /usr/local/bin/procmail -f- || exit 75 #nancym#" > > where the path has been corrected to my version of procmail > and nancym has been replaced by my user name > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated Procmail questions should be addressed at: procmail@Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:21:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA07836 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA27121 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:16:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA27117 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:16:31 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 23:15:41 +0800 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 23:15:40 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Georgie Porgie cc: Ceaser the Geazer Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Georgie Porgie wrote: > What's happening Cease? How's the family? Ahhh...my family's fine. I think you've got your address book a bit shuffled. You've reached the 1000's of folks at the pine users group. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:51:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA08683 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:51:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA29079 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:43:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fw.bluestone.com (fw.bluestone.com [199.99.173.252]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA29075 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 07:43:29 -0800 Received: by fw.bluestone.com; id KAA10786; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:43:27 -0500 (EST) Received: from blustone.operations.bluestone.com(204.107.210.200) by fw.bluestone.com via smap (3.2) id xma010769; Tue, 7 Jan 97 10:43:08 -0500 Received: from psgserver.bluestone.com by blustone.operations.bluestone.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA04136; Tue, 7 Jan 97 10:42:09 EST Received: from localhost by psgserver.bluestone.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA22872; Tue, 7 Jan 97 10:42:07 EST Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:42:07 -0500 (EST) From: Kiran Anantha X-Sender: kiran@psgserver To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine access 2 imap servers? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, Thanks for the reply and the clarification about the g {host2} command. I checked the tech notes at washington.edu but I still am not able to make it work. But this time I think it is because I don't exactly know how to specify the path to the mailbox. My mail mailbox is in /var/spool/mailbox/kiran and so I tried "remote {host2}/var.../mailbox/kiran/[]" and the relative path from my home dir but wasn't able to access the folder collection. The error I get reads: "**Empty List** Select here to try Re-Expanding" TIA, Kiran. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:30:45 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Kiran Anantha Subject: Re: pine access 2 imap servers? Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine On 3 Jan 1997, Kiran Anantha wrote: > I recently installed Netscape Mail Server on host2. host1 is the current > imap server machine. If I set my inbox to {host1}, I can access mail on > host1 and if I set it to {host2}, I can read mail from host2. > > What I would like to do is set inbox to {host1} and define a > folder-collection for mail on host2 (perhaps as "host2mail {host2}[]" ?!). Are your folders in your home directory on host2? If not, you need to specify the path (either absolute or relative to your home directory) between "{host2}" and "[]". For details, see http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes/config-notes.html#collections > But, though I can login I cannot access my mail on host2.(I get an error > saying empty folders). Is there > something wrong with my approach, syntax? What is the exact error message? > P.S: I can do a "g {host2}" and get to my mail on host2, so why can't > {host2}[] be a valid folder. "g {host2}" is equivalent to "g {host2}INBOX" which has special rules for determining its location. All other folders are relative to your home directory. --DLM From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:36:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA10212 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:36:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA00264 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:28:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA00260 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 08:28:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vheLt-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 08:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: barney Subject: help: error creating /mail/xxx.lock no such file or directory Date: 4 Jan 1997 18:37:51 GMT Message-ID: <5am81v$l5p@samba.rahul.net> Hi, I get this error message when I save a message to a folder: error creating /mail/xxx.lock no such file or directory I read part of the Pine FAQ and saw that creating a xxx.lock file is one of Pine's locking mechanisms, but how to I get the error message to stop? Is there something I can do from the end-users' standpoint, or is it something on my ISP's system admin side? Please email me if you can shed any light on this. Thanks you. -Gary From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:46:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA12070 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA00731 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:41:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from parallax.com (parallax.parallax.com [198.93.134.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA00724 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:41:01 -0800 Received: from checksix.parallax.com by parallax.com with smtp (Smail3.1.28.1 #8) id m0vhfcw-000vxvC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 09:47 PST Received: from checksix by checksix.parallax.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA16165; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:49:01 -0800 Message-ID: <32D28C8C.1869@parallax.com> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 09:49:00 -0800 From: "Alejandro B. Halili" Organization: Parallax Graphics X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4c) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How to read mail sent by NextMail using pine ... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, How do I read a piece of mail sent by Nextmail using pine ? Thanks, Alejandro e-mail: halili@parallax.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:47:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA12097 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:47:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA02225 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:40:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA02218 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 09:40:25 -0800 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id MAA58403; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:38:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:38:16 -0500 (EST) From: Gregor J Jones Reply-To: Gregor J Jones To: Fabrizio Talucci cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unix POP client? In-Reply-To: <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Fabrizio Talucci wrote: | Paul Southworth wrote: | > | > mwu@crl.com (Matt Wu) writes: | > > | > >It'd be treat if PINE or elm could read from POP servers, but I don't | > >think they can. | > | > Pine can communicate directly with POP3 servers. Undocumented feature. | > | | and I confirm; it is undocumented. ... not at all undocumented. Read the PINE FAQ at cac.washington.edu Yours Gregor __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) Department of Physiology 617-262-8205 (Home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 Boston MA 02118 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:03:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA13863 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:03:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA02654 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:58:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA02649 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 10:58:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhgho-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 10:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Primoz Peterlin Subject: HP-UX: reverse aliases Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 19:27:09 +0100 Message-ID: <32D2957D.53B2@biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello everybody -- I apologize in advance if this is a FAQ; I wasn't able to find the answer in the ``Pine Questions and Answers'' , though. With a patch (PHNE_4040 and its later replacements), sendmail on HP-UX 9.x can do "reverse aliasing", i.e. it can map the "From:" field: user@host -> name.surname@domain on the outgoing mail. It works fine with the HP-supplied elm, but not with Pine. I am guessing that Pine bypasses this setup by using its internal mail daemon. I would like Pine _always_ use /usr/lib/sendmail instead of its own, along with its settings. Only setting now empty smtp-server line in the configuration file doesn't seem to work. What am I doing wrong? Thank you in advance, Primoz -- Primoz Peterlin (peterlin@biofiz.mf.uni-lj.si) Fax:+386-61-131-5127 Institut za biofiziko MF, Lipiceva 2, SLO-1105 Ljubljana, Slovenija WWW page: http://sizif.mf.uni-lj.si/~peterlin/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:33:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA14536 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:33:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA04946 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:28:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA04936 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:28:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhhCA-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 11:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jago Subject: Separating Messages Date: Sun, 5 Jan 1997 19:51:58 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've developed a software that purges new mail messages in /var/mail, and it worked fine until some users switched from ELM to PINE. How does PINE separate the messages? I thought a good start was to look for "From" (does it also use linefeeds?), but this can be a problem if the body of messages contain "From" as well. Somehow PINE is smart enough to handle the messages. Any ideas? -- {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } { kings@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~kings/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc. } { "The way to do is to be." } {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:44:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA14873 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:44:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA03706 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:38:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA03702 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:38:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhhHV-00038YC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 11:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: "Out of free storage" Date: 7 Jan 1997 14:04:35 -0500 Message-ID: I just crashed out of Unix pine while trying to send a message and got this error message: Problem detected: "Out of free storage". Pine Exiting. Floating exception What does this mean and which machine is the problem on. I was: * logged on to machine a * responding to a message that was on machine b (accessed via IMAP) * using IMAP to save a copy of the message I was trying to to send on machine c * using an smtp server on machine d So, was this a problem on machine a, b, c, or d and what kind of problem is it? Thanks, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:50:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA15066 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:50:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA03834 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:45:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from is4.nyu.edu (IS4.NYU.EDU [128.122.253.137]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA03830 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 11:45:39 -0800 Received: from localhost by is4.nyu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/26Mar96-0600PM) id AA19713; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:45:33 -0500 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:45:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Louella B. Salvador" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: How do I fix disk quota exceeded message? Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please let me know how to fix a "disk quota exceeded message". Thank you for your help. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:07:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15449 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:07:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA05793 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:03:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA05786 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:03:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhhgI-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 11:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Markus Wahl Subject: problem with display-filter Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 13:40:34 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can't get the display-filter to work as I wish. I have a program (in ADA96) which filters the standard-IO and replaces some tokens with others. I want pine to activate the filter when for instance the token "{" is occurred in the text. I have tried the following in .pinerc; display-filters="{" /users/dtek/d95/d95wahl/src/ada/translate/program ... but without result. What is wrong? /Markus -- I Arkansas {r det helt okej f|r m{n att sl} sina fruar - men bara en g}ng i m}naden. -- Campus Teknik From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:10:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15492 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:10:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA05779 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:03:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from webbster.fccj.cc.fl.us (webbster.fccj.cc.fl.us [204.198.161.14]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA05769 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:02:57 -0800 Received: from mercury (mercury.fccj.cc.fl.us [204.198.160.50]) by webbster.fccj.cc.fl.us (8.6.8.1/SCA-6.6) with SMTP id TAA08861 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:54:00 GMT Received: from MCCS_ISS_FILE_SERVER_1/SpoolDir by mercury (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 7 Jan 97 15:02:06 -0500 Received: from SpoolDir by MCCS_ISS_FILE_SERVER_1 (Mercury 1.12); Tue, 7 Jan 97 15:01:54 -0500 Received: from amatt.fccj.cc.fl.us by mercury (Mercury 1.12) with ESMTP; Tue, 7 Jan 97 15:01:50 -0500 Message-ID: <32D2ABAD.4243@fccj.cc.fl.us> Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 15:01:49 -0500 From: amatt X-Sender: amatt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.0b1 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: filtering FAQ X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----------4BFB7E343CF12" ------------4BFB7E343CF12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Is using procmail usefull on filtering out just pine mail or can I use it with Netscape Mail 2.0 that I will run on Solaris? I am looking for a turnkey package that can do the job. thanks... ------------4BFB7E343CF12 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Is using procmail usefull on filtering out just pine mail or can I use it with Netscape Mail 2.0 that I will run on Solaris? I am looking for a turnkey package that can do the job. thanks... 
------------4BFB7E343CF12-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:30:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA15959 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:30:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA06393 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:27:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.d.umn.edu (mail.d.umn.edu [131.212.109.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA06388 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:27:06 -0800 Received: from ub.d.umn.edu (24555@ub-109.d.umn.edu [131.212.109.3]) by mail.d.umn.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA05366; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:26:45 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (dodegaa1@localhost) by ub.d.umn.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA20874; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:26:55 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: ub.d.umn.edu: dodegaa1 owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:26:55 -0600 (CST) From: "...drew" To: Edward.M.Greshk@cdc.com cc: drewsky , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 3.95 problem any help? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:48:07 +0800 (GMT) > From: Ed Greshko > To: dodegaar@skypoint.com > Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu > Subject: Re: 3.95 problem any help? > On Mon, 6 Jan 1997 dodegaar@skypoint.com wrote: > > I am running a 3.95 program on another server. Everytime I want > > to post to a newsgroup - it will not send and I get an error message. I tink you should tell us what the "error message" is.....> > Ed > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Ya... suurr... I vill tell ya.... the error message reads: no space (spool) [innwatch:32] 7559 lt 8000 Ya... suuurr... dat's vat it says. d.ole.o. the smiling norweign From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:10:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA18312 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:10:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA07208 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:04:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA07204 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:04:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhjaF-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 14:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Chillin' Dannyman" Subject: Re: News server authentication - how? Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:17:38 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have access to some newsgroups on my local server only via authentication, otherwise they'll turn up a "not-found" I've read that pine 3.95 allows authentication at the news server, but I can not figure out how to specify that it should authenticate, what must I do to get pine to login to the news server? It connects just fine for reading and posting, but if I want to see these certain groups, well, I must authenticate ... TIA, and if any replies could be Cc:ed to email I'd greatly appreciate, because then I can't miss the reply. :) =====///==================================================================== ====///===== This message brought to you by dannyman@dannyland.org ========= \\\///========== HOME PAGE! http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward ============ =\XX/Allen=171============================================================== [Nothing to Expunge! No messages marked "Deleted".] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:44:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA22947 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:44:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA13607 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:39:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA13603 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 16:39:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhm0q-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 16:37 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Hafford Subject: Yarn Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:23:21 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Where can I locate a version of Yarn or another off-line Pine reader that will work well with a DOS base system? paul From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:54:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA24985 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA16318 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:49:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opus.csd.uwm.edu (opus.csd.uwm.edu [129.89.124.22]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA16314 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:49:50 -0800 Received: (dave@localhost) by opus.csd.uwm.edu (8.8.3/8.6.4) id UAA18449 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 20:49:49 -0600 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 20:49:49 -0600 From: Dave Rasmussen Message-Id: <199701080249.UAA18449@opus.csd.uwm.edu> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: using lockf with pine? My site wants to use lockf as the primary locking scheme across mail platforms. What do I have to do to configure pine to do this? I saw in c-client/flock.c what appears to be code to do this, but I am currently confused what to set where in the configuration, which turns out to be on Digital Unix (have been using OSF as the config) ?? / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:26:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA25031 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:26:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA16780 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:23:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA16774 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 19:23:41 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:22:50 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:17:35 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: "...drew" cc: drewsky , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 3.95 problem any help? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, ...drew wrote: > Ya... suurr... I vill tell ya.... > > the error message reads: > > no space (spool) [innwatch:32] 7559 lt 8000 > > Ya... suuurr... dat's vat it says. Sounds like the news server has a problem with disk space. Not much pine can do to help on that one.... Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:14:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA27325 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:14:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA19279 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:10:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA19275 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:10:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhrAU-00038XC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 22:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: avir@black (Alexander Virtser) Subject: Pine Messages Date: 2 Jan 1997 21:56:52 GMT Message-ID: <5ahav4$4ko@news.huji.ac.il> How can I prevent Pine asking 'Move December messages to...'? I don't wanna Pine to move any messages at all! -- 10x & Byebye ... ___ _ ___ _ _ | . \ ___ <_>/ __> ___ | \ | E-mail .............: avir@math.bgu.ac.il | _// . \| |\__ \/ . \| | FidoNet ...................: 2:403/467.77 |_| \___/|_|<___/\___/|_\_| UltiNet ..................: 97:200/267.77 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:15:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA27369 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:15:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA17155 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:10:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA17151 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:10:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhrAV-00038YC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 22:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Burgh Subject: pine 3.95 sent-mail doesn't work. Date: Thu, 2 Jan 1997 15:42:34 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've noticed that now that we've switched to 3.95 pine doesn't save my sent messages in the sent-mail folder. I checked all the options in the config and didn't seem to find the appropriate feature. Am I missing something simple? --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eric B. Burgh e-mail: musashi@pha.jhu.edu Department of Physics and Astronomy ebb@jhu.edu The Johns Hopkins University http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~musashi Baltimore, Maryland Office: x4123 --------------------------------------------------------------------------- "From one thing know ten thousand things."--Miyamoto Musashi, Gorin No Sho --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:22:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA27441 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:22:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA17149 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:10:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA17145 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:10:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vhrAR-00038UC; Tue, 7 Jan 97 22:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ccx062@coventry.ac.uk (Chris Taylor) Subject: DSN (sendmail) support Date: 6 Jan 1997 09:31:58 GMT Message-ID: <5aqgqe$bre$1@zephyrus-fddi.coventry.ac.uk> Please find enclosed the patches to convert 3.9x (it was actually done on 3.95, but it should work on all of the 9 versions) to support DSN for sendmail 8.8. It provides a switch in the configuration screen to support DSN. When this has been turned on, you will be asked if you want delivery notification when you send the mail (^X in compose). Sendmail will then mail you back a DSN in a normal mail message. If people have problems with these patches (legitimate problems please, not diff/patch problems), please mail me and I will try and have a look, but nothing is guaranteed. ---- Cut Here -------- Cut Here -------- Cut Here -------- Cut Here ---- *** ./imap/ANSI/c-client/mail.h Tue Jun 4 00:04:29 1996 --- ./imap/ANSI/c-client/mail.h Tue Nov 26 12:02:24 1996 *************** *** 202,207 **** char *newsgroups; /* USENET newsgroups */ char *followup_to; /* USENET reply newsgroups */ char *references; /* USENET references */ } ENVELOPE; /* Primary body types */ --- 202,210 ---- char *newsgroups; /* USENET newsgroups */ char *followup_to; /* USENET reply newsgroups */ char *references; /* USENET references */ + + /* Chris T */ + int dsn; } ENVELOPE; /* Primary body types */ *** ./imap/ANSI/c-client/smtp.c Fri Jun 28 20:57:09 1996 --- ./imap/ANSI/c-client/smtp.c Tue Nov 26 12:06:09 1996 *************** *** 144,161 **** smtp_fake (stream,SMTPHARDERROR,"No recipients specified"); return NIL; } /* make sure stream is in good shape */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); strcpy (tmp,"FROM:<"); /* compose "MAIL FROM:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,env->return_path); strcat (tmp,">"); if (stream->ok_8bitmime) strcat (tmp," BODY=8BITMIME"); /* send "MAIL FROM" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,type,tmp) == SMTPOK)) return NIL; /* negotiate the recipients */ ! if (env->to) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->to,&error); ! if (env->cc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->cc,&error); ! if (env->bcc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->bcc,&error); if (error) { /* any recipients failed? */ /* reset the stream */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); --- 144,170 ---- smtp_fake (stream,SMTPHARDERROR,"No recipients specified"); return NIL; } + + /* Chris T */ + if(! stream->ok_dsn && env->dsn) { + smtp_fake (stream,SMTPHARDERROR,"MDA doesnt support delivery notification"); + env->dsn=0; + stream->ok_dsn=0; + } /* make sure stream is in good shape */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); strcpy (tmp,"FROM:<"); /* compose "MAIL FROM:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,env->return_path); strcat (tmp,">"); if (stream->ok_8bitmime) strcat (tmp," BODY=8BITMIME"); + /* Chris T */ + if (stream->ok_dsn) strcat (tmp," RET=HDRS"); /* send "MAIL FROM" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,type,tmp) == SMTPOK)) return NIL; /* negotiate the recipients */ ! if (env->to) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->to,&error,stream->ok_dsn && env->dsn); ! if (env->cc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->cc,&error,stream->ok_dsn && env->dsn); ! if (env->bcc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->bcc,&error,0); if (error) { /* any recipients failed? */ /* reset the stream */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); *************** *** 205,211 **** * pointer to error flag */ ! void smtp_rcpt (SMTPSTREAM *stream,ADDRESS *adr,long *error) { char tmp[MAILTMPLEN]; while (adr) { --- 214,220 ---- * pointer to error flag */ ! void smtp_rcpt (SMTPSTREAM *stream,ADDRESS *adr,long *error, int dsn) { char tmp[MAILTMPLEN]; while (adr) { *************** *** 215,220 **** strcpy (tmp,"TO:<"); /* compose "RCPT TO:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,adr); strcat (tmp,">"); /* send "RCPT TO" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,"RCPT",tmp) == SMTPOK)) { *error = T; /* note that an error occurred */ --- 224,231 ---- strcpy (tmp,"TO:<"); /* compose "RCPT TO:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,adr); strcat (tmp,">"); + /* Chris T */ + if(dsn) strcat(tmp," NOTIFY=SUCCESS"); /* send "RCPT TO" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,"RCPT",tmp) == SMTPOK)) { *error = T; /* note that an error occurred */ *************** *** 280,285 **** && (!tmp[4] || tmp[4] == ' ')) { if (tmp[4]) stream->size = atoi (tmp+5); stream->ok_size = T; } /* defined by SMTP Service Extensions */ else if (j == (((long) 'S' << 24) + ((long) 'E' << 16) + ('N' << 8) + 'D') --- 291,299 ---- && (!tmp[4] || tmp[4] == ' ')) { if (tmp[4]) stream->size = atoi (tmp+5); stream->ok_size = T; + } /* Chris T */ + else if (j == (((long) 'D' << 24) + ((long) 'S' << 16) + ('N' << 8))) { + stream->ok_dsn = T; } /* defined by SMTP Service Extensions */ else if (j == (((long) 'S' << 24) + ((long) 'E' << 16) + ('N' << 8) + 'D') *** ./imap/ANSI/c-client/smtp.h Wed Feb 7 00:09:54 1996 --- ./imap/ANSI/c-client/smtp.h Tue Nov 26 12:06:25 1996 *************** *** 74,79 **** unsigned int ok_turn : 1; /* supports TURN */ unsigned int ok_size : 1; /* supports SIZE */ unsigned int ok_8bitmime : 1; /* supports 8-bit MIME */ } SMTPSTREAM; /* Coddle certain compilers' 6-character symbol limitation */ --- 74,81 ---- unsigned int ok_turn : 1; /* supports TURN */ unsigned int ok_size : 1; /* supports SIZE */ unsigned int ok_8bitmime : 1; /* supports 8-bit MIME */ + /* Chris T */ + unsigned int ok_dsn : 1; /* supports DSN */ } SMTPSTREAM; /* Coddle certain compilers' 6-character symbol limitation */ *************** *** 101,107 **** long smtp_mail (SMTPSTREAM *stream,char *type,ENVELOPE *msg,BODY *body); void smtp_debug (SMTPSTREAM *stream); void smtp_nodebug (SMTPSTREAM *stream); ! void smtp_rcpt (SMTPSTREAM *stream,ADDRESS *adr,long *error); long smtp_send (SMTPSTREAM *stream,char *command,char *args); long smtp_reply (SMTPSTREAM *stream); long smtp_fake (SMTPSTREAM *stream,long code,char *text); --- 103,109 ---- long smtp_mail (SMTPSTREAM *stream,char *type,ENVELOPE *msg,BODY *body); void smtp_debug (SMTPSTREAM *stream); void smtp_nodebug (SMTPSTREAM *stream); ! void smtp_rcpt (SMTPSTREAM *stream,ADDRESS *adr,long *error,int); long smtp_send (SMTPSTREAM *stream,char *command,char *args); long smtp_reply (SMTPSTREAM *stream); long smtp_fake (SMTPSTREAM *stream,long code,char *text); *** ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/mail.h Tue Jun 4 00:05:38 1996 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/mail.h Tue Nov 26 12:00:33 1996 *************** *** 202,207 **** char *newsgroups; /* USENET newsgroups */ char *followup_to; /* USENET reply newsgroups */ char *references; /* USENET references */ } ENVELOPE; /* Primary body types */ --- 202,210 ---- char *newsgroups; /* USENET newsgroups */ char *followup_to; /* USENET reply newsgroups */ char *references; /* USENET references */ + + /* Chris T */ + int dsn; } ENVELOPE; /* Primary body types */ *** ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/smtp.c Fri Jun 28 21:26:40 1996 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/smtp.c Tue Nov 26 12:00:33 1996 *************** *** 154,171 **** smtp_fake (stream,SMTPHARDERROR,"No recipients specified"); return NIL; } /* make sure stream is in good shape */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); strcpy (tmp,"FROM:<"); /* compose "MAIL FROM:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,env->return_path); strcat (tmp,">"); if (stream->ok_8bitmime) strcat (tmp," BODY=8BITMIME"); /* send "MAIL FROM" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,type,tmp) == SMTPOK)) return NIL; /* negotiate the recipients */ ! if (env->to) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->to,&error); ! if (env->cc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->cc,&error); ! if (env->bcc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->bcc,&error); if (error) { /* any recipients failed? */ /* reset the stream */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); --- 154,180 ---- smtp_fake (stream,SMTPHARDERROR,"No recipients specified"); return NIL; } + + /* Chris T */ + if(! stream->ok_dsn && env->dsn) { + smtp_fake (stream,SMTPHARDERROR,"MDA doesnt support delivery notification"); + env->dsn=0; + stream->ok_dsn=0; + } /* make sure stream is in good shape */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); strcpy (tmp,"FROM:<"); /* compose "MAIL FROM:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,env->return_path); strcat (tmp,">"); if (stream->ok_8bitmime) strcat (tmp," BODY=8BITMIME"); + /* Chris T */ + if (stream->ok_dsn) strcat (tmp," RET=HDRS"); /* send "MAIL FROM" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,type,tmp) == SMTPOK)) return NIL; /* negotiate the recipients */ ! if (env->to) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->to,&error,stream->ok_dsn && env->dsn); ! if (env->cc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->cc,&error,stream->ok_dsn && env->dsn); ! if (env->bcc) smtp_rcpt (stream,env->bcc,&error,0); if (error) { /* any recipients failed? */ /* reset the stream */ smtp_send (stream,"RSET",NIL); *************** *** 217,226 **** * pointer to error flag */ ! void smtp_rcpt (stream,adr,error) SMTPSTREAM *stream; ADDRESS *adr; long *error; { char tmp[MAILTMPLEN]; while (adr) { --- 226,236 ---- * pointer to error flag */ ! void smtp_rcpt (stream,adr,error,dsn) SMTPSTREAM *stream; ADDRESS *adr; long *error; + int dsn; { char tmp[MAILTMPLEN]; while (adr) { *************** *** 230,235 **** strcpy (tmp,"TO:<"); /* compose "RCPT TO:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,adr); strcat (tmp,">"); /* send "RCPT TO" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,"RCPT",tmp) == SMTPOK)) { *error = T; /* note that an error occurred */ --- 240,247 ---- strcpy (tmp,"TO:<"); /* compose "RCPT TO:" */ rfc822_address (tmp,adr); strcat (tmp,">"); + /* Chris T */ + if(dsn) strcat(tmp," NOTIFY=SUCCESS"); /* send "RCPT TO" command */ if (!(smtp_send (stream,"RCPT",tmp) == SMTPOK)) { *error = T; /* note that an error occurred */ *************** *** 299,304 **** && (!tmp[4] || tmp[4] == ' ')) { if (tmp[4]) stream->size = atoi (tmp+5); stream->ok_size = T; } /* defined by SMTP Service Extensions */ else if (j == (((long) 'S' << 24) + ((long) 'E' << 16) + ('N' << 8) + 'D') --- 311,319 ---- && (!tmp[4] || tmp[4] == ' ')) { if (tmp[4]) stream->size = atoi (tmp+5); stream->ok_size = T; + } /* Chris T */ + else if (j == (((long) 'D' << 24) + ((long) 'S' << 16) + ('N' << 8))) { + stream->ok_dsn = T; } /* defined by SMTP Service Extensions */ else if (j == (((long) 'S' << 24) + ((long) 'E' << 16) + ('N' << 8) + 'D') *** ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/smtp.h Wed Feb 7 00:13:04 1996 --- ./imap/non-ANSI/c-client/smtp.h Tue Nov 26 12:00:33 1996 *************** *** 74,79 **** unsigned int ok_turn : 1; /* supports TURN */ unsigned int ok_size : 1; /* supports SIZE */ unsigned int ok_8bitmime : 1; /* supports 8-bit MIME */ } SMTPSTREAM; /* Coddle certain compilers' 6-character symbol limitation */ --- 74,81 ---- unsigned int ok_turn : 1; /* supports TURN */ unsigned int ok_size : 1; /* supports SIZE */ unsigned int ok_8bitmime : 1; /* supports 8-bit MIME */ + /* Chris T */ + unsigned int ok_dsn : 1; /* supports DSN */ } SMTPSTREAM; /* Coddle certain compilers' 6-character symbol limitation */ *** ./pine/init.c Thu Jul 11 00:05:31 1996 --- ./pine/init.c Tue Nov 26 12:00:57 1996 *************** *** 1351,1356 **** {"enable-cruise-mode-delete", F_ENABLE_TAB_DELETES}, {"enable-dot-files", F_ENABLE_DOT_FILES}, {"enable-dot-folders", F_ENABLE_DOT_FOLDERS}, {"enable-flag-cmd", F_ENABLE_FLAG}, {"enable-flag-screen-implicitly", F_FLAG_SCREEN_DFLT}, {"enable-full-header-cmd", F_ENABLE_FULL_HDR}, --- 1351,1358 ---- {"enable-cruise-mode-delete", F_ENABLE_TAB_DELETES}, {"enable-dot-files", F_ENABLE_DOT_FILES}, {"enable-dot-folders", F_ENABLE_DOT_FOLDERS}, + /* Chris T */ + {"enable-dsn", F_ENABLE_DSN}, {"enable-flag-cmd", F_ENABLE_FLAG}, {"enable-flag-screen-implicitly", F_FLAG_SCREEN_DFLT}, {"enable-full-header-cmd", F_ENABLE_FULL_HDR}, *** ./pine/other.c Thu Jul 11 00:05:59 1996 --- ./pine/other.c Tue Nov 26 12:00:58 1996 *************** *** 2442,2447 **** case F_ALLOW_TALK: return(h_config_allow_talk); #endif case F_ENABLE_MOUSE: return(h_config_enable_mouse); case F_ENABLE_XTERM_NEWMAIL: --- 2442,2450 ---- case F_ALLOW_TALK: return(h_config_allow_talk); #endif + /* Chris T */ + case F_ENABLE_DSN: + return(h_config_enable_dsn); case F_ENABLE_MOUSE: return(h_config_enable_mouse); case F_ENABLE_XTERM_NEWMAIL: *** ./pine/pine.h Thu Jul 11 19:15:44 1996 --- ./pine/pine.h Tue Nov 26 12:00:58 1996 *************** *** 1155,1160 **** #define F_ALLOW_GOTO 82 #define F_LAST_FEATURE 82 /* RESET WITH NEW FEATURES */ #if (F_LAST_FEATURE > (LARGEST_BITMAP - 1)) Whoa! Too many features! #endif --- 1155,1163 ---- #define F_ALLOW_GOTO 82 #define F_LAST_FEATURE 82 /* RESET WITH NEW FEATURES */ + /* Chris T */ + #define F_ENABLE_DSN 83 + #if (F_LAST_FEATURE > (LARGEST_BITMAP - 1)) Whoa! Too many features! #endif *** ./pine/send.c Mon Jul 8 19:10:50 1996 --- ./pine/send.c Tue Nov 26 12:01:00 1996 *************** *** 164,169 **** static long send_bytes_sent, send_bytes_to_send; static char *sending_filter_requested; static char verbose_requested, background_requested; static METAENV *send_header = NULL; --- 164,171 ---- static long send_bytes_sent, send_bytes_to_send; static char *sending_filter_requested; static char verbose_requested, background_requested; + /* Chris T */ + static char dsn_requested; static METAENV *send_header = NULL; *************** *** 2885,2890 **** pf_nobody->writehdr = 1; pf_nobody->localcopy = 1; } #if defined(BACKGROUND_POST) && defined(SIGCHLD) /* --- 2887,2899 ---- pf_nobody->writehdr = 1; pf_nobody->localcopy = 1; } + /* Chris T */ + if(dsn_requested) { + outgoing->dsn = 1; + } else { + outgoing->dsn = 0; + } + #if defined(BACKGROUND_POST) && defined(SIGCHLD) /* *************** *** 3358,3363 **** send_exit_for_pico() { int i, rv, c, verbose_label = 0, bg_label = 0, old_suspend; char *rstr = NULL, *p, *lc; void (*redraw)() = ps_global->redrawer; ESCKEY_S opts[9]; --- 3367,3374 ---- send_exit_for_pico() { int i, rv, c, verbose_label = 0, bg_label = 0, old_suspend; + /* Chris T */ + int ct; char *rstr = NULL, *p, *lc; void (*redraw)() = ps_global->redrawer; ESCKEY_S opts[9]; *************** *** 3520,3525 **** /* BUG: test kmpopped stuff? */ rv = radio_buttons(tmp_20k_buf, -FOOTER_ROWS(ps_global), opts, 'y', 'x', NO_HELP, RB_NORM); if(rv == 'y'){ /* user ACCEPTS! */ break; } --- 3531,3556 ---- /* BUG: test kmpopped stuff? */ rv = radio_buttons(tmp_20k_buf, -FOOTER_ROWS(ps_global), opts, 'y', 'x', NO_HELP, RB_NORM); + /* Chris T */ + + if(F_ON(F_ENABLE_DSN, ps_global) && rv != 'n' && rv != 'x') { + static ESCKEY_S dsn_opt[] = { + {'n', 'n', "N", "No"}, + {'y', 'y', "Y", "Yes"}, + {-1, 0, NULL, NULL} + }; + ct = radio_buttons("Delivery notification ? ", -FOOTER_ROWS(ps_global), dsn_opt, + 'n', 'x', NO_HELP, RB_NORM); + if(ct == 'y') { + dsn_requested=1; + } else if(ct == 'n') { + dsn_requested=0; + } else if(ct == 'x') { + rv = 'x'; + rstr = "Send Cancelled"; + break; + } + } if(rv == 'y'){ /* user ACCEPTS! */ break; } *************** *** 3999,4005 **** * If the user's asked for it, and we find that the first text * part (attachments all get b64'd) is non-7bit, ask for ESMTP. */ ! if(F_ON(F_ENABLE_8BIT, ps_global) && (bp = first_text_8bit(body))) smtp_opts |= SOP_ESMTP; #ifdef DEBUG --- 4030,4037 ---- * If the user's asked for it, and we find that the first text * part (attachments all get b64'd) is non-7bit, ask for ESMTP. */ ! /* Chris T */ ! if((F_ON(F_ENABLE_8BIT, ps_global) && (bp = first_text_8bit(body))) || F_ON(F_ENABLE_DSN,ps_global)) smtp_opts |= SOP_ESMTP; #ifdef DEBUG *** ./pine/pine.hlp Fri Jun 21 01:45:20 1996 --- ./pine/pine.hlp Tue Nov 26 12:35:20 1996 *************** *** 159,164 **** o Hooks for integral file transfer between desktop computer & Unix Pine o Builtin signature editor o Improved user feedback when Pine is busy or waiting This release also includes a stand-alone version of Pine's internal file browser, named \"pilot\" --for \"Pine's Lister Of Things\", and an --- 159,165 ---- o Hooks for integral file transfer between desktop computer & Unix Pine o Builtin signature editor o Improved user feedback when Pine is busy or waiting + o DSN support for sendmail This release also includes a stand-alone version of Pine's internal file browser, named \"pilot\" --for \"Pine's Lister Of Things\", and an *************** *** 365,370 **** o enable-8bit-nntp-posting o enable-cruise-mode (SPACE acts like tab when at end of msg) o enable-cruise-mode-delete (look at it once, then it disappears) o enable-dot-files (file browser normally hides dot files) o enable-dot-folders (folder lister normally hides them) o enable-flag-screen-implicitly --- 366,372 ---- o enable-8bit-nntp-posting o enable-cruise-mode (SPACE acts like tab when at end of msg) o enable-cruise-mode-delete (look at it once, then it disappears) + o enable-dsn o enable-dot-files (file browser normally hides dot files) o enable-dot-folders (folder lister normally hides them) o enable-flag-screen-implicitly *************** *** 5449,5454 **** Note, this feature relies on your system's mail transport agent or configured \"smtp-server\" having the negotiation mechanism introduced in \"Extended SMTP\" (ESMTP) and the specific extension called \"8BITMIME\". ESMTP allows for graceful migration to upgraded mail transfer agents, but it is possible that this feature might cause problems for some servers. --- 5451,5472 ---- Note, this feature relies on your system's mail transport agent or configured \"smtp-server\" having the negotiation mechanism introduced in \"Extended SMTP\" (ESMTP) and the specific extension called \"8BITMIME\". + + ESMTP allows for graceful migration to upgraded mail transfer agents, but + it is possible that this feature might cause problems for some servers. + + + ====== h_config_enable_dsn ===== + FEATURE: enable-dsn + + This feature affects Pine's behavior when sending mail. + + DSN (Delivery Service Notification) sends a message back to + the sender when the message is delivered to the recipient. + + Note, this feature relies on your system's mail transport agent or + configured \"smtp-server\" having the negotiation mechanism introduced in + \"Extended SMTP\" (ESMTP) and the specific extension called \"DSN\". ESMTP allows for graceful migration to upgraded mail transfer agents, but it is possible that this feature might cause problems for some servers. ---- Cut Here -------- Cut Here -------- Cut Here -------- Cut Here ---- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Chris Taylor: C.Taylor@coventry.ac.uk Coventry University, Computing Services. Tel: (01203) 838641 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:57:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA27358 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:57:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA19804 for pine-info-out; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:53:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA19800 for ; Tue, 7 Jan 1997 22:53:07 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA21090; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:48:34 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:48:34 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: Eric Burgh cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine 3.95 sent-mail doesn't work. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The option in the configuration that you want is "default FCC". Bruce On Thu, 2 Jan 1997, Eric Burgh wrote: > > I've noticed that now that we've switched to 3.95 pine doesn't save my > sent messages in the sent-mail folder. I checked all the options in the > config and didn't seem to find the appropriate feature. Am I missing > something simple? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Eric B. Burgh e-mail: musashi@pha.jhu.edu > Department of Physics and Astronomy ebb@jhu.edu > The Johns Hopkins University http://www.pha.jhu.edu/~musashi > Baltimore, Maryland Office: x4123 > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > "From one thing know ten thousand things."--Miyamoto Musashi, Gorin No Sho > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:01:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA28851 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA21559 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:57:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cliff.uottawa.ca (cliff.uottawa.ca [137.122.6.64]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA21553 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:57:28 -0800 Received: from aix2.uottawa.ca by cliff.uottawa.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03a) id AA19872; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:52:06 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:57:08 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Morneau To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine-"you have new mail" message problem (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII SEE BELOW -- Paul Morneau E-mail: s589613@uottawa.ca 77 Bullock Ave. Ottawa, Ont. K1S 1G9 Home: (613) 236-2334 Pager: (613) 780-2687 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:19:50 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Morneau To: UW Robot Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 Most Frequently Asked Questions Everytime I enter Pine the message "you have new mail" appears even though no new messages exist. What is the problem? How do I correct it? Thanks for your help. -- Paul Morneau E-mail: s589613@uottawa.ca 77 Bullock Ave. Ottawa, Ont. K1S 1G9 Home: (613) 236-2334 Pager: (613) 780-2687 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:04:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA28862 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:04:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA21580 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:59:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cliff.uottawa.ca (cliff.uottawa.ca [137.122.6.64]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA21576 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 00:59:05 -0800 Received: from aix2.uottawa.ca by cliff.uottawa.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03a) id AA08232; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:53:43 -0500 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:58:45 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Morneau To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine-Password problems (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII SEE BELOW -- Paul Morneau E-mail: s589613@uottawa.ca 77 Bullock Ave. Ottawa, Ont. K1S 1G9 Home: (613) 236-2334 Pager: (613) 780-2687 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:24:26 -0500 (EST) From: Paul Morneau To: UW Robot Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 Most Frequently Asked Questions Once I have gained access to my unix box I type:pine. The system automatically logs me on then asks for my password which was assigned to me by the University of Ottawa. How do I change the password? Going into setup, then password does not work. It seems that I can not change the generic assigned password needed upon entering Pine. -- Paul Morneau E-mail: s589613@uottawa.ca 77 Bullock Ave. Ottawa, Ont. K1S 1G9 Home: (613) 236-2334 Pager: (613) 780-2687 ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:54:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA29205 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA20153 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:42:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA20143; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:42:10 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:39:44 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:34:29 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Pine Developers cc: Pine Info Subject: Bug (ID Z330B): line endings treatment in ESMTP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-559023410-570397931-852716069=:29928" Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---559023410-570397931-852716069=:29928 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: Hi, I'm running pine3.95 on Solaris. I've run into a problem with an MTA which is ESMTP 8BITMIME compliant. This MTA also supports downgrading when passing a message to the next hop. If the next hop does not support 8BITMIME it will attempt to downgrade. If pine is set to enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation the attachments it produces encoded in base64 will have their end of lines like so: di5jYy5udGh1LmVkdS50dz4NClJlY2VpdmVkOiBmcm9tIGNkc2h1YjEwMC5j^M ZGMuY29tIGJ5IGNhbHZpbi50d250cGUuY2RjLmNvbSB3aXRoIEVTTVRQOyBU^M dWUsIDcgSmFuIDE5OTcgMTA6MjU6NDAgKzA4MDANClJlY2VpdmVkOiBmcm9t^M In other words the lines end in 015 012. If pine is set *not* to enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation the attachments it produces encoded in base64 will have their end of lines like so: di5jYy5udGh1LmVkdS50dz4NClJlY2VpdmVkOiBmcm9tIGNkc2h1YjEwMC5j ZGMuY29tIGJ5IGNhbHZpbi50d250cGUuY2RjLmNvbSB3aXRoIEVTTVRQOyBU dWUsIDcgSmFuIDE5OTcgMTA6MjU6NDAgKzA4MDANClJlY2VpdmVkOiBmcm9t In other words they simply end with 012. When the MTA needs to perform downgrading it fails if the line ends with 015 012 stating that the attachment is invalid base64. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C ---559023410-570397931-852716069=:29928 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data Pine built Thu Sep 12 11:14:58 GMT 1996 on host: hobbes ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = egreshko, full = Ed Greshko home = /usr1/egreshko home_dir= /usr1/egreshko hostname= hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com localdom= twntpe.cdc.com userdom= NULL maildom= hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com cur_cntxt= {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/[] cur_fldr= outbox actual mbox= {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/outbox msgmap: tot=69, cur=69, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Date actual inbox= {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}INBOX inbox map: tot=108, cur=107, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Date term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/pts/5, size=24x80, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Ed Greshko user-id : egreshko smtp-server : calvin.twntpe.cdc.com nntp-server : news.cdc.com inbox-path : {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}INBOX incoming-folders : "pine" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/pine : "mhforum" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/mhforum : "mime" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/info-mime folder-collections : calvin-mail {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/[] news-collections : *{news.cdc.com/nntp}[] default-fcc : outbox default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : signature-at-bottom : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : save-will-advance : include-text-in-reply : auto-zoom-after-select : quell-dead-letter-on-cancel : show-cursor : allow-talk : pass-control-characters-as-is : enable-mouse-in-xterm : enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon : enable-dot-files : enable-flag-screen-implicitly : show-selected-in-boldface : enable-goto-in-file-browser : news-post-without-validation : enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : Date addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : /usr1/egreshko/bin/mkpgp composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : no printer : newone [] /usr1/egreshko/bin/pine.print personal-print-comma : newone [] /usr1/egreshko/bin/pine.print personal-print-categ : 3 standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 97.1 last-version-used : 3.95 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 alt-addresses : Ed Greshko : Edward M Greshko : Ed Greshko : Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com : egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com : Ed Greshko viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/usr1/egreshko/.pinerc) ======= smtp-server : calvin.twntpe.cdc.com nntp-server : news.cdc.com inbox-path : {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}INBOX incoming-folders : "pine" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/pine : "mhforum" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/mhforum : "mime" {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/info-mime folder-collections : calvin-mail {calvin.twntpe.cdc.com}mail/[] default-fcc : outbox feature-list : delete-skips-deleted : enable-aggregate-command-set : enable-bounce-cmd : enable-flag-cmd : enable-full-header-cmd : enable-incoming-folders : enable-jump-shortcut : enable-mail-check-cue : enable-suspend : enable-tab-completion : enable-unix-pipe-cmd : expanded-view-of-addressbooks : expanded-view-of-folders : signature-at-bottom : enable-alternate-editor-cmd : save-will-advance : include-text-in-reply : auto-zoom-after-select : quell-dead-letter-on-cancel : show-cursor : allow-talk : pass-control-characters-as-is : enable-mouse-in-xterm : enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon : enable-dot-files : enable-flag-screen-implicitly : show-selected-in-boldface : enable-goto-in-file-browser : news-post-without-validation sort-key : Date character-set : ISO-8859-1 editor : ~/bin/mkpgp printer : newone [] /usr1/egreshko/bin/pine.print personal-print-comma : newone [] /usr1/egreshko/bin/pine.print personal-print-categ : 3 last-time-prune-ques : 97.1 last-version-used : 3.95 alt-addresses : Ed Greshko : Edward M Greshko : Ed Greshko : Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com : egreshko@cosmo.twntpe.cdc.com : Ed Greshko ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail default-saved-msg-fo : saved-messages postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last composer-wrap-column : 74 reply-indent-string : > empty-header-message : Undisclosed recipients use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu suggest-fullname : Pine Developers suggest-address : pine-suggestions@cac.washington.edu local-fullname : Local Support local-address : postmaster kblock-passwd-count : 1 viewer-overlap : 2 scroll-margin : 0 status-message-delay : 0 mail-check-interval : 150 elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== allow-talk no-assume-slow-link no-auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread auto-zoom-after-select no-auto-unzoom-after-apply no-compose-cut-from-cursor no-compose-maps-delete-key-to-ctrl-d no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-send-offers-first-filter no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-default-in-bug-report no-disable-busy-alarm no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-keymenu no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-disable-signature-edit-cmd no-enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation no-enable-8bit-nntp-posting enable-aggregate-command-set enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-background-sending enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-cruise-mode no-enable-cruise-mode-delete enable-dot-files no-enable-dot-folders enable-flag-cmd enable-flag-screen-implicitly enable-full-header-cmd enable-goto-in-file-browser enable-incoming-folders enable-jump-shortcut enable-mail-check-cue enable-mouse-in-xterm enable-newmail-in-xterm-icon enable-suspend enable-tab-completion enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-enable-verbose-smtp-posting expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-distribution-lists expanded-view-of-folders no-expunge-without-confirm no-fcc-on-bounce no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order pass-control-characters-as-is no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-print-offers-custom-cmd-prompt no-print-includes-from-line no-print-index-enabled no-print-formfeed-between-messages quell-dead-letter-on-cancel no-quell-lock-failure-warnings no-quell-status-message-beeping no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-reply-always-uses-reply-to no-save-aggregates-copy-sequence no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm show-cursor show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-single-column-folder-list no-tab-visits-next-new-message-only no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys no-use-sender-not-x-sender no-use-subshell-for-suspend ========== Latest keystrokes ========== ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) v (0x0076) (0x0020) (0x0020) n (0x006e) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) i (0x0069) c (0x0063) y (0x0079) RETURN (0x000d) ; (0x003b) a (0x0061) TAB (0x0009) v (0x0076) (0x0020) i (0x0069) TAB (0x0009) v (0x0076) (0x0020) (0x0020) i (0x0069) d (0x0064) x (0x0078) y (0x0079) v (0x0076) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) (0x0020) i (0x0069) d (0x0064) x (0x0078) y (0x0079) - (0x002d) 9 (0x0039) 2 (0x0032) RETURN (0x000d) v (0x0076) (0x0020) r (0x0072) y (0x0079) RETURN (0x000d) r (0x0072) y (0x0079) RETURN (0x000d) i (0x0069) TAB (0x0009) v (0x0076) (0x0020) i (0x0069) d (0x0064) x (0x0078) y (0x0079) m (0x006d) s (0x0073) c (0x0063) w (0x0077) RETURN (0x000d) x (0x0078) e (0x0065) y (0x0079) i (0x0069) g (0x0067) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) v (0x0076) h (0x0068) h (0x0068) i (0x0069) s (0x0073) p (0x0070) o (0x006f) TAB (0x0009) s (0x0073) ^H (0x0008) ^H (0x0008) ^H (0x0008) ^C (0x0003) m (0x006d) s (0x0073) c (0x0063) w (0x0077) p (0x0070) o (0x006f) s (0x0073) t (0x0074) RETURN (0x000d) e (0x0065) i (0x0069) s (0x0073) p (0x0070) o (0x006f) s (0x0073) t (0x0074) p (0x0070) o (0x006f) n (0x006e) e (0x0065) d (0x0064) - (0x002d) m (0x006d) s (0x0073) g (0x0067) s (0x0073) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) u (0x0075) m (0x006d) c (0x0063) y (0x0079) y (0x0079) g (0x0067) ^N (0x000e) RETURN (0x000d) s (0x0073) p (0x0070) o (0x006f) s (0x0073) t (0x0074) p (0x0070) o (0x006f) n (0x006e) e (0x0065) d (0x0064) - (0x002d) n (0x006e) m (0x006d) ^H (0x0008) s (0x0073) ^H (0x0008) ^H (0x0008) m (0x006d) s (0x0073) g (0x0067) s (0x0073) RETURN (0x000d) y (0x0079) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) A (0x0041) u (0x0075) c (0x0063) y (0x0079) m (0x006d) i (0x0069) c (0x0063) y (0x0079) y (0x0079) m (0x006d) s (0x0073) c (0x0063) w (0x0077) 8 (0x0038) RETURN (0x000d) x (0x0078) e (0x0065) y (0x0079) m (0x006d) i (0x0069) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) b (0x0062) e (0x0065) ^H (0x0008) s (0x0073) p (0x0070) s (0x0073) m (0x006d) a (0x0061) s (0x0073) t (0x0074) . (0x002e) ^H (0x0008) @ (0x0040) c (0x0063) o (0x006f) s (0x0073) m (0x006d) o (0x006f) . (0x002e) t (0x0074) w (0x0077) n (0x006e) t (0x0074) p (0x0070) e (0x0065) . (0x002e) c (0x0063) d (0x0064) c (0x0063) . (0x002e) c (0x0063) o (0x006f) m (0x006d) RETURN (0x000d) RETURN (0x000d) c (0x0063) m (0x006d) o (0x006f) b (0x0062) ESC (0x001b) [ (0x005b) B (0x0042) RETURN (0x000d) ---559023410-570397931-852716069=:29928-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:56:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA29228 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:56:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA20301 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:52:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA20294 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 01:52:28 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:51:18 +0800 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:46:03 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Paul Morneau cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine-Password problems (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Paul Morneau wrote: > Once I have gained access to my unix box I type:pine. > > The system automatically logs me on then asks for my password which was > assigned to me by the University of Ottawa. How do I change the > password? Going into setup, then password does not work. It seems that > I can not change the generic assigned password needed upon entering Pine. Is the senario: 1. Log-in to unix box with a "user-name" and "password". 2. Type "pine". 3. Pine starts and displays a username, you hit return or supply a UN 4. Pine starts and displays a password prompt, you enter a password. 5. You are into pine. And you want to change the password on #4 but can't? Thanks for a better understanding of your situation. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:10:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA29291 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:10:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA22569 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:07:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA22565 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:07:10 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:04:52 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA09638; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:06:03 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:06:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jago cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Separating Messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The question is really not so much "How does Pine separate messages in a folder?" but "Which mailbox format are you using?" Whereas Elm, as far as I recall, supports only one/a few mailbox formats Pine supports many. How the messages are stored and separated can be very different in each format, so it _is_ important which one you are using. That said, most places use the so-called "Berkeley" format. With this each message is of the format: From blah blah blah Header1: value Header2: value Header3: value <--- empty line (important!) ...text of message... Particular points to note: * Each message is introduced by a line starting "From " (note the trailing space; this differentiates the line from the "From:" header line). * The text after the "From " is often in a variety of formats, and its content shouldn't really be relied upon (eg, Pine rewrites it when resaving the mailbox). Use the proper "HeaderN: value" lines instead. * The empty line after the last header signifies the end of the headers, and the start of the message body text. This prevents software getting confused over initial lines of a message which happen to look like header lines. * The mail software (delivery softare, Pine, etc) almost invariably "quotes" any lines within a message body which start "From " to become ">From". This prevents spurious start-of-message's. (But note that Pine has, as far as I recall, an option to turn this quoting off somewhere, although it is rarely used I guess!) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 5 Jan 1997, Jago wrote: > I've developed a software that purges new mail messages in /var/mail, and > it worked fine until some users switched from ELM to PINE. How does PINE > separate the messages? I thought a good start was to look for "From" > (does it also use linefeeds?), but this can be a problem if the body of > messages contain "From" as well. Somehow PINE is smart enough to handle > the messages. Any ideas? > > -- > {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} > { Name: Steven C. King Institution: Florida State University } > { Addr: sck4518@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Major field: MM Performance } > { kings@cmr.fsu.edu Instruments: Clarinet, piano (hobby) } > { URL: http://otto.cmr.fsu.edu/~kings/ - MIDI, Humor, KI2, Pictures, etc. } > { "The way to do is to be." } > {--------------------------------------------------------------------------} > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:22:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA29367 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:22:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA20708 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:17:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA20701 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:17:25 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:15:51 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA13886; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:17:07 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:17:07 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Louella B. Salvador" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How do I fix disk quota exceeded message? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Louella B. Salvador wrote: > Please let me know how to fix a "disk quota exceeded message". Thank you > for your help. Either: 1) Delete some of your files, or 2) Ask the people who look after your computer systems for some more disk space allowance (disk quota). "Disk quota" is a means whereby Mean And Nasty Systems Administrators (such as myself;-) can limit the amount of storage space someone can make use of on the computer. Every time you save a file to the computer's disk it uses up some storage space; every time you delete one of your files it releases the space that file used. When you have used up all your storage allowance (your "disk quota") you can't create or enlarge any of your files. So you either have to release some space (by deleting some of your files), or ask the people who look after the computer system you are using for a larger disk quota. As you can see this is something that has to be done by yourself or people at your site who look after your computer; we -- random people around the world -- can't do anything to resolve the problem for you. This is why it is usually best when confronted with such an error message to ask someone (a Help Desk?) at your site for assistance in the first instance. They can usually advise you and help you correct any problem faster and more effectively than we can. However if you think you have found a bug in Pine, or have a suggestion about improving it, then the people in this forum will be pleased to hear from you. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:28:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA29447 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:28:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA20780 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:23:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA20770 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:23:17 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:21:38 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA15767; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:22:44 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:22:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: drewsky , "...drew" cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: 3.95 problem any help? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, ...drew wrote: > > > Ya... suurr... I vill tell ya.... > > > > the error message reads: > > > > no space (spool) [innwatch:32] 7559 lt 8000 > > > > Ya... suuurr... dat's vat it says. > > Sounds like the news server has a problem with disk space. > Not much pine can do to help on that one.... > > Ed I can confirm Ed's diagnosis: the real problem is that the News Server you are trying to use has run out of storage space for receiving new articles (either posted to it by people such as yourself, or received from its neighbouring news servers). When this happens the news server "throttles" itself so as to prevent any further articles arriving. Depending on how it has been configured it may (usually does) allow people to continue _reading_ News, but they can't post. If someone does try and post an article the news server returns an error message which the news reading software, in this case Pine, reports to the user. I suggest you contact the person who administers your Usenet News server and check that they are aware of the problem; only they will be able to fix things up. As an aside, this is another good example of a case where someone's best course of action would really have been to consult a someone/a Help Desk at their site, rather than asking random people around the world. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:39:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA29719 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:39:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA22876 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:34:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA22872 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 02:34:11 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:31:20 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA19824; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:32:34 GMT Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:32:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Chillin' Dannyman" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: News server authentication - how? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Pine will prompt you to enter authentication information when the news server tells it that it can't do something without authenticating; there is nothing to configure manually. Your problem is that you're in a bit of a halfway house: the most common scenarios are: 1. Unrestricted access to users for reading or posting. 2. Unrestricted access for reading, but must authenticate before a posting is accepted. 3. Must authenticate before any reading or posting is allowed. Pine 3.95 handles all the above scenarios without any manual configuration. However it sounds like your server allows limited news reading (and posting?) without authentication, and access to additional newsgroups after authentication? I'm not too sure whether Pine will interwork with this setup (Pine Team?). The reason for my suspicion is that when it sends a "GROUP" command to the server to try and open one of the additional groups your news server is responding something like "No such group" (because you aren't authenticated). This is the same message that would be sent out if the group really didn't exist. Pine is watching for the "Authentication required for command" message to trigger it into prompting you to supply it with the necessary information. Because it doesn't see this it doesn't ask you, and without it your news server won't grant access. So my horrible suspicion is that you may not be able to get Pine -- at least not version 3.95 -- to give you access to the additional newsgroups on your server. Your only hope would be to see if your News Administrator might consider moving to one of the above three setups. Caveat: I may be wrong about this. Anyone on the Pine Team care to comment? Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, Chillin' Dannyman wrote: > I have access to some newsgroups on my local server only via > authentication, otherwise they'll turn up a "not-found" I've read that > pine 3.95 allows authentication at the news server, but I can not figure > out how to specify that it should authenticate, what must I do to get pine > to login to the news server? It connects just fine for reading and > posting, but if I want to see these certain groups, well, I must > authenticate ... > > TIA, and if any replies could be Cc:ed to email I'd greatly > appreciate, because then I can't miss the reply. :) > > =====///==================================================================== > ====///===== This message brought to you by dannyman@dannyland.org ========= > \\\///========== HOME PAGE! http://www.uiuc.edu/ph/www/djhoward ============ > =\XX/Allen=171============================================================== > [Nothing to Expunge! No messages marked "Deleted".] > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 05:24:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA30920 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 05:24:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA25095 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 05:18:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acaix1.ucis.dal.ca (acaix1.UCIS.Dal.Ca [129.173.1.50]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA25091 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 05:18:51 -0800 Received: from is2.dal.ca (IS2.Dal.Ca [129.173.1.66]) by acaix1.ucis.dal.ca (8.7.3/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA44645 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 09:18:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (tdowdall@localhost) by is2.dal.ca (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA64930 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 09:18:49 -0400 Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 09:18:49 -0400 (AST) From: Tanya Raye Dowdall To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Fw: virus alert (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL GREETINGS! please delete > it WITHOUT reading it. Below is a little explanation of the message, > ...and what it would do to your PC if you were to read the message. > > This is a warning for all internet users - there is a dangerous > virus propogating across the internet through an e-mail message entitled > "PENPAL GREETINGS!". DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY MESSAGE ENTITLED "PENPAL > GREETINGS!" This message appears to be a friendly letter asking you if you > are interested in a penpal, but by the time you read this letter, it is too > late. The "trojan horse" virus will have already infected the boot sector > of your hard drive, destroying all of the data present. It is a > self-replicating virus, and once the message is read, it will AUTOMATICALLY > forward itself to anyone who's e-mail address is > present in YOUR mailbox! This virus will DESTROY your hard drive, and > holds the potential to DESTROY the hard drive of anyone whose mail is in > your inbox, and who's mail is in their inbox, and so on. If this virus > remains unchecked, it has the potential to do a great deal of DAMAGE to > computer networks worldwide!!!! > Please, delete the message entitled "PENPAL GREETINGS!" as soon > as you see it! And pass this message along to all of your friends > and relatives, and the other readers of the newsgroups and mailing > lists which you are on, so that they are not hurt by this > dangerous virus!!!! > ======================================================== > Note, > > There is also a E-Mail virus called GOOD TIMES which is similar to above > and should be deleted > > _________________ > Don McCormick > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:48:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA01862 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:48:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA26437 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:38:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gaston.tenet.edu (Gayle-Gaston.tenet.edu [198.213.2.8]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA26433 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:38:51 -0800 Received: (from jeppler@localhost) by gaston.tenet.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) id KAA00703; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:38:45 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 10:38:44 -0600 (CST) From: Jan Lee Eppler To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: black screen Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Some mysterious combination of keys causes white screen w/black type to switch to black screen w/white type. Problem seems associated w/users who have Windows 95 and use HyperTerminal to access Pine. My server is Tenet, and their helpdesk people haven't been able to solve the mystery. Does anyone else have this problem, and/or know how to reverse it? thanks. I am a novice, so any replies should be in KISS (keep it simple for stupids). From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:58:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA01976 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:58:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA26857 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:51:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA26853 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 08:51:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vi1A2-00038YC; Wed, 8 Jan 97 08:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: Best editors Date: 8 Jan 1997 11:37:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: <32D26BAF.1E28@intermicro.com> <5ave4v$shm@fridge-nf0.shore.net> hazmat@shore.net (Ken W) writes: >: * autowrap and ability to set wrap margin; also something >: equivalent to Pico's ^j which allows you to "justify" a >: paragraph that has become a mess due to massive editing. > >: * versions that run on Win 3.1, Win 95, and Unix (text, not >: necessarily X-Windows) > >: * ability to see line numbers (e.g. vi's `:set nu') > >: * ability to see tabs and end of lines (e.g. vi's `:set list') > >: * vi keystroke emulation > >Uhhh.... How about vi? :) The thing above that I believe that vi can't do is >the justification that you are talking about with pico, but I believe that >you can use some sort of script to do that for you, probably with either >sh or perl. Speaking of which, anyone know of such a script? A couple people sent me mail suggesting vim, which has a built-in paragraph-justify thing. I'll try it but I'm wondering how GUI the Windows 3.x and 95 versions are - can you cut and paste and use the scroll bar? Also, what I really want is something that has all the above features that normal people (non-vi people) can use. I help a lot of people with Net stuff and I need to find a good text editor to recommend to them that *I CAN ALSO USE* (that's why the vi emulation would be nice). Right now I set people up with pico but then when I try to do something for them, I usually create a mess because I start typing things like `ESCAPE jjj' to move around. Thanks, Nancy PS - Where can I get the Win 3.1 and Win 95 versions of vim? -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:06:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA05289 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA02668 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:01:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA02664 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:01:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vi3Fi-00038XC; Wed, 8 Jan 97 11:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: VAL RAUCH Subject: Please ignore this message, only a test. Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:22:23 -0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Test1. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 12:11:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA03583 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 12:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA01492 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:41:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA01488 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 11:41:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vi3sD-00038aC; Wed, 8 Jan 97 11:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: "Out of free storage" Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 18:12:12 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: The problem is on machine (a), the client. The problem is that a malloc() call failed. Were you trying to send something particularly large in the message? On 7 Jan 1997, Nancy McGough wrote: > I just crashed out of Unix pine while trying to send a message > and got this error message: > > Problem detected: "Out of free storage". > Pine Exiting. > Floating exception > > What does this mean and which machine is the problem on. > I was: > > * logged on to machine a > * responding to a message that was on machine b (accessed > via IMAP) > * using IMAP to save a copy of the message I was trying to > to send on machine c > * using an smtp server on machine d > > So, was this a problem on machine a, b, c, or d and what kind > of problem is it? -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:35:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA10279 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:35:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA08158 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:28:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA08154 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:28:25 -0800 Received: from ulnar.BioStr.Washington.EDU (ulnar.biostr.washington.edu [128.95.44.18]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA26213 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:28:24 -0800 Received: by ulnar.BioStr.Washington.EDU (NX5.67e/NX3.0S(UW-BS rev 081293)) id AA00953; Wed, 8 Jan 97 14:28:22 -0800 Message-Id: <9701082228.AA00953@ulnar.BioStr.Washington.EDU> Content-Type: text/plain Mime-Version: 1.0 (NeXT Mail 3.3 v118.2) Received: by NeXT.Mailer (1.118.2) From: William Barker Date: Wed, 8 Jan 97 14:28:19 -0800 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printing from Pine Reply-To: wrb@BioStr.Washington.EDU In order to print out a copy of a message I am sending someone from Pine I have been in the habit of sending myself a copy & then printing it out. Is there some way I can print out a message before I send it off? TIA, bb -- Bill Barker Biological Structure, Box 357420 University of Washington Seattle WA 98195-7420 (206) 543-7315 "In Wine there is Wisdom, In Beer there is Strength; In Water is Bacteria." --Old German Saying. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:40:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA10416 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA06104 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:36:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from tigger.stcloud.msus.edu (tigger.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU [199.17.25.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA06100 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:36:07 -0800 Received: from TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU by TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (PMDF V5.1-5 #16214) id <01IDZ6ROET5600BRDT@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 16:40:28 CST Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 16:40:27 -0600 (CST) From: lagesl01@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU Subject: question???? To: Pine Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine, At one point I put a signature on my screan. How do I get in and add to or change it? -memory lost *some days are made this way From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:16:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11146 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:16:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA09427 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:09:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA09421 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:09:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA28985; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:04:19 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:04:18 -0600 (CST) From: Bruce Toews To: lagesl01@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU cc: Pine Subject: Re: question???? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII No problem. Just edit a file called .signature in your root directory. Bruce On Wed, 8 Jan 1997 lagesl01@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU wrote: > Pine, > At one point I put a signature on my screan. How do I get in and > add to or change it? > -memory lost > > > *some days are made this way > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:41:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11600 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:41:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA10137 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:36:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA10133 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:36:02 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:35:10 +0800 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:35:10 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: lagesl01@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU cc: Pine Subject: Re: question???? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Jan 1997 lagesl01@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU wrote: > Pine, > At one point I put a signature on my screan. How do I get in and > add to or change it? > -memory lost You're using pine 3.95. Got to the main menu. Type s(etup), s(ignature). Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:46:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11839 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA07838 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:37:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA07831 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:37:22 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:36:32 +0800 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:36:32 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Bruce Toews cc: lagesl01@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU, Pine Subject: Re: question???? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, Bruce Toews wrote: > No problem. Just edit a file called .signature in your root directory. Got to be careful.....maybe they read the help in setup/config and changed the name of their signature file. :-) :-) -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:50:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11916 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA07933 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:42:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA07929 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:42:22 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:41:32 +0800 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:41:32 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko To: wrb@BioStr.Washington.EDU cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printing from Pine In-Reply-To: <9701082228.AA00953@ulnar.BioStr.Washington.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, William Barker wrote: > In order to print out a copy of a message I am sending > someone from Pine I have been in the habit of sending myself > a copy & then printing it out. Is there some way I can print > out a message before I send it off? This "ugly" but should work. 1. When you are finished composing, use ctrl-O to Postpone. 2. Change to the postpone folder. 3. V(iew) the message you want to print. 4. Y(int) the message. You can they type c(ompose) to resume and then (of course) ctrl-x to send..... -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:08:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA13552 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:08:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA12114 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:02:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA12110 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:02:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vi8og-00038aC; Wed, 8 Jan 97 16:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Allen R Sparks Subject: Re: automatic response upon receiving mail? Date: 02 Jan 1997 16:12:12 -0900 Message-ID: References: Dwight Wilkins writes: > > > A user recently asked how to have pine automatically > reply to pine, the example was if the user is on gone for an extended > time, the sender would receive a message that the user will be back in a > month, etc. How exactly would I do this? > > > PGP key: > nyuknyuknyuknyukwoowoowoowoonarffiorddohhyukwe'rezanytothemaxetcetcetc There are programs out there that work on unix systems. Digital Unix comes with a program called "vacation" (I don't know how "generic" it is) that will automatically reply to a message. Pine itself does not have that function, and can't since, to my knowledge, pine is not programmed to run as a daemon. === Al From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:35:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA13923 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:34:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA10691 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:31:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA10687 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 17:31:22 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id TAA30601 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:26:03 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:26:02 -0600 () From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Vacation Program Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I know this doesn't have anything to do with Pine, but since the question of a vacation program seems quite frequent on this list (I've seen it four times in two weeks) can someone tell me where a Vacation program could be FTPed from? Thanks. Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:01:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA15089 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 19:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA12078 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:57:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA12074 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:57:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viAfl-00038bC; Wed, 8 Jan 97 18:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: f.chartier@atlantel.fr (Francis CHARTIER) Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 13:02:48 GMT Message-ID: <32cd034d.5919597@news.atlantel.fr> References: <5a5j3u$e1@crl.crl.com> <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> <32CC8DBF.6F5@cs.ucla.edu> <5ai4g9$g52@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> Le 3 Jan 1997 05:12:41 GMT, Steve Howie a écrit : > >mwu@crl.com (Matt Wu) writes: >> >>It'd be treat if PINE or elm could read from POP servers, but I don't >>think they can. > >As an aside, there is a Unix POP client called "mutt" - do a Web or Archie >search for it. > You can use fetchmail or getmail, then use Pine to read you local mail. *---------------------------------------------* Francis Chartier f.chartier@atlantel.fr Quid Novi ? quidnovi@atlantel.fr * PAO * Pre-Presse * Photogravure * *---------------------------------------------* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:28:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA01349 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA17945 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:22:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA17941 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 22:22:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viDov-00038bC; Wed, 8 Jan 97 22:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wft@ralvm29 (Bill Trautman) Subject: Re: pineos2 not starting Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 14:13:28 GMT Message-ID: <19970103.091328.772@ralvm29> References: In article , on Fri, 3 Jan 1997 10:46:18 +0100, Roland Wenzel writes: >I don't get my pine working under OS/2. After setting up the variables I >tried to start pine. It told me: > > [stuff removed] > >roland > >-------------------------------------------------- >This message has not been typed. >Introducing VoiceType and Warp 4. > Roland, You need to set up the environment variable HOME or PINEHOME to point to where you want your mail folders created (I don't think they have to point at the PINE directory. Bill From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:32:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA17655 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:32:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA16719 for pine-info-out; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:28:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA16715 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 1997 23:28:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viEpP-00038bC; Wed, 8 Jan 97 23:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Subject: Re: How do I fix disk quota exceeded message? Date: 7 Jan 1997 23:31:03 GMT Message-ID: <5aumbn$s95@cdshub.cdc.com> References: In article lbs6838@is4.nyu.edu ("Louella B. Salvador") wrote: > > Please let me know how to fix a "disk quota exceeded message". Thank you > for your help. You do one of two things: 1. Delete files in the area noted as being over quota. 2. Ask your sys admin to increase your quota. Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:59:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA18274 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:59:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA17861 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:53:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ermis.math.upatras.gr (ermis-g.math.upatras.gr [150.140.104.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA17857 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:53:04 -0800 Message-Id: <199701090853.AAA17857@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: by ermis.math.upatras.gr (16.6/16.2) id AA07533; Thu, 9 Jan 97 11:57:30 +0200 From: Skiniotis Takis Subject: unsubscribe To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Thu, 9 Jan 97 11:57:29 EET Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25] unsubscribe pine-info takis From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:13:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA18385 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:13:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA20011 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:03:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA20007 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:03:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viGL9-00038eC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 00:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marco De la Cruz Subject: Folders with unanswered messages - which ones? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 3 Jan 1997 06:56:34 GMT Hi, Is there any way to make Pine automatically highlight (or somehow mark) folders with unanswered messages inside? In this way I could tell at a glance (from the folder list) where are the messages I have not yet answered, instead of having to read the contents of each folder... I'm using v. 3.95. Thanks for any help! -- _________________________________ marco@chinook.physics.utoronto.ca Gunnm: Broken Angel http://128.100.80.13/marco/alita.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:17:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA18423 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:17:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA18090 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:13:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA18086 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:13:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viGXj-00038cC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 01:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bunka@i112pc09.vu-wien.ac.at (Sebastian Bunka) Subject: Re: Pine on Linux. Date: 9 Jan 1997 08:20:51 GMT Message-ID: <5b29p3$5b4@cantine.wu-wien.ac.at> References: <32D3A8A9.44D26077@inf.com> In article <32D3A8A9.44D26077@inf.com>, "Rahul R.S" writes: >Hello, > >I recently have started using pine on my linux machine. >My problem is that whenever I send a message, pine hangs at >the '[Sending mail | 0% |]' prompt for a very long time. >(almost one minute !) > >I never had this problem when I was using pine on HP-UX. > >Is there any setup problem here. > In the setup/config go to the feature list and enable background sending. From the pine Help: FEATURE: enable-background-sending This feature affects the behavior of Pine's mail sending. If set, this feature enables a subcommand in the composer's "Send?" confirmation prompt. The subcommand allows you to tell Pine to handle the actual posting in the background. While this feature usually allows posting to appear to happen very fast, it has no affect on the actual delivery time it takes a message to arrive at its destination. NOTE 1: This feature isn't supported on all systems. All DOS and Windows, as well as several Unix ports, do not recognize this feature. NOTE 2: Error handling is significantly different when this feature is enabled. Any message posting failure results in the message being appended to your "Interrupted" mail folder. When you type the "Compose" command, Pine will notice this folder and offer to extract any messages contained. Upon continuing a failed message, Pine will display the nature of the failure in the status message line. WARNING: Under extreme conditions, it is possible for message data to get lost. Do not enable this feature if you typically run close to any sort of disk-space limits or quotas. Don't know if it works for linux ... Sebastian -- ;-) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sebastian Bunka ph. (+43-1) 250 77 4208 Institute of FAX (+43-1) 250 77 4290 Medical Chemistry email: Sebastian.Bunka@vu-wien.ac.at University of Veterinary Medicine - Vienna - Austria ------------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:36:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA18552 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:36:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA20378 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:33:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA20368 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:33:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viGmW-00038bC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 01:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: greenleaf Subject: Help Required Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:01:28 +0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Suppose we have two logins: login "A" and login "B". At login "A" we have created ".forward" file which will forward messages from "A" to "B". When any message is mailed to "A" it forwards to "B" (well this works perfectly) in this process the message from "A" is deleted. Message appears only at "B". We want a way through which the message also stays at "A" & also forwards to "B". Is there any configuration in Pine which we will help us to do so. Any help will be highly appreciated. Thank's in advance. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:49:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA18662 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:49:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA18460 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:43:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA18456 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 01:43:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viGyY-00038bC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 01:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Wood Subject: NE Nice Editor Date: Fri, 03 Jan 1997 09:57:11 -0500 Message-ID: <32CD1E47.36B3@intermicro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone do any programming modifications to the ne editor. I need 2 major modifications: 1) ne needs to be able to read a printer configuration file that I've already made. ne would then use the printer aliases in this file to give the user the ability to choose which system printer to print to. 2) Mail Merge capability. ne needs to accept a file as the 2nd argument. The first argument is the file to edit. The second argument is a filename containing a list of name, addresses, etc. that would be merged into the document. If anyone would like some contract work please call: Eric Wood International Micro, Inc. Phone:864-676-2170 Fax:864-676-2175 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:42:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA19382 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA21049 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:38:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA21045 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 02:38:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viHo3-00038cC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 02:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: using lockf with pine? Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:39:34 -0800 Message-ID: References: <199701080249.UAA18449@opus.csd.uwm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <199701080249.UAA18449@opus.csd.uwm.edu> On 7 Jan 1997, Dave Rasmussen wrote: > My site wants to use lockf as the primary locking scheme across mail platforms. > What do I have to do to configure pine to do this? I saw in c-client/flock.c > what appears to be code to do this, but I am currently confused what to > set where in the configuration, which turns out to be on Digital Unix > (have been using OSF as the config) There is no configuration to set here. lockf() is not a system call. The system calls in question are flock() and fcntl(). flock() is the appropriate call on OSF/1. flock() is a no-op over NFS. This is OK, since the only locks maintained by flock() are locks for mechanisms that can't work over NFS anyway. No, you do not want to do multiple simultaneous shared read/write access using NFS. You don't want to do fcntl() locking if you have flock(). fcntl() tries to lock over NFS, but attemping to use this capability will cause a cluster-wide hang. Trust us, not the vendor; it doesn't work. If your vendor says it does work, get him to commit to it in writing, and commit to giving you lots of free hardware when it fails. ;-) The primary lock for UNIX mbox format files is the .lock file, which does work over NFS. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:09:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA19606 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:09:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA19291 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:03:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA19287 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:03:51 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:03:01 +0800 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 19:03:00 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: greenleaf cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help Required In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, greenleaf wrote: > Suppose we have two logins: login "A" and login "B". > At login "A" we have created ".forward" file which will forward messages > from "A" to "B". > When any message is mailed to "A" it forwards to "B" (well this works > perfectly) in this process the message from "A" is deleted. Message > appears only at "B". We want a way through which the message also stays > at "A" & also forwards to "B". Is there any configuration in Pine which > we will help us to do so. Any help will be highly appreciated. Thank's in > advance. Not a pine config....but a .forward config: Use: \usernameA usernameB@B.foo.bar OK? -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:22:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA19695 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:22:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA19510 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:18:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA19506 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 03:18:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viIQW-00038cC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 03:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: joachim@pu.nz.fh-koeln.de (Joachim Schaaf) Subject: Bug: Wildcard in filename Date: 9 Jan 1997 10:00:39 +0100 Message-ID: <5b2c3n$dl-b0266877@smail.rrz.uni-koeln.de> Hi, I wanted to include some files in a mail (named file, file-1, file-2, ..., file-9) and typed "file*" at the prompt after pressing Ctrl-R. The result was that pine crashed with "IO Trap, aborted". -- Joachim Schaaf @ home running Linux (0221-9624593 login gast/gast). e-mail: joachim@pu.nz.fh-koeln.de schaaf@borneo.gmd.de (finger for public PGP-Key). www : http://www.dvz.fh-koeln.de/~bn500/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:42:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA22030 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:42:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA24917 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:37:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orion.sfsu.edu (orion.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.236]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA24913 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:37:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (bap@localhost) by orion.sfsu.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id HAA19436 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:37:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:37:46 -0800 (PST) From: Beta Alpha Psi X-Sender: bap@orion Reply-To: Beta Alpha Psi To: Undisclosed recipients: ; Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII two things I want to know about pine 1. how do I make forwarded messages be deleted on forward 2. how do I turn off prompt at begining of month asking if I want to delete sent-mail-lastmonth to save disk space. I never want to delete sent-mail! Thanks Please reply to bap@sfsu.edu because I don't subscribe to newsgroup From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:08:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA22729 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:08:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA23313 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:01:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA23309 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:01:45 -0800 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.7.6/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id KAA61452; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:59:15 -0500 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:59:14 -0500 (EST) From: Gregor J Jones To: Edward M Greshko cc: wrb@BioStr.Washington.EDU, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printing from Pine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Perhaps it might be a little less "ugly" to make sure that mail sent is being saved to folders, and then print from those. I realize this means that it can only be printed after sending, rather than before. On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote: | On Wed, 8 Jan 1997, William Barker wrote: | | > In order to print out a copy of a message I am sending | > someone from Pine I have been in the habit of sending myself | > a copy & then printing it out. Is there some way I can print | > out a message before I send it off? | | This "ugly" but should work. | | 1. When you are finished composing, use ctrl-O to Postpone. | 2. Change to the postpone folder. | 3. V(iew) the message you want to print. | 4. Y(int) the message. | | You can they type c(ompose) to resume and then (of course) | ctrl-x to send..... | | | -- | Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce | Control Data Asia/Pacific Region | Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 | FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C | | | Yours Gregor __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) Department of Physiology 617-262-8205 (Home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 Boston MA 02118 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:46:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA24091 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:46:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA26270 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:39:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA26263 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:39:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viNR1-00038cC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 08:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cfmc@henge1.henge.com (Bill Cripe) Subject: How to prevent pine from dialing out? Date: 7 Jan 1997 18:57:46 GMT Message-ID: <5au6ba$3ns@henge2.henge.com> I'm running on an SCO 3.0 system, which attempts to make ppp connections on demand. If my machine is not connected to the Internet and someone wants to read their mail or compose new mail they have to wait for pine to connect before they can begin. If the connection fails the person can't use pine at all. It seems that there must be a way to suppress this attempt to connect to the Internet, but I haven't found it. Setting my mail server to localhost looked like it ought to work, but didn't. What is it that pine is trying to do that makes it connect to the Internet at startup rather than waiting for new outgoing mail to be launched? My system pulls e-mail to it via POP3, so there is no need for pine to be looking for new mail. Thanks for the help, Bill Cripe -- Computers for Marketing Corporation Voice: (303) 860-1811 1888 Sherman Street, #425 Fax: (303) 860-0501 Denver, CO 80203 e-mail: denver@cfmc.com U.S.A http://www.cfmc.com/denver From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:02:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA24586 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA24588 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:55:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA24584 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 08:55:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA07118 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:49:52 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:49:52 -0600 () From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: LCC Field Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does the LCC field have to contain an address book entry? Or can I just somehow type in a list of intended recipiants? Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:08:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA24734 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:08:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA26932 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:04:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from krypton.mankato.msus.edu (Krypton.Mankato.MSUS.EDU [134.29.1.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA26928 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:04:23 -0800 Received: from localhost (vcr@localhost) by krypton.mankato.msus.edu (8.6.4/8.6.4) with SMTP id LAA17168 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:06:29 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: krypton.mankato.msus.edu: vcr owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:06:28 -0600 (CST) From: Robin Mata To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Creating a mailgroup Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I create a "subdirectory" to keep selected e-mails in there? Thanks Robin R. Mata MBA Program Mankato State University *============================================================* "Keep striving for the heights, ...soon you're gonna get wings" *============================================================* e- mail: vcr@krypton.mankato.msus.edu home page: http://krypton.mankato.msus.edu/~vcr/vcr.html *============================================================* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:19:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA25051 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:19:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA24820 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:04:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA24816 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 09:04:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viNsm-00038lC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 09:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: PINE vs EUDORA ! Date: 8 Jan 1997 00:22:59 GMT Message-ID: References: <32D17A05.440E@cs.ucla.edu> On Mon, 06 Jan 1997 14:17:41 -0800, Fabrizio Talucci wrote: There is a lot of misinformation in your post, which I wish to correct. >Please note, MAC runs a simply, tiny VT100 emulation program, not a Mail >program (such as EUDORA) in TCP/IP which requires a Powerful hardware >(>386). a) Eudora does not need powerful hardware, nor does it *have* to be run over a tcp/ip stack. Eudora has, and still does, support a simple serial connection to a terminal server from where it can issue "telnet host 110" and "telnet host 25" commands to interact with a pop3 server and a smtp server. >THIS MEANS THAT YOU REQUIRE A SIMPLY VERY OLD MAC OR EVEN 8088 (XT!!) TO >CHECK AND WRITE YOUR MAIL. b) It has been possible to use TCP/IP as a networking protocol on low end processors - such as the intel 8088 and intel 8086. I would not be surprised to find a tcp/ip stack for m68k Macs that have 68000 processors, such as the Mac Plus or Mac SE (68020?). >Not only, you do not require even TCP/IP support, that normally it is >not freeware. c) Again, *free* TCP/IP stacks have been available for DOS (and perhaps MacOS) for a long time. >AND you need just a inexpensive 1200 or 2400 baud modem! Not a 14400 or >more. Modem speed has little to do with tcp/ip. I was using a 2400 bps modem for a SLIP link in 1988. I believe I used POPmail/PC (from the Univ. of Minnesota) as pop3 client at that time. I appreciate that you like a Unix curses interface to your mail and HTML. I also happen to like the same. I did however wish to point out that even fairly low-end platforms can use tcp/ip as a networking protocol. Later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. McArdle Laboratory for Cancer Research University of Wisconsin-Madison From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:14:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA26235 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:14:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA26487 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:07:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wuacn.wustl.edu (wuacn.wustl.edu [128.252.163.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA26483 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:07:47 -0800 Received: (from rj@localhost) by wuacn.wustl.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id MAA16636; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:07:45 -0600 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:07:44 -0600 (CST) From: CABLE DESCRAMBLERS CABLE DESCRAMBLERS To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Multiple news group listings with Pine 3.91 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I wish to post to a large list of newsgroups on Pine 3.91. However, when I do so, the list of newsgroups continues into the subject and attachment areas instead of remaining in the "to" section. HOW DO I DO IT? Thanks RJ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:51:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA27056 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:51:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA27413 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:42:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from blackhole.tla.com (adsl-73.cais.com [207.176.4.73]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA27409 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 10:42:28 -0800 Received: from localhost (lblaine@localhost) by blackhole.tla.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA21182 for ; Sun, 13 Apr 1997 04:00:40 -0400 Date: Sun, 13 Apr 1997 04:00:39 -0400 (EDT) From: leslie blaine To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: IMAPD Configuration (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello- We have been having difficulty debugging a problem with our pine server running imapd. The server keeps rejecting requests or attempts by the PCpine client program to retrieve mail. Pop clients appear to have no problems. Where can I look to find a detailed description of the imapd setup and configuration for Pine running under Linux. Thanks- Les Blaine lblaine@tla.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:54:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA30242 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:54:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA03201 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:49:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA03197 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:49:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viRMe-00038gC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 12:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Zero byte "pinercXXXXXX" files? Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:33:55 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5ajl2j$q1l@arachnid.Gsu.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5ajl2j$q1l@arachnid.Gsu.EDU> On 3 Jan 1997, Andrew A. Kincaid wrote: > Does anyone know why Pine 3.95 (in Unix) would create these "pinerc021178" > files out in user's home directories? -- Oh, and they are 0 bytes big. > > Does anyone know what these are, and how to stop them from being created? > These are created when Pine makes an unsuccessful attempt to re-write the .pinerc file. Pine is able to create a temp file, but then cannot write to it. This is typically caused by a disk full or over-quota condition... --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8689.70 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:54:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA30250 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:54:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA00896 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:49:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA00892 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:49:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viRMN-00038fC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 12:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pine access 2 imap servers? Date: Mon, 6 Jan 1997 14:30:45 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 3 Jan 1997, Kiran Anantha wrote: > I recently installed Netscape Mail Server on host2. host1 is the current > imap server machine. If I set my inbox to {host1}, I can access mail on > host1 and if I set it to {host2}, I can read mail from host2. > > What I would like to do is set inbox to {host1} and define a > folder-collection for mail on host2 (perhaps as "host2mail {host2}[]" ?!). Are your folders in your home directory on host2? If not, you need to specify the path (either absolute or relative to your home directory) between "{host2}" and "[]". For details, see http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes/config-notes.html#collections > But, though I can login I cannot access my mail on host2.(I get an error > saying empty folders). Is there > something wrong with my approach, syntax? What is the exact error message? > P.S: I can do a "g {host2}" and get to my mail on host2, so why can't > {host2}[] be a valid folder. "g {host2}" is equivalent to "g {host2}INBOX" which has special rules for determining its location. All other folders are relative to your home directory. --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8689.69 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:06:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA30592 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:06:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA03400 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:59:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA03396 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:59:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viRWN-00038eC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 12:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Wood Subject: Re: Best editors Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 13:05:43 -0500 Message-ID: <32D53377.3798@intermicro.com> References: <32D26BAF.1E28@intermicro.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marco De la Cruz wrote: > How 'bout Emacs? I haven't used emacs but I would like someone to compare what I compared with emacs. -Eric Wood From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:21:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA01297 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:21:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA06998 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:14:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA06994 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:13:57 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:13:07 +0800 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:13:06 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Bruce Toews cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: LCC Field In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Bruce Toews wrote: > Does the LCC field have to contain an address book entry? Or can I just > somehow type in a list of intended recipiants? Why not allow yourself to go "wild" and *try* it? If you did try it....and had trouble of some kind....then tell us about it. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:22:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA01327 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:22:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA07074 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:16:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA07070 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:16:47 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:15:56 +0800 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:15:56 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: CABLE DESCRAMBLERS CABLE DESCRAMBLERS cc: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple news group listings with Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, CABLE DESCRAMBLERS CABLE DESCRAMBLERS wrote: > I wish to post to a large list of newsgroups on Pine 3.91. However, when > I do so, the list of newsgroups continues into the subject and attachment > areas instead of remaining in the "to" section. > > HOW DO I DO IT? Hummm.....don't hit return after typing the name of a newsgroup? Just keep typing, following the name of each newsgroup with a comma. "large" list of newsgroups? You're not planning a spamming, are you? :-) :-) Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:24:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA01463 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:24:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA07117 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:18:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA07109 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 15:18:14 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:17:24 +0800 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 07:17:24 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: leslie blaine cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: IMAPD Configuration (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 13 Apr 1997, leslie blaine wrote: > We have been having difficulty debugging a problem with > our pine server running imapd. The server keeps rejecting > requests or attempts by the PCpine client program to > retrieve mail. Pop clients appear to have no problems. > Where can I look to find a detailed description of the > imapd setup and configuration for Pine running under Linux. Before you go off the deep end.... What do you get when you type: telnet hostname 143 Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:35:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA05283 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:35:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA09135 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:30:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA09131 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 18:30:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viWie-00038fC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 18:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: x@x.x Subject: Re: Get Quick Results! Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:57:05 -0800 Message-ID: References: <19970108012628.AAG27235@Panton.delta.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <19970108012628.AAG27235@Panton.delta.net> On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, it was written: : ***** The BEST Way for YOU to Market Successfully ***** : : ********5 Million E-mail Addresses Available ******** : : Nothing works better than mass e-mail to get quick results. : Nothing! : Yeah, nothing like pissing off 5 million people all at once. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 20:26:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA06343 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 20:26:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA13282 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 20:20:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (mailhost.worldnet.att.net [204.127.129.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA13278 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 20:20:02 -0800 Received: from gateway ([207.146.227.245]) by mtigwc02.worldnet.att.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0613 ) with ESMTP id AAC28489 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:50:13 +0000 From: "CLIFFORD ROSANBALM" To: Date: Tue, 17 Dec 1996 20:35:23 -0600 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <19970110015008.AAC28489@gateway> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 21:48:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA07222 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 21:48:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA11878 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 21:44:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gateway.nic.ustc.edu.cn (gateway.nic.ustc.edu.cn [202.38.95.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA11565 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 21:18:43 -0800 Received: from hpe25.nic.ustc.edu.cn by gateway.nic.ustc.edu.cn; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:25:22 +0800 Received: from issp.hfcas.ac.cn by hpe25.nic.ustc.edu.cn with ESMTP (8.6.10/16.2) id NAA03193; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:24:54 +0800 Received: (from dxoy@localhost) by issp.hfcas.ac.cn (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA11880; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:20:59 +0800 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:20:59 +0800 (CST) From: ouyang dongxun To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: inquiry Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I want to know some instructions used for "vi editing" in Unix system, like to remove the file, etc. Can you tell me details? Regards, Ouyang From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 21:58:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA07295 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 21:58:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA14590 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 21:55:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gateway.nic.ustc.edu.cn (gateway.nic.ustc.edu.cn [202.38.95.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA14520 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 21:47:35 -0800 Received: from hpe25.nic.ustc.edu.cn by gateway.nic.ustc.edu.cn; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:25:22 +0800 Received: from issp.hfcas.ac.cn by hpe25.nic.ustc.edu.cn with ESMTP (8.6.10/16.2) id NAA03193; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:24:54 +0800 Received: (from dxoy@localhost) by issp.hfcas.ac.cn (8.6.12/8.6.9) id NAA11880; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:20:59 +0800 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:20:59 +0800 (CST) From: ouyang dongxun To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: inquiry Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I want to know some instructions used for "vi editing" in Unix system, like to remove the file, etc. Can you tell me details? Regards, Ouyang From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:04:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA07356 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:04:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA14669 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:00:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA14665 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:00:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viZxS-00038hC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 21:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: IMAP and Netscape 4 Beta. Date: 8 Jan 1997 13:24:38 GMT Message-ID: <5b076m$938$5@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <32D304F8.45EA@lgx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <32D304F8.45EA@lgx.com>, William C Bonner writes: > I'm running the IMAP server that is in the Pine 3.5 distribution. I've Are you sure it is Pine 3.5? The current version is 3.95. > Is the IMAP server in the Pine distribution a full IMAP implementation? I simply got the IMAP separately from ftp.cac.washington.edu, why not? That will be full implementation... :-) Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == www.uc.edu/~yuanj = Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = using Knews (Irix5.3) == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:04:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA07046 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:04:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA12084 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:00:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA12080 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:00:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viZxS-00038iC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 21:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: How do I fix disk quota exceeded message? Date: 8 Jan 1997 08:51:03 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5aumbn$s95@cdshub.cdc.com> E.Greshko@cdc.com writes: > You do one of two things: > >1. Delete files in the area noted as being over quota. > >2. Ask your sys admin to increase your quota. Another possibility is: 3. Compress some of your files using, e.g., gzip. -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:58:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA07394 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA12872 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:54:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA12868 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:54:48 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:53:59 +0800 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:48:40 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: ouyang dongxun cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: inquiry In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, ouyang dongxun wrote: > Hi, I want to know some instructions used for "vi editing" in Unix > system, like to remove the file, etc. Can you tell me details? > Regards, Ouyang On a unix system, type "man vi" for details on the use of the "vi" editor. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:58:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA07919 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:58:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA15459 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:55:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA15455 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:55:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viaoq-00038gC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 22:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Deepak Thadani Subject: No Valid Author Specified Date: Wed, 08 Jan 1997 19:12:11 -0500 Message-ID: <32D437DB.77DA@pcsltd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, We have an SCO UNIX system version 3.2r4.2 and we are trying to get PINE to run. The version of PINE we are using is: v3.91 This machine is not networked and simply has dumb terminals attached to it. The error we keep getting after composing and trying to send a message is: No Valid Author Specified. The email does not go through although a copy is saved in the user's saved mail folder. This happens whether it's the superuser (root) or any other normal system user. Does anyone know what this problem might be? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Please post/email replies ASAP. -Deepak From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:04:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA08034 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:04:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA12958 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:59:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from idiom.com (idiom.com [140.174.82.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA12954 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:59:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (molson@localhost) by idiom.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id WAA22907 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:59:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:59:51 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Olson Reply-To: Mark Olson To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: 502 You Have No Permission to Speak Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Good people, Using Pine to subscribe to newsgroups always yields the following: 502 You have no permission to speak. Goodbye This condition seemed to just start out of the blue. One day it worked, the next day it didn't. The SA here says he doesn't know why, but thought a version upgrade of Pine might help, which it did not. The current version is 3.95 nntp-server = news.tlg.org Does anyone have a clue what is amiss here? thanks, Mark Olson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:39:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA08283 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:39:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA13424 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:35:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA13420 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:35:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vibUT-00038gC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 23:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mwang@fuwutai.wh.att.com (M.Wang) Subject: pine gets hung periodically Date: 9 Jan 1997 19:00:09 GMT Message-ID: <5b3f7p$cam@nntpb.cb.lucent.com> We installed pine using imap4, and {sever}/var/spool/mail on SunOS4.1.x. It works ok except it periodically gets hung, for example, when first started and when sending an email message. I determined it is not a network related problem. "trace -p " shows the following repeated system calls. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. Michael Wang Lucent Technologies Inc, 2A-108, 67 Whippany Rd, Whippany, NJ 07981-0903 Email: xiaofei@lucent.com select (64, 0xefffca40, 0, 0, 0xefffcab0) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call) - SIGALRM (14) gettimeofday (0xefffbe68, 0) = 0 sigblock (0x2000) = 0x2000 sigvec (14, 0xefffbe64, 0xefffbe58) = 0 sigvec (14, 0xefffbdec, 0) = 0 sigsetmask (0x2000) = 0x2000 setitimer (0, 0xefffbe60, 0xefffbe50) = 0 sigcleanup () = 0 select (64, 0xefffca40, 0, 0, 0xefffcab0) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call) - SIGALRM (14) gettimeofday (0xefffbe68, 0) = 0 sigblock (0x2000) = 0x2000 sigvec (14, 0xefffbe64, 0xefffbe58) = 0 sigvec (14, 0xefffbdec, 0) = 0 sigsetmask (0x2000) = 0x2000 setitimer (0, 0xefffbe60, 0xefffbe50) = 0 sigcleanup () = 0 select (64, 0xefffca40, 0, 0, 0xefffcab0) = -1 EINTR (Interrupted system call) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:47:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA08373 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:47:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA13539 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:44:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA13535 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:44:11 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:43:06 +0800 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:37:47 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Mark Olson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: 502 You Have No Permission to Speak In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Mark Olson wrote: > Good people, > Using Pine to subscribe to newsgroups always yields the following: > > 502 You have no permission to speak. Goodbye > > This condition seemed to just start out of the blue. One day it worked, > the next day it didn't. The SA here says he doesn't know why, but > thought a version upgrade of Pine might help, which it did not. > The current version is 3.95 > nntp-server = news.tlg.org > > Does anyone have a clue what is amiss here? Sounds like the NNTP server you are try to talk to refuses to speak to you. This is generally a configuration on the server side. By any chance did you change the settings of your pinerc file to point to a different NNTP than you normally connect with? Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:53:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA08120 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:53:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA16112 for pine-info-out; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:46:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA16107 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:45:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vibes-00038gC; Thu, 9 Jan 97 23:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: vladimir@aludra.usc.edu (vladimir) Subject: Re: Manually sort address book Date: 9 Jan 1997 22:32:11 -0800 Message-ID: <5b4npb$rp5@aludra.usc.edu> References: <5b4cok$r6b@nuscc.nus.sg> mathelmr@math.nus.sg (Helmer Aslaksen) writes: >I've just switched from elm to pine. Under elm, I used to manually >sort my adr book by country etc. I found this convenient. Is there any >way to do that under pine? Addresbook is just a regular text file (if you haven't changed anything, it is called .addressbook) with simple structure. You can load it in any text editor (like pico or emacs) and edit it as you see fit, as long as the structure of entries is preserved. Hope this helps a bit. -Vladimir From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:55:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA09282 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:55:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA15061 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:51:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA15057 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:51:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vidbz-00038gC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 01:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: "Out of free storage" Date: 8 Jan 1997 09:13:59 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mark Crispin writes: >The problem is on machine (a), the client. > >The problem is that a malloc() call failed. > >Were you trying to send something particularly large in the message? No, it was a small message. I think there was a general problem on the system (machine a) because after I crashed out of pine, and posted my msg about it, I got an error message when I tried to just do a `w' to see who was on the system. Thanks, Nancy PS - Is it possible for future versions of pine to give error messages that tell which host the problem is on? If IMAP becomes popular (which I hope it does!), it will probably be common for people to have scenarios like I described with machines a, b, c, and d being used for all different aspects of a pine event. -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 02:00:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA09332 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 02:00:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA17641 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:53:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from opera.iinet.net.au (opera.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.7]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA17637 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:53:13 -0800 Received: from grunge.iinet.net.au (grunge.iinet.net.au [203.59.24.9]) by opera.iinet.net.au (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA30065 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:53:11 +0800 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by grunge.iinet.net.au (8.7.4/8.6.12) with UUCP id RAA10085 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:09:30 +0800 Received: by winthrop.wininv.iinet.net.au (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA17371; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:46:38 +0800 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:46:37 +0800 (WST) From: Nick Higgins Reply-To: Nick Higgins Subject: My Inbox is being corrupted To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII I am running Pine 3.91 on SCO 3.2. I have installed pine and am having one major problem: No messages are being expunged from any folder. I cleared it down manually, sent myself three messages and tried to expunge the first. I discovered 4 messages. The third message had become corrupted. A zero value From: To: had been inserted between the ^A^A^A^A^A's. This is driving me nuts. I cannot recompile as I don't have the relevant tcp/ip development kit. However, I have an identical(? - it is supposed to be) machine upon which Pine works fine. I have looked at the debug (-d99) files and there is a message: IMAP 17:20 1/9 mm_log babble: Find of mailbox outside context: /root/.pine-intr Does this ring any bell with anyone? What is, and where can I find the file mentioned above, or is it destroyed upon exit from Pine? Any ideas would be gratefully received. I am using MMDF/UUCP as the MTA. Help! Nick ******************************************************************************** Nick Higgins ;-) nick@wininv.iinet.net.au 'Phone (09) 474 2111 (work) fax (09) 367 4214 (09) 343 5406 (home) I am changing my name to Crysler I am going down to Washington, D.C. I will tell some power broker What they did for Iacocca Will be perfectly acceptable to me! I am changing my name to Chrysler, I am heading for that great receiving line. When they hand a million grand out, I'll be standing with my hand out, Yessir, I'll get mine! ******************************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 02:01:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA09328 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 02:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA17670 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:56:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA17666 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 01:56:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vidcc-00038gC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 01:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: PINE vs EUDORA! I love my girlfriend. Date: 8 Jan 1997 15:32:10 GMT Message-ID: References: <32D17A05.440E@cs.ucla.edu> <32D33CE2.6B95@cs.ucla.edu> On Tue, 07 Jan 1997 22:21:22 -0800, Fabrizio Talucci wrote: Dude: You compel me to answer to your crap as well. > Almost never used EUDORA in my life but, please, check QUALCOMM web site > http://www.elmail.co.uk/products/email/eudcompc.html. Row 6 and 7 of the > table. > Only Eudora Pro, that is the commercial version, is able to > "send and receive mail remotely, via modem, without a SLIP or PPP > connection" > Only Eudora Pro ,that is the commercial version, > "comes standard with TCP/IP protocol stack, PPP and SLIP software ..." The *OLD* Mac version of Eudora, when it was still a product from the University of Illinois (i.e Eudora 1.3 and earlier) supported direct use of the communication toolbox and worked directly over a modem. I've been using (and writing) communication and tcp/ip software for PCs for over a decade, and perhaps, just perhaps, I might know what I am talking about! > If you succeed to run TCP/IP stack AND Eudora AND Windows 3.1 or later > (Eudora needs it, right?) on a low end processor such as the intel 8088 > and intel 8086 (but also 286 :-{ ), please let me know immediately, then > write a guiness report and send it! Who says you need to use Eudora to access mail via tcp/ip under DOS or MacOS. Check NuPOP (ftp://ftp.acns.nwu.edu) or POPmail/Mac and POPmail/PC - both of which were also free (available from boombox.micro.umn.edu). > > I hope that Apple and Peter R. Tattam are not reading here. Grep through the helpfile/credits of the Trumpet Winsock for "Ashok Aiyar" sometime. Or write Pete and ask him what he thinks of me. Here are at least three free TCP/IP stacks for PCs. a) KA9Q - free for academics and hams b) NCSA's stack (used in both the NCSA and CUTCP packages) c) WATTCP Why are are you stuck on using Windows for internet access? As I said, I have been using TCP/IP since the late '80s - long before Winsock 1.1 was available as a spec. 2400 bps *was* fast then - and it did work adequately for POPmail/PC and NuPOP! Incidentally, NuPOP akin to Eudora did not need to run over TCP/IP. > Make sure that you understand the difference between freeware and > shareware. I do. Make sure you *know* what you are talking about - before you do. > Well, i fear that when they will work very well, they will not be more > freeware! Last time I looked NuPOP was still freeware. > For your information, mostly of the worldwide tcp/ip radioamateur > network runs on 1200 bps. Ahem .... do you know who wrote the first http server that ran over KA9Q, the predominant TCP/IP package used on the "worldwide tcp/ip radioamateur network" - to use your term? I also wrote parts of a gopher server for KA9Q, and re-wrote portions of the KA9Q smtp, pop2, pop3 and ftp servers. later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. McArdle Laboratory for Cancer Research University of Wisconsin-Madison From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 04:05:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA10633 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 04:05:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA16395 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 03:56:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA16391 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 03:56:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vifXo-00038iC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 03:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jungshik Shin Subject: features for I18N: TM style charset definition Date: 8 Jan 1997 15:11:11 -0500 Message-ID: <5b0v0v$9qc@net161-61.student.yale.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-kr Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit TM(Tools for MIME) quite widely used by Emacs mania have a couple of very useful features mising in Pine. Not being an Emacs fan, I don't wanna learn Emacs to make use of them available in TM. I'd rather see them implemented in a future version of Pine, my favorite and (really superb) mail client. Enclosed below is a little bit cryptic(I hope not) description of features I'd like Pine developers pay attention to and implement in next release. In case more elaboration is necessary, I'll back up later. ------------ Follow the model of TM(Tool for MIME) Allows users to define a list of 4-field record for each charset. 1. charset name for body e.g. ISO-8859-1, US-ASCII, EUC-KR, EUC-JP, ISO-8859-7 KOI-8, etc Due to a little bit peculiar char. of Korean mail, if charset for body is EUC-KR and available transmission level is 7bit(required transmission level for EUC-KR is 8bit), charset name to be put in the 'charset' field of 'Content-Type: ' header is not EUC-KR but ISO-2022-KR and body should be encoded into 7bit ISO-2022-KR. Thus, a special treatment harmless to all other cases is needed. 2. optional charset name for header if not defined, use the value of the 1st field. This option is useful for following two cases. One is when different charsets are used in body and header (Japanese body and French Subject) as mentioned in documents for sendmail 8.8.x by the author of sendmail. The other is RFC 1557 conformant Korean message which requires ISO-2022-KR body and B/Q encoded EUC-KR header. 3. required transmission level for the charset specified in 1. : 8bit, binary, 7bit e.g. US-ASCII has required transmission level 7bit while most others have 8bit(e.g. ISO-8859-X and EUC-{CN,JP,KR}, KOI-8) 4. whether or not to enforce encoding regardless of ESMTP neogotiation result if not defined, do not enforce, but follow the result of ESMTP negotiation. This is useful when using MTAs which are 8bit clean , but are not RFC 1651/1642-compliant. (e.g. sendmail 8.6.x) 5. encoding method to use : base64/qp, 7bit when required transmission level is higher than one available according to the result of ESMTP negotiation Default: 7bit for CJK(Chinese,Japanese,Korean Refer to RFC 1922,1468 and 1557, respectively) and base64/qp for all others. 6. encoding filter command to use when encoding scheme designated in 5 is not supported internally. Ignored if specified for base64/qp and other internally supported encoding method in 5. For instance, 7bit encoding for EUC-KR(Korean) charset needs "EUC-KR to ISO-2022-KR" filter which may or may not be supported internally by a future version of Pine. If not, users can specify their own filters. The same is true of ISO-2022-JP and ISO-2022-CN. Example of pinerc entries are mime_charset_definition={us-ascii/us-ascii/7bit///}, {iso-8859-1/iso-8859-1/8bit/no/qp/}, {iso-8859-5/iso-8859-5/8bit/no/base64/}, {hz/hz/7bit/no//},# HZ; 7bit Chinese charset used in alt.talk.chinese.hz {euc-kr/euc-kr/8bit/no/7bit/hmconv}, {iso-2022-jp/iso-2022-jp/7bit/no//} where 'hmconv' is a converter between EUC-KR and ISO-2022-KR. In composition session, allows users to interactively change charset for body thus making switching between one lang/charset and another much easier and faster than now. Of course,there should be a way to set default body charset as is currenly the case, so that most users who never send messages in more than one charset/lang. don't have to bother with charset setting. Also, let users override default charset for headers determined from the value of hdr charset field(item 2) in the above list corresponding to the body charset specified in composition session. Need for this arises because charset in header is not necessarily charset used for body(i.e. one can send a message with Korean body and German Subject) I wish this proposal would be carefully considered by Pine development team and would make itself into next release of Pine. Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 06:33:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA11611 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 06:33:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA20772 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 06:27:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from fw.bluestone.com (fw.bluestone.com [199.99.173.252]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA20768 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 06:27:24 -0800 Received: by fw.bluestone.com; id JAA10346; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:27:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from blustone.operations.bluestone.com(204.107.210.200) by fw.bluestone.com via smap (3.2) id xma010326; Fri, 10 Jan 97 09:26:58 -0500 Received: from psgserver.bluestone.com by blustone.operations.bluestone.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA09171; Fri, 10 Jan 97 09:25:55 EST Received: from localhost by psgserver.bluestone.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA07609; Fri, 10 Jan 97 09:25:52 EST Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:25:52 -0500 (EST) From: Kiran Anantha X-Sender: kiran@psgserver To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pine access 2 imap servers? (fwd) Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, David Miller helped me out with my question and I thought I would post this summary of his response. I wanted to access mail from two different accounts on two different IMAP servers (didn't want forwarding from one account to another) and wasn't sure how to set up my folders. David Miller explains: (incoming-folders is an option you enable by X'ing the enable-incoming-folders option) Hope it helps someone else, Thanks, Kiran. ############David's response:############################ Your INBOX and other folders are usually in completely different directories. Usually, your primary folder collection is in your home directory and only your INBOX is in var/spool/mail. Here is an example Pine configuration that might help: inbox-path={host1}INBOX # INBOX on host1 incoming-folders="Host2 INBOX" {host2}INBOX # INBOX on host2 folder-collections="Folders on Host1" {host1}mail/[], # Primary Folder # Collection "Folders on Host2" {host2}mail/[] # alternate folder # collection If your IMAP servers are properly configured, they should know where your INBOX is located, so you don't need to specify the path and filename. Does that help? --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8705.03 ####################### From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:16:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA13579 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA22453 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:12:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA22446 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:11:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vijXb-00038iC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 08:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@euler.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Pico and nn: cutting off long lines? Date: 7 Jan 1997 04:46:40 GMT Message-ID: References: <5artas$85k@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> dlm@cac.washington.edu (David L Miller): [pico cuts lines after byte 255] > Actually, the long line is split onto the next line on input. > It can handle any (?) length line on output. Is that a question? ;-) > If you reassemble the line in pico, it will get written out correctly. Sure, you just keep in mind which lines were cut up and fix them. Somehow I don't think this is ll become a favourite feature of PICO. > > Pine does not have a built-in editor - it uses pico. > Not quite correct. Both Pine and Pico use the same libpico library, but > they are separate programs. It would be possible to replace libpico and > compile Pine with a different editor, but I don't know anyone who has tried > this... Maybe the kitchen-sink people have done that? Naah - they already have turned their editor into a newsreader. > > > What do the RFCs say about the maximum length a Usenet news > > > or email header line is supposed to have? > The RFCs say you need to handle 1000 characters. Which RFC says that? Please give a reference! Sven [too lazy to search himself] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:41:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA14321 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA22997 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:37:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from MEDLIB.HSCBKLYN.EDU (medlib.hscbklyn.edu [138.5.100.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA22993 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:37:04 -0800 From: MUKHOPADHYAY@MEDLIB.HSCBKLYN.EDU Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:39:34 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-Id: <970110113934.1ec51@MEDLIB.HSCBKLYN.EDU> Subject: How to cc: to myself automatically Hi, We are using Pine 3.93 on an Unix box running Solaris 2.5. When the users use pine, some of them want to implement the feature to cc: to themselves automatically. I read the FAQ and don't seem to find it. Is it possible for the user to do it or the system administrator has to do it? Thanks, Sankar ******************* Sankar Mukhopadhyay Internet:mukhopadhyay@medlib.hscbklyn.edu SUNY-HSCB smukhopadhyay@netmail.hscbklyn.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:07:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA15033 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:07:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA20991 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:01:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orion.sfsu.edu (orion.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.236]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA20986 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:01:49 -0800 Received: from localhost (bap@localhost) by orion.sfsu.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id JAA02972 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:01:48 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 09:01:47 -0800 (PST) From: Beta Alpha Psi X-Sender: bap@orion To: Undisclosed recipients: ; Subject: How do I.... (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 12:52:10 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: bap@sfsu.edu Subject: How do I.... Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 07:37:46 -0800 (PST) From: Beta Alpha Psi Reply-To: Beta Alpha Psi To: Undisclosed recipients: ; > two things I want to know about pine > > 1. how do I make forwarded messages be deleted on forward Not sure how to do this one. > 2. how do I turn off prompt at begining of month asking if I want to > delete sent-mail-lastmonth to save disk space. I never want to delete > sent-mail! The following are the two lines in your .pinerc file located in your root directory. The first is a remark, the second line should be changed to what you see below - the 99.9 after the = sign. That will keep it from asking you at the beginning of each new month. # Set by Pine; controls beginning-of-month sent-mail pruning. last-time-prune-questioned=99.9 > Thanks > Please reply to bap@sfsu.edu because I don't subscribe to newsgroup From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:06:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA16460 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:06:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA25170 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:01:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA25166 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:01:52 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 10 Jan 1997 18:00:15 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id SAA12068; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 18:01:34 GMT Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 18:01:34 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: MUKHOPADHYAY@MEDLIB.HSCBKLYN.EDU cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to cc: to myself automatically In-Reply-To: <970110113934.1ec51@MEDLIB.HSCBKLYN.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" If you want to keep a copy of mail you send then the best way of doing so is _not_ by Cc'ing it to yourself. (This would pass it to the mail system, which would then send it back to your INBOX.) Instead you want to use "Fcc" (File Carbon Copy). This is a header field akin to "To:", "Cc:", etc but which takes the name of one of your folders instead of an e-mail address. You can get to (and set/change) the Fcc header value when composing a message by putting your cursor on a header line and then typing ^R (Rich Headers). Then put the cursor on the now-revealed Fcc line and ask Pine for help (by typing ^G). If you want to have this set to a folder by default (eg, "sent-mail") then go to Pine's Setup Configuration screen (S then C at its Main Menu) and look through the options for "default-fcc". Read its help text for more information. By setting default-fcc the Fcc header will be set to this value by default for every message you send (except when overridden by an Fcc value for an Address Book entry). If you _don't_ want to store a copy of the message you're sending (perhaps it has a large file attached to it) then use the ^R (Rich Headers) command to see all the headers of the message you're composing and then delete the Fcc header line's value. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 MUKHOPADHYAY@MEDLIB.HSCBKLYN.EDU wrote: > Hi, > > We are using Pine 3.93 on an Unix box running Solaris 2.5. > When the users use pine, some of them want to implement the feature > to cc: to themselves automatically. I read the FAQ and don't seem > to find it. Is it possible for the user to do it or the system > administrator has to do it? > > Thanks, > > Sankar From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:26:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA16896 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:26:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA25759 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:22:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA25754 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 10:22:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vilWf-00038iC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 10:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: powerRPC Subject: P o w e r R P C middleware Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:24:30 -0800 Message-ID: <32D5FCBE.71DD@netbula.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit P o w e r R P C -- The World's Most Powerful RPC Development Tool based on industry-standard ONC/RPC is available for download for more information, visit http://www.netbula.com/products/powerrpc/ Using the state of the art compiler and networking technology, PowerRPC can make any C function with any number of arguments of any complex C datastructures an RPC distributed on the network in ONE MINUTE. With powerRPC, you do not need to know any thing about RPC to write client/server applications. Given an API, powerRPC generates highly efficient and robust client/server code for you, greatly reducing development time and cost. Whether you are developing new applications or distributing existing ones, powerRPC is the perfect middleware solution. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:07:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA18485 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA25517 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:02:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA25510 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:02:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vin55-00038kC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 11:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Subject: Re: filtering FAQ Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:49:19 -0800 Message-ID: References: <32D2ABAD.4243@fccj.cc.fl.us> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32D2ABAD.4243@fccj.cc.fl.us> Hi Amatt, On 7 Jan 1997, amatt wrote: : Is using procmail usefull on filtering out just pine mail or can I use : it with Netscape Mail 2.0 that I will run on Solaris? I am looking for a : turnkey package that can do the job. thanks... : What is it with your NewsReader, why is there a HTML version of what you wrote attached to your post? BTW, it is only viewable with a download in PINE, very annoying. Is this one of those MicroSoft foulups, again? Take care, Michael (shotgun@best.com) Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:32:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA19824 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:32:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA26165 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:27:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA26161 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:27:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vinXr-00038nC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 12:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Howie Subject: Re: Fw: virus alert (fwd) Date: 8 Jan 1997 16:09:31 GMT Message-ID: <5b0grr$r12@ccshst05.cs.uoguelph.ca> References: Urban legend strikes again, version 2301.3 Rev B Tanya Raye Dowdall wrote: :---------- Forwarded message ---------- :> :> If anyone receives mail entitled: PENPAL GREETINGS! please delete :> it WITHOUT reading it. Below is a little explanation of the message, :> ...and what it would do to your PC if you were to read the message. :> Ignore this. You can't get in trouble by reading a mail message. But don't extract attachments with a .exe suffix save, then run them :> Note, :> :> There is also a E-Mail virus called GOOD TIMES which is similar to above ^^^^^^^^^^ :> and should be deleted :> Says it all right there ... :) Once again, kiddies - HOAX HOAX HOAX -- Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Listserv Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:32:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA19499 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:32:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA26159 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:27:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA26155 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:27:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vinXo-00038lC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 12:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Anonymous e-mail Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 18:00:37 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 6 Jan 1997, Master of Mayhem wrote: > From: Master of Mayhem > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > > I need to know how to send an anonymous e-mail message. You can find the FAQ at http://www.stack.nl/~galactus/remailers/ -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:34:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA16474 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:33:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA28708 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:27:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA28704 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:27:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vinXo-00038kC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 12:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bill Wohler Subject: Re: Pico and nn: cutting off long lines? Date: 8 Jan 1997 17:23:38 GMT Message-ID: <5b0l6q$i1c@samba.rahul.net> References: <5artas$85k@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> guckes@euler.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) writes: >schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz): >> What do the RFCs say about the maximum length a Usenet news >> or email header line is supposed to have? >Nothing (I think). => Any length should be allowed. While I don't think that RFC 1036 (Usenet) mentions anything about header line length, RFC 821 (SMTP) limits all lines of a mail message to 1000 characters, including the carriage return/line-feed. It would be prudent to adhere to the RFC 821 and RFC 822 standards as news messages are often gatewayed to mailing lists or forwarded as mail. In fact, RFC 1036 is explicit in this regard with RFC 822. -- Bill Wohler ph: +1-415-854-1857 fax: +1-415-854-3195 Say it with MIME. Maintainer of comp.mail.mh and news.software.nn FAQs. If you're passed on the right, you're in the wrong lane. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:34:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA19869 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:34:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA28717 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:27:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA28712 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:27:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vinXp-00038mC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 12:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Lunney Subject: exporting attachments Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 06:53:19 +1000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way to configure PINE such that when messages are exported, any associated attachments are automatically converted to a uue(?) format and stay with the export file? I get a lot of mail which currently I only have time every day to export to a digest, delete, and read off-line. Problem is that attachments are lost. Alternatively is there some way of configuring PINE to indicate which posts have attachments on the index listing? Many thanks Paul Lunney From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:45:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA20089 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:45:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA26457 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:40:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu (skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.103.241]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA26453 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:40:27 -0800 Received: by skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu; id AA31153; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:40:44 -0600 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:39:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:39:01 -0800 (PST) From: HOLBROOK@PMEL.NOAA.GOV Subject: RETIRED To: FedWebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu Message-Id: <01IE1QX14R0Y9ANRH3@ZETA.PMEL.NOAA.GOV> X-Vms-To: IN%"FedWebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Resent-Message-Id: <"wAjkGnsGBFC.0.pD7.6bgro"@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Resent-From: FedWebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/2 X-Loop: FedWebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu Precedence: list Resent-Sender: FedWebmasters-request@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu Hello, I have retired, and am no longer reachable at this email address. Please feel free to call me at (904) 336-4308 if you need to contact me. thank you, Jim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:46:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA20072 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA26404 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:38:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu (skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu [141.142.103.241]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA26400 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:38:43 -0800 Received: by skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu; id AA30022; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:37:56 -0600 Resent-Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:34:46 -0600 From: "Federal Webmasters" Message-Id: <9701101434.ZM2121@hobbes.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:34:46 -0600 X-Mailer: Z-Mail (3.2.0 26oct94 MediaMail) To: fedwebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu Subject: Greetings / Call for Papers Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Resent-Message-Id: <"R-p10j2JXj5.0.jH7.dWgro"@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu> Resent-From: FedWebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/1 X-Loop: FedWebmasters@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu Precedence: list Resent-Sender: FedWebmasters-request@skydive.ncsa.uiuc.edu Colleagues, I am representing the Federal World Wide Web Consortium. This is the first message to Federal Webmasters since we have re-established this list. You all attended one or both of our Federal Webmasters Workshops, and so we assume you'll be interested in the occasional announcement related to the topics of the Web, and Federal information services. If you'd rather not be on the list, please reply to me directly (lbrandt@nsf.gov) and we'll remove you from the list, or if you have someone who should be on the list, please send us their name and email address. If you have such a message you wish to be sent to federal webmasters, please send it to me, and if it is well-targeted for the list, we'll pass it on. Below is the announcement of a call for white papers in the area of Federal information services. Please read it through and pass on to colleagues. We'd very much like your ideas and comments. Thanks. Larry Brandt Program Manager for Advanced INformation Systems National Science Foundation email: lbrandt@nsf.gov ------------------------------ A workshop on R&D Opportunities in Federal Information Services is being sponsored by the Applications Council of the National Science and Technology Council's Committee on Computing, Information, and Communications and is being coordinated by the Information Sciences Institute of the University of Southern California. Funding for conducting the workshop has been provided by the National Science Foundation's Directorate for Computer and Information Science and Engineering, the President's Government Information Technology Services Board, and National Institutes of Health's National Center for Research Resources. The workshop is scheduled for May 13-15, 1997 to be held at a location to be determined in or near Washington, D.C. The workshop is intended to address a concern regarding high level disconnect of the information services (IS) field from the information technologies R&D world, a disconnect which is cultural, educational and technological. This gap between the industrial IS segment and the R&D performers in the information technologies (IT) sector, is of some concern to vendors, users and R&D performers and government supporters of R&D in information technologies. As a result of the first meeting (December 3-4) of the organizing committee for the workshop, a Call for White Papers has been developed. The Call and additional information on the workshop process can be found at URL http://www.isi.edu/nsf/ . This URL will be kept live and dynamic as more information is available, and will serve as the entry point for on-line submission of White Papers beginning in mid-January 1997. Papers are due no later than March 3, 1997. All sectors and interested parties are encouraged to submit Papers for review. Please forward this message to any interested individuals or organizations. Thank you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:58:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA20321 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:58:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA29326 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:51:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mufasa.wt.k12.pa.us (mufasa.wt.k12.pa.us [199.234.65.84]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA29321 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 12:51:39 -0800 Received: from localhost (cnm@localhost) by mufasa.wt.k12.pa.us (8.7.3/8.6.10-MT4.00) with SMTP id PAA01685 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:57:11 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:57:05 -0500 (EST) From: Charles N May To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pico editing: return doesn't give a new line Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm running NCSA Telnet 2.6 on a Mac. When editing pine messages or pico files, hitting return seems to be interpreted as a "justify" command. I've tried switching the session configuration to Berkeley BSD mode and tried changing my terminal emulation from VT200 to VT100. I also tried changing my "translation" from "none" to US ASCII to no avail. None of these strategies seem to solve the problem. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Otherwise I'm stuck with "vi" - not my favorite editor to teach novice users. -Charles May From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:33:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA21016 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:33:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA00491 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:27:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aip.org (pinet.aip.org [192.58.150.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA00487 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:27:34 -0800 Received: from localhost by jupiter (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA05846; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:48:45 -0500 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:48:45 -0500 (EST) From: Jim Amanatidis To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Sending files. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am currently using PINE 3.94 on a Sun Sparc 1000E using Solaris 2.5.1. I would like to send mail to a specific user, attaching a file as well. However, I want to do this non-interactively, that is, on a command line, I want to specify the address to email to, the file to attach and so on. In standard UNIX mail, I can do the following: mail -s "Subject goes here" joe@somewhere < SendThisFile. But what I want is to do something like: pine -s "Subject goes here" -a "Attach this file" < joe@somewhere Can this be done? Any help would be appreciated. Jim Amanatidis Email: jima@aip.org Tel: 516-576-2329 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:01:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA21558 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:01:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA28394 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:55:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Owl.nstn.ca (owl.nstn.ca [137.186.128.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA28390 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 13:55:48 -0800 Received: from hen.NSTN.Ca (Hen.NSTN.Ca [137.186.128.18]) by Owl.nstn.ca (8.8.2/8.6.6) with ESMTP id RAA24284 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:55:46 -0400 (AST) Received: from katydid.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by hen.NSTN.Ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with UUCP id RAA18997 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 17:55:44 -0400 (AST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:53:03 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Nolan X-Sender: cnolan@katydid Reply-To: Chris Nolan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problem between 3.91 & 3.95 Message-ID: Organization: Katydid Information SystemS Inc X-WWW-Site: http://fox.nstn.ca/~gkerr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Afternoon, I installed pine3.95 on an SCO 3.2v4.0 system today and ran into a problem. Pine is not finding the incoming mail folder. If I run pine3.91 everything is fine. I check back on my system an SCO 3.2v5.0 system where I recently did this and as far as I can tell, everything is the same. Any ideas? Thx, ___________________________ ____________________ Chris Nolan cnolan@katydid.ca Katydid Information SystemS Tel: +1 613 257-1061 Keeping it Simple for You Fax: +1 613 257-8211 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:27:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA22278 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:27:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA01953 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:23:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA01949 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:23:42 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA13203; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:23:39 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:23:37 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert Reply-To: Steve Hubert To: vladimir cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Manually sort address book In-Reply-To: <5b4npb$rp5@aludra.usc.edu> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 9 Jan 1997, vladimir wrote: > mathelmr@math.nus.sg (Helmer Aslaksen) writes: > > >I've just switched from elm to pine. Under elm, I used to manually > >sort my adr book by country etc. I found this convenient. Is there any > >way to do that under pine? > > Addresbook is just a regular text file (if you haven't changed anything, it is > called .addressbook) with simple structure. You can load it in any text editor > (like pico or emacs) and edit it as you see fit, as long as the structure of > entries is preserved. Hope this helps a bit. > > -Vladimir One thing to watch out for is that if you then edit the address book from within pine it will re-sort when you change something. So, you should go to the config screen and look for the variable "addrbook-sort-rule" and set it to "dont-sort" before you do this. There also isn't much support for dealing with this problem from within pine. If you add a new entry to an unsorted address book it isn't possible to control where it gets added. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:31:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA19429 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:31:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA29227 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:26:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA29220 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:26:05 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA13316; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:26:02 -0800 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 14:26:01 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert Reply-To: Steve Hubert To: MUKHOPADHYAY@MEDLIB.HSCBKLYN.EDU cc: Pine News Group Subject: Re: How to cc: to myself automatically In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > If you want to keep a copy of mail you send then the best way of doing so > is _not_ by Cc'ing it to yourself. (This would pass it to the mail > system, which would then send it back to your INBOX.) If you do want to do it with cc instead of fcc (I can think of some reasons to do it that way) then you can use the customized-hdrs variable in the Config screen to set up a cc or bcc header. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:23:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA23557 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:23:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA00583 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:18:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA00579 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:17:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viqCE-00038nC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 15:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krinsky@hcs.harvard.edu (David Krinsky) Subject: Re: save folder default names Date: 03 Jan 1997 21:01:45 -0500 Message-ID: <727mluyz92.fsf@hcs.harvard.edu> References: <5ak0g7$5o6@spool.cs.wisc.edu> In-reply-to: Rudy Moore's message of 3 Jan 1997 22:16:39 GMT Rudy Moore writes: > Is there any way to save a group of different e-mail addresses under a > single folder name? Case in point is that more then a couple of my friends > e-mail me from different accounts, I'd like to be able to save them all > to the correct folder without having to manually type in the name of > the folder. Under Unix, I generally just make symlinks in this case; it's not real elegant, but it's highly effective and quick. For those who don't already know this, an example: my friend Fred Smith has two email addresses, fred@home.net and smith@work.com. I have a folder called "smith" with email from the latter, and I start getting things from fred@home.net. ~ % cd mail ~/mail % ln -s smith fred Now, fred is a symlink to "smith", and if I just go ahead and save to either, all mail will wind up in "smith". Pine never knows the difference. Dave. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:23:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA23552 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:23:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA03270 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:17:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA03266 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 15:17:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viqAd-00038lC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 15:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: langford.mmi.som.hill.ohsu@ohsu.edu Subject: Re: PINE vs EUDORA ! Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 22:15:07 GMT Message-ID: References: <32D17A05.440E@cs.ucla.edu> >>Please note, MAC runs a simply, tiny VT100 emulation program, not a Mail >>program (such as EUDORA) in TCP/IP which requires a Powerful hardware >>(>386). We've got Eudora running graphically on a Mac SE with system 7.1 and 4M of RAM. Chris Langford From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:52:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA25464 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:52:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA05415 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:48:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA05408 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:47:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0virbs-00038kC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 16:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jmd@va.wagner.com (Jeff Douglass) Subject: pine3.95 arrow keys for MacX? Date: 8 Jan 1997 17:44:19 GMT Message-ID: <852745409.769997@gw.va.wagner.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Anyone know how to make pine/pico recognize the arrow keys with a PowerMac running MacX. I have fired off pine 3.95 in a xterm but the arrow keys do not function. Regards, Jeff jmd@va.wagner.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:35:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA27495 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA08433 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:31:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA08429 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:31:29 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA09482; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:04:13 +0530 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:04:12 +0530 (IST) From: Sarawgi Vipul X-Sender: vps@giasbma To: Mike Brudenell cc: MUKHOPADHYAY@MEDLIB.HSCBKLYN.EDU, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: reaching inbox In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, often, after reading a message i want to go back to inbox. however i do it in a round about way via main menu-folder index- inbox. is there any direct way? bye, ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:41:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA27798 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:41:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA05413 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:33:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA05402 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:33:20 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id JAA09653; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:06:08 +0530 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:06:08 +0530 (IST) From: Sarawgi Vipul X-Sender: vps@giasbma To: Mike Brudenell cc: MUKHOPADHYAY@MEDLIB.HSCBKLYN.EDU, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reaching inbox In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, i got the answer myself. "I" does the job. bye, ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Sarawgi Vipul wrote: > hi, > > often, after reading a message i want to go back to inbox. however i do it > in a round about way via main menu-folder index- inbox. > > is there any direct way? > > bye, > > ----------------------------- > > Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay > cheers > ----------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:41:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA27821 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:41:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA08525 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:38:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wuacn.wustl.edu (wuacn.wustl.edu [128.252.163.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA08521 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:38:13 -0800 Received: (from rj@localhost) by wuacn.wustl.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id VAA05486; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 21:38:09 -0600 Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 21:38:08 -0600 (CST) From: Guess Who? To: Edward M Greshko cc: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple news group listings with Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a long list and wish to copy it from my word perfect. Each board is separated by a comma and I am using the "cut" and "paste" which has the lines automatically wrap. I am trying to sell something and that is the reason for the multiple boards. The problem is that because of the size of the list, it fills up the Newsgroup: section and then carries on into the summary and the keyword sections. Any suggestions? Thanks. RJ ****************************************************************************** On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote: > On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, CABLE DESCRAMBLERS CABLE DESCRAMBLERS wrote: > > > I wish to post to a large list of newsgroups on Pine 3.91. However, when > > I do so, the list of newsgroups continues into the subject and attachment > > areas instead of remaining in the "to" section. > > > > HOW DO I DO IT? > > Hummm.....don't hit return after typing the name of a newsgroup? > Just keep typing, following the name of each newsgroup with a comma. > > "large" list of newsgroups? You're not planning a spamming, are > you? :-) :-) > > Ed > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 20:19:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA28102 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 20:19:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA05906 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 20:14:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from orion.sfsu.edu (orion.sfsu.edu [130.212.10.236]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA05902 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 20:14:30 -0800 Received: from localhost (t123@localhost) by orion.sfsu.edu (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id UAA16760 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 20:14:28 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 20:14:28 -0800 (PST) From: T Watson X-Sender: t123@orion To: Undisclosed recipients: ; Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Question: When I save a message, it is saved and deleted. But when I forward a message it is not. Can this be changed, ie, I want to automatically delete the message when it is forwarded. I don't subscribe to the newsgroup so please respond to me personally. thanks =============================== Troy Watson San Francisco State University http://mercury.sfsu.edu/~t123 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 21:28:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA28710 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 21:28:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA06668 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 21:23:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA06664 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 21:23:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vivtm-00038mC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 21:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: converting between Unix and Windows Pine folders Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 18:15:00 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 10 Jan 1997, Nancy McGough wrote: > What tools are available for converting between Unix and Windows > pine folders? I know about mbxcvt but it's not available on the Unix > systems I have accounts on. Is there something like mbxcvt that > runs on DOS/Windows? Depending on which formats you are converting, Pine itself should be able to do the conversion. On DOS/Windows, if you are going from bezerk to MTX format, you could set up a special PINERC file with an initial-keystrokes list that selects all messages in a folder and copies them to a new folder. You might wrap that in a BAT file that changes filenames, etc... > Does it do conversions in either direction? If you have a folder in the desired format, e.g. with a dummy message in it, Pine will add new messages in that format. This is the same with both Unix and PC Pines; PC-Pine's selection of formats is just more limited... > Can someone post exact instructions for how I can compile mbxcvt on > a Unix system. Download, uncompress, and untar ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z Change to the imap directory, then download, uncompress, and untar ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-utils.tar.Z Then make xxx # "xxx" is your platform cd mbxcvt make --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8710.46 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:27:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA28744 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:27:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA07365 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:24:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giascla.vsnl.net.in (giascla.vsnl.net.in [202.54.8.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA07361 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:24:07 -0800 Received: from localhost by giascla.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA08210; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 12:03:57 +0530 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 12:03:57 +0530 (IST) From: Dhruv Majumdar X-Sender: dhruv@giascla To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine info Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -> Requesting assistance in using Pine: pine-info@cac.washington.edu I am interested in changing my email id. from the default given by my Internet Service Provider to another which I have got. I am also interested in getting fullheaders for my mail , any help provided would be relly appreciated. Thank you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:46:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA29047 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:46:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA10639 for pine-info-out; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:43:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA10635 for ; Fri, 10 Jan 1997 22:43:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vix7H-00038lC; Fri, 10 Jan 97 22:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mathelmr@math.nus.sg (Helmer Aslaksen) Subject: Manually sort address book Date: 10 Jan 1997 03:24:04 GMT Message-ID: <5b4cok$r6b@nuscc.nus.sg> I've just switched from elm to pine. Under elm, I used to manually sort my adr book by country etc. I found this convenient. Is there any way to do that under pine? -- Helmer ASLAKSEN Department of Mathematics National University of Singapore Singapore 119260 Republic of Singapore aslaksen@math.nus.sg http://www.math.nus.sg/aslaksen/ phone: +65 772-2746 fax: +65 779-5452 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 00:12:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA30137 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 00:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA08555 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 00:08:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA08551 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 00:08:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0viyUa-00038TC; Sat, 11 Jan 97 00:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Pollak Subject: Can one forward and copy mail to another account? Date: Sat, 4 Jan 1997 05:37:16 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I understand how to use a .forward file. Is there any way to program a unix/pine account so that it will forward copies of the mail -- so that when I return, the mail will still be there in my account? I will be moving between accounts a lot for the next two months, and would like to have my New York mail available to me at both sites. (Yes, I know about telnetting, but it's frightfully slow between these two servers.) All suggestions appreciated, Michael __________________________________________________________________________ Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:07:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA21391 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:07:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA09162 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:04:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA09158 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:04:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vizLv-00038VC; Sat, 11 Jan 97 01:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: glotov@knot (Alex Glotov) Subject: Re: Best editors Date: 8 Jan 1997 14:46:48 GMT Message-ID: <5b0c0o$a27@cs1.FTA-Berlin.de> References: <32D26BAF.1E28@intermicro.com> Nancy McGough (nancym@ii.com) wrote: >Eric Wood writes: >>(in order or 1=best, 5=worst): >> >>1) WoPrEs 2.05. >>2) NE - Nice Editor 1.14. >>3) PICO - Pine's editor >>4) vi - I won't even list the pros and cons..... >Thanks for the summary Eric. I'm also interested in good text >editors and am especially interested the following features: >* autowrap and ability to set wrap margin; also something > equivalent to Pico's ^j which allows you to "justify" a > paragraph that has become a mess due to massive editing. >* versions that run on Win 3.1, Win 95, and Unix (text, not > necessarily X-Windows) >* ability to see line numbers (e.g. vi's `:set nu') >* ability to see tabs and end of lines (e.g. vi's `:set list') >* vi keystroke emulation >Thanks, >Nancy you said it: vi. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:16:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA30557 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:16:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA12215 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:04:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA12211 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:04:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vizKu-00038TC; Sat, 11 Jan 97 01:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Bryan H." Subject: Tin: 502 error Date: 8 Jan 1997 06:11:24 GMT Message-ID: <5avdqc$i36@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> Getting: Tin: 502 You are not allowed to talk. Goodbye Any ideas? I have not changed anything. TIA, Bryan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:02:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA30825 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:02:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA12872 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:59:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA12868 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 01:59:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vj0DD-00038TC; Sat, 11 Jan 97 01:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aiyar@ebv.oncology.wisc.edu (Ashok Aiyar) Subject: Re: PINE vs EUDORA! I still love my girlfriend. Date: 9 Jan 1997 17:13:17 GMT Message-ID: References: <32D17A05.440E@cs.ucla.edu> <32D33CE2.6B95@cs.ucla.edu> <32D4475A.3F3B@cs.ucla.edu> On Wed, 08 Jan 1997 17:18:18 -0800, Fabrizio Talucci wrote: >> The *OLD* Mac version of Eudora, when it was still a product from the >> University of Illinois (i.e Eudora 1.3 and earlier) supported direct >> use of the communication toolbox and worked directly over a modem. > >Provide a FTP site, and an explanation and comparison of what are the >advantages (if any) of using this old version of EUDORA on your MAC >rather than using directly a new PINE version on the UNIX server. Try ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/quest/eudora/mac/1.3 - it has all the software that you need to use Eudora over a serial connection, or MacTCP or a UUCP transport. You can also get a copy of the Eudora 1.3 source from the same directory. There are many differences between Eudora and Pine; minimally: a) off-line pop3 operation b) support for binhex encoding c) a gui interface that supports the use of a mouse The rest of your post is tripe, and it would be an exercise in futility to address it. Later, Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. McArdle Laboratory for Cancer Research University of Wisconsin-Madison From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:11:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA30893 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:11:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA09946 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:09:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA09942 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:09:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vj0IW-00038VC; Sat, 11 Jan 97 02:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rjackson@osf1.gmu.edu (Richard Jackson) Subject: Pine 4.0/IMAP4 Date: 8 Jan 1997 13:29:35 GMT Message-ID: <5b07fv$jr0@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are anxious for IMAP4 that is planned to be in Pine 4.0. Are there any estimates when Pine 4.0 will be available? Regards, Richard Jackson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:37:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA31269 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:37:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA13256 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:34:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA13252 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:34:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vj0il-00038TC; Sat, 11 Jan 97 02:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fabrizio Talucci Subject: Re: PINE vs EUDORA! I still love my tripe! Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 14:48:53 -0800 Message-ID: <32D575D5.4B2B@cs.ucla.edu> References: <32D17A05.440E@cs.ucla.edu> <32D33CE2.6B95@cs.ucla.edu> <32D4475A.3F3B@cs.ucla.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. McArdle Laboratory for Cancer Research University of Wisconsin-Madison wrote: > I've been using (and writing) communication and tcp/ip software for > PCs for over a decade, and perhaps, just perhaps, I might know what I am > talking about! > Grep through the helpfile/credits of the Trumpet Winsock for > "Ashok Aiyar" sometime. Or write Pete and ask him what he thinks of me. > Ahem .... do you know who wrote the first http server that ran over > KA9Q, the predominant TCP/IP package used on the "worldwide tcp/ip > radioamateur network" - to use your term? I also wrote parts of a > gopher server for KA9Q, and re-wrote portions of the KA9Q smtp, pop2, > pop3 and ftp servers. > Incidentally, NuPOP akin to Eudora did not need to run over TCP/IP. > Here are at least three free TCP/IP stacks for PCs. > a) KA9Q - free for academics and hams > b) NCSA's stack (used in both the NCSA and CUTCP packages) > c) WATTCP Fabrizio Taucci wrote: > Why don't you write a New explaining in details (supposing a low bps > rate modem): > 1) what mail program install over what FREE TCP/IP stack, to have POP > facility on a simple Pc without Windows (NuPOP ?), > 2) what mail program install on a old PC to provide POP facility without > TCP/IP and Windows (NuPOP ?), > 3) what mail program install on a old MAC to provide POP facility > without TCP/IP (Eudora ?), > 4) the licenses of all your suggestions, > 5) other facilities (such as websurfing) provided (or almost) by each > configuration, > ? > In MAC case, for instance, make sure that the reader understands that > you are not talking about the popular EUDORA but about: > > The *OLD* Mac version of Eudora, when it was still a product from the > > University of Illinois (i.e Eudora 1.3 and earlier) supported direct > > use of the communication toolbox and worked directly over a modem. > > Provide a FTP site, and an explanation and comparison of what are the > advantages (if any) of using this old version of EUDORA on your MAC > rather than using directly a new PINE version on the UNIX server. > > Of course provide, experimental results, what you really did, not what > you think that will work. > Almost never used EUDORA in my life but, please, check QUALCOMM web site... That's what Talucci Fabrizio got: > Try ftp://ftp.qualcomm.com/quest/eudora/mac/1.3 - it has all the > software that you need to use Eudora over a serial connection, or MacTCP > or a UUCP transport. > > You can also get a copy of the Eudora 1.3 source from the same directory. > There are many differences between Eudora and Pine; minimally: > a) off-line pop3 operation > b) support for binhex encoding > c) a gui interface that supports the use of a mouse Thank Ashok very much. Without you, we are lost! At this point, I don't think it is worthwhile to waste other time with you. So, I'll not reply more. ------------------------------- Rest of the world. This matter starts to be interesting! I wanna put order. Istead of trying 'the *OLD* Mac version of Eudora' 1.3, as Ashok suggest, I'm going to try Eudora 1.5. A friend of mine, that didn't write anything of the KA9Q stuff but that is able to read, noticed something that sounds interesting. In the QUALCOMM web site he noticed, as I did, that "Direct Serial Dialup" and "Integrated TCP/IP, SLIP and PPP software" are not supported in Eudora 1.1 and Eudora 1.4 (both PC version), but only in the commercial version. Now, in the same site it also written that "Integrated TCP/IP, SLIP and PPP software" is not supported in Eudora 1.3.1 and Eudora 1.5 (both MAC version), but only in the commercial version. In this case, nothing is said about "Direct Serial Dialup"!! It is not considered an enhancement to 1.3.1. In his opinion, that at this point is also mine, not only 'the *OLD* Mac version of Eudora' 1.3 is able to send and receive mail remotely, via modem, without a SLIP or PPP connection, but probably also Eudora 1.5! ( Ashok, did you check QUALCOMM site, right? ) ( Oh sorry, I'm forgetting you dont' have to, you know! ) So, do you have an old PC/MAC and old modem? You don't want to replace them, neither pay a service provider just to check your E-mail. You do not have TCP/IP stack and you do not want to buy one. Do you have a free telnet Unix account from an Educational istitution? This is for you. The choices appear to be: OLD MAC: Eudora 1.3 vs VT100(PINE/Unix). OLD PC : VT100(PINE/Unix) vs NuPOP vs PC-PINE(DOS/WATTCP). Of course, I'm taking VT100 as popular but other choices are welcome. Of course, I'm taking PINE/Unix because we are in the PINE NEWSGROUP! (just to prevent a lot of replies saying I misinform !) ON the MAC side there is a good reason to suppose that also Eudora 1.5 can be used. On the PC side there is a suggestion about NuPOP. Anybody tried it? The suggestion about using a free TCP/IP stack and then choosing, for instance, PC-PINE (because we are in the PINE Newsgroup!) appears not practical, especially if you do not know what a Gigabit is! http://www.rtd.com/pcnfsfaq/SecA.html#A-3a reports a good list of TCP/IP stacks. As you can see TCP/IP, NORMALLY, is not free, neither cheap. Anyway, KA9Q and Waterloo (WATTCP) seem free. But they are not "plug and play". The popular Waterloo TCP, for instance, is devoted to developers and needs to be compiled. Just to check E-mail, it appears too much. ftp://ftp.cac.psu.edu/pub/dos/info/ibmpc-tcpip.FAQ reports (A-5): "KA9Q supports SLIP/CSLIP/PPP, but unfortunately can not be used as a TCP/IP protocol stack to run other apps." Ashok Aiyar, one of the developer of KA9Q stuff, didn't help so much to put clearness on this topic, as you can see! ("Re: PINE vs EUDORA! I still love my tripe!" in this Newsgroup) Other TCP/IP packages can be found in: ftp://ftp.cac.psu.edu/pub/dos/info/tcpip.packages Other aspects have to be considered: If you succeed to run WATTCP for instance, you can also navigate with graphic (SPIN) or without (DOSLYNX) in case you have a low bps modem. Did you succeed? Wait a moment.If your Unix account provide just a simple telnet session you need also SLIP/PPP support. Ther is a suggestion about SLiRP. It doesn't appear so difficult. There is precompiled stuff! But also accessing as a simple VT100 terminal it is enough to navigate (LYNX) without graphic. What is the best? Do you suggest something? Much better, did you try something? I tried VT100(PINE/Unix) on MAC. See "PINE vs EUDORA" in this Newsgroup. It looks good and very easy to install! ___ __ _ __ __ __ /_ /_| /_> /_/ / / / / / E-mail: talucci@cs.ucla.edu / / | /_> / | / /_ / /_/ AX25:IK7NCU@IK7MXD.PUG.ITA.EU ___ __ __ __ http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~talucci / /_| / / / / ' / ' / Addr: UCLA-CSD Boelter Hall 3771 / / | /_ /_/ /_/ /_/ / Tel:(310) Off. 2068589 Home 4450647 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 03:01:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA31514 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 03:01:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA10435 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:59:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA10431 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:59:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vj16l-00038TC; Sat, 11 Jan 97 02:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oak@crl.com (Tony Gonzalez) Subject: Viewing the FULL header? Date: 11 Jan 1997 02:01:39 -0800 Message-ID: <5b7oe3$9nj@crl12.crl.com> Anyone know how I can view a full mail header? sometimes I get spam mail and I need to see the full mail header in order to know who to complain to. Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 03:02:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA31594 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 03:02:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA13495 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:59:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA13491 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 02:59:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vj18P-00038VC; Sat, 11 Jan 97 02:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oak@crl.com (Tony Gonzalez) Subject: vi keystrokes to move around? Date: 11 Jan 1997 02:04:17 -0800 Message-ID: <5b7oj1$9ns@crl12.crl.com> Is there any way to get pine to emulate vi like keystrokes for moving around the index's? i.e., "j" for down "i" for up, etc. Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 06:14:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA32744 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 06:14:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA12570 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 06:09:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA12566 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 06:09:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vj46V-00038TC; Sat, 11 Jan 97 06:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: William C Bonner Message-ID: <32D78D92.2776@lgx.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 06:54:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Viewing the FULL header? References: <5b7oe3$9nj@crl12.crl.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tony Gonzalez wrote: > > Anyone know how I can view a full mail header? > sometimes I get spam mail and I need to see > the full mail header in order to know who > to complain to. > > Thanks Try hitting the H key when you are viewing the message. You may have to go to the pine configuration screen and select enable-full-header-cmd as an option. Wim. -- William C Bonner 6110 E Mockingbird Ln Home Fax: +1-214-692-9277 Voice: +1-214-692-9278 Suite 102-762 Work Fax: +1-214-989-9782 Voice: +1-214-989-9781 Dallas, TX 75214-2600 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 07:46:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA00031 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 07:46:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA13520 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 07:43:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA13513 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 07:43:39 -0800 Received: from shiva2.cac.washington.edu (shiva2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.202]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA26900; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 07:43:37 -0800 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 07:43:36 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Richard Jackson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 4.0/IMAP4 In-Reply-To: <5b07fv$jr0@portal.gmu.edu> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 8 Jan 1997, Richard Jackson wrote: > We are anxious for IMAP4 that is planned to be in Pine 4.0. Are there any > estimates when Pine 4.0 will be available? Richard, Exactly *which* IMAP4 features are you anxious for? (The only user-visible one planned for Pine 4.00 is folder hierarchy support.) -teg From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:55:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA01158 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:55:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA18264 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:50:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA18260 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 09:50:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vj7W4-00038TC; Sat, 11 Jan 97 09:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: krin@wam.umd.edu (Karen King) Subject: Re: help Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 17:31:24 GMT Message-ID: <32d52a55.6207293@news.wam.umd.edu> References: On 3 Jan 1997 10:47:15 -0800, kmk@wam.umd.edu (Kevin Michael Kraft) wrote: >To Whom It May Concern: > >Somehow my INBOX has become a read-only folder, and I can't seem to find >out how I changed it. Subsequently I have not been able to delete the one >message in the folder. >Please let me know what I need to do to remedy the problem > >Thank you >Kevin Kraft >(University of Maryland student) I have also had the same problem from time to time, and here's how I've learned to fix it: at the prompt, type: mv ~/../mail/{YOUR LOGIN ID HERE} ~/mail/oldINBOX pico ~/mail/oldINBOX When you run pico, it'll say something like "Long Lines Wrapped", but there won't be anything on the screen. Press either Ctrl-6 or Ctrl-^ to set a mark. The screen should say "Mark Set". Then use Ctrl-V to page down until you get to the first complete message, which starts with "From:". Position the cursor one line above the "From" line, and use Ctrl-K to delete everything above. Exit and Save. Start Pine. It'll say there's no inbox. Open the oldINBOX folder, and there's your mail - all except the first message which got corrupted. Pine will create a new inbox the next time there's mail in it. It's definitely a pain! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:17:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA02246 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:17:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA19317 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:13:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cyprus.it.earthlink.net (cyprus-c.it.earthlink.net [204.119.177.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA19313 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:13:21 -0800 Received: from LOCALNAME (max2-ot-ca-27.earthlink.net [206.149.196.127]) by cyprus.it.earthlink.net (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA12945 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 11:13:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <32D7F4D2.1113@earthlink.com> Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 12:15:14 -0800 From: Frank Yegge Reply-To: yfrankiii@earthlink.com Organization: THE YEGGE FAMILY X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win16; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: DOS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My daughter needs DOS based email. She is in college in Missouri and we (her parents) live in California. We need to email each other. I have Earthlink email. My daughter in Missouri has: 1. A laptop computer with: 60 meg hard drive with 24 megs unused. 630 basic memory 1024 RAM DOS 6.0 The question: Do you have an email program (software) that she can use to communicate with us here in California by email? Please send information. Help and thank you, Frank Yegge From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 13:39:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA03167 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 13:39:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA21054 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 13:35:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA21050 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 13:35:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjB3e-00038pC; Sat, 11 Jan 97 13:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rachel Michelle Lutz Subject: MUSIC 193/393 Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 23:04:11 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII does anyone want to buy a music 193/393 book with cassettes??? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:21:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA04069 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:21:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA22322 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:14:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from aix1.uottawa.ca (aix1.uottawa.ca [137.122.33.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA22318 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:14:26 -0800 From: mmyles@aix1.uottawa.ca Received: from localhost by aix1.uottawa.ca (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA120594; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 18:15:20 -0500 Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 18:15:20 -0500 (EST) To: U Washington Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THIS: HOW CAN I SEND A NOTE TO ALL MEMBERS OF MY ADDRESS LIST SIMULTANEOUSLY??? THANKS. MIKE MYLES, OTTAWA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:24:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA04259 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:24:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA22424 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:21:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA22420 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:20:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjChn-00039nC; Sat, 11 Jan 97 15:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Susanne Kalenka Subject: Change of permission of file #pico?????# Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 13:44:21 +0000 Message-ID: <32D4F635.775E@elec.qmw.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm using pine version 3.93. I would like to change the 'default' permission of the #pico?????# file. The permission for the dead.letter is fine but I don't like that the #pico?????# file is readable by everybody. -rw------- 1 susanne phd 1419 Jan 9 13:32 dead.letter -rw-r--r-- 1 susanne phd 6031 Jan 9 13:28 #pico11763# As the file is automatically created and the ????? changes depending on the process number of pine, I don't have any idea how to change the permission. Thanks a lot, Susanne Susanne Kalenka Distributed AI Unit Phone: +44 171 975 5354 Dept. of Electronic Eng. Fax : +44 181 981 0259 Queen Mary & Westfield College Mile End Road EMail: S.Kalenka@qmw.ac.uk London E1 4NS, U.K. WWW : http://www.elec.qmw.ac.uk/dai/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:32:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA04371 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:32:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA19184 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:20:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA19180 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 15:20:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjChn-00039mC; Sat, 11 Jan 97 15:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: black@csulb.edu (Matthew Black) Subject: Re: How to prevent pine from dialing out? Date: 9 Jan 1997 16:57:37 GMT Message-ID: <5b3821$1a5@hatathli.csulb.edu> References: <5au6ba$3ns@henge2.henge.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article <5au6ba$3ns@henge2.henge.com>, cfmc@henge1.henge.com says... >I'm running on an SCO 3.0 system, which attempts to make ppp connections >on demand. If my machine is not connected to the Internet and someone >wants to read their mail or compose new mail they have to wait for pine >to connect before they can begin. If the connection fails the person >can't use pine at all. > It seems that there must be a way to suppress this attempt to connect >to the Internet, but I haven't found it. Setting my mail server to >localhost looked like it ought to work, but didn't. The best way to surpess this action is by deleting your PINE binary. > What is it that pine is trying to do that makes it connect to the >Internet at startup rather than waiting for new outgoing mail to be >launched? My system pulls e-mail to it via POP3, so there is no need >for pine to be looking for new mail. > >Thanks for the help, >Bill Cripe Upon sending, PINE calls sendmail to process a message. Your system should contain a file /etc/sendmail.cf indicating which host is the SMTP gateway. When PINE passes it an outgoing message, sendmail will forward that message to the SMTP gateway by initiating a TCP connection. If your gateway is set to localhost, then sendmail will establish a direct connection with the recipient's mail server. In order to establish a TCP connection, you need to establish a link to the Internet. If you want Internet mail capabilities, your system needs a connection to the Internet. Hope this helps. --matt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:47:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA07764 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:47:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA27500 for pine-info-out; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:43:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from qlink.queensu.ca (Qlink.QueensU.CA [130.15.129.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA27496 for ; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 22:42:55 -0800 Received: from localhost by qlink.queensu.ca (SMI-8.6/ccs9603) id BAA16484; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 01:42:52 -0500 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 01:42:51 -0500 (EST) From: Parker Krista L <6klp2@qlink.queensu.ca> X-Sender: 6klp2@qlink1 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: VERY IMPORTANT! PLEASE HELP ASAP!!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I just recieved an attachment on an email and I saved it under export/home/qlink/6klp2/(name of file) and the computer said I have to go to the home directory or something. How do I get there?!!!! This is a very important attachment that I need right away!! Please help. ASAP Thank you Krista Parker @ Queens University From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 01:31:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA08742 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 01:31:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA02735 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 01:27:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA02731 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 01:27:32 -0800 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.8.3/8.5) with SMTP id DAA10390; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:18:42 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:18:41 -0600 (CST) From: Robert J Wilshe Reply-To: Robert J Wilshe To: Parker Krista L <6klp2@qlink.queensu.ca> cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: VERY IMPORTANT! PLEASE HELP ASAP!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Krista: It appears that the file was saved in your home directory, which PINE uses by default for saves unless you tell it differently when actually saving the file. If you didn't tell it differently, here's how you can see it and view it: If you haven't exited PINE yet, do so. Then at your command prompt (which probably looks like a "%" sign or something similar, type "ls -la", and hit enter. This will list the entire contents of your home directory. Your file *should* be there. Assuming it's text you can type "pico (name of file)" and that will let you see the text attachment. If it's a binary, like a word processing file or a spreadsheet file, you will most likely need to FTP it out of your home directory onto your work station or PC. If this is the case contact your system administrator at your school, and he or she can advise you on the best way to accomplish this. Let me know if this helps. Good luck, \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ robert depaul university joseph chicago illinois wilshe u s a email rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Parker Krista L wrote: > I just recieved an attachment on an email and I saved it under > export/home/qlink/6klp2/(name of file) and the computer said I have to go > to the home directory or something. How do I get there?!!!! This is a > very important attachment that I need right away!! Please help. ASAP > Thank you > Krista Parker @ Queens University > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 01:32:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA08750 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 01:32:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA02723 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 01:26:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA02719 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 01:26:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjM9y-00038ZC; Sun, 12 Jan 97 01:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Untitled Date: 9 Jan 1997 16:05:32 GMT Message-ID: <5b350c$f0g$1@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [Posted and mailed] In article , fsimmond@injersey.com (Fred Simmonds) writes: > Was composing a message. got disconnected. when reconnected had > difficulty finding my message and when found it, no commands would > respond. finally lost by composed message before i could send it. > how do i find a message that was interrupted when my fone line > disconnected and was reconnected? there seems no applicable folder in > which it would end up. I was in similar situation: lost connection due to PPP/Phone problems in the middle of composing a new email. Pine was on an SGI (Irix 5.3, Pine 3.95). When I reconnect and started composing new message in Pine, I got a prompt to recover from a crash. I said yes, and got in pretty much where I left. So, it was a good experience. I know my Pine was compiled with all the options in default values. If yours is different, the behavior may be different. Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == www.uc.edu/~yuanj = Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = using Knews (Irix5.3) == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 02:40:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA09410 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 02:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA00113 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 02:36:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA00109 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 02:36:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjNFP-00038WC; Sun, 12 Jan 97 02:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: Untitled Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 06:05:25 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On 11 Jan 1997 mmyles@aix1.uottawa.ca wrote: > HOW CAN I SEND A NOTE TO ALL MEMBERS OF MY ADDRESS LIST SIMULTANEOUSLY??? When you're composing the note, put all those addresses in the BCC field in the header. If the BCC field isn't already-visible on the top of the screen, then move the cursor up there and press Control-R. This should bring up the BCC field along with other ones. Fill in the BCC field with those addresses and that's it. Hope this helps. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:05:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA09759 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:05:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA03717 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:01:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA03710 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:01:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjNeL-00038WC; Sun, 12 Jan 97 03:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Subject: Re: Three new problems popping up Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 04:00:23 GMT Message-ID: <32d8611f.134678471@news.cdc.com> References: On Sat, 11 Jan 1997 17:20:18 -0800, Clint Danbury wrote: > >I have moved. My old ISP back in california is still, even counting long >distance fines, a better buy than what I've found here in Dallas. > >So I have called and connected; whenever I was to compose or forward, pine >paints the screen a bit slowly, then Pine thinks that I'm sending illegal >commands, and beeps at me that he doesn't understand "Q" or whatever, when >I know perfectly well that I did not touch that key. > >Which of the fifty thousand rules do I read to learn of how to fix this >bomb ? Sounds like you need to learn some rules of communications. It sense that you are dialing long distance to your old ISP. The chaces are more than good that noise is being picked up and creating these false characters for you. You need to learn how to turn on error correction in your modem and (if required) your communications SW. It may be helpful to contact the helpdesk of your old ISP. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:05:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA09772 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:05:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA03740 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:02:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA03730 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 03:02:47 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 19:01:58 +0800 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 18:56:34 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko Reply-To: Ed Greshko To: Guess Who? cc: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple news group listings with Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Guess Who? wrote: > I have a long list and wish to copy it from my word perfect. Each board > is separated by a comma and I am using the "cut" and "paste" which has > the lines automatically wrap. I am trying to sell something and that is > the reason for the multiple boards. > > The problem is that because of the size of the list, it fills up the > Newsgroup: section and then carries on into the summary and the keyword > sections. > Hummm....selling something???? Anyway, the problem is that you cut and paste is putting in the cr for you. So, solve that problem and you have a fix. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 04:24:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA07644 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 04:24:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA01315 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 04:16:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA01311 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 04:16:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjOqK-00038WC; Sun, 12 Jan 97 04:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Subject: Re: Displaying plaintext and not HTML Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 21:26:47 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5b83fg$1t9u@navajo.gate.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5b83fg$1t9u@navajo.gate.net> Hi Jason, On 11 Jan 1997, Jason Willoughby wrote: : Having been innundated by HTML emails from early adopters of Netscape's : new version (a problem that's only going to get worse), I decided to fix : it. So I poured over man pages, edited mailcaps, and generally killed ten : minutes. Held my breath, launched pine, and... : : [Part 1, Text/PLAIN 35 lines] : [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part] : : [Part 2, "" Text/HTML 39 lines] : [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part] : : Hmm. So now that I've succeeded in telling pine that it can't handle : Text/HTML, how do I tell it that it *can* handle Text/PLAIN? : : jwilloug@gate.net : You might not be able to. Here is a post from someone else... > I tried to respond the the previous message that DID have both forms of > message content above and kept getting an 8-bit character error when > trying to post. There was nothing in the body, either text or html > sections, that looked to me to be 8-bit, but the error persisted. ? I found that PINE will NOT read message in the form of the new NutScrape bug by selecting 'v', but if you must, you CAN read the message if you reply, oddly enough. Take care, Michael (shotgun@best.com) Press CTRL + L-AMIGA + R-AMIGA to continue... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 04:44:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA09980 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 04:44:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA01556 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 04:39:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA01552 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 04:39:21 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 12 Jan 97 13:39:13 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id NAA00242 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 13:30:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 13:30:49 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: Pine user list Subject: Re: VERY IMPORTANT! PLEASE HELP ASAP!!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII >On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Parker Krista L wrote: > >> I just recieved an attachment on an email and I saved it under >> export/home/qlink/6klp2/(name of file) and the computer said I have to go >> to the home directory or something. How do I get there?!!!! This is a >> very important attachment that I need right away!! Please help. ASAP On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Robert J Wilshe wrote: >Krista: >It appears that the file was saved in your home directory, which PINE uses ^^^^ export/home/qlink/6klp2/ ? >by default for saves unless you tell it differently when actually saving >the file. If you didn't tell it differently, here's how you can see it >and view it: > >If you haven't exited PINE yet, do so. Then at your command prompt (which >probably looks like a "%" sign or something similar, type "ls -la", and >hit enter. This will list the entire contents of your home directory. >Your file *should* be there. Assuming it's text you can type "pico (name >of file)" and that will let you see the text attachment. more , or less should be easier;-) >If it's a >binary, like a word processing file or a spreadsheet file, you will most >likely need to FTP it out of your home directory onto your work station or >PC. If this is the case contact your system administrator at your school, >and he or she can advise you on the best way to accomplish this. Don't let Robert J. Wilshe scare you off;-) Type ftp, open (e.g. ftp.your-uni.edu), change (cd) to export/home/qlink/6klp2/, type ls (or dir) to locate the file, type get and there you are. Just my $.02. Have a nice weekend, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 06:01:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA10740 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 06:01:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA05634 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 05:57:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA05630 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 05:57:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjQOP-00038WC; Sun, 12 Jan 97 05:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kong Sing Yeong Subject: Reply (Re: Threading NG with pine...) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 13:46:29 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Press ; -- select T -- Text S -- Subject not very useful if you want fully threaded news reading though, but useful enough if you are searching for an article with a particular subject header or a particular sender, etc... Sing Yeong A copy has been posted to the NG. On 12 Jan 1997, Aldy Hernandez wrote: > Kong Sing Yeong writes: > > > > > > > I just realised that you can actually thread the news articles using > > select (;) ....never thought of that before :) > > > > how do you mean? > > -- > Aldy > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 07:51:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA11379 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 07:51:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA03412 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 07:46:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from naveen.ncst.ernet.in (naveen.ncst.ernet.in [202.41.110.35]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA03408 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 07:46:12 -0800 Received: from iisc.ernet.in (iisc.ernet.in [144.16.64.3]) by naveen.ncst.ernet.in (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA12272 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:20:38 +0530 Received: from ece.iisc.ernet.in by iisc.ernet.in (ERNET-IISc/SMI-8.6.5) id VAA16720; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:15:51 +0530 Received: from protocol.ece.iisc.ernet.in by ece.iisc.ernet.in (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA29481; Sun, 12 Jan 97 21:15:06+0530 Received: by protocol.ece.iisc.ernet.in (ERNET-IISc/SMI-4.1) id VAA06309; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:21:46 +0500 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:21:46 +0500 From: basker@protocol.ece.iisc.ernet.in (P.Basker) Message-Id: <199701121621.VAA06309@protocol.ece.iisc.ernet.in> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help help From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 08:27:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA11602 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 08:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA03794 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 08:22:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA03790 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 08:22:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjSed-00038BC; Sun, 12 Jan 97 08:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: DOS Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <32D7F4D2.1113@earthlink.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 06:00:33 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <32D7F4D2.1113@earthlink.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 11 Jan 1997, Frank Yegge wrote: > My daughter needs DOS based email. She is in college in Missouri > and we (her parents) live in California. We need to email each other. I > have Earthlink email. > My daughter in Missouri has: > 1. A laptop computer with: 60 meg hard drive with 24 megs unused. > 630 basic memory > 1024 RAM > DOS 6.0 > The question: Do you have an email program (software) that she can use > to communicate with us here in California by email? Please send > information. There are Free-Nets in California. For a list of them, visit: http://www.scn.org/other.freenets.html These Free-Nets are typically terminal-based, meaning that you can connect to them from a DOS machine with a terminal program (e.g. Telix for DOS). Hope this helps. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 16:06:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA15145 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 16:06:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA12400 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 15:58:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA12396 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 15:58:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjZkM-00038BC; Sun, 12 Jan 97 15:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwilloug@gate.net (Jason Willoughby) Subject: Displaying plaintext and not HTML Date: 11 Jan 1997 08:10:08 -0500 Message-ID: <5b83fg$1t9u@navajo.gate.net> Having been innundated by HTML emails from early adopters of Netscape's new version (a problem that's only going to get worse), I decided to fix it. So I poured over man pages, edited mailcaps, and generally killed ten minutes. Held my breath, launched pine, and... [Part 1, Text/PLAIN 35 lines] [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part] [Part 2, "" Text/HTML 39 lines] [Not Shown. Use the "V" command to view or save this part] Hmm. So now that I've succeeded in telling pine that it can't handle Text/HTML, how do I tell it that it *can* handle Text/PLAIN? jwilloug@gate.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:13:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA15680 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:13:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA13234 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:08:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pinto.is (pinto.is.csupomona.edu [134.71.220.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA13224 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:08:33 -0800 Received: from clstac.is.csupomona.edu by clstac.is.csupomona.edu (PMDF V5.1-5 #12244) id <01IE4SWVOO9S8ZEUXE@clstac.is.csupomona.edu> for PINE-INFO@CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:08:32 PST Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:08:32 -0800 (PST) From: "MAIL_NAME \"LEANNE CHAU\"" To: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS ANY WAY THAT I COULD BLOCK SOMEONE OUT OF MY ACCOUNT SO THAT I COULD NOT RECIEVE ANY MAIL FROM THEM? THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. LEANNE P. CHAU From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:32:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA13149 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:32:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA13447 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:25:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wuacn.wustl.edu (wuacn.wustl.edu [128.252.163.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA13443 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:25:11 -0800 Received: (from rj@localhost) by wuacn.wustl.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) id TAA14665; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 19:25:09 -0600 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 19:25:08 -0600 (CST) From: Guess Who? To: Ed Greshko cc: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple news group listings with Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII What is "cr" and what is the solution? ****************************************************************************** On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Guess Who? wrote: > > > I have a long list and wish to copy it from my word perfect. Each board > > is separated by a comma and I am using the "cut" and "paste" which has > > the lines automatically wrap. I am trying to sell something and that is > > the reason for the multiple boards. > > > > The problem is that because of the size of the list, it fills up the > > Newsgroup: section and then carries on into the summary and the keyword > > sections. > > > > Hummm....selling something???? > > Anyway, the problem is that you cut and paste is putting in > the cr for you. So, solve that problem and you have a fix. > > Ed > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:52:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA15977 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:52:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA10228 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:47:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from po.cisnet.or.jp (po.cisnet.or.jp [202.32.252.36]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA10224 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:47:44 -0800 Received: from his-ppp.rerf.or.jp (ppp004.cisnet.or.jp [202.32.252.4]) by po.cisnet.or.jp (8.8.3/3.5W) with ESMTP id KAA17938 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:47:41 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199701130147.KAA17938@po.cisnet.or.jp> From: "Hiroshima International School" To: Subject: Help me with my Mac Plus Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:50:29 +0900 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hallow, my name is Adam Matsuba and I'm sending you this message because I need an professional's opinion on my Mac Plus. I have a Macintosh Plus 1MB, and a Macintosh Performa 5260. The Macintosh Plus does not have an HD, and also is low on RAM. I want to get the RAM upgraded to 4MB's so I can run the minimized version of Mac System 7.0 or 7.1, and if possible 7.3 and up. Also I want to get a reasonable 80MB or 120MB HD for it, I want it external. And in the future, I want to set the Mac Plus as a Mail and FAX receiver. Also I want to connect it to my Performa with LocalTalk, and set up a Dial-up net server so I can access my Mac's from School. But I want to get the RAM and HD for under $250.00, so what do you think, is it possible and do you Have any Ideas, any please, I love my Mac Plus and I don't want it in the trash. My e-mail address is: his888@po.cisnet.or.jp and my name is Adam Matsuba. Thank you From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:55:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA16023 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:55:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA10272 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:50:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA10268 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 17:50:15 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 13 Jan 97 02:50:08 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA03522; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 02:48:01 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 02:48:00 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: "MAIL_NAME \"LEANNE CHAU\"" cc: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, MAIL_NAME "LEANNE CHAU" wrote: >I WAS WONDERING IF THERE WAS ANY WAY THAT I COULD BLOCK SOMEONE OUT OF MY >ACCOUNT SO THAT I COULD NOT RECIEVE ANY MAIL FROM THEM? THANK YOU FOR >YOUR TIME. Well, write a mail with caps lock on to as many people as possible, that should do the trick. Otherwise check ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de for pub/packages/procmail/procmail.tar.gz. Or get another filter. There is a nice filtering faq at www.yahoo.com. Speaking of which - doesn't it say "pine cannot filter mail" in the first line of the pine-faq >;_> Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 18:22:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA15892 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 18:22:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA14030 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 18:17:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from laca0.laca.ohio.gov (laca0.laca.ohio.gov [156.63.145.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA14013 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 18:17:00 -0800 Received: from 198.234.239.100 by LACA.OHIO.GOV (PMDF V5.0-6 #6770) id <01IE51KPDLS00056X3@LACA.OHIO.GOV>; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:16:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:18:03 +0000 From: Barry Moore Subject: Application/MS-TNEF To: bmoore@LACA.OHIO.GOV, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: <32D9FDCB.3AA@laca.ohio.gov> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Help ??? I've started receiving mail containing two parts. The first part is usually a few lines of ASCII text. The second part is about 2.9KB long and PINE 3.91 identifies it as application/MS-TNEF. The only thing I can do with the second part is save it to a file. The headers show that the sender is using Microsoft Mail. I asked someone who sent me such a message what he was doing. She was a computer novice and didn't know. Several messages from her had the attachment and several didn't. She didn't indicate she had done anything different when sending the mail without the attachment. So, what is the MS-TNEF attachment? Why is it called an application? What causes it to be sent? Is it necessary? If not, how can it be avoided? Thanks, Barry -- Barry Moore Mathematics Teacher Newark High School 314 Granville Street Newark, Ohio 43055 bmoore@laca.ohio.gov From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 19:50:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA17702 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 19:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA12246 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 19:43:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA12242 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 19:43:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjdHg-00038UC; Sun, 12 Jan 97 19:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kalpana Reddy Kothapally Subject: regarding mailing a wordperfect document. Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 17:21:00 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hello, I would like to know as to how can I mail a word perfect document using pine so that I don't need to save the document in any format other than wordperfect 6.0 which I am using. I would like the receiver to receive it in the same format as I had documented it in wordperfect.(meaning I do not want any ASCII characters to replace the bullets or any other special symbols I use for the document). Thanks. ..Kalpana From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 19:52:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA17767 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 19:52:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA15685 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 19:47:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA15678 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 19:47:29 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:46:42 +0800 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:41:16 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Guess Who? cc: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Multiple news group listings with Pine 3.91 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Guess Who? wrote: > What is "cr" and what is the solution? CR=carriage return. The solution will depend on your situation which only you know. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 20:10:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA03653 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 20:10:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA12613 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 20:06:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA12609 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 20:06:09 -0800 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.8.3/8.5) with SMTP id VAA24555; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:57:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:57:13 -0600 (CST) From: Robert J Wilshe Reply-To: Robert J Wilshe To: Kalpana Reddy Kothapally cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: regarding mailing a wordperfect document. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Kalpana: Simple enough. Just FTP the file into your home directory, which can be viewed at any UNIX prompt by typing "cd ~/" then "pwd". Once the file is there, you can attach it when you are composing your letter. When your cursor is on the "Attchmnt:" field press cntl-T and this will take you to your files in your home directory. Select the file you want to send, and you're set. Make sure though that your recipient can process mime-encoded mail, which is how pine will send it. (Robin, if you're there, help us out with UNIX ftp. I use a Win95 client, and I know you're proficient with the UNIX ftp commands. :) Good luck and best regards, \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ robert depaul university joseph chicago illinois wilshe u s a email rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Kalpana Reddy Kothapally wrote: > hello, > > I would like to know as to how can I mail a word perfect document using > pine so that I don't need to save the document in any format other than > wordperfect 6.0 which I am using. I would like the receiver to receive > it in the same format as I had documented it in wordperfect.(meaning I do > not want any ASCII characters to replace the bullets or any other special > symbols I use for the document). > > Thanks. > ..Kalpana > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:02:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA18433 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:02:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA16548 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 20:58:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA16543 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 20:58:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjeQy-00038BC; Sun, 12 Jan 97 20:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: Untitled Date: 13 Jan 1997 04:47:16 GMT Message-ID: References: On 11 Jan 1997 15:21:44 -0800, mmyles@aix1.uottawa.ca wrote: > >COULD ANYONE PLEASE TELL ME THIS: > >HOW CAN I SEND A NOTE TO ALL MEMBERS OF MY ADDRESS LIST SIMULTANEOUSLY??? Hi Mike... (Yeesh! first start by turning OFF CapsLock...) From the Pine main menu, select the address book. Create an address which lists all the users you want to send mail to, and give it a unique name. Then when you send the message to this name Pine will fill in all the addresses. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi Barometer, n.: An ingenious instrument which indicates what kind of weather we are having. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:53:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA18643 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:53:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA17180 for pine-info-out; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:50:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA17175 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:50:12 -0800 Received: from dante10.u.washington.edu (dante10.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.36]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA19442 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:46:29 -0800 Received: from localhost (rachelj@localhost) by dante10.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA35454 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:50:11 -0800 Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 21:50:11 -0800 (PST) From: "R. Johnson" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: confused Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I am having a problem with finding my old messages I do not know how I could have erased them because it is still stating that I have 80 messages but only four of them our showing up on the screen. I have tried the command "I" in the main menu but it still only pulled up those four messages. Can you please explain what I have done and if I can get my old messages back? Thank you, Rachel From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 00:38:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA19805 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 00:38:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA15761 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 00:29:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA15757 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 00:29:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjhhg-00038UC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 00:25 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: Printing from Pine Date: 13 Jan 1997 04:39:53 GMT Message-ID: References: <9701082228.AA00953@ulnar.BioStr.Washington.EDU> On 8 Jan 1997 14:35:36 -0800, William Barker wrote: > >In order to print out a copy of a message I am sending >someone from Pine I have been in the habit of sending myself >a copy & then printing it out. Is there some way I can print >out a message before I send it off? On a Unix system, you could set an alternate editor, (vi, for example), then when you're ready to print, invoke the alternate editor with the ^_ command, and print from there. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi Barometer, n.: An ingenious instrument which indicates what kind of weather we are having. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:09:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA20331 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:09:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA19454 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:04:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA19450 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:04:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjiFN-00038VC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 01:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Pine-os2 problem Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:19:16 +0000 Message-ID: References: <32CC789C.5398@eskimo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32CC789C.5398@eskimo.com> On Fri, 3 Jan 1997, Dana Booth wrote: :>I have a problem with pine-os2, it won't seem to properly write a :>message-id; it leaves everything off after the '@', so the message id's :>look something like '<000000.00000@> :> :>The pinerc file is proper, and has all of the appropriate domain names :>and all that happy crap. Has anyone ever used the os/2 port, and if you :>have, ever experienced this? Yes, I do, and yes, my outgoing email shows the same symptom. I have cc'd the autthor of the OS/2 port. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:24:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA20420 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:24:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA16327 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:19:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA16323 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:19:27 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:17:48 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA02616; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:19:11 GMT Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:19:10 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Bryan H." cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Tin: 502 error In-Reply-To: <5avdqc$i36@nnrp4.farm.idt.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Ideas? Yes... try asking in the news.software.readers newsgroup. This forum (comp.mail.pine newsgroup / Pine-Info mailing list) is for discussing the mail/news program called "Pine". It is nothing to do with Tin, which is a quite separate program. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 8 Jan 1997, Bryan H. wrote: > Getting: > > Tin: 502 You are not allowed to talk. Goodbye > > Any ideas? I have not changed anything. > > TIA, > Bryan > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:25:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA19026 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:25:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA16374 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:22:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA16370 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:22:16 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:20:25 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA03516; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:21:42 GMT Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:21:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Richard Jackson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 4.0/IMAP4 In-Reply-To: <5b07fv$jr0@portal.gmu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" If you are anxious for _IMAP_ 4 features rather than _Pine_ 4 you could consider picking up and compiling/installing the current Beta version of the IMAP 4 server. The IMAP server has always been available as a separate kit, in addition to that bundled into the Pine distribution. Do note, however, that the IMAP 4 kit is currently _beta_ software (although we are having little/no problem with it here). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 8 Jan 1997, Richard Jackson wrote: > We are anxious for IMAP4 that is planned to be in Pine 4.0. Are there any > estimates when Pine 4.0 will be available? > > Regards, > Richard Jackson > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:26:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA19953 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:26:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA16388 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:23:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA16384 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:23:08 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id KAA29485 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:21:47 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id MAA07845 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:23:49 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:23:47 +0300 (MSK) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list Subject: Re: features for I18N: TM style charset definition In-Reply-To: <5b0v0v$9qc@net161-61.student.yale.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 8 Jan 1997, Jungshik Shin wrote: [ the detailed description omited ] > > In composition session, allows users to interactively change charset > for body thus making switching between one lang/charset and another much > easier and faster than now. Of course,there should be a way to set > default body charset as is currenly the case, so that most users who > never send messages in more than one charset/lang. don't have to bother > with charset setting. Also, let users override default charset for > headers determined from the value of hdr charset field(item 2) in the > above list corresponding to the body charset specified in composition > session. Need for this arises because charset in header is not > necessarily charset used for body(i.e. one can send a message with > Korean body and German Subject) > > I wish this proposal would be carefully considered by Pine > development team and would make itself into next release of Pine. > And I wish to second this request. best wishes ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:36:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA20494 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:36:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA19816 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:32:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA19812 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:32:11 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:34/EUnetD-2.6.1.h) via EUnet id KAA17692; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:32:05 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id KAA25645; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:30:34 +0100 From: kompf@ife-le.de Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:52:01 +0100 (MET) To: "R. Johnson" cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: confused In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, R. Johnson wrote: -> -> Hi! I am having a problem with finding my old messages I do not know how -> I could have erased them because it is still stating that I have 80 -> messages but only four of them our showing up on the screen. I have tried -> the command "I" in the main menu but it still only pulled up those four -> messages. Can you please explain what I have done and if I can get my old -> messages back? -> -> Thank you, -> -> Rachel -> Probably you would find your old messages which you have read previously in the folder saved-messages. Rudolf ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:38:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA20559 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA16508 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:32:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA16504 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:32:14 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:34/EUnetD-2.6.1.h) via EUnet id KAA17701; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:32:08 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id KAA25648; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:30:36 +0100 From: kompf@ife-le.de Message-Id: Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:14:58 +0100 (MET) To: Michael Pollak cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Can one forward and copy mail to another account? In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 4 Jan 1997, Michael Pollak wrote: -> -> I understand how to use a .forward file. Is there any way to program a -> unix/pine account so that it will forward copies of the mail -- so that -> when I return, the mail will still be there in my account? I will be -> moving between accounts a lot for the next two months, and would like to -> have my New York mail available to me at both sites. (Yes, I know about -> telnetting, but it's frightfully slow between these two servers.) -> -> All suggestions appreciated, -> -> Michael -> -> __________________________________________________________________________ -> Michael Pollak................New York City..............mpollak@panix.com -> See the procmail-package for this and related tasks. Rudolf ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:46:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA19868 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:46:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA19955 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:42:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA19951 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 01:42:41 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:35:39 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA11037; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:37:03 GMT Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:37:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Kong Sing Yeong cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Reply (Re: Threading NG with pine...) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" For emulating a threaded news index most of us just type: $ ... Sort O ... by OrderedSubject This sorts articles in the index first by Subject text and then, if articles have equeal subjects, by Date. This gives a pretty good emulation of threading. (Apologies if you already knew about this!) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Kong Sing Yeong wrote: > Press > ; -- select > T -- Text > S -- Subject > > not very useful if you want fully threaded news reading though, but useful > enough if you are searching for an article with a particular subject > header or a particular sender, etc... > > > Sing Yeong > > A copy has been posted to the NG. > > > > On 12 Jan 1997, Aldy Hernandez wrote: > > > Kong Sing Yeong writes: > > > > > > > > > > > I just realised that you can actually thread the news articles using > > > select (;) ....never thought of that before :) > > > > > > > how do you mean? > > > > -- > > Aldy > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 02:08:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA20756 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 02:08:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA16845 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 02:04:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA16841 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 02:04:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjjEG-00038UC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 02:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tfth@j51.com (Dave Grossman) Subject: Downloading folders? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 08:01:08 GMT I guess this is more of a Eudora question, but since I'm using pine, and am open to suggestions other than Eudora, I've decided to post here... I have something like 25 folders in my pine directory on my UNIX account. I'd like to download the mail to my computer and open up like 8 megs on my UNIX account. So far, all I can get Eudora Pro to do is download INBOX contents. I want saved-messages, sent-mail, etc. downloaded to. I want it done w/ a mail dl'ing program becuase dl'ing it as text means it's impossible to ever really sort through on my hard drive. Thanks. -Dave -- Dave Grossman (I'm home)| "Life's short... Geneseo State University| Play pinball" deg97@geneseo.edu | "It has to warm up, tfth@j51.com | SO IT CAN KILL YOU!" -TAF ----------------------------------------------------------------- WWW: http://www.j51.com/~tfth -- pinball, music, and more. London Pinball Directory: http://www.mdx.ac.uk/~dg076 ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 02:18:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA20854 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 02:18:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA20344 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 02:14:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA20340 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 02:14:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjjKh-00038UC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 02:09 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: PCPine: memory crashes and Postponed Folder Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 11:25:59 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Thu, 9 Jan 1997, Gregor J Jones wrote: :>With PCPine I often have a memory problem, and PCPine crashes with the :>message something like "Problem detected: Pine exiting". This gets worse :>as messages get longer. This is a well known "feature" of the DOS port of Pine. :> :>My proposed solution: regularly postpone messages, especially as they get :>longer. :> :>But, I have just discovered that when PCPine crashes, it trashes my :>Postponed Folder. The folder disappears! I can undelete it, but it then :>contains 0 bytes. This is not what happens. I assume that you are doing ^O to postpone, then C to carry on composing? If so, then when it starts composing it deletes the copy in the postponed folder. :> :>Does anybody have a better solution? Use the OS/2 or Windows port. If you cant do that, postpone (^O), move to the postpone folder, and save (S) the postponed message to a different folder (or just a second copy in the postponed folder). Then if Pine crashes this copy is left untouched. :> :>PS: Would it be possible in future to compile PCPine so that it can use :>extended or expanded memory. I have more than 3.5 Mb free memory on my PC :>which PCPine doesn't appear to want to use. Well, it does use it in some circumstances, I believe. In my view, the DOS port(s) of Pine have become unusable, and U of W should either stop making them, or make them work (by using extended memory). ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs.cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 04:08:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA21955 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 04:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA18096 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 03:58:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA18092 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 03:58:01 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id MAA14782 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:56:39 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id OAA08317; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:58:53 +0300 (MSK) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:58:52 +0300 (MSK) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Pine mailing list , Mike Brudenell cc: Richard Jackson Subject: Re: Pine 4.0/IMAP4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > If you are anxious for _IMAP_ 4 features rather than _Pine_ 4 you could > consider picking up and compiling/installing the current Beta version of > the IMAP 4 server. The IMAP server has always been available as a > separate kit, in addition to that bundled into the Pine distribution. Do > note, however, that the IMAP 4 kit is currently _beta_ software (although > we are having little/no problem with it here). > BETA? AFAIK IMAPd 4 from UW is already released (for several month at least). Anyway, my copy doesn't say "beta software" any more. It is new, revised specification of IMAP 4, which is porbably in BETA state. Or do I miss something? greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 04:28:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA22048 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 04:28:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA18587 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 04:22:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA18583 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 04:22:32 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:20:39 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id MAA12824; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:22:04 GMT Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:21:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Andrej Borsenkow cc: Pine mailing list , Richard Jackson Subject: Re: Pine 4.0/IMAP4 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I'm sorry, I should have been clearer... When I first looked a few weeks back there were three relevant files in the /imap directory at ftp.cac.washington.edu... imap-4.tar.Z imap-4.1.BETA.tar.Z imap.tar.Z Pretty obviously the first was a final release on the IMAP 4 server, the second a Beta release of the 4.1 server, and the third was a symbolic link to the first. In the past the imap.tar.Z file pointed to the "released" software, and the "BETA" kit to the still day-by-day evolving version. The situation subsequently changed to (and still is): imap-4.1.BETA.tar.Z imap.tar.Z with the latter being a symbolic link to the former. This would tend to imply to me that the distribution kit of the final version of 4 is no longer being made available, and people are expected now to download the still-Beta version of 4.1. Presumably you obtained the final release of 4 whilst it was still available? -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Andrej Borsenkow wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > If you are anxious for _IMAP_ 4 features rather than _Pine_ 4 you could > > consider picking up and compiling/installing the current Beta version of > > the IMAP 4 server. The IMAP server has always been available as a > > separate kit, in addition to that bundled into the Pine distribution. Do > > note, however, that the IMAP 4 kit is currently _beta_ software (although > > we are having little/no problem with it here). > > > > BETA? AFAIK IMAPd 4 from UW is already released (for several month at > least). Anyway, my copy doesn't say "beta software" any more. It is new, > revised specification of IMAP 4, which is porbably in BETA state. > > Or do I miss something? > > greetings > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 > SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 > > NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 05:13:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA22432 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 05:13:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA19122 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 05:09:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA19118 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 05:09:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjm7M-00038TC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 05:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: info@mage.com Subject: cmsg cancel <5bbncl$3h0@nntp1.best.com> Control: cancel <5bbncl$3h0@nntp1.best.com> Message-ID: References: <5bbncl$3h0@nntp1.best.com> Date: 12 Jan 1997 22:08:21 GMT Spam-cancel: "Internet Fax Service" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:13:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA09718 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA23015 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:02:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.mpsi.net (shell.mpsi.net [207.238.102.24]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA23011 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:02:13 -0800 Received: from folger.mpsi.net (folger.mpsi.net [207.238.102.49]) by shell.mpsi.net (8.8.4/8.8.2) with SMTP id GAA12267 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 06:03:33 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970113080240.007ac5e0@mail.mpsi.net> X-Sender: alewis@mail.mpsi.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:02:41 -0600 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Andy Lewis Subject: subscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" subscribe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 07:39:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA23912 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 07:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA24198 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 07:32:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gatekeep.ti.com (news.ti.com [192.94.94.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA24194 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 07:32:34 -0800 Received: from asic.sc.ti.com ([156.117.183.136]) by gatekeep.ti.com (8.6.13) with ESMTP id JAA04634 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:32:32 -0600 Received: from scout (scout [156.117.180.142]) by asic.sc.ti.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA09634 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:33:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:33:30 -0600 (CST) From: Matt Page X-Sender: mpage@scout To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Built-in text in compose message Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Everytime that I compose a message, this message appears in the message text: Greetings New User! Your email address and a clever or insightful quote or saying should be placed in this file before posting news or sending mail. Everytime I have to delete it by line. Is there anyway that I can permanently delete this text? Please e-mail me at mpage@asic.sc.ti.com Thank you, Matt Page From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:25:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA25291 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:25:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA24963 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:18:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA24959 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:18:03 -0800 Received: (from scoile@localhost) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id LAA01538; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:13:09 -0500 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:13:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: Matt Page cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Built-in text in compose message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Matt Page wrote: > Everytime that I compose a message, this message appears in the message > text: Your systems administrator has created a signature placeholder file for you. Contact your systems administrator to find out how to remove or replace the placeholder. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:43:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA26094 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA22051 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:33:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA22043 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:33:32 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 13 Jan 97 17:33:18 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01257; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:17:02 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:17:02 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: Pine user list cc: Kalpana Reddy Kothapally Subject: Re: regarding mailing a wordperfect document. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, Robert J Wilshe wrote: >On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Kalpana Reddy Kothapally wrote: >> I would like to know as to how can I mail a word perfect document using >> pine so that I don't need to save the document in any format other than >> wordperfect 6.0 which I am using. I would like the receiver to receive >> it in the same format as I had documented it in wordperfect.(meaning I do >> not want any ASCII characters to replace the bullets or any other special >> symbols I use for the document). >Kalpana: >Simple enough. Just FTP the file into your home directory, which can be >viewed at any UNIX prompt by typing "cd ~/" then "pwd". Once the file is >there, you can attach it when you are composing your letter. When your >cursor is on the "Attchmnt:" field press cntl-T and this will take you to >your files in your home directory. Select the file you want to send, and >you're set. Make sure though that your recipient can process mime-encoded >mail, which is how pine will send it. > >(Robin, if you're there, help us out with UNIX ftp. I use a Win95 client, >and I know you're proficient with the UNIX ftp commands. :) Me? Sure:-) But why use ftp? Just send the file from home, using the method Robert described... Otherwise, open the ftp-client by typing ftp. You should be in your home dir. If not, got there, typing cd. Type put :/ ftp will copy the file to your university. There, use pine's attachment. But maybe a word should be lost on the attachment as such. Kalpana, attaching a file means that it stays a binary file, but is encoded by a tool on your system so that it can be sent by email. The addressee needs the counterpart of that tool to decode your message and then he has the same file again. Hope that helps any;-) Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:45:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA26120 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:45:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA22041 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:33:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA22026 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 08:33:22 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 13 Jan 97 17:33:15 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA01276; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:21:49 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 17:21:49 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: "R. Johnson" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: confused In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 12 Jan 1997, R. Johnson wrote: >Hi! I am having a problem with finding my old messages I do not know how >I could have erased them because it is still stating that I have 80 >messages but only four of them our showing up on the screen. I have tried >the command "I" in the main menu but it still only pulled up those four >messages. Can you please explain what I have done and if I can get my old >messages back? Unless you've toggled delete read messages or saved them somewhere else, you'll find them in a file called READ-MESSAGES in your folder list. You get there by typing L in the main window. They might have gone to another folder if you received them last year - that'd be something like READ-MESSAGES-dec-1996 or so. Read the faq, it'll tell you more. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:35:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA27558 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:35:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA23469 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:29:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bug1.fhcrc.org (bug1.fhcrc.org [140.107.10.110]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA23460 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:29:15 -0800 Received: from fhcrc.org ([140.107.115.26]) by bug1.fhcrc.org (8.8.4/8.8.2) with SMTP id JAA13412; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:29:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 09:29:33 +0000 (GMT) From: Douglas Nichols To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu cc: Brent Blumenstein Subject: Re: error message (fwd) Message-ID: X-Sender: dnichols@lynx.fhcrc.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Working with pine 3.92 for OS/2 running warp 3.0, with fixpak17. We recently had this discussion/problem could you comment? Thanks! ....snip... problem. The version of IMAP pine you are using is likely only designed for IMAP2(although IMAP4 is supposedly downwardly compliant with earlier versions)...snip... Brian On Fri, 10 Jan 1997, Douglas Nichols wrote: > > I've gone ahead and shut down the IMAP4 daemon and restarted IMAP2. ....snip > > The error I am getting is: > > > > > > > > [{lynx.fhcrc.org}inbox : error creating > > > > /var/spool/mail/dnichols.lock.852836784] > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Douglas Nichols dnichols@fhcrc.org > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center > National Wilms Tumor Study Group > Seattle, WA > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:05:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA28357 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:05:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA27591 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:00:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA27587 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:00:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjqep-00038TC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 09:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "James W. Barr" Subject: Need pre-compiled PINE for VMS Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:17:22 GMT Message-ID: <5bdqn3$l8$1@Nntp1.mcs.net> Hello! We are running several MicroVAX's, and I would like to use PINE, but the ONLY distribution I can find only contains the source. Do you know where I could get a version that is pre-compiled to work with VMS v5.5? I really need PINE, and I even have the source but we don't have a "C" compiler here. Any help would be GREATLY appreciated!! Thanks. -- -Jim ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- James W. Barr, N9ONL | e-mail: jbarr@mcs.com Buffalo Grove, IL, USA | Web site: http://www.mcs.net/~jbarr ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- US Robotics' Pilot Organizer info: http://www.usr.com GEOS Operating system info : http://www.geoworks.com GEOS IZL info: send e-mail to jferas@netaxs.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:06:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA28439 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:06:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA27693 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:02:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Owl.nstn.ca (owl.nstn.ca [137.186.128.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA27689 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 10:02:36 -0800 Received: from hen.NSTN.Ca (Hen.NSTN.Ca [137.186.128.18]) by Owl.nstn.ca (8.8.2/8.6.6) with ESMTP id OAA09656 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:02:28 -0400 (AST) Received: from katydid.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by hen.NSTN.Ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with UUCP id OAA03390 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:02:26 -0400 (AST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 11:56:06 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Nolan X-Sender: cnolan@katydid To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problem between 3.91 & 3.95 Message-ID: Organization: Katydid Information SystemS Inc X-WWW-Site: http://fox.nstn.ca/~gkerr MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I sent the below message on Friday, but it turns out I wasn't subscribed to the list yet. In case it didn't make it through because of that I'm posting it again. If it did I apoligize for the duplicate posting. Thx, ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 16:53:03 -0500 (EST) From: Chris Nolan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problem between 3.91 & 3.95 Afternoon, I installed pine3.95 on an SCO 3.2v4.0 system today and ran into a problem. Pine is not finding the incoming mail folder. If I run pine3.91 everything is fine. I check back on my system an SCO 3.2v5.0 system where I recently did this and as far as I can tell, everything is the same. Any ideas? Thx, ___________________________ ____________________ Chris Nolan cnolan@katydid.ca Katydid Information SystemS Tel: +1 613 257-1061 Keeping it Simple for You Fax: +1 613 257-8211 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:20:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA32328 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:20:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA28047 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:15:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA28043 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 12:15:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjsl8-00038UC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 12:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: Remote rsh timeout Date: 11 Jan 1997 21:03:57 GMT Message-ID: References: On Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:45:54 -0800, Charles Mott wrote: >Whenever I connect to my mail server, there is a long delay due to a >"remote rsh timeout", followed by the username prompt. How can I avoid >this delay? Add your username to the remote inbox definition: {host/user=userid}inbox However you'll still get the delay, as it will still want your password. I don't think there's a way to have it store your password anywhere; (wouldn't be a safe thing to do, anyway). -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi All this wheeling and dealing around, why, it isn't for money, it's for fun. Money's just the way we keep score. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:37:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA01118 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:36:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA03258 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:31:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA03254 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 13:30:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjtvy-00038UC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 13:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: print index to a file Date: 13 Jan 1997 14:51:15 -0500 Message-ID: I'd like to print the index of a pine folder to a file. In earlier versions of pine (e.g., 3.91) I had my printer set to: cat > print.tmp and could use this to print a message to a file named print.tmp. This does not work in 3.95. In 3.95 I tried just printing to: cat And it opened it up the viewer but i couldn't save it from there. I did a ^Z and went out to the shell and found the temp file with the info. I could just copy this to another file and I'd have it, but I'm wondering if there's a more direct way to do this? The above was about Unix pine (obviously, right?) but I'm also wondering about how to get a file that contains the index in Windows pine. Thanks much, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:40:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA02428 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:40:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA01623 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:35:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA01617 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 14:35:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjuxH-00038TC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 14:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: How do I add a custom header on _all_ outgoing messages? Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:16:10 +0000 Message-ID: References: <32D1613E.1941@dircon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 7 Jan 1997, Nancy McGough wrote: > Edward.M.Greshko@cdc.com (Edward M Greshko) writes: > > OPTION: Customized-Headers > > Be aware that you can only add a customized `From: ' header > if ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM was set during compile. For most purposes where one wants to reset a From, setting a Reply-To is sufficient. Of course there are a few cases where changing the From line might be desirable. -j -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:46:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA00926 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:46:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA06894 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:41:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA06884 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 15:41:52 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 07:41:01 +0800 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 07:41:01 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko To: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" cc: Matt Page , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Built-in text in compose message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Steve "Stevers!" Coile wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Matt Page wrote: > > Everytime that I compose a message, this message appears in the message > > text: > > Your systems administrator has created a signature placeholder file > for you. Contact your systems administrator to find out how to remove > or replace the placeholder. Or, since Matt is using pine3.95, you could simply go to the m(ain) menu and type s(etup) s(ignature) which will put you into edit mode on the signature created by the system admin. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:17:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA08467 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA10562 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:12:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from panther.Gsu.EDU (panther.Gsu.EDU [131.96.1.18]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA10558 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:12:24 -0800 Received: from localhost (mstjtw@localhost) by panther.Gsu.EDU (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA11763 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:12:23 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:12:22 -0500 (EST) From: "Joan T. Wynne" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm a user through Georgia State University in Atlanta Georgia. I haven't received any of my e-mails today. I have been able to send e-mails and I have learned via the telephone that they have been received; yet I haven't received any of the ones people has said they have sent me today. Can you help me out? Or tell me how to discover what the problem is? Thank you, Joan T. Wynne (mstjtw@panther.gsu.edu) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:37:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA08781 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:37:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA07709 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:33:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA07705 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:33:03 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 14 Jan 97 03:32:51 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id DAA00224; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 03:30:52 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 03:30:52 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: "Joan T. Wynne" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Joan T. Wynne wrote: >I'm a user through Georgia State University in Atlanta Georgia. I haven't >received any of my e-mails today. I have been able to send e-mails and I >have learned via the telephone that they have been received; yet I haven't >received any of the ones people has said they have sent me today. Can you >help me out? Or tell me how to discover what the problem is? Well, it certainly isn't a pine problem>;-> Talk to your sys-admin or ISP to check what's wrong. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:39:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA08802 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:39:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA07767 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:36:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA07763 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:36:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjyg2-00038TC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 18:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atstarr@nowhere.edu (Andrew Starr) Subject: Re: Vacation Program Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 22:51:35 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In article , toews@autobahn.mb.ca (Bruce Toews) wrote: > I know this doesn't have anything to do with Pine, but since the question > of a vacation program seems quite frequent on this list (I've seen it four > times in two weeks) can someone tell me where a Vacation program could be > FTPed from? Thanks. > > Bruce http://www.amherst.edu/~atstarr/computers/vacation.html I'll post a perl script soon to the URL above, but note: 1) You need a unix shell account. 2) Your ISP may already have vacation installed systemwide. See page above for info on how to use vacation if it is already installed. 3) If it is not already installed, perhaps e-mail your ISP and ask if they would consider installing it; the perl script is free! If they are concerned about infinite mail loops: a) it won't send autoreplies to various addresses such as "mailerdaemon" or "postmaster" as well as anything with a header of "Precedence: junk" or "Precedence: bulk" as all decent mailing lists should use. b) It defaults to sending only one autoreply per address per week, so even if it autoreplies to someone running an autoreply mechanism, the loop will be a loop of 1 or perhaps 2 if the other person's autoreply uses a slightly different return address. 4) You have to know what you are doing to install the script on your own account on the ISP, but I think it can be done. 5) I did not write the script; I don't do any support for any of this; just a "public service" Good luck! I'll try to upload the script by Saturday. (1/11/97) -Andrew -- Andrew Starr atstarr at amherst.edu http://www.amherst.edu/~atstarr/eudora (for Eudora utils. and info) I have no connection to Qualcomm other than being a happy customer! If this post/email is answering a help request, please try to post followup questions, esp. new questions, to the newsgroup. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:56:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA09077 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:56:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA11241 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:53:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from akashi.com (akashi.com [205.238.10.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA11237 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:53:22 -0800 Received: from localhost (akashi@localhost) by akashi.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id SAA03556 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:57:31 -0800 Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 18:57:30 -0800 (PST) From: Toshiyuki Akashi To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: sending-filter Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I would like to put all of my outgoing messages through a filter called nkf to change an encoding type from EUC to JIS. How can set up the Sending-filter in the config menu? I put "nkf" in there but it wouldn't work. Thanks. -- toshi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:15:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA09244 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:15:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA11493 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:11:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA11487 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:11:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjzFv-00038TC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 19:09 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmiles@borabora.bbn.com (Robert Miles) Subject: Re: Zero byte "pinercXXXXXX" files? Date: 6 Jan 1997 17:10:22 -0500 Message-ID: <5art8e$epq@borabora.bbn.com> References: <5ajl2j$q1l@arachnid.Gsu.EDU> In article <5ajl2j$q1l@arachnid.Gsu.EDU>, Andrew A. Kincaid wrote: >Does anyone know why Pine 3.95 (in Unix) would create these "pinerc021178" >files out in user's home directories? -- Oh, and they are 0 bytes big. >Does anyone know what these are, and how to stop them from being created? The only time I've seen such a file created was when the disk filled up today, and the file size was 8192 bytes. The contents looked like pine was creating a new version of .pinerc using a temporary file name. Therefore, if you stop the disk from filling up, you'll probably stop pine from leaving these files behind when it exits, although it may still create them and immediately rename them to .pinerc. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:22:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA09435 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:22:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA08510 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:20:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from diablo.intergate.bc.ca (diablo.intergate.bc.ca [205.206.192.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA08503 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:19:58 -0800 Received: from jcboyer.Intergate (pm14s11.intergate.bc.ca [207.34.180.176]) by diablo.intergate.bc.ca (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA22795 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:23:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199701140423.UAA22795@diablo.intergate.bc.ca> From: "Joan Boyer" To: Subject: Re: POP client??? Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:19:38 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:26:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA09492 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:26:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA08571 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:23:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from diablo.intergate.bc.ca (diablo.intergate.bc.ca [205.206.192.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA08567 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:23:08 -0800 Received: from jcboyer.Intergate (pm14s11.intergate.bc.ca [207.34.180.176]) by diablo.intergate.bc.ca (8.8.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id UAA23279 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:26:12 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199701140426.UAA23279@diablo.intergate.bc.ca> From: "Joan Boyer" To: Subject: Re: Using Pine as a POP Client Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:22:52 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:29:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA09523 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:29:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA08617 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:25:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ciistr1.ist.utl.pt (ciistr1.ist.utl.pt [193.136.128.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA08610 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:25:42 -0800 Received: from alfa.ist.utl.pt by ciistr1.ist.utl.pt (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/18Jul96-0728PM) id AA25741; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 03:26:16 GMT Received: by alfa.ist.utl.pt (5.65v3.2/1.1.10.5/25Nov96-1119AM) id AA03325; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 03:25:31 GMT Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 03:25:31 +0000 (GMT) From: STRYKER To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: International student - PORTUGAL Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE =09Lisbon, January 13th of 1997 =09Dear Sir or Madame, =09My name is Hugo Rui Ferrao da Trindade Fonseca. I am 19 years old=20 and was born on May 4th of 1977. I have a twin brother called Daniel Diogo= =20 Fonseca. I am living in Lisbon which is the capital of Portugal. =09I was an Exchange Student, in the state of Maine, in the United=20 States of America during the academic year of 1995/96. I liked the=20 experience a lot. I was always a low student in High School while in=20 Portugal. When i went to the United States of America I found out that I=20 could be a better student if I would have a different educational system. =09The kind of educational system that we have in Portugal at this=20 moment doesn't seem to work with people like me that can not memorise a=20 whole book to do exams, like gifted people do. I liked the United States=20 of America educational system because you can do experiments with things=20 you learn. I was a C- student here in Portugal. However in the United=20 States of America I was a B/B+ student and in some subjects i was even an= =20 A student, that really motivated me very strongly. =09By this E-Mail I would like to ask if you would help me to get a=20 College or a University in the United States of America so that i would=20 be able to get a proper Higher Education. If you would know of any=20 Scholarship, Grant or Help that would be proper for my case, please=20 inform me. =09On the next pages i shall tell about some of my experiencies in=20 life, that might help you to know me enough and consequently help me to=20 obtain what i am looking for. With the best regards, Hugo Rui Fonseca Hugo Rui Fonseca=09=09=09Phone # ( House ) Rua Infantaria 16=09=09=09351-1-3831379 N=A752 - 1=A7 Dto=09=09=09=09Phone # ( Work ) 1350 Lisbon=09=09=09=09351-1-3141505 PORTUGAL=09=09=09=09Fax # L42344@alfa.ist.utl.pt=09=09=09351-1-3555393 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Name : Hugo Rui Ferrao da Trindade Fonseca Born : May 4th of 1977, in Lisbon - PORTUGAL Address : Rua Infantaria 16=09=09Phone # =09 N=A752 - 1=A7 Dto=09=09351-1-3831379 =09 1350 Lisbon=09=09=09Fax # =09 PORTUGAL=09=09=09351-1-3555393 E-Mail : L42344@alfa.ist.utl.pt Country of citizenship : Portugal Native language : Portuguese Heritage : Portuguese Disabilities : None Current Job : Work as a volunteer in a non-profit organisation Work : Entre Culturas - Associassao Portuguesa de Alternativas Culturais Work address : Rua Gomes Freire=09Phone # =09=09N=A7136 - 1=A7Dto=09=09351-1-3141505 =09=091150 Lisbon=09=09Fax # =09=09PORTUGAL=09=09351-1-3555393 Work E-Mail : entre.culturas@mail.telepac.pt Volunteer Works : =09* Clerk in a Snack Bar ( PORTUGAL ) =09* Commercial translator between Portuguese groups and German=20 =09=09groups - Language used "English" ( PORTUGAL ) =09* Scouts - Cleaning Forest Helper in Camping Camps ( PORTUGAL ) =09* High School - Theatre producer helper ( PORTUGAL ) =09* Peer Counsellor for Exchange Students ( PORTUGAL ) =09* Local Representative for Exchange Students ( PORTUGAL ) =09* Monitor in a program for Portuguese descendants ( PORTUGAL ) =09* High School kitchen helper ( USA ) =09* Blood Drive - High School Student Council helper ( USA ) =09* Key Club International - Exchange Student meeting helper ( USA ) =09* High School Library helper ( USA ) =09* Snack Shack - Student Council helper ( USA ) =09* International information divulgence for High Schools Classes=20 =09=09and Teachers ( USA ) =09* High School level 2 Spanish class - Student teacher ( USA ) =09* Editor-in-Chief of High School Newspaper ( USA ) =09* Monitor helper - European exchange between Portugal and Sweden=20 =09=09( Portugal) =09* Advertisement of a non-profit organisation Entre Culturas -=20 =09=09APAC's programs ( Portugal ) =09* Monitor for selection of exchange students to be ( Portugal ) =09* Vogal from the Main Administration Board in a non-profit=20 =09=09organisation ( Portugal ) High Schools attended : =09* Colegio Salesiano =09=09Lisbon - Portugal =09* Penquis Valley High School =09=09Milo - Maine - USA =09* Lee Academy =09=09Lee - Maine - USA Highest Diploma : High School Graduation from Lee Academy in June 1st 1996 Senior GPA : 87,3% - 3.492 Diplomas : =09* Diploma for Computers Programmers =09=09( Dbase programming ) =09* Diploma for Special Award =09=09( Excellence in Algebra 2 ) =09* Diploma for Outstanding Student =09=09( Editor-in-Chief - Journalism ) =09* Diploma de Merito ( Merit ) =09=09( Excellency in Spanish 3 ) =09* Certificate from Drama Club =09=09( For being an active member ) =09* Certificate from ASSE =09=09( For being an Exchange Student ) =09* Certificate from Entre Culturas - APAC =09=09( For Being a good Portuguese Ambassador ) Years of English language study : 9 years in school, 10 years total Majors to be : Foreign Languages or Psychology Other fields of study : Computers, cultural traditions, teaching and biolog= y Recommendation Letters : =09* Entre Culturas-APAC - President =09* Colegio Salesiano - Class Advisor =09* Penquis Valley HS - Counsellor =09* Lee Academy HS - Counsellor =09* Lee Academy HS - Spanish Teacher =09* Lee Academy HS - American History Teacher Favourite Sports : Skiing and swimming Favourite Hobbies : Work with exchange students, be involved in the=20 =09=09=09community and talk with friends all over the=20 =09=09=09world through the telnet talkers. Favourite house arrangements : Host Families and dorms OBJECTIVES IN LIFE : =09* To serve the community in what i can =09* To raise a good enviroment to raise a future family =09* To have a Higher Education that i can help others with =09* Learn how to be a better person ( USA - United States of America ) PS. If you need more information in orther to help you to know me better=20 =09just email me or fax me. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:39:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA06261 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA11948 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:35:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from stanton-1-1.quick.net ([205.153.188.102]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA11944 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:35:50 -0800 Received: from localhost (soil@localhost) by stanton-1-1.quick.net (8.8.4/8.8.3) with SMTP id TAA04466 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:35:44 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: stanton-1-1.quick.net: soil owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:35:44 -0800 (PST) From: Josh Gilliam Reply-To: Josh Gilliam To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Message-ID capitalization formating Message-ID: Irc: soil MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Although I have 'Message-Id' in viewer-hdrs, it is still displayed as 'Message-ID' which seems wrong since other headers format to the capitalization you specify. Message-ID: <199701140319.TAA09276@groupfs.cac.washington.edu> Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:19:49 -0800 (PST) From: Majordomo@cac.washington.edu To: soil@quick.net Subject: Majordomo results from .pinerc: # When viewing messages, include this list of headers viewer-hdrs=Message-Id:, Date:, From:, X-Mailer:, To:, In-Reply-To:, References:, Reply-To:, Followup-To:, Cc:, Bcc:, Newsgroups:, Subject:, Resent-Message-Id:, Resent-Date:, Resent-From:, Resent-To:, Resent-Reply-To:, Resent-Cc:, Resent-Bcc:, Resent-Subject: Josh Gilliam -- soil@quick.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:41:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA19993 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:41:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA11982 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:38:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA11975 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:37:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vjzcj-00038VC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 19:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mjordan@i386.jordan.org (Mark J. Jordan) Subject: Re: DOS Date: 13 Jan 1997 20:52:19 -0500 Message-ID: <5beosk$dlv@i386.jordan.org> References: <32D7F4D2.1113@earthlink.com> In <32D7F4D2.1113@earthlink.com>, yfrankiii@earthlink.com (Frank Yegge) wrote: > My daughter needs DOS based email. She is in college in Missouri > and we (her parents) live in California. We need to email each other. I > have Earthlink email. > My daughter in Missouri has: > 1. A laptop computer with: 60 meg hard drive with 24 megs unused. > 630 basic memory > 1024 RAM > DOS 6.0 > The question: Do you have an email program (software) that she can use > to communicate with us here in California by email? Please send > information. > Help and thank you, > Frank Yegge Frank, Most times colleges and universities will have there own email systems for their campus, and also have the capability to send email to the Internet using the same facilities. She should inquire if she will be receiving an email account, and see if she can keep the same one for her duration at the school. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Mark J. Jordan Programmer/Analyst ~~~ Give the gift of life... Michigan Community Blood Centers GIVE BLOOD! ~~~ mjordan@mail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:44:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA09634 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:44:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA12015 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:40:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA12011 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:40:35 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:39:49 +0800 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:34:21 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Toshiyuki Akashi cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: sending-filter In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Toshiyuki Akashi wrote: > I would like to put all of my outgoing messages through a filter called > nkf to change an encoding type from EUC to JIS. How can set up the > Sending-filter in the config menu? I put "nkf" in there but it wouldn't > work. Did you following this note in the help: For security reasons, the full path of the filter program must be specified. ?? Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:00:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA09588 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:00:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA12250 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:57:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA12245 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 19:56:57 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:56:11 +0800 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:50:43 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Josh Gilliam cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Message-ID capitalization formating In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Josh Gilliam wrote: > Although I have 'Message-Id' in viewer-hdrs, it is still displayed as > 'Message-ID' which seems wrong since other headers format to the > capitalization you specify. headers are case-insensitive. Therefore even MeSsAgE-iD: is considered OK. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:59:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA10577 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:59:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA13248 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:54:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from stanton-1-1.quick.net (stanton-1-2.quick.net [205.153.188.102]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA13244 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:54:00 -0800 Received: from localhost (soil@localhost) by stanton-1-1.quick.net (8.8.4/8.8.3) with SMTP id UAA04718; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:53:45 -0800 (PST) X-Authentication-Warning: stanton-1-1.quick.net: soil owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:53:45 -0800 (PST) From: Josh Gilliam Reply-To: Josh Gilliam To: Ed Greshko cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Message-ID capitalization formating In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Irc: soil MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: > On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Josh Gilliam wrote: > > > Although I have 'Message-Id' in viewer-hdrs, it is still displayed as > > 'Message-ID' which seems wrong since other headers format to the > > capitalization you specify. > > headers are case-insensitive. Therefore even MeSsAgE-iD: is > considered OK. I am aware of this, but what I am saying is that Pine won't format the 'Message-ID' header to a capitalization of my choosing like it will with other headers. If I place 'x-MaIlEr' in viewer-hdrs it will display as 'x-MaIlEr' even if it was received as 'X-Mailer' or 'X-mailer'. Josh Gilliam -- soil@quick.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:05:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA10680 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:05:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA13349 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:01:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA13345 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:01:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vk0yK-00038UC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 20:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mathelmr@math.nus.sg (Helmer Aslaksen) Subject: Delete empty folders? Date: 10 Jan 1997 03:22:49 GMT Message-ID: <5b4cm9$r6b@nuscc.nus.sg> I've just switched from elm to pine, and I have some problems. Is there some way to make pine automatically delete a folder when I have deleted all the messages in it? -- Helmer ASLAKSEN Department of Mathematics National University of Singapore Singapore 119260 Republic of Singapore aslaksen@math.nus.sg http://www.math.nus.sg/aslaksen/ phone: +65 772-2746 fax: +65 779-5452 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:32:44 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA10979 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:32:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA10772 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:28:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA10768 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:28:06 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:27:19 +0800 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:21:52 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Josh Gilliam cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Message-ID capitalization formating In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Josh Gilliam wrote: > I am aware of this, but what I am saying is that Pine won't format > the 'Message-ID' header to a capitalization of my choosing like it will > with other headers. If I place 'x-MaIlEr' in viewer-hdrs it will display > as 'x-MaIlEr' even if it was received as 'X-Mailer' or 'X-mailer'. Sounds like a cosmetic nit which doesn't have much to do with the functionality of pine. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:40:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA11079 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:40:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA10874 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:36:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA10870 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:36:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vk1TX-00038TC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 21:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dozer@netwizards.net Subject: cmsg cancel <5b503u$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Control: cancel <5b503u$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Message-ID: References: <5b503u$kmr@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 00:54:40 Spam-cancel: "would you be my friend?" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:51:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA11235 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:51:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA14125 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:46:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA14116 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 21:46:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vk1hB-00038TC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 21:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@euler.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Pico and nn: cutting off long lines? Date: 6 Jan 1997 22:56:31 GMT Message-ID: References: <5artas$85k@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz): > I'm using Pico 2.9 (because [...] it does automatic line wrapping) [*] as my > default editor for nn 6.5.1. Now when I'm writing an article which contains > a header line longer than 255 characters [...] this line gets cut off, so > only the first 255 characters are imported into the editor. Yup, that's one of PICO's MISfeatures. See my page http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pico/ > Such a situation can occur for the References: line when doing a followup to > a fairly long thread. Needless to say it's not nice to have that line being > chopped off. What can I do about it short of using a different editor? There's nothing you can do about that. Line length is limited with PICO. The only solutions are either use another editor (emacs, vi, you name it) or using a newsreader that does not have header editing (bah!). > Maybe recompiling pine? Is there any version of pine > which does not have a fixed maximum of characters per line? Pine does not have a built-in editor - it uses pico. Changing PINE will have no effect - it's the editor you must change! > What do the RFCs say about the maximum length a Usenet news > or email header line is supposed to have? Nothing (I think). => Any length should be allowed. My suggestion is to trash PICO and use a good[tm] editor - VIM, eg: [*] VIM does text wrapping - simple "set tw=79" in your vimrc. My vimrc should get you started fast: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/vim/vimrc Sven -- Sven Guckes@math.fu-berlin.de - VIM ("Vi IMproved") | Available for Amiga, VIM Latest version : VIM 4.5 - released on 961008 | Atari, DOS, Macintosh, VIM Pages: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/vim/ | OS/2, UNIX, VAX, VMS, VIM FAQ: http://www.grafnetix.com/~laurent/vim | Windows NT, Windows 95. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:06:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA11353 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:06:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA11253 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:01:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA11249 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:01:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vk1vE-00038UC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 22:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jungshik Shin Subject: Re: Remote Inbox login. Date: 09 Jan 1997 16:12:50 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5ad3k1$uqo@animal.blarg.net> <72rak5gcf8.fsf@hcs.harvard.edu> krinsky@hcs.harvard.edu (David Krinsky) writes: > > David Krinsky writes: > > > However, many IMAP servers, including the U. Washington one, allow imap > > logins to be authenticated using rsh. If /etc/imapd is a symlink to the > > My apologies. This should read "/etc/rimapd". Is there anyway to authenticate imap login using ssh instead of rsh? My school computer doesn't allow rsh although it allows 'ssh'(secure shell). I tried using port remapping(? or is it redirection?) feature of ssh, but it doesn't work. TIA for any help. Jungshik Shin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:57:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA11982 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:57:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA15025 for pine-info-out; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:46:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA15021 for ; Mon, 13 Jan 1997 22:46:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vk2bp-00038TC; Mon, 13 Jan 97 22:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marco De la Cruz Subject: Re: Best editors Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 02:25:39 GMT References: <32D26BAF.1E28@intermicro.com> I made a little comparison between a few text editors I had around. It's kind of old, but it may be of use. I'm not a professional reviewer or anything, but I like fiddling with software, and I had some time on my hands... There are notable exceptions, like vi (which I didn't have handy, and which I never could really learn), and Emacs (which can probably do _anything_, the tradeoff being its large footprint and steep learning curve). I apologize if there are any mistakes!!! BTW, I use NotGNU. Any bias is solely my subconscious' fault (^-^). ----------------------------------------------------- The editors: PFE: http://www.lancs.ac.uk/people/cpaap/pfe/ notGNU: ftp.simtel.net under /pub/simtelnet/win95/editor/w9not19.zip TextPad: http://www.textpad.com/ UltraEdit: http://www.idmcomp.com/ Editeur: http://www.winsite.com/info/pc/winnt/txtutil/ed22fn.zip GWD: http://www.winsite.com/info/pc/win95/txtutil/gte32r15.zip BTW, Nancy, vim is also at simtel, right above notGNU (^-^) All tested under NT 3.51 *** The text editors *** PFE notGNU TextPad Editeur UltraEdit GWD *** Characteristics *** Version 0.06.002 1.9 2.1 2.2 4.10a 1.2 Size[kB] 1080 525 1700[a] 425[a] 1150 1270 [a] Does not include spell checker Customizable key mapping Yes Yes No No No Yes Free Yes Yes No[a] No[b] No[c] No[d] [a] US$27-35 [b] FF120 [c] US$30 [d] US$20 PFE notGNU TextPad Editeur UltraEdit GWD *** Buffer handling *** Can load a 6Mb file Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Can handle long filenames Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Can handle UNIX/DOS conversions Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Binary editor No No No[a] No Yes No [a] Has an hex viewer Multiple windows Yes No[a] Yes Yes Yes Yes (#) (>2) (>2) (>2) (>2) (>2) [a] Can split a window to edit multiple files (>2) Synchronized editing Yes Yes Yes No Yes No (# of views) (>2) (>2) (2) (2) C mode Yes No[a] Yes No No[b] No[b] [a] "cmode" shows matching parenthesis [b] Syntax highlighting can be used to display special words in different colours Show linenumbers Yes No[a] No[a] No[a] No[a] No[a] [a] Shows cursor position in status bar PFE notGNU TextPad Editeur UltraEdit GWD *** Editing *** Undo Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes (#) (>2) (>2) (>2) (>2) (>2) (>2) Redo No No Yes Yes Yes Yes (#) (>2) (>2) (>2) (>2) Search/ replace Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes (regular expressions) (No) (Yes) (Yes) (No)[a] Yes Yes [a] Can search for some special characters Rectangle (block/column) functions No Yes Yes Yes[a] Yes Yes [a] Can also select entire columns at once Line wrap Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Drag'n'drop text Yes No Yes No No No Automatic line indentation Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Bracket matching Yes Yes Yes No Yes Yes Sorting No Yes[a] Yes Yes Yes Yes [a] Ascending only Prints files Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Bookmarks No Yes Yes No Yes Yes Templates Yes No No No Yes No Macros Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes (#) (1) (>2) (>2) (?) (>2) (>2) Can be saved? No Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Word count ? Yes Yes ? No Yes (In region) (Yes) (No) (No) (No) PFE notGNU TextPad Editeur UltraEdit GWD *** File handling *** Built in file manager No[a] Yes Yes No[b] No[c] No[b] [a] Can call file manager from menu [b] "Tools" option can call file manager [c] Can call file manager from "Run Windows Program..." Compare files No No Yes No No No Search for text in unopened files No No[a] Yes No Yes Yes [a] Can call egrep PFE notGNU TextPad Editeur UltraEdit GWD *** Shell interaction *** Can call compiler Yes Yes Yes No? Yes Yes Can launch Dos/Windows programs Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes PFE notGNU TextPad Editeur UltraEdit GWD *** Other *** Spell checker No No Yes Yes[a] Yes No[b] [a] Only 16-bit version [b] Has an autocorrect feature ? = I'm not sure... -- _________________________________ marco@chinook.physics.utoronto.ca Gunnm: Broken Angel http://128.100.80.13/marco/alita.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:33:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA12651 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:33:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA13075 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:27:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA13071 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 00:27:00 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vk48w-00038TC; Tue, 14 Jan 97 00:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: converting between Unix and Windows Pine folders Date: 13 Jan 1997 23:44:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: David L Miller writes: >Depending on which formats you are converting, Pine itself should be >able to do the conversion. On DOS/Windows, if you are going from >bezerk to MTX format, you could set up a special PINERC file with an >initial-keystrokes list that selects all messages in a folder and >copies them to a new folder. You might wrap that in a BAT file that >changes filenames, etc... First, I got mbxcvt to compile thanks to David's instructions and some help from Audin at Halcyon. mbxcvt does what I need (yay!) and I wanted to share some things I've learned about converting. Here are three ways to do the conversion: 1) Use mbxcvt on the Unix system to convert the folder before downloading. 2) Use Windows Pine to open the Unix folder (via IMAP) and then select all and apply save (;aas) and save to a folder on your desktop machine. DISADVANTAGE: I've had a lot of IMAP connections break in the midst of this type of download and then I only get part of the folder downloaded. 3) Download the Unix folder and then open it up in Windows Pine. It will be READONLY which you can fix by selecting all and saving to another folder (;aas again). BIG DISADVANTAGE: You lose status info, e.g., which messages you've answered. This is unacceptable to me. QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS METHOD: Is there any way to preserve the status info? Does the CRLF conversion happen when you do the ;aas thing? Why does it show up as READONLY any way?? QUESTIONS: Are there other methods for converting between Unix and Windows folders? Is there an mbxcvt that will work on DOS/Windows - that would be great! Is there some documentation about mbxcvt, e.g., one of my accounts is on a VMS system and it has really weird looking folders. So far the only way I can get my folders over there is using method 1. Thanks for any info about all this, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:39:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA13233 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA13957 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:35:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA13918 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:34:59 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:29:39 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA05070; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:31:00 GMT Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:31:00 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jungshik Shin cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Remote Inbox login. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" I'm not familiar with how ssh works, but I presume it can be used in a manner similar to rsh? That is, you can give a command of the form: ssh hostname command If this is so then you can probably get a pre-authenticated session to start by changing the C-client library used by Pine and the imapd. Specifically, 1. Determine the full path name of the ssh command (eg, "which ssh" should tell you) 2. Edit the RSHPATH variable for your platform in the Makefile in the c-client source code directory to contain the full path name of your ssh program instead of that of rsh. 3. Recompile, install the executables and test. Disclaimer: it *might* work; I'm not familiar with ssh or the mechanism imapd uses to determine the username validated by the rshd and hence whether this will also work with the ssh daemon. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 9 Jan 1997, Jungshik Shin wrote: > krinsky@hcs.harvard.edu (David Krinsky) writes: > > > > > David Krinsky writes: > > > > > However, many IMAP servers, including the U. Washington one, allow imap > > > logins to be authenticated using rsh. If /etc/imapd is a symlink to the > > > > My apologies. This should read "/etc/rimapd". > > Is there anyway to authenticate imap login using ssh instead of > rsh? My school computer doesn't allow rsh although it > allows 'ssh'(secure shell). I tried using port remapping(? > or is it redirection?) feature of ssh, but it doesn't work. > TIA for any help. > > > Jungshik Shin > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:46:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA13008 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:46:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA17377 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:42:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA17373 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:42:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vk5Mu-00038TC; Tue, 14 Jan 97 01:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fabrizio Talucci Subject: Re: Unix POP client? Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 14:09:32 -0800 Message-ID: <32D1781C.C@cs.ucla.edu> References: <5a70bt$7sv@news.cic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Robin S. Socha wrote: > > My pop account needs my username and my password as additional parameters. Is > that possible, too? Robin, when you'll install PINE with the POP3 feature everytime PINE starts it will ask you for the username (You can preload a default one) and a password (You can't). This is a little bit boring. I get access to my Unix server by phone with a MAC. Connecting in VT100 i have instructed my MAC VT 100 teminal emulation program to put username and password automatically. (See the New : PINE vs EUDORA) Another possibility, but i have not tried yet, is to exploit the possibility of PINE to record and play when it starts, a sequence of keystrokes. -- ___ __ _ __ __ __ /_ /_| /_> /_/ / / / / / E-mail: talucci@cs.ucla.edu / / | /_> / | / /_ / /_/ AX25:IK7NCU@IK7MXD.PUG.ITA.EU ___ __ __ __ / /_| / / / / ' / ' / Addr: UCLA-CSD Boelter Hall 3771 / / | /_ /_/ /_/ /_/ / Tel:(310) Off. 2068589 Home 4450647 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:50:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA13310 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:50:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA17418 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:46:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA17414 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 01:46:09 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:44:24 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA12231; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:45:48 GMT Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:45:47 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Charles Mott cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Remote rsh timeout In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On 11 Jan 1997, Sylvain Robitaille wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:45:54 -0800, Charles Mott wrote: > >Whenever I connect to my mail server, there is a long delay due to a > >"remote rsh timeout", followed by the username prompt. How can I avoid > >this delay? > > Add your username to the remote inbox definition: > > {host/user=userid}inbox Not quite: the minimal solution to avoid the long delay due to the "remote rsh timeout" is to add the port number to the end of the hostname: {host.site.domain:143}inbox This will then prompt you to supply your username and password as usual, but without the long delay. This is because by supplying a port number you are telling Pine (actually the underlying C-client library) to bypass the rsh mechanism. > However you'll still get the delay, as it will still want your password. I > don't think there's a way to have it store your password anywhere; > (wouldn't be a safe thing to do, anyway). If you want to avoid having to enter your username and password... ...if you are using PC-Pine then there is an option to save these. However be warned that you should only do this if your machine is secure, otherwise there may be a chance others can make use of the information to your detriment. ...if you are using the UNIX version of Pine then you should ask your Systems Administrator to consider setting up the pre-authenticated IMAP server. The minimal work they need to perform is simply to create a symbolic link so that the file /etc/rimapd points to the real imapd executable. Each person wanting to make use of the facility will then need to set up a ".rhosts" file to allow their imap server to accept rsh connections from the machines they normally use. (Or else the SysAdmin could set up a systemwide hosts.equiv file on the imap server computer.) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 02:19:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA13492 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 02:19:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA14404 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 02:15:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (mail.sni.de [192.109.2.33]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA14400 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 02:15:51 -0800 Received: (from nerv@localhost) by nixpbe.pdb.sni.de (8.6.12/8.6.12) id LAA20715 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:14:29 +0100 Received: from itsrm1.mow.sni.de (itsrm1 [149.202.148.210]) by itsmx1.mow.sni.de (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA15108; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:16:28 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:16:26 +0300 (MSK) From: Andrej Borsenkow X-Sender: bor@itsrm1.mow.sni.de Reply-To: borsenkow.msk@sni.de To: Mike Brudenell cc: Jungshik Shin , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Remote Inbox login. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > I'm not familiar with how ssh works, but I presume it can be used in a > manner similar to rsh? That is, you can give a command of the form: > > ssh hostname command > > If this is so then you can probably get a pre-authenticated session to > start by changing the C-client library used by Pine and the imapd. > > Specifically, > > 1. Determine the full path name of the ssh command (eg, "which ssh" > should tell you) > > 2. Edit the RSHPATH variable for your platform in the Makefile in the > c-client source code directory to contain the full path name of your > ssh program instead of that of rsh> > 3. Recompile, install the executables and test. > > Disclaimer: it *might* work; I'm not familiar with ssh or the mechanism > imapd uses to determine the username validated by the rshd and hence > whether this will also work with the ssh daemon. > All above is correct. Actually usual ssh installations make rsh and rlogin just links to ssh. There is one problem with ssh (the question was posted once on this list as well). SSH is normally using authentication method which is much like PGP's. The user on remote host has database with "public keys". When I use ssh to login/execute a command, I am asked about the "passfrase"; it is then used to get "private key" from "key ring" (they are tagged with user/host). I use '"' because (although very much like) all these are _not_ the same as in PGP. It means, when Pine starts ssh to execute /etc/rimapd, ssh will need to ask me passfrase. What happens in this case? At least the display will be mangled. It is possible to use "secrity server" - it is a program which is started at login, asks me about passfrase, keeps it and then passes it on to ssh over open file descriptor/named pipe/temporary file - what a given OS supports. Also someone reported, that ssh takes significant time to verify request, so Pine times out. I think, it happens, when sshd (ssh server) is started from inetd by request - it computes session key on every invocation, and it can take some time. So, the main problem of ssh without security server is how to ask user about passfrase. greetings ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Andrej Borsenkow Fax: +7 (095) 252 01 05 SNI ITS Moscow Tel: +7 (095) 252 13 88 NERV: borsenkow.msk E-Mail: borsenkow.msk@sni.de ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 02:50:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA13993 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 02:50:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA18002 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 02:44:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from akson.sgh.waw.pl (akson.sgh.waw.pl [148.81.202.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA17992 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 02:43:51 -0800 Received: from localhost (pcherui@localhost) by akson.sgh.waw.pl (8.8.4/8.8.3) with SMTP id LAA23827 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:43:43 +0100 (MET) X-Authentication-Warning: akson.sgh.waw.pl: pcherui owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:43:42 +0100 (MET) From: Peter Cheruiyou X-Sender: pcherui@akson To: peter kimutai arap cheruiyot Subject: RE:Hello MR MAN (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 12:39:05 +0100 (MET) From: Peter Cheruiyou To: krugutt@lsuvm.sncc.lsu.edu Subject: RE:Hello MR MAN Hello Mr Rugut, Happy and Successful New Year, First let me know whether you received my letter. Other messages later.Especially about the limping economy. By the way did you read the article "a limping economy"?. If not then I urge you to do it. Peter. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 05:07:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA14511 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 05:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA16280 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 05:03:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gmu.edu (portal.gmu.edu [129.174.1.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA16273; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 05:03:42 -0800 Received: by gmu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.3.9/GMUv7) id AA30074; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:03:41 -0500 Message-Id: <9701141303.AA30074@gmu.edu> Subject: Re: Pine 4.0/IMAP4 To: gray@cac.washington.edu (Terry Gray) Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:03:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Richard L Jackson Jr" Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: from "Terry Gray" at Jan 11, 97 07:43:36 am Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA Reply-To: Richard L Jackson Jr Whois: RLJ11 (NIC/DARPA Registry) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terry Gray writes: > > > > On 8 Jan 1997, Richard Jackson wrote: > > > We are anxious for IMAP4 that is planned to be in Pine 4.0. Are there any > > estimates when Pine 4.0 will be available? > > Richard, > Exactly *which* IMAP4 features are you anxious for? > > (The only user-visible one planned for Pine 4.00 is folder hierarchy > support.) > > -teg > > Thank you for the reply. We need IMAP4 for Netscape Communicator 4.0 preview 1. Communicator fails with IMAP2bis. Currently, we are not sure exactly which feature it uses but it claims it needs IMAP4. -- Regards, Richard Jackson George Mason University Computer Systems Senior Engineer UCIS / ISO Computer Systems Engineering From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 07:43:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA16242 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 07:43:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA18448 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 07:40:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from elmo.nmc.edu (elmo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.208]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA18444 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 07:40:01 -0800 Received: from localhost by elmo.nmc.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/17Jul95-0335PM) id AA21208; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 10:43:36 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 10:43:36 -0500 (EST) From: Karen Johnson To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I am having problems sending email to Canada Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, My name is Karen Johnson. My email address is johnsok@elmo.nmc.edu I have been having trouble emailing my boyfriend in montreal for 3 days now. I never had problems sending him things before, and do not understand why I am now. I have done it hundreds of times in the past. He gets very worried, and it is costing me a fortune, because I have to call him on the phone to tell him I am fine. I can access my account OK, I can recieve email OK, I can compose email, I can send it locally OK, but a % sign shows up,when I try to email him, and it takes forever, then finally it says writing fcc, message sent and copied to sent mail, which I thought means it is working, but it isn't. He has gotten none of my messages for 3 days now. Where are they going, I have not gotten them back. Why is it not going through? What is stopping it? Why is it taking forever? I have tried everything, and I just don't know what to do. My support staff here has been no help at all. I know he can recieve email, because he gets the virtual flowers, and cards I send him off the internet. So why can I not get my email to go through to him??? What is happening to it???? I need some help, and do not know who to call, or who to write to. Please any help you can give me, would be greatly appreciated. I am at my wits end as to what the problem is. Thank you, Karen Johnson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:25:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA17913 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:24:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA19293 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:20:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA19289 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 08:20:40 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:19:54 +0800 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:19:54 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Karen Johnson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: I am having problems sending email to Canada In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Karen Johnson wrote: > He gets very worried, and it is costing me a fortune, because I have to > call him on the phone to tell him I am fine. He gets worried and *you* have to call him? > I can access my account OK, I can recieve email OK, I can compose email, I > can send it locally OK, but a % sign shows up,when I try to email him, and > it takes forever, then finally it says writing fcc, message sent and > copied to sent mail, which I thought means it is working, but it isn't. It is too bad your support staff can't be of help since it sounds like a local problem which can be hard to diagnose halfway across the globe. Anyway, you say a % sign shows up but you don't say where. You don't say if emails to everyone else works and it is just this one person you're having trouble reaching. In your setup/config, do you have an entry for your SMTP-server? Are you 100% sure the address is correct? Have you asked someone with an account on the same system to send and email to test? Maybe the system admin can send one for you?? Also, if the system admin is really willing to help they should be able to look in the syslog file to see how a recent message you sent traversed the system. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:07:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA06803 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:07:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA20443 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:01:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA20428 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:00:55 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA20339; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:00:52 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:00:51 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Richard L Jackson Jr cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 4.0/IMAP4 In-Reply-To: <9701141322.AA12935@gmu.edu> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Richard, This implies that you don't need Pine 4.00 at all, you just need an IMAP4-compatible IMAP server. These are available now, from multiple sources. (See www.imap.org) As always, the UW imap server is available at ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z The above version complies with the very latest (IMAP4rev1) specification in RFC2060. -teg On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Richard L Jackson Jr wrote: > Thank you for the reply. We need IMAP4 for Netscape Communicator 4.0 preview > 1. Communicator fails with IMAP2bis. Currently, we are not sure exactly > which feature it uses but it claims it needs IMAP4. > My co-worker says Netscape Communicator 4.0 preview 1 uses UID FETCH. > According to what he read in USENET, UID FETCH is not in IMAP2bis toolkit 3.6. > > -- > Regards, > Richard Jackson George Mason University > Computer Systems Senior Engineer UCIS / ISO > Computer Systems Engineering > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:27:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA11991 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:27:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA21007 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:18:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA21002 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:18:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkCSG-00038TC; Tue, 14 Jan 97 09:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: edwin levi Subject: password Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:07:30 -0800 Message-ID: <32DBD972.39EB@mail.idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit How can I get pine to "remember" my password when I log on. Right now, everytime I log on to pine from unix, it picks up my user - id and asks me to confirm it and then asks for my password. I've seen others, however who just get automatically logged on when the enter pine. If anyone out there can help, I would appreciate it. Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:55:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA16666 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:55:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA25037 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:48:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA25033 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 09:48:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkCxq-00038TC; Tue, 14 Jan 97 09:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Risner Subject: Re: Application/MS-TNEF Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:58:35 -0800 Message-ID: References: <32D9FDCB.3AA@laca.ohio.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32D9FDCB.3AA@laca.ohio.gov> On 12 Jan 1997, Barry Moore wrote: > So, what is the MS-TNEF attachment? Why is it called an application? > What causes it to be sent? Is it necessary? If not, how can it be > avoided? This MS-TNEF attachment is created by Microsoft Exchange, the e-mail program which comes with Windows 95. It contains formatting information only and no content so you can safely ignore this attachment in mail you receive. -- David G. Risner -- Network Systems Administrator Southwestern University School of Law, Los Angeles, CA Business: drisner@swlaw.edu Personal: drisner@mci2000.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 10:07:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA21254 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 10:07:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA22218 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 10:03:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA22203 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 10:03:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkD8c-00038TC; Tue, 14 Jan 97 09:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bmahoney@latte.harvard.edu (Bill Mahoney) Subject: Customized Headers Date: 13 Jan 1997 16:01:54 GMT Message-ID: <5bdm9i$4uu@decaxp.harvard.edu> I'm using Pine3.94 and trying to add a Reply-To: header. I changed the .pinerc config file like this: customized-hdrs=Reply-to: [e-mail address] but no luck. Am I missing something? Thanks Bill Mahoney bmahoney@latte.harvard.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:58:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA24128 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:58:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA25083 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:53:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from happy.com (happy.com [38.241.225.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA25076 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:53:10 -0800 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <18433>; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:47:51 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:50:14 -0500 From: SandraB Reply-To: SandraB To: edwin levi Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: password In-Reply-To: <32DBD972.39EB@mail.idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <97Jan14.144751est.18433@gateway.happy.com> Sometimes, certain users are put in a special group by the systems administrator so they do not have to put in a password to get their e-mail. You should ask your systems administrator if this is the case. ************************************************************************ Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 People often find it easier to be result of the past than a cause of the future. On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, edwin levi wrote: > How can I get pine to "remember" my password when I log on. Right now, > everytime I log on to pine from unix, it picks up my user - id and asks > me to confirm it and then asks for my password. I've seen others, however > who just get automatically logged on when the enter pine. > If anyone out there can help, I would appreciate it. > > Thanks From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:01:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA25927 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA29931 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 12:57:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from elmo.nmc.edu (elmo.nmc.edu [192.88.242.208]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA29927 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 12:57:41 -0800 Received: from localhost by elmo.nmc.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/17Jul95-0335PM) id AA26536; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:01:17 -0500 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:01:17 -0500 (EST) From: Karen Johnson To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I am having problems with sending email to canada! Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello, I have been having problems with sending email for 3 days now to canada. I can send out email to people locally, but when I send out email to friends in Montreal, it has a window come up with 0%, and it sits there for a very long time, then finally it says, writing fcc, message sent and copied to sent mail. But it does not go there, I don't know where it is, and it has not been returned to me. My friends have not been recieving anything I am sending. I have tried many times in the past 3 days. If any one has any help for me I would appreciate it, my local support is not answering my call for help. I have tried many times to email them, and have no number to call them at. My computer is fine, and everything to get into my account is working fine. I just do not know what is going on with why I can not get it to go out to Canada. It was fine just a few days ago. I can email all over the united states though. It is just not making any sense. He is still getting email from all of his other friends around his area, and down her in the u.s. too. I do not know what to do to fix this problem. Thank you, Karen Johnson johnsok@elmo.nmc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:44:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA28419 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:44:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA02736 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:38:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA02730 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:38:35 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkHRI-00038TC; Tue, 14 Jan 97 14:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: akr@cisco.com (Abhay Roy) Subject: don't read the full mail message Date: 11 Jan 1997 19:17:54 GMT Message-ID: <5b8p12$pfp@cronkite.cisco.com> Is there a way (some flag/key ?) to make pine NOT read full message in the memory before it displays the message ? Sometimes I get huge messages (say 500k) and if by mistake I press on one of them, I am stuck for next few seconds, even if I didn't really want to read that. Any help appreciated. -- Regards, -Roy- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Abhay Kumar Roy, Software Engineer Cisco Systems Inc. "By the time you can make ends meet, they move the ends" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:13:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA31112 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:13:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA02308 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:08:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA02304 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:08:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkIqG-00038TC; Tue, 14 Jan 97 16:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pau Gorostiza Subject: MIME Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 20:43:39 +0000 Message-ID: <32DA9E7B.56F0@giga.sct.ub.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm using PINE 3.93 for Linux. Does anybody know how to send messages in MIME format ? I mean to send accents and Latin1 characters through a listserver but it seems that Pine is using UUENCODE and they end up looking quite ugly... Thanks in advance, Pau -- = Pau Gorostiza pow@giga.sct.ub.es http://tam-tam.sct.ub.es = Serveis Cient=EDfico-T=E8cnics Universitat de Barcelona (34-3) 402-1349, 1352 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:18:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA00529 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:18:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA04369 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:13:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA04362 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:13:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkJu1-00038XC; Tue, 14 Jan 97 17:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine and the year 2000 question Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:01:11 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Olivier Calle wrote: > I was wondering if the pine team has thought about this at all. > Seeing how pine is such a great MUA, I'm sure it will still be in use in 3 > years... :-) > > What made me think of this is this line in the .pinerc (but maybe not the > only place that applies): > last-time-prune-questioned=97.1 > On January 1, 2000, this value will go to last-time-prune-questioned=100.1 It's not exactly elegant, but that value really isn't meant for human consumption anyway. I think everywhere else Pine defaults to using four digit years, so it should not be a problem. If anyone does spot a problem, please let us know!!! --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8730.21 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:20:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA19596 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:20:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA07303 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:13:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA07299 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:13:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkJrU-00038TC; Tue, 14 Jan 97 17:09 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: libove*@*compgen.com (Jay Vassos-Libove) Subject: From: header Date: 14 Jan 1997 19:19:58 GMT Message-ID: <5bgm8u$49@camel5.mindspring.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [ Remove "*" from e-mail address before replying! Spam bait. *sigh* ] You can recompile PINE with the ALLOW_CHANGING_FROM definition NOT commented out. This allows From: to be displayed in the customized composition headers list. However, while this will be adequate for most recipients for the purposes of Reid (the poster of the original question), it leaves behind the Sender: or X-Sender: lines with your real user ID. As you can see from my .signature file below, I insert "*"'s to head off (further) scanning of my e-mail addresses from my postings, in a (vain?) attempt to reduce the amount of spam that keeps filling up my e-mail box. My problem is that I don't want me real unadulterated e-mail address to appear ANYWHERE in my e-mail/postings. Postings are easy - my news program lets me make those changes. E-mail is not so easy -- PINE doesn't want to. Can someone provide instructions for hacking PINE to permit changing _all_ of the source address information, From: and Sender:/X-Sender: towards this end? (Please, no comments on making it easier for spammers to compose mail with falsified headers -- that is so trivial to do without using any mail client program at all that PINE's restriction is little more than a quaint relic at this point, and truly reduces PINE's value in today's Internet, *sigh*). -- Jay Vassos-Libove Senior Software Engineer +1 (770) 552-0543 (home) Computer Generation, Inc. +1 (404) 705-2867 (work) libove*@*compgen.com postmaster*@*compgen.com webmaster*@*compgen.com [ Remove "*" from e-mail address before replying! Spam bait. *sigh* ] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:51:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA00807 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:51:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA07924 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:45:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA07920 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 17:45:47 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:44:59 +0800 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:44:59 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko Subject: Re: I am having problems with sending email to canada! To: Karen Johnson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: "Your message with ID" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII > Hello, > I have been having problems with sending email for 3 days now to canada. > I can send out email to people locally, but when I send out email to > friends in Montreal, it has a window come up with 0%, and it sits there > for a very long time, then finally it says, writing fcc, message sent and > copied to sent mail. But it does not go there, I don't know where it is, > and it has not been returned to me. My friends have not been recieving > anything I am sending. I have tried many times in the past 3 days. > > If any one has any help for me I would appreciate it, my local support is > not answering my call for help. I have tried many times to email them, > and have no number to call them at. My computer is fine, and everything to > get into my account is working fine. I just do not know what is going on > with why I can not get it to go out to Canada. It was fine just a few days > ago. I can email all over the united states though. It is just not making > any sense. He is still getting email from all of his other friends around > his area, and down her in the u.s. too. I do not know what to do to fix > this problem. Do you have a shell account? If so, there are some things you can try to see where/if your mail has gone out. If you wish to try some things let me know and I'll give you a set of things to try. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:45:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA01607 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:45:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA08806 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:40:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA08799 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:39:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkLD0-00038aC; Tue, 14 Jan 97 18:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gregor J Jones Subject: PCPine: memory crashes and Postponed Folder Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:13:59 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII With PCPine I often have a memory problem, and PCPine crashes with the message something like "Problem detected: Pine exiting". This gets worse as messages get longer. My proposed solution: regularly postpone messages, especially as they get longer. But, I have just discovered that when PCPine crashes, it trashes my Postponed Folder. The folder disappears! I can undelete it, but it then contains 0 bytes. Does anybody have a better solution? PS: Would it be possible in future to compile PCPine so that it can use extended or expanded memory. I have more than 3.5 Mb free memory on my PC which PCPine doesn't appear to want to use. Yours Gregor __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) Department of Physiology 617-262-8205 (Home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 Boston MA 02118 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:52:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA01962 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA06135 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:49:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA06128 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 18:49:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkLNV-00038TC; Tue, 14 Jan 97 18:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: vi keystrokes to move around? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5b7oj1$9ns@crl12.crl.com> Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 06:08:46 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <5b7oj1$9ns@crl12.crl.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 11 Jan 1997, Tony Gonzalez wrote: > Is there any way to get pine to emulate vi like > keystrokes for moving around the index's? i.e., "j" for > down "i" for up, etc. I can't think of any easy way to do this. Modify the source code and re-compile, maybe? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:01:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA02439 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:01:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA07051 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 19:55:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA07047 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 19:55:38 -0800 Received: from (st.john@lbx-ca34-19.ix.netcom.com [206.217.119.179]) by dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com (8.6.13/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA10973 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 19:55:35 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 19:55:35 -0800 Message-Id: <199701150355.TAA10973@dfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com> From: st.john@ix.netcom.com (Martha L Zorotovich ) Subject: Re: On this day in history info? To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Anyone there who can tell me what significant things happened on January 23, 1907? Thanks, John P. Zorotovich From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:17:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA02988 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:17:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA10218 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:14:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA10214 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 20:14:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkMjB-00038TC; Tue, 14 Jan 97 20:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marco De la Cruz Subject: Re: Printing from Pine Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:33:00 GMT References: <9701082228.AA00953@ulnar.BioStr.Washington.EDU> > >In order to print out a copy of a message I am sending > >someone from Pine I have been in the habit of sending myself > >a copy & then printing it out. Is there some way I can print > >out a message before I send it off? It seems the "enable-unix-pipe-cmd" under UNIX might do it... -- _________________________________ marco@chinook.physics.utoronto.ca Gunnm: Broken Angel http://128.100.80.13/marco/alita.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:19:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA04338 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:19:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA09237 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:14:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA09233 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:14:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkObu-00038TC; Tue, 14 Jan 97 22:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Using Character Sets in Pine Date: Fri, 10 Jan 1997 19:20:11 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5b25a7$9v8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5b25a7$9v8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> On 9 Jan 1997, Annelise Anderson wrote: > I've got pine (on FreeBSD) set up to use the iso-latin1-8859 > character set, but I don't know how to send a message that > uses this particular character set. I did check the docs.... > > Any suggestions? There are two aspects of doing this. 1) You must be able to enter the characters from your keyboard. 2) You must inform Pine so that it will handle your message properly when you send it out. 2) is easy: just go into your personal configuration and set the character-set value to "ISO-8859-1" (note that iso-latin1-8859 probably does not exist); that way Pine will know that it has to deal with more than just US-ASCII characters. In the latest versions of Pine, there is also an option to try to use 8-bit transmission, so that Pine may not have to send out Quoted-Printable. 1) has no single answer. It all depends on your personal setup (such as, but not limited to, what editor you are using). Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:46:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA04080 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:46:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA12512 for pine-info-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:43:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA12408 for pine-announce-out; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:35:13 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA12404 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:35:11 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (mikes@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA00382 for ; Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:35:10 -0800 Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 22:35:08 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Seibel Reply-To: Michael Seibel To: Pine Release Announcment List: ; Subject: Pine 3.95 Patch #1 now available Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This note is to announce the availability of a small patch to the Pine Message System version 3.95. This patch is intended to address some of the more bothersome problems in the various Unix ports of the 3.95 release. While we've taken every precaution to ensure that this small set of changes introduce no new instability, as with any new release, please verify that this is the case in your environment. A detailed description of the specific problems addressed is available from: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine3.95.patch-1.readme The small patch itself is available from: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine3.95.patch-1 These files are also available via the Pine Information Center at: http://www.cac.washington.edu/pine Lastly, we would like to thank all who have taken the time to send bug reports, suggestions, and diffs. While we aren't able to address many of them in this limited patch, rest assured that we are doing our best to include what we can in the upcoming 4.00 release. As always, Thanks and Enjoy! Sincerely, The Pine Development Team From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:13:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA05126 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:13:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA13597 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:09:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA13593 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 00:09:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkQKv-00038TC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 00:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae986@freenet.hamilton.on.ca (Mavis Spence) Subject: Re: Pine-"you have new mail" message problem (fwd) Date: 10 Jan 1997 21:03:03 GMT Message-ID: <5b6aq7$mji@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> References: Paul Morneau (s589613@uottawa.ca) wrote: : SEE BELOW : -- : Paul Morneau : E-mail: s589613@uottawa.ca : 77 Bullock Ave. Ottawa, Ont. K1S 1G9 : Home: (613) 236-2334 : Pager: (613) 780-2687 : ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- : ---------- Forwarded message ---------- : Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 03:19:50 -0500 (EST) : From: Paul Morneau : To: UW Robot : Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 Most Frequently Asked Questions : Everytime I enter Pine the message "you have new mail" appears even : though no new messages exist. What is the problem? How do I correct it? : Thanks for your help. : -- : Paul Morneau : E-mail: s589613@uottawa.ca : 77 Bullock Ave. Ottawa, Ont. K1S 1G9 : Home: (613) 236-2334 : Pager: (613) 780-2687 : ~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~- Me Too!! Mavis. -- pc NextPage U Undelete F Forward m From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:17:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA32649 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:17:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA14410 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:14:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA14406 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:14:04 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:12:17 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA09168; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:13:45 GMT Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:13:44 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Bill Mahoney cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Customized Headers In-Reply-To: <5bdm9i$4uu@decaxp.harvard.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Ummm... you may well have succeeded, but just not realised it... When you add a custom header it doesn't get shown on the message composition screen by default. Instead you have to ask to see it (along with the other items in the set of "rich headers"). You do this by putting the cursor on any of the visible header lines of the message you are composing and then typing ^R (Rich Header). If your Reply-to: field then appears (with a value filled in if you set one) then you have succeeded. If you want the header to appear by default on the message composition screen then you need to set up the "default-composer-hdrs" variable too. Do read the built-in help about this before changing its value, though. Finally, I guess you already know this but to prevent confusing others... If you add a Reply-to: header the syntax is typically _not_: customized-hdrs=Reply-to: [e-mail address] But either: customized-hdrs=Reply-to: pmb1@york.ac.uk or better: customized-hdrs=Reply-to: Mike Brudenell (ie, no square brackets) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 13 Jan 1997, Bill Mahoney wrote: > I'm using Pine3.94 and trying to add a Reply-To: header. > I changed the .pinerc config file like this: > > customized-hdrs=Reply-to: [e-mail address] > > but no luck. Am I missing something? > > Thanks > > Bill Mahoney > bmahoney@latte.harvard.edu > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:32:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA05575 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA14589 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:29:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA14585 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 01:29:06 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:27:10 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA16826; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:28:38 GMT Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:28:37 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Pau Gorostiza cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: MIME In-Reply-To: <32DA9E7B.56F0@giga.sct.ub.es> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Hi! I believe I'm right in saying that Pine doesn't know anything about UUencode at all. Instead it uses the standard MIME character encoding techniques: Quoted Printable and Base64. Quoted Printable is used for the Message Text, when there are a few (less than 5%?) non-US-ASCII characters present. The rest of the Message Text is in clear text. A character encoded in Quoted Printable becomes "=XX", where "XX" are the two hexadecimal characters representing its character code. Obviously mapping a single character to three isn't terribly efficient when there are lots of them. So if the Message Text contains a significant proportion of non-US-ASCII characters the entire Message Text is converted to Base64 encoding, which is not directly readable by humans (at least, none that I know!;-) Any files attached to a message using Pine are _always_ encoded in this way. Another trigger involves Message Text with overly long lines. I think the breakpoint is about 1,000 characters(ish), but can't remember whether this triggers Quoted Printable or Base64. I _think_ the latter. When a message contains Quoted Printable or Base64 encoded text this should be clear from the headers. For example, the message you sent out containing your question included some accented characters, and included these headers: Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable The latter signifies that the message includes Quoted Printable items. These will be decoded again by recipients' mail programs. The former header identifies which character set was in use by the sender's mailer. If a recipient's Pine is set up to use a different character set then it will give a warning at the start of the message when it is viewed. So basically Pine is _already_ using MIME encoding. The fact you aren't seeing it once the articles have passed through the list server may indicate a problem with it or its configuration. You can test this by sending a message from Pine to yourself and seeing what it looks like. Then try sending a similar message through the list server. If the first works but the latter is garbled then the finger tends to point at the list server. Try checking the headers of problem messages you receive relayed through the list server. (You can do this using Pine's "H" (Full Headers) command. If Pine complains that this is not a valid command you will first need to set the "enable-full-header-cmd" option in the Setup Configuration screen.) Finally, you may not know that Pine 3.95 is the current version of Pine (and has been for a while now). You may like to mention this to whoever looks after Pine on your computer system and see if they can be persuaded to upgrade. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 13 Jan 1997, Pau Gorostiza wrote: > Hi, I'm using PINE 3.93 for Linux. Does anybody know how to send > messages in MIME format ? I mean to send accents and Latin1 characters > through a listserver but it seems that Pine is using UUENCODE and they > end up looking quite ugly... > > Thanks in advance, > Pau From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 02:31:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA06040 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 02:31:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA15603 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 02:25:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA15599 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 02:25:16 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 15 Jan 97 11:25:08 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA00412; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:14:42 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:14:42 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: Mavis Spence cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine-"you have new mail" message problem (fwd) In-Reply-To: <5b6aq7$mji@main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 10 Jan 1997, Mavis Spence wrote: >Me Too!! Congratulations... For sending the first totally uncut forwarded message with the "important" part buried beneath heaps of signature files and the "message" saying Me Too _with_ two exclamation mark, you are hereby awarded the AOL-medal h.c. May your inbox be full of spam forever... >;-> Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 02:38:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA06193 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 02:38:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA12813 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 02:35:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA12795 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 02:34:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkSfw-00038WC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 02:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Pine 3.9x (IMAP) leaving stranded rsh processes Date: 15 Jan 1997 06:29:52 GMT Message-ID: I first noticed this when I was using Pine 3.93. I have since installed Pine 3.95, and the same thing occurs, so I wonder if a) I'm doing something wrong, b) something is set-up wrong on my machine, c) this phenomena has never been reported, d) . I should start by pointing out that this is on a Linux 2.0.0 machine. Generally things run fine on the machine, and I'm pleased with its performance. I have 2 remote inboxes set-up in Pine, each on a different machine. When I read mail from either one, Pine launches an rsh process to complete the request. When I exit Pine, though, the rsh process still exists, (sometimes it's sleeping, a few times it's been swapped out of memory -- depending on what I did between exiting Pine, and checking process status'). It simply seems to have been stranded. Is there something I'm missing, not seeing, or otherwise confused about? -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi Two can Live as Cheaply as One for Half as Long. -- Howard Kandel ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 05:03:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA06997 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 05:03:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA17625 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 04:59:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from magigimmix.xs4all.nl (magigimmix.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.25]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA17621 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 04:59:26 -0800 Received: from netwerk (asd07-27.dial.xs4all.nl [194.109.44.220]) by magigimmix.xs4all.nl (8.7.6/XS4ALL) with SMTP id NAA25331 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:59:21 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970115130035.006693b4@pop.xs4all.nl> X-Sender: ashigaru@pop.xs4all.nl X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:00:35 +0100 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "marcel>ashigaru@xs4all.nl" Subject: multipart message I'm looking for a decoding program wich will be able to decode multi- part messages in mime/base64 encoding Perhaps You can help me finding it. If You can You also have to explain me how it works and how I have to use it. I don't know anything about it Thanks in advance From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:16:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA13855 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:16:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA23567 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:10:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA23563 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 10:10:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkZkN-00038TC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 10:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "James P. Meyer" Subject: Re: MIME Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:03:31 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 15 Jan 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Another trigger involves Message Text with overly long lines. I think the > breakpoint is about 1,000 characters(ish), but can't remember whether this > triggers Quoted Printable or Base64. I _think_ the latter. The pine system here at Duke seems to just wrap long lines. I accidently specified a binary file instead of a text file when I wanted to read a file into the body of a message. The system complained about the long lines and said it was wrapping them. What showed up on my terminal screen after that certainly *looked* like straight binary and not some conversion. It was *not* a pretty sight. 8-) Jim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:47:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA15739 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:47:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA23188 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:41:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA23184 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:40:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkbBY-00038TC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 11:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pau Gorostiza Subject: Re: Using Character Sets in Pine Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 16:22:41 +0000 Message-ID: <32DBB2D1.4231@giga.sct.ub.es> References: <5b25a7$9v8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > 2) is easy: just go into your personal configuration and set the > character-set value to "ISO-8859-1" (note that iso-latin1-8859 probably= > does not exist); that way Pine will know that it has to deal with more > than just US-ASCII characters. In the latest versions of Pine, there > is also an option to try to use 8-bit transmission, so that Pine may > not have to send out Quoted-Printable. I'm using Pine 3.93 on Linux 2.0.0. Do you mean these options in the setup menu ? ... [ ] disable-keymenu [X] enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation [X] enable-8bit-nntp-posting [ ] enable-aggregate-command-set ... Are they OK like this ? I manage to send latin characters to other individual users, but *not* through a listserver. I've been told I need to send them in MIME format, can Pine do this ? I didn't find any specific option... Thanks, Pau -- = Pau Gorostiza pow@giga.sct.ub.es http://tam-tam.sct.ub.es = Serveis Cient=EDfico-T=E8cnics Universitat de Barcelona (34-3) 402-1349, 1352 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:54:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA04001 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:54:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA23365 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:49:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailb.surrey.ac.uk (mailb.surrey.ac.uk [131.227.102.9]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA23361 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 11:49:50 -0800 Received: from mailc.surrey.ac.uk by mailb.surrey.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:49:46 +0000 Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:49:42 +0000 (GMT) From: Mr Wai HA Ho To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: A Question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Sir/Madame, I would like to ask whether there is any function key for people to look back the messages they have sent. And how to use it if there is one. I am looking forward to hearing from you soon. Your sincerely, Andy. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:07:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA18156 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA27975 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:01:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA27971 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:01:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkcQk-00038WC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 12:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mats Andersson Subject: Pine kill file Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 19:28:34 +0200 Message-ID: <32DD13C2.34F0@brain.syh.fi> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Is it possible to create a kill file in Pine to filter all posts from foo@bar.com Pls respond by e-mail if possible. -- - Mats _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ Argue for your limitations Mats Andersson and you can be sure to keep them Jakobstad Donald Shimoda FINLAND 967-7236 105 The Delphi FAQ is at http://proxy.sbrain.syh.fi/delphi/delphi_faq.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:53:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA19455 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:53:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA26211 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:46:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA26207 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:46:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkd9T-00038TC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 13:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jim Justen Subject: Flag Command not working, & Changing Providers Date: 15 Jan 1997 18:07:24 GMT Message-ID: <5bj6cs$rs9@epx.cis.umn.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Flag Command not working, & Changing Providers. Summary: Expires: Sender: Followup-To: Distribution : world Organization: SkyPoint Communications Inc. Keywords: cc: I have two quick questions, both related to changing Internet providers. We are running Pine 3.91, and I may have access to Unix Pine 3.95 shortly. Although the flag command is enabled in my 'config', it doesn't do much. After hitting *, there are several choices, including 'I' for 'important', which is the one I want. Isn't this information intended to be saved until the next session, assuming of course that the message is not deleted. Finally, what files make up the address book, so it can be ported to the new system? Is there anything besides .addressbook and .addressbook.lu that I need to worry about? Thanks to all group members. A CC to maxswn@skypoint.com would be appreciated. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:06:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA21469 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:06:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA01133 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:00:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailer.syr.edu (mailer.syr.edu [128.230.20.20]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA01129 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 14:59:58 -0800 Received: from rodan.syr.edu by mailer.syr.edu (LSMTP for Windows NT v1.0a) with SMTP id ECFB1F70 ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:00:00 -0500 Received: from localhost (mcadams@localhost) by rodan.syr.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id RAA08885 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:59:56 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: rodan.syr.edu: mcadams owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:59:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Melissa C. Adams" X-Sender: mcadams@rodan.syr.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: unwanted messages Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am receiving unwanted messages on my email that I believe are some sort of joke. I would like to stop receiving these messages and/or prevent them from getting to me. If you would be so kind as to let me know how to prevent this I would greatly appreciate it thankyou. Melissa From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:37:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA22221 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:37:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA28822 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:31:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA28812 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:31:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkem5-00038ZC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 15:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ralphs@chinook.halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) Subject: Re: converting between Unix and Windows Pine folders Date: 15 Jan 1997 04:53:41 GMT Message-ID: <5bhnsl$j7q$1@brokaw.wa.com> References: <5becp5$4o3$1@brokaw.wa.com> <5bhihq$ggj$2@brokaw.wa.com> In article <5bhihq$ggj$2@brokaw.wa.com>, William Julien wrote: >[Posted and mailed] >> make: *** No rule to make target `ultrix'. Stop. >> ># ult RISC Ultrix (DEC-5000) > >I tried: >make lnx Use 'make ult' to compile the binaries to run on coho and chinook. -- Northwest Nexus, Inc. - Professional Internet Services Nationwide Modem and ISDN Dial-up; Regional Dedicated Services; Web Hosting +1 206 455 3505 * +1 800 539 3505 * +1 503 624 5800 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:37:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA22226 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:37:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA01859 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:31:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA01855 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:31:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkekl-00038TC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 15:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: moonbeam@catmanor.com (William Julien) Subject: Re: converting between Unix and Windows Pine folders Date: 15 Jan 1997 03:22:34 GMT Message-ID: <5bhihq$ggj$2@brokaw.wa.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [Posted and mailed] In article <5becp5$4o3$1@brokaw.wa.com>, Nancy McGough writes: > Thanks for the info David. I just did this on halcyon but > I must have the platform (xxx above) wrong. Here's what > happened after downloading, uncompressing, and untarring: > > nancym@coho:/scratch/nancym/imap> uname > ULTRIX > nancym@coho:/scratch/nancym/imap> make ULTRIX > make: *** No rule to make target `ULTRIX'. Stop. > nancym@coho:/scratch/nancym/imap> make ultrix > make: *** No rule to make target `ultrix'. Stop. > This package supports the following platforms: (listed in the Makefile) # The following ports are defined. These refer to the *standard* compiler # on the given system. This means, for example, that the sol port is for SUN's # compiler and not for a non-standard compiler such as gcc. # If you are using gcc and it is not the standard compiler on your system, try # using an ANSI port that is close to what you have. For example, if your # system is SVR4ish, try a32 or lnx; if it's more BSDish, try nxt, mct, or bsi. # # a32 AIX 3.2 for RS/6000 # a41 AIX 4.1 for RS/6000 # aix AIX/370 # ami AmigaDOS # am2 AmigaDOS with a 68020+ # ama AmigaDOS using AS225R2 # amn AmigaDOS with a 680x0 using "new" socket library # aos AOS for RT # art AIX 2.2.1 for RT # asv Altos SVR4 # aux A/UX # bsd generic BSD # bsi BSD/i386 # cvx Convex # d-g Data General DG/UX # d41 Data General DG/UX 4.11 # dpx Bull DPX/2 B.O.S. # drs ICL DRS/NX # dyn Dynix # epx EP/IX # gas GCC Altos SVR4 # gso GCC Solaris # gsu GCC SUN-OS # gul GCC RISC Ultrix (DEC-5000) # hpp HP-UX # isc Interactive Systems # lnx Linux # lyn LynxOS # mct MachTen # mnt Mint (incomplete port) # neb NetBSD/FreeBSD # nxt NEXTSTEP # osf OSF/1 # ptx PTX # pyr Pyramid # s40 SUN-OS 4.0 # sc5 SCO Open Server 5.0.x # sco Santa Cruz Operation # shp HP-UX with Trusted Computer Base # sgi Silicon Graphics IRIX # slx Linux with shadow password security # sol Solaris (won't work unless "ucbcc" works -- use gso instead) # sos OSF/1 with SecureWare # ssn SUN-OS with shadow password security # sun SUN-OS 4.1 or better # sv2 SVR2 on AT&T PC-7300 (incomplete port) # sv4 generic SVR4 # ult RISC Ultrix (DEC-5000) # uw2 UnixWare SVR4.2 # vul VAX Ultrix # vu2 VAX Ultrix 2.3 (e.g. for VAXstation-2000 or similar old version) I tried: make lnx on linux. No problems! -- _,'| _.-''``-...___..--'; /, \'. _..-' , ,--...--''' < \ .`--''' ` /| William Julien `-,;' ; ; ; moonbeam@catmanor.com __...--'' __...--_..' .;.' http://www.catmanor.com/moonbeam/ (,__....----''' (,..--'' vi is my shepherd; i shall not font. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:38:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA21974 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:38:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA01892 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:31:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA01885 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:31:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkenJ-00038cC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 15:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Marco De la Cruz Subject: Re: Best editors Message-ID: Date: Wed, 8 Jan 1997 15:02:35 GMT References: <32D26BAF.1E28@intermicro.com> Eric Wood writes: > Gottcha! When I mean best editor I mean bells and whistles! [snip!] How 'bout Emacs? _________________________________ marco@chinook.physics.utoronto.ca Gunnm: Broken Angel http://128.100.80.13/marco/alita.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:39:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA22285 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:39:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA01868 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:31:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA01864 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:31:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkelK-00038WC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 15:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Sankar Mukhopadhyay Subject: Re: regarding mailing a wordperfect document. Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 14:02:58 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: *************************************** ********************* Sankar Mukhopadhyay Library Systems SUNY Health Science Center @ Brooklyn sankar@hscbklyn.edu <<< The reverse side has also a reverse side.>>> Japanese Proverb On 12 Jan 1997, Robert J Wilshe wrote: > > Kalpana: > > Simple enough. Just FTP the file into your home directory, which can be > viewed at any UNIX prompt by typing "cd ~/" then "pwd". Once the file is > there, you can attach it when you are composing your letter. When your > cursor is on the "Attchmnt:" field press cntl-T and this will take you to > your files in your home directory. Select the file you want to send, and > you're set. Make sure though that your recipient can process mime-encoded > mail, which is how pine will send it. Hi, so far no problem. But when the recipient gets it what does she/he do? It usually asks the attachment to be saved. When I save it and ftp to my pc, try to open up with WordPerfect, it still shows garbage. Any help is appreciated. > > (Robin, if you're there, help us out with UNIX ftp. I use a Win95 client, > and I know you're proficient with the UNIX ftp commands. :) > > Good luck and best regards, > > \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ > robert depaul university > joseph chicago illinois > wilshe u s a > > email rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu > ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// > > On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Kalpana Reddy Kothapally wrote: > > > hello, > > > > I would like to know as to how can I mail a word perfect document using > > pine so that I don't need to save the document in any format other than > > wordperfect 6.0 which I am using. I would like the receiver to receive > > it in the same format as I had documented it in wordperfect.(meaning I do > > not want any ASCII characters to replace the bullets or any other special > > symbols I use for the document). > > > > Thanks. > > ..Kalpana > > > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:39:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11924 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:39:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA28833 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:31:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA28826 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:31:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkemT-00038aC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 15:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Shawn Kearley Subject: Pine 3.91 Beta 9 -on VAX/VMS Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 11:33:36 -0800 Message-ID: <32DBDF90.521F@nfpower.nf.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am attempting to setup Pine on VAX/VMS. I have the program compiled and running but I seem to be running into some problems. When I attempt to send a message which includes an attachment to another user on the VAX, the message is never delivered and no failure mesage is returned. When I check the SPOOL directory for mail meing sent I can see the message which I sent out and at the top is the error: 2 Error opening !AS as output We are using TCPware and I have compiled Pine with Netlib. Any assistance with this or setting up Pine on the VAX in general would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance Shawn Kearley From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:40:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA22368 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:40:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA02019 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:36:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA02015 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:36:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkeo8-00038WC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 15:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: voldemar@sagantec.co.il (Vladimir A. Pertsel) Subject: Re: Using Character Sets in Pine Date: 15 Jan 1997 08:10:44 GMT Message-ID: <5bi3e4$o95@news.NetVision.net.il> References: <5b25a7$9v8@nntp.Stanford.EDU> <32DBB2D1.4231@giga.sct.ub.es> In article <32DBB2D1.4231@giga.sct.ub.es>, Pau Gorostiza writes: |> Are they OK like this ? I manage to send latin characters to other |> individual users, but *not* through a listserver. I've been told I need |> to send them in MIME format, can Pine do this ? I didn't find any |> specific option... |> ftp://mail.sagantec.co.il/pub/russian/pine-with-koi8.txt 1Kb ftp://mail.sagantec.co.il/pub/russian/pine3.95.with-8-th-bit.tar.gz (2M) -- From the Holy Land, with respect /\ /\ Vladimir A. Pertsel S/W engineer ((ovo)) E-mail: \|/ Sagantec Israel ():::() voldemar@sagantec.co.il (o o) tel.972-4-8572781 --PVA------------------------ooO-(_)-Ooo------------------ an ancestor of mine by the name of Noah was once the commanding admiral of the combined fleets of my planet. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:40:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA22381 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:40:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA01874 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:31:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA01870 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:31:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkemr-00038bC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 15:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tariq Ahmed Subject: Pine and PC, need pop solution Date: 14 Jan 1997 18:21:07 GMT Message-ID: <5bgiqj$2dv@news.istar.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. Of course we all know, pine rules. Where I am now, I only have a PC, but PC-Pine doesn't support pop, and there's no access to mount my mail dir from the PC. So I need some kind of pop client utility that can periodically download my files. Any suggestions? Thanks. -- Tariq Ahmed iSTAR Internet Services tariq.ahmed@corp.istar.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:41:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA22390 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:41:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA28972 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:36:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA28968 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:36:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkenk-00038eC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 15:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dustin@bleu.west.spy.net (Dustin Sallings) Subject: Re: compile failure Date: 14 Jan 1997 00:44:12 GMT Message-ID: <5bekss$85h@keyhole.west.spy.net> References: <5be0si$sk8@mirac.unm.edu> In article <5be0si$sk8@mirac.unm.edu>, hamjavar@unm.edu writes: > Hello, > > OS IRIX 6.2 > PINE 3.91 > > I am trying to compile pine 3.91 on irix 6.2 > I can not make it to work to build pine because of the following > errors. > > -- For reasons I don't want to get into, I am not interested in > using pine 3.95! Please don't reply back saying that I should > use pine 3.95. > > My guess is that since building c-client does not get done, > the rest (building pine) will also suffer and never get done. Hmm.. I was about to suggest 3.95 since it compiled cleanly and is already running on my machine and I could send you a binary, but I guess that's out of the question... It looks like iov isn't getting defined. Seems like it may have been pine I was going through the source on changing stuff. It was something... Just make sure iov gets defined properly as what it's supposed to be defined as. -- IPA.net Sysadmin My girlfriend asked me which one I like better. pub 1024/3CAE01D5 1994/11/03 Dustin Sallings | Key fingerprint = 87 02 57 08 02 D0 DA D6 C8 0F 3E 65 51 98 D8 BE L_______________________ I hope the answer won't upset her. ____________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:41:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA22396 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA28810 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:31:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA28806 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:31:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkelf-00038YC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 15:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Subject: Re: filtering FAQ Date: 7 Jan 1997 23:29:41 GMT Message-ID: <5aum95$s5d@cdshub.cdc.com> References: <32D2ABAD.4243@fccj.cc.fl.us> In article <32D2ABAD.4243@fccj.cc.fl.us> amatt@fccj.cc.fl.us (amatt) wrote: > Is using procmail usefull on filtering out just pine mail or can I use > it with Netscape Mail 2.0 that I will run on Solaris? I am looking for a > turnkey package that can do the job. thanks... You can use procmail to filter incoming mail regardless of what client SW you use. The only thing you have to worry about is if your client SW can access the folders which were created as part of the filtering process. For example, if you were to use Netscape on a PC and filtered incoming mail with procmail the Netscape on the PC has no way to access the folders created by procmail. Regards, Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:42:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA22450 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:42:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA28980 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:36:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA28974 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:36:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkeoT-00038YC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 15:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Joseph Strout Subject: HELP! pine hangs upon exit Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 09:21:26 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII For the last week or so, Pine 3.94 has been hanging indefinately when I try to exit. It doesn't always do so, but it does more than half the time. I just ran it with -d9, and the tail of the debug file looks like this: ---------------------------------------------------------- row: -2, real_row: 38, column: 0 Select readfds:1 timeval:0,0 Select on tty returned 1 Read char returning: 121 y Want_to read: y (121) resume_busy_alarm expunge and close mail stream "/home/jstrout/mail/inbox" q_status_message(Closing "INBOX"...) output_message(Closing "INBOX"...) comatose(44) returns:"44" end_signals(1) ** Received SIGHUP ** ---------------------------------------------------------- The SIGHUP is where (after about 30 seconds, though I've waited much longer before) I finally just close the window. (^C, ^Y, etc., all seem ineffective; closing the window is the only way I've found to kill it.) Any idea what might be causing this, or what I could do about it? Most gratefully, -- Joe Strout ,------------------------------------------------------------------. | Joseph J. Strout Department of Neuroscience, UCSD | | jstrout@ucsd.edu http://www-acs.ucsd.edu/~jstrout/ | `------------------------------------------------------------------' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:58:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA21800 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:58:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA02477 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:53:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (gateway.Kwantlen.BC.CA [134.87.141.250]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA02470 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:53:48 -0800 Received: from student.kwantlen.bc.ca by gateway.kwantlen.bc.ca (5.65c/SMI-4.1) id AA27898; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:53:41 -0800 Received: from localhost by student.Kwantlen.BC.CA (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA19942; Wed, 15 Jan 97 15:53:39 PST Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 15:53:39 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher Golden To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help. Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there some way I can export my address book to a file or something of the sort so I can mail it off to someone? Or is it not possible. And is it possible to retrieve a file I have on a disk (a:) and file attach it? Thanx! =============================================================================== Lates from the desk of Golden Chris Golden Home: (6o4)94o-987o Pager: (6o4)450-7043 BBS: (6o4)94o-987o Keeper of the Steveston Grad of '96 E-mail address list =============================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:16:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA24548 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:16:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA04310 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:06:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA04291 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:05:42 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 16 Jan 97 02:05:14 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA00498; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:02:56 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:02:56 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: "Melissa C. Adams" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: unwanted messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="8323328-1519523244-853376576=:397" This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --8323328-1519523244-853376576=:397 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Melissa C. Adams wrote: >I am receiving unwanted messages on my email that I believe are some sort >of joke. I would like to stop receiving these messages and/or prevent >them from getting to me. If you would be so kind as to let me know how to >prevent this I would greatly appreciate it thankyou. Get some filtering program. I've enclosed the filtering.faq for all those with similar problems:-) Cheers, Sushi P.S. If you're running unix, get procmail, I've some nice anti-spamming recipes, including the infamous "20 GB X-sources bounce". ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. 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15 Jan 97 17:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gilletdj@acasun.eckerd.edu (David J. Gillett) Subject: phonebook question Date: 12 Jan 1997 01:57:09 -0500 Message-ID: <5ba205$5c5@acasun.eckerd.edu> Is there any phone book type set ups through pine, like those available in gopher, to look up people's e-mail addresses? Send answers to gilletdj@acasun.eckerd.edu. Thanks a bunch in advance david gillet From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:28:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA09364 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA04635 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:23:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA04631 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 17:23:34 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 16 Jan 97 02:23:25 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id CAA00627; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:19:52 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:19:52 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: Sankar Mukhopadhyay cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: regarding mailing a wordperfect document. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Sankar Mukhopadhyay wrote: >> On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Kalpana Reddy Kothapally wrote: >> > I would like to know as to how can I mail a word perfect document using >> > pine so that I don't need to save the document in any format other than >> > wordperfect 6.0 which I am using. I would like the receiver to receive >> > it in the same format as I had documented it in wordperfect.(meaning I do >> > not want any ASCII characters to replace the bullets or any other special >> > symbols I use for the document). >On 12 Jan 1997, Robert J Wilshe wrote: [snipped ftp stuff] >Hi, so far no problem. But when the recipient gets it what does she/he do? >It usually asks the attachment to be saved. When I save it and ftp to my >pc, try to open up with WordPerfect, it still shows garbage. Errr... what?!? Ok, now here's what happens: 1. You create a file. 2. You ftp the file to where your mail account is. 3. You attach it to a pine mail. No problem so far. 4. A third party gets your mail. "it" "usually" asks the attachment to be saved. I presume "it" is the other party's email program. Fine... 5. You (?) ftp the file back home and open it. The _same_ file? You sure? What kind of "garbage"? What _might_ have happened is that the WP file (let's call it the binary, because that's what it is) did not get mime- or uudecoded. Or if it did, that you did not decode it. Now it seems that you've opened a binary - or that somewhere on the way some kind of unix2dos or dos2unix has eaten your file (not possible, but I like the idea...). Why don't you send me the file and I'll see what I can do. Another possible explation is that you've opened a file in another format (i.e. not WP). Maybe you could give us some clearer hints as to what OSs you're using at home, at the university, what the third party is using as its mailing program etc. That _really_ might help. >Any help is appreciated. >> (Robin, if you're there, help us out with UNIX ftp. I use a Win95 client, >> and I know you're proficient with the UNIX ftp commands. :) [I left that in for vanity's sake >;-> I sometimes do that at 2:30 in the morning after Win95 has crashed for the 9. time in 6 hours...] Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:04:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA25044 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:04:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA05220 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:01:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA05216 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:01:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkh59-00038WC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 17:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bernie@metapro.com.au (Bernd Felsche) Subject: Re: Pico and nn: cutting off long lines? Message-ID: References: <5artas$85k@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 06:42:50 GMT In guckes@euler.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) writes: >schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz): >> I'm using Pico 2.9 (because [...] it does automatic line wrapping) [*] as my >> default editor for nn 6.5.1. Now when I'm writing an article which contains >> a header line longer than 255 characters [...] this line gets cut off, so >> only the first 255 characters are imported into the editor. >Yup, that's one of PICO's MISfeatures. >See my page http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pico/ >My suggestion is to trash PICO and use a good[tm] editor - VIM, eg: >[*] VIM does text wrapping - simple "set tw=79" in your vimrc. >My vimrc should get you started fast: > http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/vim/vimrc VIM *is* very nice. However, I should add that standard vi has a wrap-margin setting. "set wm=10" will wrap 10 characters from the end of line - allowing you to be requoted ad nauseum in followups without the line wrapping around annoyingly. -- Bernd Felsche {speaking for himself} MetaPro Systems Pty Ltd, 130 Fauntleroy Avenue, Redcliffe, Western Australia 6104 Phone: +61 9 479 3722 Fax: +61 9 479 3720 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:05:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA24957 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:05:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA02424 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:01:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA02420 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:01:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkh4z-00038TC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 17:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: bernie@metapro.com.au (Bernd Felsche) Subject: Re: Pico and nn: cutting off long lines? Message-ID: References: <5artas$85k@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 06:39:04 GMT In <5artas$85k@brachio.zrz.TU-Berlin.DE> schwarz@physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) writes: >I'm using Pico 2.9 (because unlike many other editors it does automatic >line wrapping) as my default editor for nn 6.5.1. >Now when I'm writing an article which contains a header line longer than >255 or 256 characters (I'm not exactly sure) this line gets cut off, >meaning only the first 255 or 256 characters are imported into the editor. >Such a situation can occur for exaple for the References: line when doing >a followuop to a faily long thread. Needless to say it's not nice to have >that line being chopped off. >What can I do about it short of using a different editor? Maybe >recompiling pine? Is there any version of pine which does not have a fixed >maximum of characters per line? >What do the RFCs say about the maximum length a Usenet news or email >header line is supposed to have? AFAIK, no maximum length is specified by any RFC. Pico is a bit stupid about line-wrapping. It should only be wrapping the lines you type ... but that's probably too sensible. But you never know; maybe there's an option in pico. If pico truncates the lines as they are read in, then that is a case of pico brain-death. -- Bernd Felsche {speaking for himself} MetaPro Systems Pty Ltd, 130 Fauntleroy Avenue, Redcliffe, Western Australia 6104 Phone: +61 9 479 3722 Fax: +61 9 479 3720 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:35:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA25730 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:35:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA02956 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:31:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA02949 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:31:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkhbi-00038WC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 18:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wbaughma@osf1.gmu.edu (Wayne A Baughman) Subject: Need help compiling Pico for sVR3.2 Date: 11 Jan 1997 23:08:22 GMT Message-ID: <5b96h6$6db@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We are running AT&T Sys V, R3.2 on an Intel PC, and we would like to compile Pico for the system as an alternative to vi. If anyone knows if this is possible or has done it, could you drop me a note? We would upgrade to a more recent version of *nix, but the stat package we're running was compiled for this version. Thanks in advance, --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wayne A. Baughman | "Delusive fortune hears the incessant George Mason University USA | call, They mount, they shine, evaporate, American Institutes for Research | and fall." Tel: 202.342.5109/703.573.2023 | - Sam. Johnson --------------------------------------------------------------------------- email: wbaughma@gmu.edu; wbaughman@air-dc.org --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:36:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA25760 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA05728 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:31:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA05724 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 18:31:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkhYq-00038TC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 18:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: LRC-Lienzer Dolomiten Subject: GRAN FONDO DOLOMITENLAUF Date: Mon, 06 Jan 1997 15:59:25 +0100 Message-ID: <32D1134D.6EE9@dolomitensport.telecom.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit 25° DOLOMITENLAUF - NEWS - ITALIANO REGALO DI ANNIVERSARIO PER LA DOLOMITENLAUF PIÙ DI UN METRO DI NEVE E BASSE TEMPERATURE GARANTISCONO LO SVOLGIMENTO DELLA GARA NELLE MIGLIORI CONDIZIONI POSSIBILI. 25° DOLOMITENLAUF Lienz-Austria Gara di Gran Fondo 65 km - Tecnica libera - Valida per la Worldloppet Cup 1996/97 Fra pochi giorni prenderà il via per la venticinquesima volta la Dolomitenlauf. I 65 km del tracciato sono già pronti e preparati al meglio. Più di 50 cm di neve fresca e le basse temperature garantiscono lo svolgimento della gara nelle condizioni ideali. Alle 9.30 di Domenica 19 gennaio 1997 partirà la 25° edizione della Dolomitenlauf, inizio di tutte le maifestazioni della Euroloppet e della Worldloppet, alla quale si sono già annunciati i migliori atleti del settore. Molte le iscrizioni pervenute dalla Svezia, dalla Francia, dalla Repubblica Ceca, dalla Slovenia, dalla Russia e, naturalmente dall'Italia. Fra le tante il pluri-vincitore Michail Botvinov (Russia) e l'Olipionico Maurilio De Zolt (Italia) Nemmeno il Team della nazionale Austriaca mancherà all'appuntamento. Fra i campioni locali Alois Blasnik e Norbert Ganner. Da non dimenticare la partecipazione di Francesco Moser, il quale ha preso parte per la prima volta ad una gara di fondo proprio alla Dolomitenlauf edizione 1996. Con la 25° Dolomitenlauf ha inizio anche la combinata TIROLER-ADLER, della quale fanno parte, oltre alla Dolomitenlauf, la Val Casies (Alto Adige) e la Koasalauf. I concorrenti che parteciperanno a tutte le tre manifestazioni riceveranno la medaglia della combinata. Da 18 anni un altro evento fa da contorno alla gara vera e propria: è il DOLOMITENSPRINT che si terrà quest'anno nello stadio di Lienz. In compagnia delle note di un Concerto all'aperto, gli spettatori potranno quindi seguire l'evento dalla partenza all'arrivo. Alla 25° Dolomitenlauf sono attesi più di 2000 concorrenti provenienti da 30 Nazioni. Le iscrizioni si accettano fino a poco prima della partenza e la quota di partecipazione è di 500 OS per la DOLOMITENLAUF ( 65 km ) e di 350 OS per la LIENZ-LAUF ( 25 km ). Tutti i pertecipanti riceveranno la medaglia del Giubileo ed il diploma. Per Informazioni: Tel. 0043-4852-65999 oppure 65555 Internet: http://www.dolomitensport.co.at/lrc email: lrc@dolomitensport.telecom.at From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 21:15:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA27286 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 21:15:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA05231 for pine-info-out; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 21:12:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA05227 for ; Wed, 15 Jan 1997 21:12:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkk3W-00038TC; Wed, 15 Jan 97 21:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thornes@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Subject: Multiple Sigs. Date: 16 Jan 1997 03:00:45 GMT Message-ID: <5bk5kt$gki$2@news.sas.ab.ca> Just asking about the possibilities. When I used to use BlueWave off-line reader, I had numerous tagline files for different usegroups, or to just randomly add one to my message. Is there anyway to set up a random .sig file in PINE? This way, I can write different things and have them appear randomly, or maybe pick and choose. I know PINE .sigs and BlueWave Taglines, though similar, are not the same, and this may not be possible, since most people DO NOT CHANGE their sigs constantly (the .sig usually used as an on-line business card). As I said, just looking into the possibilities. Steve Thorne -- Ramblins courtesy of The Edge Magazine http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~thornes WEATHER REPORT: The confused ramblings of people who made a career of guesswork and conjecture. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:59:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA29580 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA10822 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:52:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA10813 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:52:55 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 16 Jan 97 09:52:48 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA00258; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:46:22 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:46:22 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: "David J. Gillett" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: phonebook question In-Reply-To: <5ba205$5c5@acasun.eckerd.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 12 Jan 1997, David J. Gillett wrote: >Is there any phone book type set ups through pine, like those available in >gopher, to look up people's e-mail addresses? Send answers to >gilletdj@acasun.eckerd.edu. Thanks a bunch in advance >david gillet Hm? If you mean "are there yellow pages on the internet", check www.whowhere.com. It's _nothing_ to do with pine, however. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 01:05:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA23748 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 01:05:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA10942 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 01:02:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA10938 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 01:02:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vknfD-00038WC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 00:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: oak@crl.com (Tony Gonzalez) Subject: unix: pipe to cat throws me in a viewer? Date: 16 Jan 1997 07:45:08 GMT Message-ID: <5bkma4$qdg@nexp.crl.com> If I pipe a message to 'cat' I get into a viewer, and the message never scrolls through the screen from beginning to end. Anyone know what gives? Thanks -Tony . . . . . . . . . . . . ._______________________________________. | oak@crl.com | http://www.crl.com/~oak | |_____________|___ Southern California _| From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 01:57:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA29915 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 01:57:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA11590 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 01:53:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA11584 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 01:52:59 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:34/EUnetD-2.6.1.h) via EUnet id KAA05378; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:51:54 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id KAA29687; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:32:31 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:02:17 +0100 (MET) To: Mr Wai HA Ho cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: A Question In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Mr Wai HA Ho wrote: -> Dear Sir/Madame, -> -> I would like to ask whether there is any function key for -> people to look back the messages they have sent. And how to use it if -> there is one. -> -> I am looking forward to hearing from you soon. -> -> Your sincerely, -> Andy. -> All outgoing messages are copied to fcc-folder. Default: sent-mail. Look at your config-screen (lines "default-fcc" & "folder-collections") to see the definition of _your_ default fcc-folder. Rudolf ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:07:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA29443 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:07:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA08858 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:04:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crnal4.in2p3.fr (crnal4.in2p3.fr [193.48.86.63]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA08854 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:04:21 -0800 Received: by crnal4.in2p3.fr; id AA03082; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:04:19 +0100 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:04:18 +0100 (MET) From: Jean Schuller To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Reply problems Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi gurus, I have the following problem using pine 3.95 : When I send a mail with pine to my correspondant and he replyed with an other mailer (like elm), I don't get this reply ?? and curiously, he don't get an error message... Is there any configuration to apply ?? What is wrong on my Pine ?? TIA Jean ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jean Schuller _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/ _/ Centre de Recherches Nucleaires _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/ Boite Postale 28 - CR 23, Rue du Loess _/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX - France _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ e-mail : schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ local : 0388106630 | fax : 0388106234 foreign : 33 388106630 | fax : 33 388106234 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:11:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA29975 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:11:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA11805 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:08:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA11798 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:08:11 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:34/EUnetD-2.6.1.h) via EUnet id LAA08133; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:06:42 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id KAA29690; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:32:37 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:21:16 +0100 (MET) To: Pau Gorostiza cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Using Character Sets in Pine In-Reply-To: <32DBB2D1.4231@giga.sct.ub.es> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Pau Gorostiza wrote: -> > 2) is easy: just go into your personal configuration and set the -> > character-set value to "ISO-8859-1" (note that iso-latin1-8859 probabl= y -> > does not exist); that way Pine will know that it has to deal with more -> > than just US-ASCII characters. In the latest versions of Pine, there -> > is also an option to try to use 8-bit transmission, so that Pine may -> > not have to send out Quoted-Printable. ->=20 -> I'm using Pine 3.93 on Linux 2.0.0. Do you mean these options in the -> setup menu ? -> ... -> [ ] disable-keymenu -> [X] enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation -> [X] enable-8bit-nntp-posting -> [ ] enable-aggregate-command-set -> ... ->=20 -> Are they OK like this ? I manage to send latin characters to other -> individual users, but *not* through a listserver. I've been told I need -> to send them in MIME format, can Pine do this ? I didn't find any -> specific option... ->=20 -> Thanks, -> Pau -> --=20 -> Pau Gorostiza -> pow@giga.sct.ub.es -> http://tam-tam.sct.ub.es=20 ->=20 -> Serveis Cient=EDfico-T=E8cnics -> Universitat de Barcelona -> (34-3) 402-1349, 1352 ->=20 I think that most transmissions are not 8bit-clean, so that enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation does'nt work. Then you should use Mime-encoding (Pine does it for you). ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:22:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA30066 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:22:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA09073 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:18:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ldhpux.immt.pwr.wroc.pl (ldhpux.immt.pwr.wroc.pl [156.17.8.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA09069 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:18:36 -0800 Received: from itots3.ch.pwr.wroc.pl by ldhpux.immt.pwr.wroc.pl with SMTP (1.40.112.8/16.2) id AA021109909; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:18:29 +0100 Received: from ITOTS/MAILQUEUE by itots3.ch.pwr.wroc.pl (Mercury 1.11); Thu, 16 Jan 97 12:06:32 GMT+1 Received: from MAILQUEUE by ITOTS (Mercury 1.11); Thu, 16 Jan 97 12:06:30 GMT+1 Received: from stan.ch.pwr.wroc.pl by itots3.ch.pwr.wroc.pl (Mercury 1.11); Thu, 16 Jan 97 12:06:24 GMT+1 Message-Id: <32DE0D6C.1CE3B5E2@stan.ch.pwr.wroc.pl> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:13:48 +0100 From: Stanislaw Kucharski Organization: Wroclaw Technical University, I-27 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (X11; I; Linux 2.0.18 i686) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: BinHex 4.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am searching for BinHex 4.0 mail decoding program. I remember that it was placed somewhere on a server of Washington University. I should be grateful for an information S.Kucharski ********************************************************************* * Prof. Dr. Stanislaw Kucharski * Tel. +48 71 3202862 * * Institute of Organic and * +48 71 3202426 * * Polymer Technology * * * Wroclaw Technical University * Fax +48 71 3203678 * * ul. Wybrzeze Wyspianskiego 27 * * * 50-370 Wroclaw, Poland * * ********************************************************************* * E-mail: stanley@stan.ch.pwr.wroc.pl * * kucharski@itots.ch.pwr.wroc.pl * ********************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:36:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA30077 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA09216 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:32:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA09212 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 02:32:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkp3e-00038WC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 02:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bruce Weaver Subject: Re: Threading NG with pine... Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:13:30 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Kong Sing Yeong wrote: > > I just realised that you can actually thread the news articles using > select (;) ....never thought of that before :) You can also "sort the index". Using PINE 3.90 (under unix), I can sort by Subject, for example, by pressing $ and then S. Bruce Weaver UWB, Psychology pss091@bangor.ac.uk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 06:36:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA22857 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 06:36:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA14895 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 06:33:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA14891 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 06:33:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vksqC-00038WC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 06:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: diab@acsu.buffalo.edu Subject: pine IMAP version connecting to IMAP4 Netscape Mail Server Date: Tue, 07 Jan 1997 12:16:13 -0500 Message-ID: <32D284DD.557B@acsu.buffalo.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, This is probably an obvious question but my problem is as follows: - We are running netscape MailServer on A Windows NT server. Netscape runs POP3 and IMAP4 along with smtp and other proto's. - We are _trying_ to use PC Pine 3.95 (beta) to connect and download mail from the server to both Windows 3.11 and Win95 PCs. (main goal is Win 3.11) - The error message I get in pine is: ([CLOSED] IMAP connection broken (server reponse)) - from the server's side the imapd reports that the USER=???? and HOST=UNKNOWN. These fields are correctly filled in pine setup. ****** THE QUESTION: ****** What version of IMAP is Pine 3.95 running anyway. Or does this problem have a totally different cause. My guess is that there are two IMAP versions talking but protocols are supposed to be backwards compatible!!!!! Any help would be great. Thanks, - Eamon From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:18:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA01210 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:18:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA16427 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:14:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason04.u.washington.edu (jason04.u.washington.edu [140.142.78.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA16422; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:14:31 -0800 Received: from saul2.u.washington.edu (saul2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.21]) by jason04.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA17106; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:13:29 -0800 Received: from localhost (mramey@localhost) by saul2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA18260; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:14:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:14:29 -0800 (PST) From: "'Mike' M Ramey" Reply-To: "'Mike' M Ramey" To: CAC- Pine-Info Email List , CAC- Steve Jones {NewsMaster} Subject: Pine cannot read news messages 's'aved to a 'nn' folder. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Documentation Only -- I sometimes use pine as a newsreader; my longtime newsreader has been 'nn'. When reading news with nn, I often 's'ave (or sh'o'rt-save) interesting messages into my 'nn' folders. Just now I configured the pine folder collections so that I could read these nn-saved messages with pine also. IT DOES NOT WORK. Apparently 'nn' mucks up the header information so pine can't sort out the individual messages; pine sees just one huge message. Rats! Sample header below. -mr ----------------------------------------------------- Path: news.u.washington.edu!server ~From: "'Mike' M Ramey" ~Newsgroups: uwash.comp.virus ~Subject: FindVirus - what does "2.OLE" mean? Answer. ~Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:50:49 -0800 (PST) Organization: University of Washington ~Lines: 101 ~Sender: COMP-VIRUS-owner@u.washington.edu Approved: comp-virus@u.washington.edu Message-ID: ~Reply-To: comp-virus@u.washington.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.u.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: first-class Originator: server@lists.u.washington.edu When you run the FindVirus program, you may see a message like: C:\DOCS\MYDOC.DOC\2.OLE identified as ... virus !!! If you wonder what "2.OLE" means, read on. -mr ----------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:37:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA01949 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA14012 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:33:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA14005 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:33:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkukB-00038WC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 08:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thornes@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Subject: Re: Printing from Pine Date: 16 Jan 1997 02:56:04 GMT Message-ID: <5bk5c4$gki$1@news.sas.ab.ca> References: <9701082228.AA00953@ulnar.BioStr.Washington.EDU> On a similar note: Our ISP uses PINE for their LYNX server mail. When I started on this server, I was told that the prYnt command would only print on a printer connected to the network server, NOT the users personal computer. Now that I am a helpdesk volunteer, I have fielded many question from people who say one of two things: How can I print my email, or I used to be able to use the Y command to print my email, and now I cannot. I could never print MY mail, because at the time, my printer driver was set for my modem for faxes, and since my modem was in use dialing into my ISP, I couldn't print, BUT, my sisters computer printed email with no problem, but my brother's computer would print part of a long message, then get all garbled, then print more. I have asked our servers resident PINE expert, but he does not deem it worthy to answer apparently, since it was about a month ago and I still have not heard from him, and I have written washington U's pine support people, who, probably because of the volume of email, have not had time to answer, but refered me to their webpage, which contained no useful information to this question. So, as a last resort, I now turn to the good people of the PINE usegroup. What is it on PINE or on your system, that will allow you to unerringly print email off your own printer connected to a server through a dialup account? I REALLY would like to be able to tell the users SOMETHING other than, I don't know, you shouldn't be able to do it anyway! TIA. Steve Thorne -- Ramblins courtesy of The Edge Magazine http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~thornes WEATHER REPORT: The confused ramblings of people who made a career of guesswork and conjecture. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:40:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA02092 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA14096 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:36:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason02.u.washington.edu (jason02.u.washington.edu [140.142.76.8]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA14088; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:36:45 -0800 Received: from saul2.u.washington.edu (saul2.u.washington.edu [140.142.56.21]) by jason02.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA06322; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:35:31 -0800 Received: from localhost (mramey@localhost) by saul2.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA27724; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:36:44 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 08:36:44 -0800 (PST) From: "'Mike' M Ramey" To: CAC- Pine-Info Email List , CAC- Steve Jones {NewsMaster} Subject: PINE DAMAGES 'NN' FOLDER FILES - DON'T DO IT !!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII And apparently the attempt to read an 'nn' folder with pine changes the nn folder file, so that the next time you try to read it with nn, you get the error message at the bottom of the screen: Not a folder (no article header) Apparently other nn folders in the same directory are not damaged. I have included below the top of the nn folder file _before_ and _after_ the error message appeared in nn; I cannot see any difference in these lines, but I know the error does occur and is reproducable! Any comments would be appreciated, in addition to "DON'T DO IT !!!" Many thanks, -mr On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, 'Mike' M Ramey wrote: > Documentation Only -- I sometimes use pine as a newsreader; my > longtime newsreader has been 'nn'. When reading news with nn, I > often 's'ave (or sh'o'rt-save) interesting messages into my 'nn' > folders. Just now I configured the pine folder collections so that I > could read these nn-saved messages with pine also. IT DOES NOT WORK. > Apparently 'nn' mucks up the header information so pine can't sort > out the individual messages; pine sees just one huge message. Rats! > Sample header below. -mr ---------- BEFORE THE ERROR MESSAGE ---------- Path: news.u.washington.edu!server ~From: "'Mike' M Ramey" ~Newsgroups: uwash.comp.virus ~Subject: FindVirus - what does "2.OLE" mean? Answer. ~Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:50:49 -0800 (PST) Organization: University of Washington ~Lines: 101 ~Sender: COMP-VIRUS-owner@u.washington.edu Approved: comp-virus@u.washington.edu Message-ID: ~Reply-To: comp-virus@u.washington.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.u.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: first-class Originator: server@lists.u.washington.edu When you run the FindVirus program, you may see a message like: C:\DOCS\MYDOC.DOC\2.OLE identified as ... virus !!! If you wonder what "2.OLE" means, read on. -mr ---------- AFTER THE ERROR MESSAGE ---------- Path: news.u.washington.edu!server ~From: "'Mike' M Ramey" ~Newsgroups: uwash.comp.virus ~Subject: FindVirus - what does "2.OLE" mean? Answer. ~Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:50:49 -0800 (PST) Organization: University of Washington ~Lines: 101 ~Sender: COMP-VIRUS-owner@u.washington.edu Approved: comp-virus@u.washington.edu Message-ID: ~Reply-To: comp-virus@u.washington.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.u.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Precedence: first-class Originator: server@lists.u.washington.edu When you run the FindVirus program, you may see a message like: C:\DOCS\MYDOC.DOC\2.OLE identified as ... virus !!! If you wonder what "2.OLE" means, read on. -mr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:42:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA03726 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:42:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA18406 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:37:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from carson.u.washington.edu (carson.u.washington.edu [140.142.52.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA18402 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:37:55 -0800 Received: from [128.95.150.168] by carson.u.washington.edu (5.65+UW96.08/UW-NDC Revision: 2.33 ) id AA09865; Thu, 16 Jan 97 09:37:54 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:39:10 -0800 () From: Fred Breedlove To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pcpine Message-Id: X-X-Sender: fblove@mailer16.u.washington.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been using the "standard" version of pine for some time (successfully) and I just completed downloading & installing pc-pine 3.95. I can send mail (such as this message) successfully, but I dont seem to be receiving any mail using pc-pine. If I log onto pine using the old standard pine s/w, I can see my new mail messages, along with all of my old messages, address book, etc. Q. What do I need to do to be able to access my mail via pc-pine. Q. How do I copy my address book to my pc-pine address book? Thanks. Fred Breedlove fblove@u.washington.edu (206)685-3514 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:47:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA03798 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA18528 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:43:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA18524 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:43:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkvpG-00038YC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 09:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert Address Lists between Mail Programs Date: 13 Jan 1997 17:03:38 -0500 Message-ID: <5bebfq$qga@saltmine.radix.net> You can convert your mail address lists between Elm Pine Eudora Netscape Pegasus Database/Spreadsheet/Tabbed-ASCII all conversions are supported. Go to http://www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm also cc:Mail and Spry Mail to all of above. This is a free service. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Technical Web Service, Perl/CGI, E-mail address conversion service 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:47:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA03782 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA18511 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:42:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs-mail.bu.edu (ACS-MAIL.BU.EDU [128.197.153.100]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA18507 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:42:39 -0800 Received: from bu.edu (MED-PHYSIO11.BU.EDU [155.41.110.9]) by acs-mail.bu.edu (8.8.4/BU_Server-1.3) with SMTP id MAA61096; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:35:30 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:35:20 -0500 (EST) From: Gregor J Jones Reply-To: Gregor J Jones To: "Robin S. Socha" cc: Sankar Mukhopadhyay , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: regarding mailing a wordperfect document. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: | On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Sankar Mukhopadhyay wrote: | >> On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Kalpana Reddy Kothapally wrote: | >> > I would like to know as to how can I mail a word perfect document | >On 12 Jan 1997, Robert J Wilshe wrote: | 2. You ftp the file to where your mail account is. ... just my tuppenceworth here: make sure that the file is being ftp'd in binary mode! Usually, by default ftp is in ASCII mode. Unless you change it to binary, it will mangle a Wordperfect file. Type 'help' or 'status' at the ftp prompt to find out. Gregor __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Gregor J Jones Tel: 617-638-5336 (Lab) Department of Physiology 617-262-8205 (Home) Boston University School of Medicine Fax: 617-638-4273 Boston MA 02118 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:52:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA02750 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA15920 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:48:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA15916 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:48:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkvrY-00038WC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 09:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Rich Lafferty Subject: Re: Built-in text in compose message Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1997 16:37:29 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 13 Jan 1997, Matt Page wrote: > Everytime that I compose a message, this message appears in the message > text: > > Greetings New User! Your email address and a clever or insightful > quote or saying should be placed in this file before posting news > or sending mail. > > Everytime I have to delete it by line. Is there anyway that I can > permanently delete this text? Please e-mail me at mpage@asic.sc.ti.com > > Thank you, > Matt Page This appears to be a default .signature file left in your account by an overzealous, or at least relavitely tacky, admin. You can put your own sig in the .signature file, or just rm the file if you don't want to bother with a signature. Myself, I prefer to have a few, and ^R to read them into the bottom (as I have below). -Rich [posted and emailed] -- /* lafferty@cs.mcgill.ca Rich Lafferty */ float o=0.075,h=1.5,T,r,O,l,I;int _,L=80,s=3200;main(){for(;s%L|| (h-=o,T= -2),s;4 -(r=O*O)<(l=I*I)|++ _==L&&write(1,(--s%L?_ Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:02:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA04255 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:02:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA18959 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:58:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA18955 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 09:58:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkw12-00038WC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 09:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Charles Mott Subject: Remote rsh timeout Date: Tue, 7 Jan 1997 14:45:54 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Whenever I connect to my mail server, there is a long delay due to a "remote rsh timeout", followed by the username prompt. How can I avoid this delay? Charles Mott From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:17:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA04580 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:17:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA19376 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:13:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from jason01.u.washington.edu (jason01.u.washington.edu [140.142.70.24]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA19371 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:13:28 -0800 Received: from dante10.u.washington.edu (dante10.u.washington.edu [140.142.15.36]) by jason01.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA20552; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:09:37 -0800 Received: from localhost (noyd@localhost) by dante10.u.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA46584; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:13:27 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:13:27 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Jones To: "'Mike' M Ramey" cc: CAC- Pine-Info Email List Subject: Re: PINE DAMAGES 'NN' FOLDER FILES - DON'T DO IT !!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The "nn" man page says in describing its save files: Articles can optionally be saved in MAIL or MMDF compatible format by setting the mail-format and mmdf-format variables. These variables only specify the format used when creating a new folder, while appending to an existing folder will be done in the format of the folder (unless folder-format-check is false). If you use the "MAIL" format for your save files, there is a good chance that Pine will interact with the folder in a friendly way. Good Luck! -- Steven Jones Computing & Communications 354843, University of Washington E-mail: noyd@u.washington.edu Phone: (206) 543-5852 On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, 'Mike' M Ramey wrote: > And apparently the attempt to read an 'nn' folder with pine changes the > nn folder file, so that the next time you try to read it with nn, you > get the error message at the bottom of the screen: > Not a folder (no article header) > Apparently other nn folders in the same directory are not damaged. > > I have included below the top of the nn folder file _before_ and > _after_ the error message appeared in nn; I cannot see any difference > in these lines, but I know the error does occur and is reproducable! > > Any comments would be appreciated, in addition to "DON'T DO IT !!!" > Many thanks, -mr > > On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, 'Mike' M Ramey wrote: > > Documentation Only -- I sometimes use pine as a newsreader; my > > longtime newsreader has been 'nn'. When reading news with nn, I > > often 's'ave (or sh'o'rt-save) interesting messages into my 'nn' > > folders. Just now I configured the pine folder collections so that I > > could read these nn-saved messages with pine also. IT DOES NOT WORK. > > Apparently 'nn' mucks up the header information so pine can't sort > > out the individual messages; pine sees just one huge message. Rats! > > Sample header below. -mr > > > ---------- BEFORE THE ERROR MESSAGE ---------- > Path: news.u.washington.edu!server > ~From: "'Mike' M Ramey" > ~Newsgroups: uwash.comp.virus > ~Subject: FindVirus - what does "2.OLE" mean? Answer. > ~Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:50:49 -0800 (PST) > Organization: University of Washington > ~Lines: 101 > ~Sender: COMP-VIRUS-owner@u.washington.edu > Approved: comp-virus@u.washington.edu > Message-ID: > ~Reply-To: comp-virus@u.washington.edu > NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.u.washington.edu > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Precedence: first-class > Originator: server@lists.u.washington.edu > > When you run the FindVirus program, you may see a message like: > C:\DOCS\MYDOC.DOC\2.OLE identified as ... virus !!! > If you wonder what "2.OLE" means, read on. -mr > > > ---------- AFTER THE ERROR MESSAGE ---------- > Path: news.u.washington.edu!server > ~From: "'Mike' M Ramey" > ~Newsgroups: uwash.comp.virus > ~Subject: FindVirus - what does "2.OLE" mean? Answer. > ~Date: Wed, 11 Dec 1996 13:50:49 -0800 (PST) > Organization: University of Washington > ~Lines: 101 > ~Sender: COMP-VIRUS-owner@u.washington.edu > Approved: comp-virus@u.washington.edu > Message-ID: > ~Reply-To: comp-virus@u.washington.edu > NNTP-Posting-Host: lists.u.washington.edu > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Precedence: first-class > Originator: server@lists.u.washington.edu > > When you run the FindVirus program, you may see a message like: > C:\DOCS\MYDOC.DOC\2.OLE identified as ... virus !!! > If you wonder what "2.OLE" means, read on. -mr > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:50:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA05172 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA17493 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:44:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA17482 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:44:50 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 16 Jan 97 19:44:43 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id TAA00800; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:42:50 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:42:49 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: Gregor J Jones cc: Sankar Mukhopadhyay , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: regarding mailing a wordperfect document. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Gregor J Jones wrote: >On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > > | On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Sankar Mukhopadhyay wrote: > | >> On Sat, 11 Jan 1997, Kalpana Reddy Kothapally wrote: > | >> > I would like to know as to how can I mail a word perfect document > > | >On 12 Jan 1997, Robert J Wilshe wrote: > > | 2. You ftp the file to where your mail account is. > >... just my tuppenceworth here: make sure that the file is being ftp'd in ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >binary mode! Usually, by default ftp is in ASCII mode. Unless you change >it to binary, it will mangle a Wordperfect file. Type 'help' or 'status' >at the ftp prompt to find out. Speaking of which... make sure your ftp is intelligent enough to run auto >;-> Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:52:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA05254 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:52:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA17542 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:46:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from noc.noc.unam.mx (noc.noc.unam.mx [132.248.204.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA17538 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 10:46:44 -0800 Received: from noc.noc.unam.mx ([127.0.0.1]) by noc.noc.unam.mx (Netscape Mail Server v2.01) with SMTP id AAA22244 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:47:12 -0500 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 12:47:11 -0600 (CST) From: "Jorge H. Torres A." To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Core Dump with NscpMail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello PINErs I'm fine working with pine, but now, I'm using a Netscape Mail Server Ver. 2.0. I'm testing this server and it works better than sendmail ... but I compiled pine 3.95 whit GCC in a SPARCstation4 whit Solaris 2.5.1. The same that is running NscpMail (Netscape Mail Server). When I execute pine ... no problems, but when I want to send a message (ctrl-x), it makes a core dump locks my terminal. I though NscpMail was the cause of the SEGMENTATION FAULT: CORE DUMP. But I haved a version of pine 3.91 compiled with CC under Solaris 2.4 and I made a substitution. With this version of pine compiled under Solaris 2.4, it not makes core dump with NscpMail. I wondered if the patch released to pine 3.95 solve this problem ? Thanks for your attention. Greetings ! Atte. ______________________________________________________ Ing. Jorge H. Torres A Network Operation Center Jorge@noc.unam.mx R e d U N A M Tel.: 52-5 6228509 Subdireccion de Redes Fax : 52-5 6228588 DTD - DGSCA - UNAM E-Mail: Noc@unam.mx ______________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:04:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA05580 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:04:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA17881 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:00:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA17877 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:00:05 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA19761; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:00:01 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:00:01 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: thornes@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printing from Pine In-Reply-To: <5bk5c4$gki$1@news.sas.ab.ca> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On the Pine web page at www.washington.edu/pine there is a section titled "Additional Resources", and the first link under that is "Questions and answers about Pine..." Following that link, you'll see a section called "Usage Questions" and under that, a link labelled "Why doesn't 'attached-to-ansi' printing work?" This should help. The meta-answer is that: you can configure Pine so that "Y" attempts to print via any of several mechanisms. One of those is "attached-to-ansi" printing, which attempts to tell your PC/Mac communications software to use a locally attached printer. This only works if the PC or Mac comm software understands ansi printer escape sequences. Alas, many comm or telnet programs do not (including the Microsoft telnet that is bundled with Windows 95). Hope this helps... -teg On 16 Jan 1997 thornes@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: > On a similar note: > Our ISP uses PINE for their LYNX server mail. > When I started on this server, I was told that the prYnt command would > only print on a printer connected to the network server, NOT the users > personal computer. > > Now that I am a helpdesk volunteer, I have fielded many question from > people who say one of two things: > How can I print my email, or > I used to be able to use the Y command to print my email, and now I > cannot. > > I could never print MY mail, because at the time, my printer driver was > set for my modem for faxes, and since my modem was in use dialing into my > ISP, I couldn't print, BUT, my sisters computer printed email with no > problem, but my brother's computer would print part of a long message, > then get all garbled, then print more. > > I have asked our servers resident PINE expert, but he does not deem it > worthy to answer apparently, since it was about a month ago and I still > have not heard from him, and I have written washington U's pine support > people, who, probably because of the volume of email, have not had time to > answer, but refered me to their webpage, which contained no useful > information to this question. > > So, as a last resort, I now turn to the good people of the PINE usegroup. > What is it on PINE or on your system, that will allow you to unerringly > print email off your own printer connected to a server through a dialup > account? > > I REALLY would like to be able to tell the users SOMETHING other than, I > don't know, you shouldn't be able to do it anyway! > > TIA. > > Steve Thorne > > -- > > > > Ramblins courtesy of The Edge Magazine > http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~thornes > > WEATHER REPORT: > The confused ramblings of people who made > a career of guesswork and conjecture. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:07:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA05101 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:07:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA20529 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:03:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA20523 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:03:00 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA19828; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:02:57 -0800 Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:02:57 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Fred Breedlove cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: pcpine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Fred, Since properly configuring PC-Pine depends on the way the mail servers are setup at a particular site, this is a question you need to direct to your local support staff... in (y)our case "help@cac.washington.edu" -teg On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Fred Breedlove wrote: > I have been using the "standard" version of pine for some time > (successfully) and I just completed downloading & installing pc-pine 3.95. > > I can send mail (such as this message) successfully, but I dont seem to be > receiving any mail using pc-pine. If I log onto pine using the old > standard pine s/w, I can see my new mail messages, along with all of my > old messages, address book, etc. > > Q. What do I need to do to be able to access my mail via pc-pine. > > Q. How do I copy my address book to my pc-pine address book? > > > Thanks. > > Fred Breedlove > fblove@u.washington.edu (206)685-3514 > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:07:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA04917 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:07:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA17973 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:03:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA17967 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:03:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkx24-00038YC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 10:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: diab@acsu.buffalo.edu (Eamon Diab) Subject: Re: pine IMAP version connecting to IMAP4 Netscape Mail Server Date: 13 Jan 1997 19:51:50 GMT Message-ID: <5be3om$7cl@prometheus.acsu.buffalo.edu> References: <32D284DD.557B@acsu.buffalo.edu> Mark Crispin (mrc@CAC.Washington.EDU) wrote: : Any version of Pine should talk to any version of IMAP server. : The problem is that the IMAP server is closing the connection : unexpectedly. Without further information, it is hard to diagnose or : debug the problem. : What happens if you telnet to port 143 on the server? Well, you were right. The Netscape server was bound to a different port that the usual 143. The next problem we ran into was pine's inability to find the folders on the server to load them. We ended up with this project on the back burner for now. Thank for the help Mark, you did give us a clue. -Eamon -- _______________________________________________________________________________ Eamon Diab Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering Graduate Student State University of New York at Buffalo E-Mail: diab@eng.buffalo.edu Bell Hall, Rm: 251 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:13:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA05768 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:13:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA20637 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:08:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA20633 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:08:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkx86-00038YC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 11:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: E.Greshko@cdc.com Subject: Re: compuserv Date: 7 Jan 1997 23:25:40 GMT Message-ID: <5aum1k$rse@cdshub.cdc.com> References: <5avkfv$o67@news2.cpc.ku.ac.th> In article <5avkfv$o67@news2.cpc.ku.ac.th> b36nmt@nontri.ku.ac.th (Narumon Teeranuntachai (36056547)) wrote: > > hello > anyone knows how to send e-mail to @compuserve.com host? > because there is a comma in the recipient account so how should I > do ? I couldn't send it successful. :( Simply replace the comma with a period. Ed From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:49:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA06645 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:49:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA18794 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:43:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA18790 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:43:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vkxf5-00038ZC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 11:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Reply problems Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:00:57 GMT Message-ID: References: schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr (Jean Schuller): > When I send a mail with pine to my correspondant and he replyed with an > other mailer (like elm), I don't get this reply ?? and curiously, he don't > get an error message... What is wrong on my Pine ?? Well, it need not be your Pine or Pine as such. It could be anything - just like a lost parcel. You might as well test this by sending me a mail with your Pine and I will reply to it using ELM2.4PL25 - and I'm pretty sure it will work. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:03:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11246 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 15:03:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA26313 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:59:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA26309 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 14:59:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vl0iN-00038WC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 14:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rbraver@ohww.norman.ok.us Subject: cmsg cancel <5bhlbl$j6e@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Date: 15 Jan 1997 06:44:25 GMT Control: cancel <5bhlbl$j6e@news1-alterdial.uu.net> Message-ID: Spam cancelled. Notice ID: 19970115.01. See news.admin.net-abuse.announce or http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/spam_notices/19970115.01.html for complete report. Original Subject: A Special Offer! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 16:42:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA13736 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 16:42:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA26238 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 16:34:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA26231 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 16:34:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vl2Fv-00038WC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 16:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Stefan Kramer Subject: Pine - a Program for Internet News & Email Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 13:58:55 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Archive-name: mail/pine-faq Posting-Frequency: monthly URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/FAQs.html The most Frequently Asked Questions about Pine What documentation is available for Pine? The Pine program itself includes extensive internal, context-sensitive online help. Additional documentation, including a User's Guide, Technical Notes, Questions & Answers, and information on where to obtain the software, can be accessed: * In the Pine Information Center on the World Wide Web at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/ * Via anonymous FTP on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu in the subdirectory /pine/docs/. Here, you will find most of the documents from the Pine Information Center in plain-text form. + The Pine documents on the host ftp.cac.washington.edu can also be read from within Pine by defining a folder collection (from Pine's MAIN MENU, choose SETUP, Config; then move to folder-collections and choose Add Value) as: *{ftp.cac.washington.edu/anonymous}pine/docs/[] _________________________________________________________________ Who should I ask for help with Pine? If you need assistance with Pine, contact the technical support staff or computer help desk of your Internet Service Provider, school, university, employer -- whichever organization provided you with the email account on which you are using Pine. Due to the large number of Pine installations worldwide, the University of Washington cannot provide individual support services to Pine users. You may also be able to find the answer to your question through the Pine Discussion Forum -- see http://www.washington.edu/pine/pine-info/ * If you are posting a question to the Pine Discussion Forum but do not subscribe to it, request in your message that replies be sent directly to you, with a copy to the forum. (Conversely, if you are answering a question in the Pine Discussion Forum, be sure to include the inquirer's email address in your reply, since s/he may not be a subscriber and will otherwise not see your answer). _________________________________________________________________ Why does command X not work? Some of the Pine commands you may read or hear about have to be explicitly enabled in the SETUP CONFIGURATION menu, which is accessed from Pine's MAIN MENU, to be functional. For example, to be able to use the "Bounce" command, the following feature has to be checked: [X] enable-bounce-cmd and to be able to use the "Select"/"Apply" operations, you must first check: [X] enable-aggregate-command-set _________________________________________________________________ How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not perform delivery filtering; that is the function of other programs, such as (on Unix hosts) "procmail" or "mailagent." For details on selection and configuration of such programs, see the Filtering Mail FAQ (by Nancy McGough) at one of the following locations: ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/ faq.html ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt Once you have successfully set up your delivery filtering, you will have new mail arriving in several different folders, in addition to your INBOX. You can then access these folders just like any other mail folder. You can also define a collection of incoming message folders in Pine, through which you can then TAB to read new messages. For more information, see Pine's internal help on the enable-incoming-folders feature in Pine's SETUP CONFIGURATION menu. _________________________________________________________________ How do I define my own headers like Reply-To and Organization? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Config. Move down to the customized-hdrs option and read the context-sensitive help screen. _________________________________________________________________ Why does my message index show From: instead of To:? Applies to Pine for Unix only A number of Pine 3.95 users have reported seeing their own name, rather than the name of the recipient, in folder index listings of messages they have sent. This occurs when Pine detects the specific hostname of the computer on which it is running in the From: header. To avoid this from happening, set use-only-domain-name in Pine's SETUP CONFIGURATION menu to Yes; this strips the name of the specific host from your From: address. Alternatively, specify your domain name in user-domain (be sure you enter it correctly, otherwise all your outgoing messages will have an invalid return address! Ask your local computing support people if in doubt). When setting either of these options, also read the help screen for quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file to see whether you should enable that feature too. Administrators of systems where Pine exhibits this behavior should also check the /etc/hosts file for invalid entries; as an example, it should read: 123.456.78.90 hostname.domain hostname not just 123.456.78.90 hostname -- otherwise, users' setting of use-only-domain-name to Yes will not have the intended effect. _________________________________________________________________ How can I have a signature automatically appended to my mail messages? From Pine's MAIN MENU, choose Setup, then Signature. The text you enter in the SIGNATURE EDITOR (new in Pine 3.92) will be appended to all messages you compose. _________________________________________________________________ How do I send a message to multiple recipients without showing all their names? In Pine's message composer, with the cursor in the message headers area, press Ctrl-R ("rich headers"). Then read the context-sensitive help screens for the Bcc: and Lcc: fields. _________________________________________________________________ How can someone without Pine decipher an attachment to a message I send? Pine uses the MIME Internet standard for attaching files to email messages. Any MIME-capable mailer should be able to "understand" Pine's attachments. If the recipient of your message with attachment does not have MIME-capable email software, they should be able to save the attachment to a file and then decode that. One freely-available program which can decipher a MIME attachment is munpack from Carnegie Mellon. It is available at: ftp://ftp.andrew.cmu.edu/pub/mpack _________________________________________________________________ Can Pine be used with a POP server? As of version 3.95, PC-Pine cannot be used with a POP (Post Office Protocol) server. Pine for Unix can be configured to access the message INBOX on a POP3 server using the folder definition syntax {pop3server/pop3}INBOX where pop3server is the hostname of the POP3 server. However, this method accesses the POP server in quasi-online mode, not in offline mode, which POP was designed for. Accessing the inbox on a POP3 server with Pine does not preserve changes to message flags (New, Answered, Deleted, etc.) between sessions. As an alternative, a program such as fetchmail (which supercedes popclient) can be used to download email from a POP server to a local Unix account, where it can then be accessed with Pine. fetchmail can be obtained from: http://locke.ccil.org:80/~esr/esr-freeware.html#fetchmail Note: support for the offline mode of email access (using either POP or IMAP) is planned for a future release of Pine and PC-Pine. For a more detailed comparison of the POP and IMAP protocols, see Message Access Paradigms and Protocols at the URL: http://www.imap.org/imap.vs.pop.html _________________________________________________________________ End of Pine Frequently Asked Questions - more questions & answers about Pine can be found at the URL: http://www.washington.edu/pine/QandA/ or ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/docs/QandA.txt _________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:52:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA14856 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA27990 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:49:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA27984 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:49:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vl3Nu-00038YC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 17:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: How do I fix disk quota exceeded message? Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:36:18 GMT Message-ID: References: <5aumbn$s95@cdshub.cdc.com> nancym@ii.com (Nancy McGough): > E.Greshko@cdc.com writes: > >1. Delete files in the area noted as being over quota. > >2. Ask your sys admin to increase your quota. > 3. Compress some of your files using, e.g., gzip. 4. But a larger disk! ;-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:53:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA14895 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:53:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA00560 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:49:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA00553 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:49:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vl3Nf-00038WC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 17:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Change of permission of file #pico?????# Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:33:44 GMT Message-ID: References: <32D4F635.775E@elec.qmw.ac.uk> susanne@elec.qmw.ac.uk (Susanne Kalenka) [pine-3.93]: > I would like to change the 'default' permission of the #pico?????# file. > As the file is automatically created and the ????? changes depending on > the process number of pine, I don't have any idea how to change the > permission. Hmm, maybe your umask allows this? Mine is set to "066" - thus removing premissions "rw" for group and world. Maybe that's what your want?! Sven -- guckes@gauss:~>umask 066 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:09:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA15076 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:09:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA28285 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:05:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from outmail.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (x400link.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de [134.2.2.23]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA28246 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:03:36 -0800 Received: from mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de by outmail.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (4.1/ZDV-Uni-Tuebingen-1.0) id AA13381; Fri, 17 Jan 97 02:40:04 +0100 Received: from hp02.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de by mailserv.uni-tuebingen.de with SMTP (PP); Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:39:49 +0100 Received: by hp02.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA272465187; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:39:47 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:39:47 +0100 (MEZ) From: Damir Cacic To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ADRESSES Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Tuebingen-17-01-97 How to get more Adresses of other pine-users? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:02:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA14961 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:02:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA29137 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:59:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA29133 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:59:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vl4TQ-00038WC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 18:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: BinHex 4.0 Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:52:30 GMT Message-ID: References: <32DE0D6C.1CE3B5E2@stan.ch.pwr.wroc.pl> stanley@stan.ch.pwr.wroc.pl (Stanislaw Kucharski): > I am searching for BinHex 4.0 mail decoding program. I remember > that it was placed somewhere on a server of Washington University. Assuming this decoder should work on UNIX - use mcvert! Available as cmp/mcvert-216.shar in the nearest InfoMac mirror. Example: ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/mac/mirrors/info-mac/cmp/mcvert-216.shar Assuming you need a decoder for MacOS then you should use StuffItExpander: ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/mac/mirrors/mac.archive.umich.edu/00help/stuffitexpander4.01.sea.bin This is Berlin, *Germany*, btw. The Wall and all that. There may be a nearer InfoMac mirror for you, though. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:03:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA15806 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:03:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA01666 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:59:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA01662 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 18:59:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vl4Ti-00038YC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 18:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jcv@tiac.net (Jim Vienneau) Subject: How to stop CC:ing myself? Date: 15 Jan 1997 20:24:05 GMT Message-ID: <5bjed5$cv4@psnews.powersoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII I'm new to pine, so I apologize if this is a stupid question. When I send a message I seem to CC: myself (through the POP server). I don't see a setting for this. How can I turn it off? Thanks! -jim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:34:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA12042 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:34:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA02123 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:30:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA02113 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:29:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vl7nl-00038WC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 22:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tfth@j51.com (Dave Grossman) Subject: Re: Multiple Sigs. Message-ID: References: <5bk5kt$gki$2@news.sas.ab.ca> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 19:59:26 GMT : On 16 Jan 1997 thornes@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: : > Just asking about the possibilities. : > : > When I used to use BlueWave off-line reader, I had numerous tagline files : > for different usegroups, or to just randomly add one to my message. : > : > Is there anyway to set up a random .sig file in PINE? : > : > This way, I can write different things and have them appear randomly, or : > maybe pick and choose. Don't know about generating random .sigs... but if you just want to pick and choose, you could opt to not have a set .sig file, and at the end of each post/letter ^R (Read File) the file you want as your .sig that time. -Dave -- Dave Grossman (I'm home)| "Life's short... Geneseo State University| Play pinball" deg97@geneseo.edu | "It has to warm up, tfth@j51.com | SO IT CAN KILL YOU!" -TAF ----------------------------------------------------------------- WWW: http://www.j51.com/~tfth -- pinball, music, and more. London Pinball Directory: http://www.mdx.ac.uk/~dg076 ----------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:53:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA18304 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:53:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA04818 for pine-info-out; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:50:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA04814 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:50:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vl84W-00038WC; Thu, 16 Jan 97 22:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: pico editing: return doesn't give a new line Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:07:53 GMT Message-ID: References: cnm@mufasa.wt.k12.pa.us (Charles N May): > I'm running NCSA Telnet 2.6 on a Mac. Does it also happen with version 2.7b5 ? Look for ncsatelnet2.7b5.sit.hqx.gz on Umich mirrors! > Otherwise I'm stuck with "vi" - not my > favorite editor to teach novice users. Try VIM then! Unlimited undo, split windows, visual selection, command and search histort, command line editing, and lots more! Both available for UNIX, Macintosh, etc (see sig) Sven -- Sven Guckes@math.fu-berlin.de - VIM ("Vi IMproved") | Available for Amiga, VIM Latest version : VIM 4.5 - released on 961008 | Atari, DOS, Macintosh, VIM Pages: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/vim/ | OS/2, UNIX, VAX, VMS, VIM FAQ: http://www.grafnetix.com/~laurent/vim | Windows NT, Windows 95. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:08:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA18895 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:08:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA05768 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:01:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ns.ge.com (ns.ge.com [192.35.39.24]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA05762 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 00:01:30 -0800 Received: from thomas.ge.com (thomas.ge.com [3.47.28.21]) by ns.ge.com (8.8.4/8.7.3) with ESMTP id CAA19168 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:59:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from sw0401.appl.ge.com (sw0401.appl.ge.com [3.13.104.5]) by thomas.ge.com (8.8.4/8.7.5) with SMTP id DAA05695 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 03:02:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from aphpone (bomus1.appl.ge.com [3.67.232.4]) by sw0401.appl.ge.com (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id CAA02257 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:59:00 -0500 Received: from bomplant3 by aphpone with SMTP (1.37.109.4/16.2) id AA07067; Fri, 17 Jan 97 13:27:09 +0500 Received: by BOMAIL.APPL.GE.COM with Microsoft Mail id <32DFEE89@BOMAIL.APPL.GE.COM>; Fri, 17 Jan 97 13:26:33 PST From: "Mr. Vijay Raghavan" To: pine Subject: INFO REGARDING CONFIGURATION OF EMAIL WITH HP-UNIX 9000 SERIES Date: Fri, 17 Jan 97 12:59:00 PST Message-Id: <32DFEE89@BOMAIL.APPL.GE.COM> Encoding: 11 TEXT X-Mailer: Microsoft Mail V3.0 Please send me info regarding installation details of pine software with hp-unix 9000 series unix machines. My email address is g086vr@bomplant3.appl.ge.com Regards (V.VIJAY RAGHAVAN) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:01:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA19890 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 02:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA04939 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:55:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA04935 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 01:55:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlAwJ-00038WC; Fri, 17 Jan 97 01:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Using Character Sets in Pine Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 16:12:54 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 14 Jan 1997, Pau Gorostiza wrote: > > 2) is easy: just go into your personal configuration and set the > > character-set value to "ISO-8859-1" (note that iso-latin1-8859 probably > > does not exist); that way Pine will know that it has to deal with more > > than just US-ASCII characters. In the latest versions of Pine, there > > is also an option to try to use 8-bit transmission, so that Pine may > > not have to send out Quoted-Printable. > > I'm using Pine 3.93 on Linux 2.0.0. Do you mean these options in the > setup menu ? > ... > [ ] disable-keymenu > [X] enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation > [X] enable-8bit-nntp-posting > [ ] enable-aggregate-command-set > ... > > Are they OK like this ? I manage to send latin characters to other > individual users, but *not* through a listserver. I've been told I need > to send them in MIME format, can Pine do this ? I didn't find any > specific option... Messages sent by Pine are *always* in a MIME-compliant format. If the enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation feature is turned on, Pine will check to see if the SMTP server or sendmail program supports the 8BITMIME ESMTP extension. If it does, Pine will try to send the message with a content-transfer-encoding of 8bit, rather than quoted-printable. If the server does not support 8BITMIME or the message is not valid 8bit for some reason (e.g. a line over 1000 characters), Pine will fall back to quoted-printable or BASE64 even with the option set. On 16 Jan 1997, Rudolf Kompf wrote: > I think that most transmissions are not 8bit-clean, so that > enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation does'nt work. Then you should use > Mime-encoding (Pine does it for you). Even if Pine is able to negotiate 8bit transmission to your server, that does not mean your message will arrive 8bit encoded. Part of the 8BITMIME specification is a requirement that any intermediate gateway that cannot guarantee correct 8bit delivery must downgrade the message to Quoted-Printable (or BASE64). --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8740.04 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:28:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA21869 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:28:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA10450 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:20:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA10446 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 06:20:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlF74-00038WC; Fri, 17 Jan 97 06:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rnortman@xochi.tezcat.com (Randall C. Nortman) Subject: Need details on mailbox locking Date: 17 Jan 1997 03:42:58 GMT Message-ID: I'm writing a program which operates on mailboxes on a unix system (specifically, Solaris, but I want to make it portable). I'm concerned about file locking, since I don't really know that much about it, having learned programming on OS/2 where file locking is handled by the OS. I know that one can use the flock() call, and also that programs often create a file named FileToLock.lock, where "FileToLock" is replaced, of course, with the name of the file to lock. If I do both, however, I could get into deadlock with another program. (For example, I create file.lock and then try to flock(file). Another prog has already flock'ed(file), and is waiting for file.lock to disappear.) I'm particularly concerned with coexisting peacefully with Pine. So, if somebody can provide me with some details about this it would be very helpful. Sample code (preferably in C/C++ or Perl, but I know quite a few other langs as well) would be imminently useful. Or, simply pointing me to some good docs would be fine. (I've found the mail filtering FAQ and the Pine Q & A and tech-notes already, which were useful but didn't give enough detail.) TIA. Any help greatly appreciated. -- Randy Nortman rnortman@tezcat.com http://www.tezcat.com/~rnortman From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 07:58:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA23353 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 07:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA11560 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 07:43:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giga.sct.ub.es (giga.sct.ub.es [161.116.19.30]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA11556 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 07:43:08 -0800 Received: from giga.sct.ub.es (pow@giga.sct.ub.es [161.116.19.30]) by giga.sct.ub.es (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id QAA02237; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:39:00 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:39:00 +0100 (MET) From: Pau Gorostiza Reply-To: Pau Gorostiza To: Rudolf Kompf cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Character Sets in Pine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Rudolf Kompf wrote: > I think that most transmissions are not 8bit-clean, so that > enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation does'nt work. Then you should use > Mime-encoding (Pine does it for you). > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de Ok, I checked it and Pine does send in MIME. What I don't manage to do now is to use the charset=ISO-8859-1 neither the quoted-printable thing, as your headers show: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE I have selected it in the setup menu: character-set = iso-8859-1 editor = speller = composer-wrap-column = ... but it seems to make no difference: my heades are still US-ASCII: > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it enough to *write* "iso-8859-1" in the field or do I need a charset file or something in my Linux ? Sorry if that's a naive question... Thanx, Pau -- Pau Gorostiza pow@giga.sct.ub.es http://tam-tam.sct.ub.es Serveis Científico-Tècnics Universitat de Barcelona (34-3) 402-1349, 1352 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:09:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA23678 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:09:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA09645 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:00:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giga.sct.ub.es (giga.sct.ub.es [161.116.19.30]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA09638; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:00:42 -0800 Received: from giga.sct.ub.es (pow@giga.sct.ub.es [161.116.19.30]) by giga.sct.ub.es (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id QAA02294; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:57:25 +0100 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:57:25 +0100 (MET) From: Pau Gorostiza Reply-To: Pau Gorostiza To: David L Miller cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Character Sets in Pine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, David L Miller wrote: > Even if Pine is able to negotiate 8bit transmission to your server, > that does not mean your message will arrive 8bit encoded. Part of the > 8BITMIME specification is a requirement that any intermediate gateway > that cannot guarantee correct 8bit delivery must downgrade the message > to Quoted-Printable (or BASE64). Does that mean that I must (also) choose carefully my sendmail server in order to correctly send accents ? Then, how can I know whether a server is "8-bit" or not ? (Many thanx to everyone, this may not make much sense in English, but for me, writing Catalan without accents is a real pain...) Pau > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8740.04 -- Pau Gorostiza pow@giga.sct.ub.es http://tam-tam.sct.ub.es Serveis Científico-Tècnics Universitat de Barcelona (34-3) 402-1349, 1352 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:59:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA24725 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:59:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA12937 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:52:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from axp5.iie.org.mx (axp5.iie.org.mx [200.0.111.5]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA12930 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 08:51:46 -0800 Received: from g06682.iie.org.mx by axp5.iie.org.mx; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/10Jan97-1026AM) id AA30422; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 10:56:18 -0600 Message-Id: <32DF0636.22B4@iie.org.mx> Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 22:55:18 -0600 From: "Samuel Perez V." Reply-To: sperez@iie.org.mx Organization: Electrical Research Institute X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I need Information of PINE for OPEN VMS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to have information about PINE for open VMS to MVAX3100 server and the free software adresses about it. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:29:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA25786 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:29:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA11582 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:22:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ollie.clarku.edu (ollie.clarku.edu [140.232.1.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA11572 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 09:22:16 -0800 Received: from GOLD.clarku.edu by CLARKU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-5 #17161) with SMTP id <01IEBIDBQYR48Y6SJP@CLARKU.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:22:00 EST Received: by GOLD.clarku.edu; (5.65/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-0838AM) id AA21546; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:22:44 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:22:43 -0500 (EST) From: Deirdre Healy Staples Subject: address limits for distribution lists? In-reply-to: <32DF0636.22B4@iie.org.mx> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm downloading a list of about 600 email addresses, editing the file so that it's readable by Pine: NicknameTABFullnameTAB(email,email) When I download only 20 names - it works fine in Pine. As soon as I do the entire list of 600 - Pine will read the nickname and fullname - but as soon as I go to select the addresses, I get the error message "line too long." This leads me to believe that there is a limited amount of email addresses allowed for a distribution list in Pine? If this is true - does anyone know the magic number? If not - any other ideas? We're using Pine version 3.93 on DEC Unix. Thanks in advance! -Deirdre _________________________________ \___/ | Deirdre Healy Staples | \___/ *---________-o O- > Applications & Training | -O O-________ | ## \Y/ | Specialist < \Y/ ### |\_* | ____ #_ | | Clark University | | _ ___# | |/|/ |/|/ \ dhealy@clarku.edu / \|\| \|\| W W W W \ (508) 793-7695 / W W W W ----------------------------- || || \|/ \|/ \\||// \!/ \|/ \|/ \\||// \!/ \|/ \|/ \\||// \!/ "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." -Gandhi From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:10:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA28072 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:10:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA13963 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:05:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.jax-inter.net (jax-inter.net [204.254.251.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA13956 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:05:26 -0800 Received: from gordons.jax-inter.net (pm4-03.jax-inter.net [206.136.40.103]) by mail.jax-inter.net (8.6.9/8.6.9) with SMTP id OAA07878 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:05:22 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:05:22 -0500 Message-Id: <199701171905.OAA07878@mail.jax-inter.net> X-Sender: gordons@jax-inter.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gordon Spottswood Subject: my web page I would like to have my web page listed, please. http://www.jax-inter.net/spottswood I am a professional photographer in Jacksonville,Fl Business est 1915. I have been doing evidence/legal photography in and around Jax,Fl for 56 years. Two degrees from PPA="Q" and CPP/Qualified and Certified photographer Life member of Professional Photographers Society of North Fla. Received the Service Award from Fla Photographers.. If I may be of service to you please call: J. Gordon Spottswood 8349 San Clemente Dr. Jacksonville, Fl 32217-4418 Phone: 904-737-8700 Fax: 904-733-0100 E-Mail: gordons@jax-inter.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:37:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA29460 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:37:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA16722 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:31:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (terminal.autobahn.mb.ca [204.112.189.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA16717 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:31:07 -0800 Received: from localhost (toews@localhost) by terminal.autobahn.mb.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA12284 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:31:04 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:31:03 -0600 () From: Bruce Toews To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Line in my Message Headers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I get the following line in message headers I send out: X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs I never used to get this line until I switched to this Internet provider. Can someone tell me what this means? Thanks. Bruce From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:54:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA29814 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:54:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA17198 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:50:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA17194 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:50:17 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (dlm@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA15931; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:50:05 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:50:03 -0800 (PST) From: David L Miller To: Pau Gorostiza cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Character Sets in Pine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Pau Gorostiza wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, David L Miller wrote: > > > Even if Pine is able to negotiate 8bit transmission to your server, > > that does not mean your message will arrive 8bit encoded. Part of the > > 8BITMIME specification is a requirement that any intermediate gateway > > that cannot guarantee correct 8bit delivery must downgrade the message > > to Quoted-Printable (or BASE64). > > Does that mean that I must (also) choose carefully my sendmail server in > order to correctly send accents ? Then, how can I know whether a server is > "8-bit" or not ? If you turn on verbose mode for sending, you should see something like the following if your server supports 8BITMIME: 050 ... Connecting to mx2.cac.washington.edu. via smtp... 050 220 mx2.cac.washington.edu ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:44:10 -0800 050 >>> EHLO shiva1.cac.washington.edu 050 250-mx2.cac.washington.edu Hello shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201], pleased to meet you 050 250-EXPN 050 250-VERB 050 250-8BITMIME 050 250-SIZE 050 250-DSN 050 250-ONEX 050 250-ETRN 050 250-XUSR 050 250 HELP But the recipient of the message also needs to be recieving mail via a server that understands 8BITMIME. Further, any intermediate servers the message passes through must also support 8BITMIME for the message to be delivered in 8bit encoding. You can tell what servers a message has passed through by turning on full headers and looking at the Recieved: headers. Good luck! --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8744.13 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:57:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA29876 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:57:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA14943 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:51:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA14939 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:51:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlKFy-00038TC; Fri, 17 Jan 97 11:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: vim - reformatting text and mapping pico commands Date: 16 Jan 1997 14:35:47 GMT Message-ID: References: <32D26BAF.1E28@intermicro.com> <5ave4v$shm@fridge-nf0.shore.net> nancym@ii.com (Nancy McGough): > A couple people sent me mail suggesting vim, > which has a built-in paragraph-justify thing. Can't live without it anymore! Examples: Q) Reformat unto end-of-sentence Qp Reformat current paragraph QG Reformat until end-of-buffer Q'a Reformat unto line marked with 'a' Note: Reformatting with Q preserves "quoted text" - even with multiple quotes: > > > This > > > is an > > > example > > This is another > > example > One more > time Use "Qp" on this paragraph and it turns into this: > > > This is an example > > This is another example > One more time Quote prefixes can be customized via the variables "comments". Example: set comments=n:>,n:) This defines the characters > and ) for "nested comments", ie the can be a "prefix". Example: > This > is an > example : This is another : example Using "Qp" turns this into: > This is an example : This is another example Cool, eh? :-) > I'll try it but I'm wondering how GUI the Windows 3.x and 95 > versions are - can you cut and paste and use the scroll bar? I avoid Windows, so I don't know. But Mr VimWin should know: George V. Reilly http://www.halcyon.com/gvr/vim.html > Also, what I really want is something that has all the > above features that normal people (non-vi people) can use. Anyone using vi is not considered normal by non-vi people. ;-) > Right now I set people up with pico but then when I try to do something for > them, I usually create a mess because I start typing things like `ESC jjj' > to move around. Well, maybe you need pico keys for movement in vim? Here they are: key keyword jump to ... vim mapping (command mode) ^A anfang begin-of-line :nmap 0 ^E end end-of-line :nmap $ ^B back previous-char :nmap h ^F forward next-char :nmap l ^N next next-line :nmap j ^P previous previous-line :nmap k ^V vertical down-screen :nmap ^Y y-up ;-) up-screen :nmap Note: You can copy and paste these commands right from the screen into your vimrc. Of course you can also map these commands for insert mode preceding each definition by the command ^O which jumps into command mode for one command then returning to insert mode. The downside of this is that you will thus lose all the extra commands that are already mapped to these keys by default. Sven -- Sven Guckes@math.fu-berlin.de - VIM ("Vi IMproved") | Available for Amiga, VIM Latest version : VIM 4.5 - released on 961008 | Atari, DOS, Macintosh, VIM Pages: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/vim/ | OS/2, UNIX, VAX, VMS, VIM FAQ: http://www.grafnetix.com/~laurent/vim | Windows NT, Windows 95. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:23:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA16922 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:23:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA17965 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:19:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA17961 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:19:11 -0800 Received: (from scoile@localhost) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id PAA13847; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:02:59 -0500 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:02:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: Bruce Toews cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Line in my Message Headers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Bruce Toews wrote: > I get the following line in message headers I send out: > > X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs > > I never used to get this line until I switched to this Internet provider. > Can someone tell me what this means? Thanks. It means you have annoying escape sequences in your personal name. -S From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:32:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA30662 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:32:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA18183 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:26:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA18179 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 12:26:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlKoo-00038VC; Fri, 17 Jan 97 12:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Deepak Thadani Subject: HUGE PINE 3.91 PROBLEM...HELP! Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1997 23:20:36 -0500 Message-ID: <32DDAC94.6CC3@pcsltd.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, We have a SCO UNIX 3.2r4.2 system on which I placed PINE. Everything seems like it's working but upon Composing a message, I get the following error while Writing Fcc: No Valid Author Present. And the email never goes out to the UNIX machine. I can't even send email to local users ... If you have any ideas/clues, please let me know. Deepak. Thanks in advance. deepak@pcsltd.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:22:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA27540 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:22:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA19624 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:16:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from navl.com (navl.com [38.228.219.130]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA19611 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:15:59 -0800 Received: from localhost by rs1 (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA179890; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:19:23 -0600 X-Nvlenv-01Date-Transferred: 17-Jan-1997 16:18:10 -0500; at DMZL1.NAVL X-Nvlenv-01Date-Posted: 17-Jan-1997 16:18:10 -0500; at DMZL1.NAVL Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:19:22 -0600 (CST) From: DJ Farrell X-Sender: lsysdjf@rs1 To: pine q&a Subject: Restricted Directory/ispell and /tmp files Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The probem: Ispell/spell deletes the content of a message after spell check. We turned off Ispell/spell. We restricted users to their home directories ( =~ ). Ispell/spell will write a temporary pico file to /tmp/pico .. but pine cannot write back because of the home directory restriction. Can we keep the restriction and use spelling? Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:52:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA26594 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:52:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA18013 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:46:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA18006 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:46:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlM7S-00038VC; Fri, 17 Jan 97 13:46 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jesse Subject: change Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 02:02:09 +0800 Message-ID: References: <5bjed5$cv4@psnews.powersoft.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5bjed5$cv4@psnews.powersoft.com> J: just want to find out if anyone can tell me how to change the below to your own preference? like u want to put "i see whoever writing this in the newsgroup:" how to u achieve this? could someone please tell me? Jesse On 15 Jan 1997, Jim Vienneau wrote: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:00:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA32688 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 14:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA20630 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:56:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA20626 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:56:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlMGs-00038TC; Fri, 17 Jan 97 13:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: Installing IMAPd problem? Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 13:47:25 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: I checked at avant.avant.com.tw and it doesn't have a running IMAP server. Here's a checklist: 1) Since you are running SUN systems, did you remember to add the imap server into NIS (a.k.a. Yellow Pages)? 2) Was the line that you entered into inetd.conf consistant with other entries? Not all inetd implementations take the same format of arguments in their inetd.conf file. 3) Did you remember to restart inetd? On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Michael B. F. Wu wrote: > I followed the guidelines of "tech-note.txt" from pine 3.95 release to > install the IMAP server on our mail server (Sun Sparc-2 SunOS 4.1.3) and > use pine 3.95 on my machine (Sun Ultra-Sparc1 Solaris 2.5.1) to read my > mailbox in mail server, it didn't work. I only set the inbox-path of > ~/.pinerc to "{avant.avant.com.tw}inbox" to point out the location of my > mailbox. I got the follwing error messages in ~/.pine-debug1 file. > > IMAP mm_notify bye : {avant.avant.com.tw}inbox : IMAP connection broken > (server response) > > IMAP 12:45:36 1/17 mm_log ERROR: [CLOSED] IMAP connection broken (server > response) > > For IMAPd server installation, I setup the following 3 things: > > 1. Copy imapd to /usr/etc. > 2. add "imap 143/tcp #Mail transfer" in /etc/services > 3. add "imap stream tcp nowait root /usr/etc/imapd imapd" in > /etc/inetd.conf > > Please advise! > > Best Regards, > > Michael B. F. Wu > > -------------------------------------------------- > Michael B. F. Wu Tel: 886-3-578-4252 > michael@avant.com.tw Fax: 886-3-578-4253 > Avant Technology Inc. > -------------------------------------------------- > > > -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:48:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA01777 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:48:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA23475 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:41:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA23471 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:41:25 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 07:40:41 +0800 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 07:40:41 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Bruce Toews cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Line in my Message Headers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Bruce Toews wrote: > I get the following line in message headers I send out: > > X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs > > I never used to get this line until I switched to this Internet provider. It means you should call your new Internet provider and ask them. When you see a line that starts with X- or x- it means it is "non-standard" and the chances that anyone other than the people who invented will know the true meaning is small. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:56:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA02654 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:56:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA21222 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:52:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA21218 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 15:52:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlO13-00038WC; Fri, 17 Jan 97 15:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stranger Subject: Question Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:08:38 -0500 Message-ID: <32DED116.6872@umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have two folder collections; one is on the local machine and another one is on the remote IMAP server. How do I copy all the folders from the IMAP server to my local machine? Thank you! --- Wen-Lan Wang From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:00:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA05310 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA27123 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:57:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA27119 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:57:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlQwu-00038TC; Fri, 17 Jan 97 18:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: pico - where to get info about the latest version Date: 15 Jan 1997 19:20:16 GMT Message-ID: I was looking for the latest version of pico but didn't want to download the distribution of pine - so I looked at http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/ . The page says that Pico is a trademark of the University of Washington - but there is *no* special info about Pico at all! :-( So - what is the latest version of pico and when was it released? I post here as I am not sure whom to contact. Well, the man page to pico-2.8 says about "Authors": Michael Seibel Laurence Lundblade Is it ok to bug them with questions? Suggestions for the Pine Home Page, the "availability" page and the Pine FAQ: Add the latest version number of pico. Add the release dates of both pico and pine. Add a date stamp to the page. Add a mailto link to the maintainer of the pages (to every page). Add a file to ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail with info about latest versions. Please make it more easy to look up this kind of information! Something like http://www.washington.edu/pine/changes/ for pico would be nice. Thank you! :-) While I'm at it: A one suggestion for both pico and pine: It would be nice if they identified with option "-v" or "--version". Sven PS: I am currently unsubscribed to comp.mail.pine - so I am asking for email copies of followups. Thanks! -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [who rather uses vim than pico] PICO Info and Tips: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pico/ [961120] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:01:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA05340 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:00:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA24721 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:57:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA24717 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 18:57:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlQwu-00038VC; Fri, 17 Jan 97 18:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Building/installing to Sunos5.5.1 Date: 16 Jan 1997 04:58:00 GMT Message-ID: <5bkcgo$ok$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: <32CDA191.B05@groton.pfizer.com> parkh@groton.pfizer.com (hp) writes: >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >--------------594771FC3BAB >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit >I am trying to install PINE and PICO on a SunOS5.5.1 platform >run on sparcserver 1000e machines. >First I run "build clean" >Then I run "build sun" with the results below. Can someone tell >me what is going wrong? It gives me Error 1 and Error 2 >saying some files aren't there. Read the instructions. You are using the wrong target. -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:12:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA05466 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:12:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA27282 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:09:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from freenet.hamilton.on.ca (main.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA27278 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:09:05 -0800 Received: from james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca [199.212.94.66]) by freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id WAA06386; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (ae986@localhost) by james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id WAA12865; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:11:22 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: james.freenet.hamilton.on.ca: ae986 owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:11:20 -0500 (EST) From: mspence To: "Robin S. Socha" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine-"you have new mail" message problem (fwd) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII pc NextPage U Undelete F Forward m On Wed, 15 Jan 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > On 10 Jan 1997, Mavis Spence wrote: > > > >Me Too!! > > Congratulations... > > For sending the first totally uncut forwarded message with the "important" > part buried beneath heaps of signature files and the "message" saying Me Too > _with_ two exclamation mark, you are hereby awarded the AOL-medal h.c. > May your inbox be full of spam forever... >;-> So sorry, Robin. I will slap myself and try to do better. I am new at this, give me a break. :-) BTW what is the 'AOL-medal h.c? Mavis. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:59:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA05734 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:59:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA27799 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:52:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA27795 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 19:52:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlRnL-00038WC; Fri, 17 Jan 97 19:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Alexey Egorov Subject: Pine vs. Netscape/Elm Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 04:10:06 +0300 Message-ID: <32E022EE.3133D801@inm.ras.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I usually use Netscape's built-in mailer or Elm + fetchpop. Too many peoples say that Pine is the best. I have tryied the Pine, and failed to fugure out what pine can do, but, say, Netscape cannot. Thank you, Alexey From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:47:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA06165 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:47:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA25889 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:42:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA25885 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 20:42:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlSYV-00038TC; Fri, 17 Jan 97 20:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: greenleaf Subject: Help Required Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 13:01:28 +0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Suppose we have two logins: login "A" and login "B". At login "A" we have created ".forward" file which will forward messages from "A" to "B". When any message is mailed to "A" it forwards to "B" (well this works perfectly) in this process the message from "A" is deleted. Message appears only at "B". We want a way through which the message also stays at "A" & also forwards to "B". Is there any configuration in Pine which we will help us to do so. Any help will be highly appreciated. Thank's in advance. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:25:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA06420 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:25:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA28835 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:21:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA28831 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:21:07 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA28717; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:20:56 -0800 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 21:20:55 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Alexey Egorov cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine vs. Netscape/Elm In-Reply-To: <32E022EE.3133D801@inm.ras.ru> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Take a look at Pine's configuration screen (Setup/Config from the Main menu), and go through the list of options. How many of them have equivalents in Netscape mail? -teg On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Alexey Egorov wrote: > Hi, > > I usually use Netscape's built-in mailer > or Elm + fetchpop. > > Too many peoples say that Pine is the best. > I have tryied the Pine, and failed to fugure out > what pine can do, but, say, Netscape cannot. > > Thank you, > Alexey > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:41:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA06965 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:41:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA27205 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:36:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA27201 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 22:35:56 -0800 Received: from hobbes.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:35:15 +0800 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:29:32 +0800 (GMT) From: Ed Greshko To: Alexey Egorov cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine vs. Netscape/Elm In-Reply-To: <32E022EE.3133D801@inm.ras.ru> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Alexey Egorov wrote: > Hi, > > I usually use Netscape's built-in mailer > or Elm + fetchpop. > > Too many peoples say that Pine is the best. > I have tryied the Pine, and failed to fugure out > what pine can do, but, say, Netscape cannot. Pine can generate *legal* MIME and headers! Netscrape, has this wonderful ability to put 8bit data (un-encoded) in the headers! Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:01:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA07634 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA28139 for pine-info-out; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:57:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA28135 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 23:57:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlVa8-00038VC; Fri, 17 Jan 97 23:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Nathan C. Burnett" Subject: Re: Untitled Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 00:58:29 -0700 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 13 Jan 1997, Joan T. Wynne wrote: > I'm a user through Georgia State University in Atlanta Georgia. I haven't > received any of my e-mails today. I have been able to send e-mails and I > have learned via the telephone that they have been received; yet I haven't > received any of the ones people has said they have sent me today. Can you > help me out? Or tell me how to discover what the problem is? > There are several reasons why this could be happening. None of which involve the pine mailer. You need to contact your system administrator. Nate --- Nathan C. Burnett nate@acm.org ENMU Systems Administrator http://wwwstd.enmu.edu/burnettn/ PGP Key: http://wwwstd.enmu.edu/burnettn/pgpkey.txt "A faithful friend is the medicine of life." Ecclesiasticus 6:16 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:32:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA07437 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:32:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA01098 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:28:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA01094 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 00:27:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlW79-00038VC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 00:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: Remote rsh timeout Date: 15 Jan 1997 06:18:48 GMT Message-ID: References: On 14 Jan 1997 01:52:18 -0800, Mike Brudenell wrote: >On 11 Jan 1997, Sylvain Robitaille wrote: >> >> Add your username to the remote inbox definition: >> >> {host/user=userid}inbox > >Not quite: the minimal solution to avoid the long delay due to the "remote >rsh timeout" is to add the port number to the end of the hostname: > > {host.site.domain:143}inbox > >This will then prompt you to supply your username and password as usual, >but without the long delay. This is because by supplying a port number >you are telling Pine (actually the underlying C-client library) to bypass >the rsh mechanism. Ok, but then this assumes that imapd nust be listening to port 143, right? In most cases this will be ok, but there's bound to be the odd one... -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi Two can Live as Cheaply as One for Half as Long. -- Howard Kandel ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 03:31:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA09081 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 03:31:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA03033 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 03:27:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA03029 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 03:26:57 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 18 Jan 97 12:26:50 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id LAA05955 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 11:33:28 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 11:33:25 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: pine user-list Subject: Re: Pine vs. Netscape/Elm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Terry Gray wrote: >Take a look at Pine's configuration screen (Setup/Config from the Main >menu), and go through the list of options. How many of them have >equivalents in Netscape mail? Let's not forget the fact that there aren't any anti-pine recipes for procmail around... >:-> Have a nice weekend, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:59:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA01469 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 13:59:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA06148 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 11:35:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giga.sct.ub.es (giga.sct.ub.es [161.116.19.30]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA06144; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 11:35:13 -0800 Received: from giga.sct.ub.es (pow@giga.sct.ub.es [161.116.19.30]) by giga.sct.ub.es (8.8.0/8.8.0) with ESMTP id UAA05028; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:31:51 +0100 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:31:51 +0100 (MET) From: Pau Gorostiza Reply-To: Pau Gorostiza To: David L Miller cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Using Character Sets in Pine In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, David L Miller wrote: > > Does that mean that I must (also) choose carefully my sendmail server in > > order to correctly send accents ? Then, how can I know whether a server is > > "8-bit" or not ? > > If you turn on verbose mode for sending, you should see something like > the following if your server supports 8BITMIME: > > 050 ... Connecting to mx2.cac.washington.edu. via smtp... > 050 220 mx2.cac.washington.edu ESMTP Sendmail 8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12; Fri, 17 Jan 1997 11:44:10 -0800 > 050 >>> EHLO shiva1.cac.washington.edu > 050 250-mx2.cac.washington.edu Hello shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201], pleased to meet you > 050 250-EXPN > 050 250-VERB > 050 250-8BITMIME > 050 250-SIZE > 050 250-DSN > 050 250-ONEX > 050 250-ETRN > 050 250-XUSR > 050 250 HELP Here's what I get when I write from pow@giga.sct.ub.es to my friend Oscar: 050 ... Connecting to fareb1.am.ub.es. via esmtp... 050 220 fareb1.am.ub.es Sendmail AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03 ready at Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:52:16 +0100 050 >>> EHLO giga.sct.ub.es 050 500 The command is not known. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 050 >>> HELO giga.sct.ub.es 050 250 fareb1.am.ub.es Hello giga.sct.ub.es 050 >>> MAIL From: 050 250 ... Sender is valid. 050 >>> RCPT To: 050 250 ... Recipient is valid. 050 >>> DATA 050 354 Enter mail. End with the . character on a line by itself. 050 >>> . 050 250 Ok 050 ... Sent (Ok) 050 Closing connection to fareb1.am.ub.es. 050 >>> QUIT 050 221 fareb1.am.ub.es: closing the connection. Seems to me that after failing (is that EHLO a "HELLO in 8-bit" ?), Pine uses the old protocol. The problem is then in my server, Giga ? I guess I can change it in the Pine "SMTP server" option... Or does it mean that I just *can't* send accentuated (8-bit) stuff ?? Thanks again, Pau > --DLM > > -- > |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 > |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) > University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 > 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8744.13 ________________________________________________________________________ | | | Pau Gorostiza Universitat de Barcelona | | pow@giga.sct.ub.es Serveis Científico-Tècnics | | http://tam-tam.sct.ub.es (34-3) 402-1349, 1352 | |________________________________________________________________________| From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:06:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (li.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA00933 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 10:51:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA08111 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 10:47:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ritsec3.com.eg (RITSEC3.COM.EG [163.121.2.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA08107 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 10:47:27 -0800 Received: from localhost by ritsec3.com.eg (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id UAA23272; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:47:26 -0200 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:47:25 -0200 (GMT) From: "F.Bishara" To: TO THE PINE ADMINISTRATION Subject: HOW CAN I USE THE REPLY PRIVILEGE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear sir, I would like to know how can i use the reply mode tha can help me to not let down those who send me when i am away. thank you in advance Mary Bishara From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:07:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (li.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA32519 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:07:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA06759 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:04:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA06755 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:03:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vle6t-00038VC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 08:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: pine3.95 arrow keys for MacX? Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:52:43 GMT Message-ID: References: <852745409.769997@gw.va.wagner.com> jmd@va.wagner.com (Jeff Douglass): > how to make pine/pico recognize the arrow keys with a PowerMac running MacX? It's a secret! http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~leitner/CnH/secret.html > I have fired off pine 3.95 in a xterm but the arrow keys do not function. Why not get used to key commands? ^A|^E, ^B|^F, ^N|^P, ^V|^Y ! Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [who rather uses vim than pico] PICO Info and Tips: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pico/ [961120] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:07:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (li.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA32461 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:07:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA06765 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:04:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA06761 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:04:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vle71-00038XC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 08:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ae001@rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Udo Keller) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 Patch #1 now available Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:54:34 GMT Message-ID: <5blq0q$a6g@news.rrz.uni-koeln.de> References: Martin, Martin Struwe (struwe@cs.uni-sb.de) wrote: : : This patch-file doesn't work on three different systems. Can you help me? I tried the Solaris 2.5(.1) /usr/bin/patch, it does not work. But using GNU patch 2.1 on a SunOS-4.1 machine worked fine. Cheers, Udo -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Udo Keller Theoret.Biol.Dept. Cologne University Weyertal 119 D-50923 Cologne email: ae001@rrz.uni-koeln.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:07:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (li.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA32548 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:07:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA04240 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:04:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA04236 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 09:04:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vle6u-00038WC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 08:59 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: print from pico Date: 16 Jan 1997 18:28:52 GMT Message-ID: References: <32CBD9BB.68E9@intermicro.com> eric@intermicro.com (Eric Wood) [Pine-3.95 and Pico-2.9]: > I have set up Pico as an external editor and I can ^_ to use Pico. > What I would like to do is use Pico as an external editor from the main menu > of Pine. I also want to be able to print from Pico to a system printer. > Pico would be a great word processor if I could choose a printer. Pico is a "simple editor" - not a "word processor". If you want a word processor then use one! ;-) > Any suggestions? (1) Save file, print file from shell. (2) Use a better (non-simple) editor. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:08:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (li.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA31804 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 07:32:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA03245 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 07:28:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA03241 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 07:28:46 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlcgU-00038VC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 07:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Pedro" Subject: Can't Resize Free Space error Date: 17 Jan 1997 02:05:07 GMT Message-ID: <01bc041a$e2abc520$bd0841c2@nop47386> When trying to send an e-mail with a big attachment (about 14 Mb), pine finished with the message "Bug in pine. Can't resize free space. Pine finished". Does anyone know what happened? Is there a workaround or a patch to fix this? By the way, is there a FAQ for this newsgroup? Thanks pviegas@mail.telepac.pt From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:08:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (li.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA24391 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 05:38:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA04582 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 05:35:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA04578 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 05:35:22 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 18 Jan 97 14:35:15 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA07337 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:08:48 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:08:47 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: pine user-list Subject: Re: Pine kill file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 16 Jan 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: >> Is it possible to create a kill file in Pine >> to filter all posts from foo@bar.com >Use a mail filter to remove incoming mail. >No, pine is not a mail filter. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Maybe there should be a notice the first time pine pops up, saying exactly that... >;-> [snip] And here's a little more from Pine's QandA: How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not perform delivery filtering; that is the function of other programs, such as (on Unix hosts) "procmail" or "mailagent." For details on selection and configuration of such programs, see the Filtering Mail FAQ (by Nancy McGough) at one of the following locations: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/ faq.html http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq Have a nice weekend, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:08:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (li.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA26780 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 04:33:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA03883 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 04:28:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA03877 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 04:28:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlZrc-00038WC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 04:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: help Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:11:08 GMT Message-ID: References: <199701121621.VAA06309@protocol.ece.iisc.ernet.in> basker@protocol.ece.iisc.ernet.in (P.Basker): > help "You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike." Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:08:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (li.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA30819 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 04:33:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA01366 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 04:28:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA01362 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 04:28:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlZrb-00038VC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 04:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Pine kill file Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:58:07 GMT Message-ID: References: <32DD13C2.34F0@brain.syh.fi> mats@brain.syh.fi (Mats Andersson): > Is it possible to create a kill file in Pine > to filter all posts from foo@bar.com Use a mail filter to remove incoming mail. No, pine is not a mail filter. For deleting mail from a given address ELM's filter will do: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.filter.html You need to set up this kind of filter rule: if (from = user@main) then delete But if you need to get fancy then you should use procmail! Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:08:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (li.u.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA30592 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 04:33:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA03889 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 04:28:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA03885 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 04:28:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlZrg-00038YC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 04:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wstewart@flash.net (Bill Stewart) Subject: Re: Pine and PC, need pop solution Date: Thu, 16 Jan 97 06:32:12 GMT Message-ID: <5bki1j$les$1@excalibur.flash.net> References: <5bgiqj$2dv@news.istar.ca> Tariq Ahmed wrote: > Hi. Of course we all know, pine rules. Where I am now, I only have a PC, > but PC-Pine doesn't support pop, and there's no access to mount my mail > dir from the PC. So I need some kind of pop client utility that can > periodically download my files. Any suggestions? I had to do the same (my new ISP doesn't support IMAP). Try Pegasus Mail (http://www.pegasus.usa.com/). I use it now and am quite happy with it. ------------------------------- Bill Stewart wstewart@flash.net http://www.flash.net/~wstewart/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 14:08:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (li.u.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA30824 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 04:33:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA01372 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 04:28:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA01368 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 04:28:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlZrg-00038XC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 04:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: vi keystrokes to move around? Date: 16 Jan 1997 17:15:19 GMT Message-ID: References: <5b7oj1$9ns@crl12.crl.com> oak@crl.com (Tony Gonzalez): > Is there any way to get pine to emulate vi like keystrokes for > moving around the index's? i.e., "j" for down "i" for up, etc. This would require two things: First, make it a mode editor, ie know about the difference whether a key is meant to be a command or input to the text, and second, allow key binding. Both these things are considered non-intuitive and thus is a contradiction to pico being a "simple editor". In short: Forget it! Why don't you just switch the editor over to vi? Sven [who prefers vim over vi] -- Sven Guckes@math.fu-berlin.de - VIM ("Vi IMproved") | Available for Amiga, VIM Latest version : VIM 4.5 - released on 961008 | Atari, DOS, Macintosh, VIM Pages: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/vim/ | OS/2, UNIX, VAX, VMS, VIM FAQ: http://www.grafnetix.com/~laurent/vim | Windows NT, Windows 95. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:18:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA02688 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:18:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA11402 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:14:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11395 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:13:58 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (hubert@localhost) by shiva1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA14703; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:13:53 -0800 Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:13:53 -0800 (PST) From: Steve Hubert Reply-To: Steve Hubert To: Helmer Aslaksen cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Manually sort address book In-Reply-To: <5b4cok$r6b@nuscc.nus.sg> Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing and Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There's a config option to not sort your address book, so you could sort it externally and then pine won't re-sort. That's all the support there is for this. Steve Hubert Networks and Distributed Computing, Univ. of Washington, Seattle On 10 Jan 1997, Helmer Aslaksen wrote: > I've just switched from elm to pine. Under elm, I used to manually > sort my adr book by country etc. I found this convenient. Is there any > way to do that under pine? > > -- > Helmer ASLAKSEN > Department of Mathematics > National University of Singapore > Singapore 119260 > Republic of Singapore > aslaksen@math.nus.sg > http://www.math.nus.sg/aslaksen/ > phone: +65 772-2746 > fax: +65 779-5452 > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:23:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA02735 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA09010 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:19:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA09006 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:19:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlk1e-00038YC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 15:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Eilman Subject: Help with Global settings Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 11:57:56 -0800 Message-ID: <32DE8844.35BD@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am relatively new with Pine, and I am trying to set up all of my users to have the same alias files, distribution lists, configuration of printers, etc. Is there a simple way to do this? Also, how do I set up distribution lists at all. Help is apprecitated, thanks. Mike From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:44:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA02894 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:44:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA11663 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:39:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA11659 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 15:39:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlkLW-00038XC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 15:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: IMAP and Netscape 4 Beta. Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 00:46:31 -0800 Message-ID: References: <32D304F8.45EA@lgx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32D304F8.45EA@lgx.com> On Tue, 7 Jan 1997, William C Bonner wrote: > I'm running the IMAP server that is in the Pine 3.5 distribution. I've > attempted to connect to it via the Netscape 4 Beta. I've gotten error > messages, and it doesn't seeem to be able to get a list of messages. > > I was wondering if anyone had been successful using (or testing) > Netscape 4 with this IMAP server. I've used the Imap server from > another linux box running PINE, so I think that it is set up correctly. > > Is the IMAP server in the Pine distribution a full IMAP implementation? The IMAP server in the Pine 3.95 distribution is at IMAP2bis level. You probably need an IMAP4rev1 level server for Netscape. Sources for our IMAP4rev1 server are: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z Pine 4.00 will be distributed using this version. Pine 3.95 works fine using the IMAP4rev1 server; for the most part it is upwards-compatible from IMAP2bis. -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:18:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA03138 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:18:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA09634 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:14:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA09630 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:14:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlktm-00038XC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 16:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: grenleaf@bom2.vsnl.net.in Date: Thu, 09 Jan 1997 03:21:04 -0600 Subject: Help !!! Message-ID: <852800194.30954@dejanews.com> Suppose we have two logins: login "A" and login "B". At login "A" we have created ".forward" file which will forward messages from "A" to "B". When any message is mailed to "A" it forwards to "B" (well this works perfectly) in this process the message from "A" is deleted. Message appears only at "B". We want a way through which the message also stays at "A" & also forwards to "B". Is there any configuration in Pine which we will help us to do so. Any help will be highly appreciated. Thank's in advance. -------------------==== Posted via Deja News ====----------------------- http://www.dejanews.com/ Search, Read, Post to Usenet From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:52:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA03359 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:52:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA10050 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:49:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from burlco-00.burlco.lib.nj.us (burlco-00.burlco.lib.nj.us [204.91.160.98]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA10046 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 16:49:19 -0800 Received: from localhost (rcummins@localhost) by burlco-00.burlco.lib.nj.us (8.7.5/8.6.12) with SMTP id TAA14031; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:49:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:49:09 -0500 (EST) From: Ray Cummins Reply-To: Ray Cummins To: grenleaf@bom2.vsnl.net.in cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help !!! In-Reply-To: <852800194.30954@dejanews.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 9 Jan 1997 grenleaf@bom2.vsnl.net.in wrote: > Suppose we have two logins: login "A" and login "B". At login "A" we > have created ".forward" file which will forward messages from "A" to > "B". When any message is mailed to "A" it forwards to "B" (well this > works perfectly) in this process the message from "A" is deleted. > Message appears only at "B". We want a way through which the message > also stays at "A" & also forwards to "B". Is there any configuration in > Pine which we will help us to do so. Any help will be highly > appreciated. Thank's in advance. > Well, you can still do it with .forward in login "A"'s home directory: logina@host.com,loginb@host.com ...someone correct me if this is a Bad Thing, but I didn't have any looping problems w/ the above. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:44:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA03731 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:44:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA13101 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:39:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA13085 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:39:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlmDj-00038WC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 17:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pbrown@btc.btechnet.com (Paul B. Brown) Subject: Re: forwarding mail? Date: 9 Jan 1997 03:06:02 GMT Message-ID: <5b1naq$6uo@news.dgsys.com> References: In-Reply-To: In article , Simon Nunez writes: >I have two separate email accounts. Is there any way in pine that would >allow me to forward all mail to just one of my accounts? I heard it was >possible. Thanks. If your e-mail account is on a Unix machine and that machine runs sendmail, all you need to do is create a new file called .forward in your home directory containing the e-mail address of where you want your e-mail to forwarded to. file: .forward contents: login_name@my_email_address perms: 640 owner: login_name group: your_primary_group I hope this helps . . . . Enjoy . . . . --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul B. Brown "Sailing is a state of mind . . . ." pbrown@btechnet.com Unix Systems Administration --------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:02:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA03917 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:02:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA10942 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:59:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA10938 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 17:59:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlmUx-00038WC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 17:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kong Sing Yeong Subject: Re: pine395: Compose doesn't clear screen or display message header Date: Thu, 9 Jan 1997 11:26:26 +0000 Message-ID: References: <01bbfc7c$34d466a0$c601c7c0@win95> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <01bbfc7c$34d466a0$c601c7c0@win95> Happened to me too! All you have to do is to press Ctrl-L (This "refreshes" the screen) (it has always worked for me,...if it doesn't, just cancel and compose again.) Sing Yeong On 7 Jan 1997, Kevin Roosdahl wrote: > I have been using pine393 on AIX unix. After upgrading to pine395, I have > noticed several times now that when I press "C" to compose a new message, > it seems like nothing happened. But the program is actually waiting for me > to enter the header information for the message. Pressing Ctrl-C will > prompt me to cancel the message. > > It does not clear the screen and it does not display any part of the new > message header. > > This would happen once in a blue moon with the old version, but it happens > about 1 out of 3 times when using the new version. > > I am using NetTerm terminal emulation on Win95 emulating a VT100 terminal. > > Has anyone else experienced this or know of a solution? > > Your help is appreciated. > > Reply to this newsgroup and/or send email to kevro@oppy.com > > Thanks! > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:07:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA03960 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:07:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA13442 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:04:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA13438 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:04:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlmZR-00038WC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 18:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jwilloug@gate.net (Jason Willoughby) Subject: Re: Displaying plaintext and not HTML Date: 14 Jan 1997 09:01:40 -0500 Message-ID: <5bg3k4$i1a@navajo.gate.net> References: <5b83fg$1t9u@navajo.gate.net> Michael (shotgun@best.com) wrote: : I found that PINE will NOT read message in the form of the new NutScrape : bug by selecting 'v', but if you must, you CAN read the message if you : reply, oddly enough. Huh? I've never had any problem with the 'v'iew command, it displays both text and HTML just fine. The thing is, I'd rather not need to use view for a type pine can and does display in the main window. jwilloug@gate.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:22:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA04111 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:22:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA11250 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:19:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA11246 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:19:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlmr8-00038WC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 18:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: Question Date: 18 Jan 1997 23:46:12 GMT Message-ID: References: <32DED116.6872@umich.edu> On Thu, 16 Jan 1997 20:08:38 -0500, stranger wrote: >I have two folder collections; one is on the local machine and another >one is on the remote IMAP server. How do I copy all the folders from >the IMAP server to my local machine? Thank you! > >--- > Wen-Lan Wang I think the best way to do this is from outside of pine. Either FTP them to the local machine, or use Z-modem or some such. (If you're using IMAP, I guess FTP will be the option). On the remote machine, in your home directory, there's a directory called mail which contains all your mail folders. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi When someone says "I want a programming language in which I need only say what I wish done," give him a lollipop. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:12:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA04501 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA11883 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:10:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA11879 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:10:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlnbv-00038XC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 19:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Matthew Schinckel <9308394v@hopper.Underdale.UniSA.edu.au> Subject: Re: Multiple Sigs. Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:27:05 +930 Message-ID: References: <5bk5kt$gki$2@news.sas.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5bk5kt$gki$2@news.sas.ab.ca> On 16 Jan 1997 thornes@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: > Just asking about the possibilities. > > When I used to use BlueWave off-line reader, I had numerous tagline files > for different usegroups, or to just randomly add one to my message. > > Is there anyway to set up a random .sig file in PINE? > > This way, I can write different things and have them appear randomly, or > maybe pick and choose. A bit of a way around this would be to do the following (this is what I used to do on my VMS account.): o Have a directory filled with the individual files, given numerical names. o Have a script that checks how many files there are, then randomly generates a number that will fit in this range (ie 001 - xxx). o This script could then be used to change a .sig-pointer file to point to the chosen tagline file. Other options would be to have it search through a text file for seperated tags, and chose one of these randomly, but this is a bit trickier. Matt. --- Matthew Schinckel - matt@null.net Shapeshifter #2813 TopFermentation@beer.com (Yay Coopers Ale!) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:13:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA04506 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:13:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA14320 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:10:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA14316 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:10:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlnbu-00038WC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 19:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk (Steve McIntyre) Subject: Re: Multiple Sigs. Date: 18 Jan 1997 01:24:10 GMT Message-ID: <5bp8nq$5uh@lyra.csx.cam.ac.uk> References: <5bk5kt$gki$2@news.sas.ab.ca> In article , Matthew Schinckel wrote: > >A bit of a way around this would be to do the following (this is what I >used to do on my VMS account.): > >o Have a directory filled with the individual files, given numerical names. >o Have a script that checks how many files there are, then randomly >generates a number that will fit in this range (ie 001 - xxx). >o This script could then be used to change a .sig-pointer file to point >to the chosen tagline file. > >Other options would be to have it search through a text file for >seperated tags, and chose one of these randomly, but this is a bit trickier. The program sigrot does exactly this, and does it quite well. I use it from pine by calling it in an output filter. The source is freely available on sunsite.unc.edu and its mirrors. -- Steve McIntyre, stevem@chiark.greenend.org.uk The Unix world's best mod player MikMod "Can't keep my eyes from the circling sky, +------------------ "Tongue-tied & twisted, Just an earth-bound misfit, I..." |Finger for PGP key From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:32:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA04727 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA14567 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:30:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA14563 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 19:30:03 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlnuT-00038XC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 19:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: gagnonjo@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Jocelyn G) Subject: PC-Pine: [BBOARD failed: Can't open mailbox *Mail/[]: no such bboard] Date: 19 Jan 97 00:25:17 GMT Message-ID: I just installed PC-Pine 3.95 on my computer (I'm on Win95), and I'm trying to connect to my Unix account with my OTHER account, with a PPP connection. The HELP file does not help me that much, and it seems I can't configure Pine to retrieve mail from the remote server. Does the error message "[BBOARD failed: Can't open mailbox *Mail/[]: no such bboard]" ring some bell to someone, and can anybody help me? I have a very specific reason to use Pine, so don't suggest changing software, I'm already using another one, but I HAVE to use this new version of Pine also for some operations... If you could be kind enough to also send the answer by e-mail, in case my mail server screws up, which happens sometimes..., I would be glad. Hopefully, Jocelyn G gagnonjo@ERE.UMontreal.CA -- ==================================================================== Jocelyn G BLAGUES-L: gagnonjo@ERE.UMontreal.CA E-MAIL: jgagnon@refer.qc.ca WWW: http://VentDeLaitue.home.ml.org ==================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:21:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA05015 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:21:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA15074 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:16:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA15068 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:16:47 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 19 Jan 97 05:16:40 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA03534 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 04:25:59 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 04:25:58 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: pine user-list Subject: Re: Displaying plaintext and not HTML In-Reply-To: <5bg3k4$i1a@navajo.gate.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 14 Jan 1997, Jason Willoughby wrote: >Michael (shotgun@best.com) wrote: >: I found that PINE will NOT read message in the form of the new NutScrape >: bug by selecting 'v', but if you must, you CAN read the message if you >: reply, oddly enough. > Huh? I've never had any problem with the 'v'iew command, it displays >both text and HTML just fine. The thing is, I'd rather not need to use >view for a type pine can and does display in the main window. At 4:22 in the morning, people get strange ideas sometimes... Here's mine for today: IF you're getting mails like that on a regular basis, why not invoke emacs (e.g.) as your alternate editor and cut the tags? Just my $.02 Personally, I prefer a nice procmail recipe that bounces mail composed with Netscrape - after all, what people use this thing for a mailer? *chuckle* Fat chance you'll miss something important this way... >:-> Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:21:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA05020 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:21:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA15065 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:16:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA15061 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:16:43 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sun, 19 Jan 97 05:16:36 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id EAA03551 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 04:28:36 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 04:28:36 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: pine user-list Subject: reply to all users sorted? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I still haven't found a way to change pine's behaviour when replying to messages with several possible recipients. I would still like a feature like "chose one of these five for TO and the others for CC or BCC". Did I miss anything or is something like that planned? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:45:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA05198 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:44:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA15343 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:40:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA15337 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:40:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlp2P-00038cC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 20:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hurry@imap2.asu.edu Subject: Re: Config Dowload-Command-HELP! Date: 17 Jan 1997 03:41:11 GMT Message-ID: <5bmscn$7ku@news.asu.edu> References: <5bm1rn$ee2@sol.towson.edu> On 16 Jan 1997 20:08:23 GMT, Douglas Rockwell wrote: > In PINE, you can configure Download Command so that Export has an option > to use a Unix command to send the file directly to a PC. > I used > sz _FILE_ > also plain > sz > and the file downloads correctly, BUT is has a random file name instead of > the Subject. > How can I configure it to either > 1. let me enter a filename prior to download > 2. take the Subject as the default? > TIA > -- Unfortunately, pine currently has no way of configuring the filename. Maybe, you should send a suggestion by pressing "b" from the main menu and selecting the option to send one. As for the command, I would recommend "sz -a" instead of plain "sz" so the end-of-lines can be converted. -- Adam Myrow From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:45:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA05201 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:45:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA15335 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:40:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA15331 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:40:18 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlp2C-00038aC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 20:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: filtering FAQ Date: 16 Jan 1997 18:04:59 GMT Message-ID: References: <32D2ABAD.4243@fccj.cc.fl.us> amatt@fccj.cc.fl.us (amatt): > Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii > > > >
Is using procmail usefull on filtering out just pine mail or can I > use it with Netscape Mail 2.0 that I will run on Solaris? I am looking > for a turnkey package that can do the job. thanks... 
> > > procmail runs on Slowaris and allows to filter *any* incoming mail. It's particularly good on deleting mails with Content-Type: text/html ... Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:45:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA05208 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:45:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA15329 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:40:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA15325 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:40:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlp1V-00038XC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 20:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Fabrizio Talucci Subject: Re: PINE vs EUDORA! I still love my tripe! Date: Sun, 12 Jan 1997 12:31:48 -0800 Message-ID: <32D94A34.31D1@cs.ucla.edu> References: <32D17A05.440E@cs.ucla.edu> <32D33CE2.6B95@cs.ucla.edu> <32D4475A.3F3B@cs.ucla.edu> <32D575D5.4B2B@cs.ucla.edu> <5bbbc6$h98@gti.gti.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit pegboy@gti.net wrote: > > Fabrizio Talucci (talucci@cs.ucla.edu) wrote: > : Ashok Aiyar, Ph.D. > > Why don't you folks move on to alt.brag...this a pine mailgroup, not > who's done what... > I would think ya'd know better... Right, I'm moving. The problem is that everything started in PINE environment. -- ___ __ _ __ __ __ /_ /_| /_> /_/ / / / / / E-mail: talucci@cs.ucla.edu / / | /_> / | / /_ / /_/ AX25:IK7NCU@IK7MXD.PUG.ITA.EU ___ __ __ __ http://www.cs.ucla.edu/~talucci / /_| / / / / ' / ' / Addr: UCLA-CSD Boelter Hall 3771 / / | /_ /_/ /_/ /_/ / Tel:(310) Off. 2068589 Home 4450647 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:46:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA05217 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:46:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA12995 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:40:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA12991 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:40:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlp2I-00038bC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 20:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: greenleaf Subject: Pine 3.91 Help on Auto Response Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 17:31:51 +0530 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anybody help us to know is there any way in pine for auto response. Meaning: If somebody E-mails us, then he/she will "Automatically Receive an Acknowledgement" saying "Thank you for your E-mail. We will get back to you shortly etc... ". Keeping in mind that we are not logged in at that particular time when the mails comes. Something very similar to answering machine. Hope I am not asking for more ??? please help. ------- Greenleaf Software Bliss Compound, Nivetia Road, Malad (East), Bombay - 400 097 Tel. No.: 91 22 840 0081 E-mail : "grenleaf@bom2.vsnl.net.in" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:47:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA05231 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:47:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA12983 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:40:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA12979 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:40:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlp1k-00038YC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 20:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tgrock@tiger.towson.edu (Douglas Rockwell) Subject: Config Dowload-Command-HELP! Date: 16 Jan 1997 20:08:23 GMT Message-ID: <5bm1rn$ee2@sol.towson.edu> In PINE, you can configure Download Command so that Export has an option to use a Unix command to send the file directly to a PC. I used sz _FILE_ also plain sz and the file downloads correctly, BUT is has a random file name instead of the Subject. How can I configure it to either 1. let me enter a filename prior to download 2. take the Subject as the default? TIA -- Doug The price of freedom is infernal vigilantes From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:47:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA05246 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:47:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA12989 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:40:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA12985 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:40:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vlp1x-00038ZC; Sat, 18 Jan 97 20:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ed@cti.ecp.fr (Eric Doutreleau) Subject: pine and DSN Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:42:32 GMT Message-ID: <5bllpo$d6p@piston.ecp.fr> Does pine support DSN? Thanks in advance for nay answer -- Eric Doutreleau Ingenieur systeme a l Ecole Centrale de Paris -------------------------------------------------------------------------- BSD uber alles. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:10:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA05369 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:10:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA13314 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:08:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA13310 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:08:07 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) id SAA28052; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:35:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 18:35:44 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: "Robin S. Socha" cc: pine user-list Subject: Re: reply to all users sorted? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Maybe putting one name in the To: field and the remainder could be set up as a distribution list (if these names are always the same) and the distribution list name would be put in the Cc: or Bcc: field. Greg batchman@liberty.com On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > > I still haven't found a way to change pine's behaviour when replying to > messages with several possible recipients. I would still like a feature like > "chose one of these five for TO and the others for CC or BCC". Did I miss > anything or is something like that planned? > > Cheers, > Robin > > > > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 > Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 > 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" > ... so I got myself Linux. > ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:19:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA05428 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:19:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA15744 for pine-info-out; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:17:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA15740 for ; Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:17:02 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 13:16:13 +0800 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 13:16:13 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: greenleaf cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine 3.91 Help on Auto Response In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, greenleaf wrote: > Can anybody help us to know is there any way in pine for auto response. > Meaning: If somebody E-mails us, then he/she will "Automatically Receive > an Acknowledgement" saying "Thank you for your E-mail. We will get back > to you shortly etc... ". Keeping in mind that we are not logged in at > that particular time when the mails comes. Something very similar to > answering machine. Hope I am not asking for more ??? please help. That is not one of the features which is intended for pine to address. (There's a pun in there someplace.... :-) ) Anyway, you can do that very simply with your .forward file and a script. In your .forward file you can put: \localaddress "|cat - >> /path/to/some/script" This will cause the mail to be delivered to your mailbox normally and will also pipe the contents of the email to the "script" as STDIN. You then simply parse the input put for the proper From: and send the response. Warning: This will send a response to any and every message sent!! This may cause undesirerable results. You'd be better advised to use a mail filter program such as procmail and use the rules to determine when/if to send a response. Regards, Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:34:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA07271 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:34:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA18563 for pine-info-out; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:30:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA18558 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 01:30:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vltWy-00038WC; Sun, 19 Jan 97 01:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tim Laughlin Subject: Mail Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:06:00 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII how do I go about setting up a mail server in pine??? I am connected through telnet to my internet service providers server. the mail server is a different server.. I need a login name and password to logon to the mail server.. how do I go about getting my mail and setting up the inbox...?!?!?! -Tim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 12:59:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA01469 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 12:59:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA22518 for pine-info-out; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:49:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from wamedes.com (wamedes.com [205.199.136.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA22514 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:49:38 -0800 Received: from wamedes.com (wamedes.com [205.199.136.1]) by wamedes.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id KAA09059 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:48:43 -0800 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:48:43 -0800 (PST) From: Ovidiu Stavrica To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII help From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 12:59:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA01474 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 12:59:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA22553 for pine-info-out; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:51:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA22548 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 10:51:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vm2HU-00038TC; Sun, 19 Jan 97 10:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: Re: converting between Unix and Windows Pine folders Date: 13 Jan 1997 22:25:40 GMT Message-ID: <5becp5$4o3$1@brokaw.wa.com> References: David L Miller writes: >Download, uncompress, and untar > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap.tar.Z > >Change to the imap directory, then download, uncompress, and untar > > ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/mail/imap-utils.tar.Z > >Then > make xxx # "xxx" is your platform > cd mbxcvt > make Thanks for the info David. I just did this on halcyon but I must have the platform (xxx above) wrong. Here's what happened after downloading, uncompressing, and untarring: nancym@coho:/scratch/nancym/imap> uname ULTRIX nancym@coho:/scratch/nancym/imap> make ULTRIX make: *** No rule to make target `ULTRIX'. Stop. nancym@coho:/scratch/nancym/imap> make ultrix make: *** No rule to make target `ultrix'. Stop. I've crossposted this to halcyon.general with hopes that someone in one of these groups can help. What is the best way for me to find out the platform - uname didn't seem to give me the info I need. Thanks much, Nancy PS - If anyone at Halcyon has mbxcvt compiled, could you mail me the path? Thnx! -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 13:01:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA01696 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 13:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA25949 for pine-info-out; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 12:27:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA25945 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 12:26:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vm3mM-00038TC; Sun, 19 Jan 97 12:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Pau Gorostiza Subject: MIME Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1997 13:59:03 +0000 Message-ID: <32DB9127.2C1E@giga.sct.ub.es> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm using PINE 3.93 for Linux 2.0.0. Does anybody know how to send messages in MIME format ? I mean to send accents and Latin1 characters through a listserver but it seems that Pine is using UUENCODE and they end up looking quite ugly... Thanks in advance, Pau -- Pau Gorostiza pow@giga.sct.ub.es http://tam-tam.sct.ub.es Serveis Cient=EDfico-T=E8cnics Universitat de Barcelona (34-3) 402-1349, 1352 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:41:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA02381 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:41:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA25242 for pine-info-out; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:37:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA25238 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 14:37:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vm5pr-00038TC; Sun, 19 Jan 97 14:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Pico Speller Date: 16 Jan 1997 18:48:56 GMT Message-ID: References: onoor@yoda.neiu.edu (ozair noor): > I have installed Pico/pine first time on unix system. My problem is that > whenever i use pico and do spell check it always says "DONE SPELL CHECKING" > I have rebuild pico two three times for DIGITAL UNIX O/S but same result. So your spell checker finds that your text is ok. What's wrong with that? ;-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:06:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA02568 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:06:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA25490 for pine-info-out; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:00:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from osf1.gmu.edu (osf1.gmu.edu [129.174.1.13]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA25486 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:00:12 -0800 Received: from localhost by osf1.gmu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-1001AM/GMUv3) id AA28992; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:00:11 -0500 Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:00:11 -0500 (EST) From: E=mc2 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Speller on the Pine 3.95q Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII By mistake, I inserted a word (tesst) into the private dictionary. But I cannot find a way to remove it. Every-time the word is misspelled, the Speller does not flag it. --- E=mc2 --- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:14:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA02627 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:14:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA27984 for pine-info-out; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:12:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA27980 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:12:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vm6Nt-00038UC; Sun, 19 Jan 97 15:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=F6rg?= Henner Subject: pine, fvwm2 and 2 users Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 20:36:37 +0100 Message-ID: <32E277C5.2D7F963C@star.bawue.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi, how i can realize following on my X-Windows: another user wants to read his eMails as i do. (just klicking on the coolmail-icon)... following won't work in my .fvwm2 file here: *FvwmButtons - - Swallow "coolmail" Exec coolmail -geometry +0+0 -vol 100 -int 12 -e "su - ama -c pine -f /var/spool/mail/ama" & have anyone out there any idea's ???? please eMail... -- = greetz, J=F6rg. = +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | StarLight Online Services - StarLight Communications | | J=F6rg Henner & Thomas Bullinger | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Luisenplatz 2 | Murphy's Law is recursive: | | D-70188 Stuttgart | | | | Washing your car to make | | Tel. : 0172-7417663 (D2-Handy) | it rain - doesn't work ;-) | | eMail: jhe@star.bawue.com | | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ | Infos : info@star.bawue.com | | Support : support@star.bawue.com | +-------------------------------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:44:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA02871 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:44:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA25994 for pine-info-out; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:41:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA25990 for < pine-info@cac.washington.edu>; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:41:15 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:40:32 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: nancym@ii.com, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: converting between Unix and Windows Pine folders X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0c Beta (0201)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32e2b0f05862004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:40:34 +0800 > Thanks for the info David. I just did this on halcyon but > I must have the platform (xxx above) wrong. Here's what > happened after downloading, uncompressing, and untarring: > > nancym@coho:/scratch/nancym/imap> uname > ULTRIX > nancym@coho:/scratch/nancym/imap> make ULTRIX > make: *** No rule to make target `ULTRIX'. Stop. > nancym@coho:/scratch/nancym/imap> make ultrix > make: *** No rule to make target `ultrix'. Stop. I'm going to guess here...but maybe you should try "build ult" in the same spirit as the "build ult" command in pine?? You can even try "vi Makefile" and see what targets are supported. Ed > > I've crossposted this to halcyon.general with hopes that > someone in one of these groups can help. What is the > best way for me to find out the platform - uname didn't > seem to give me the info I need. > -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 16:14:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA03207 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 16:14:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA26426 for pine-info-out; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 16:12:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA26422 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 16:12:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vm7LP-00038TC; Sun, 19 Jan 97 16:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: morpheus@calweb.com (Steve Lamb) Subject: Re: Multiple Sigs. Date: 19 Jan 1997 21:32:05 GMT Message-ID: References: <5bk5kt$gki$2@news.sas.ab.ca> On Sun, 19 Jan 1997 16:32:59 GMT, Eric Tse wrote: >> Is there anyway to set up a random .sig file in PINE? >> >> This way, I can write different things and have them appear randomly, or >> maybe pick and choose. > > A while ago I wrote a Perl program which cycles through signature files Another option is a perl script called "signify". It creates random sigs on the fly in a rather nice manner. I just have a script that runs it and my editor at the same time so my .sigs are constantly randomly generated. -- - - - ---===+{ }+===--- - - - Steve C. Lamb "Burning, longing, nothing could keep him from her now He flies by the whispering guidance of the clouds This lonely eternity will end this eve within the arms of Gabrielle The creatures of the night release him to become the dove again Destiny awaits..." -- Happy Rhodes, "The Flight" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:17:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA04106 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:17:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA27879 for pine-info-out; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:14:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from pike.netdoor.com (pike.netdoor.com [208.137.128.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA27875 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:14:24 -0800 Received: from lance.netdoor.com (teaton@lance.netdoor.com [208.137.128.7]) by pike.netdoor.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id UAA15125 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 20:14:22 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (teaton@localhost) by lance.netdoor.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA00894 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 20:14:21 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: lance.netdoor.com: teaton owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 20:14:21 -0600 (CST) From: Tim Eaton To: Pine Info List Subject: PC Pine? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I log onto a shell account from a PC at my house. The shell account uses Pine for E-mail. Sometimes I just don't won't to tie up the phone for long periods of time reading and responding to messages. I use e-mail for recreational purposes and sometimes have 250 or more messages a night. Is there a Pine for PC that would allow me to download my messages from my shell account and read them on my PC offline? Thanks for your consideration. Tim Eaton "The Thing" http://ww2.netdoor.com/~teaton From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:51:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA04347 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:51:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA00647 for pine-info-out; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:47:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA00643 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:47:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vm9ln-00038TC; Sun, 19 Jan 97 18:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Mark Crispin Subject: Re: PC-Pine: [BBOARD failed: Can't open mailbox *Mail/[]: no such bboard] Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 17:27:34 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 19 Jan 1997, Jocelyn G wrote: > Does the error message "[BBOARD failed: Can't open mailbox *Mail/[]: no > such bboard]" ring some bell to someone, and can anybody help me? What is the setting of your inbox-path? It looks like you have it set to "*Mail/[]". This is not correct, and looks like a rather bizarre combination of a folder collection and a news specification (in other words, it's not right for anything). An inbox-path in PC-Pine should look something like {foo.bar.com}inbox only you substitute the name of your UNIX server system for "foo.bar.com". -- Mark -- Read http://www.imap.org for the "best kept secret in email" DoD #0105, R90/6 pilot, FAX: (206) 685-4045 ICBM: N 47 39'35" W 122 18'39" Science does not emerge from voting, party politics, or public debate. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 20:11:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA04952 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 20:11:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA29179 for pine-info-out; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 20:07:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA29175 for ; Sun, 19 Jan 1997 20:07:40 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:06:59 +0800 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:06:59 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: nancym@ii.com cc: Pine Info Subject: Re: converting between Unix and Windows Pine folders In-Reply-To: <32e2b0f05862004@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, Ed Greshko wrote: > I'm going to guess here...but maybe you should try "build ult" in the > same spirit as the "build ult" command in pine?? You can even try > "vi Makefile" and see what targets are supported. Ooopss I mean "make ult". Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:14:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA07315 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:14:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA05110 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:08:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA05106 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:08:14 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:06:27 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA10030; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:08:00 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:07:59 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Sylvain Robitaille cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Remote rsh timeout In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" On 15 Jan 1997, Sylvain Robitaille wrote: > >Not quite: the minimal solution to avoid the long delay due to the "remote > >rsh timeout" is to add the port number to the end of the hostname: > > > > {host.site.domain:143}inbox > > Ok, but then this assumes that imapd nust be listening to port 143, right? > In most cases this will be ok, but there's bound to be the odd one... Correct... I was assuming that if someone is able to set up the IMAP server on a non-standard port then they'd have enough nouse to realise to put that port number into the above once they know the syntax exists. One has to make _some_ assumptions at times. (sigh:-) -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:23:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA07386 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:23:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA05235 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:20:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA05231 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:20:04 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:18:15 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA14061; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:19:48 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:19:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Michael Eilman cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Help with Global settings In-Reply-To: <32DE8844.35BD@erols.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" There are two "systemwide" configuration files that the SysAdmin can use to configure Pine. Both usually live in the /usr/local/lib directory (although you can change this by modifying the source code and recompiling if you wish). The "pine.conf" file provides default settings for Pine users. The users can override values set up in this file. The "pine.conf.fixed" file provides 'fixed' settings for Pine users, which they cannot override in their personal settings. You can get a template pine.conf file by giving the command: pine -conf >pine.conf and then copying this to /usr/local/lib. Edit it to set any defaults you wish. Then make a copy of it as pine.conf.fixed and delete everything except those settings you wish to force upon your users with no chance to override. Do remember to make sure that both files are readable by the users. Address Books (providing aliases for sending messages and distribution lists) are usually personal items. However you can set up a systemwide Global Addressbook if you wish, then putting the filespec of this in the relevant configuration variable name in the systemwide configuration file. The addressbook is of quite a simple format, with fields of entries separated by Tabs. Try creating a personal address book with a few entries (including a distribution list with several entries) to see what this is. Alternatively someone else may take pity on you and explain the format in detail. After creating this you will need to create a "lookup" file for it using the command: pine -create_lu where is the name of the addressbook file, and is the sort method to use to order entries within it. Check the man page for Pine to see what these are. Again, remember to check that both the main addressbook file and the lookup file are readable by the people they are provided for. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 16 Jan 1997, Michael Eilman wrote: > I am relatively new with Pine, and I am trying to set up all of my users > to have the same alias files, distribution lists, configuration of > printers, etc. Is there a simple way to do this? Also, how do I set up > distribution lists at all. Help is apprecitated, thanks. > > Mike > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:24:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA07395 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:24:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA02840 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:18:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA02836 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:18:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmFpa-00038UC; Mon, 20 Jan 97 01:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: Mail Date: 20 Jan 1997 05:26:35 GMT Message-ID: References: On Sat, 18 Jan 1997 21:06:00 -0600, Tim Laughlin wrote: >how do I go about setting up a mail server in pine??? I am connected >through telnet to my internet service providers server. > >the mail server is a different server.. I need a login name and password >to logon to the mail server.. how do I go about getting my mail and >setting up the inbox...?!?!?! I think your solution will be to set up a remote inbox. The .pinerc file has sufficient comments regarding how to create this. Also on my system, (with Pine 3.95), there is a file, (which came with the sources), in a docs/tech-notes directory called config-notes.html, which describes in greater detail how to set it up. On your provider's system, you might look in /usr/docs, or /usr/local/docs, or some such; you should be able to find Pine docs somewhere. If that fails, try http://www.washington.edu/pine -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi Don't let your mind wander -- it's too little to be let out alone. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:29:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA07446 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:29:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA05267 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:24:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.Germany.EU.net (mail.germany.eu.net [192.76.144.65]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA05263 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:24:41 -0800 Received: by mail.Germany.EU.net with ESMTP (5.59+:34/EUnetD-2.6.1.h) via EUnet id KAA07935; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:24:24 +0100 Received: by mail.Leipzig.Germany.EU.net with UUCP (8.6.5:29/EUnetPoP-1.1.9) via EUnet id KAA24013; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:22:57 +0100 From: Rudolf Kompf Message-Id: Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:01:55 +0100 (MET) To: "Randall C. Nortman" cc: Pine-Info Mailing-List Subject: Re: Need details on mailbox locking In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 17 Jan 1997, Randall C. Nortman wrote: -> I'm writing a program which operates on mailboxes on a unix system -> (specifically, Solaris, but I want to make it portable). I'm -> concerned about file locking, since I don't really know that much -> about it, having learned programming on OS/2 where file locking is -> handled by the OS. I know that one can use the flock() call, and also -> that programs often create a file named FileToLock.lock, where -> "FileToLock" is replaced, of course, with the name of the file to -> lock. If I do both, however, I could get into deadlock with another -> program. (For example, I create file.lock and then try to -> flock(file). Another prog has already flock'ed(file), and is waiting -> for file.lock to disappear.) -> -> I'm particularly concerned with coexisting peacefully with Pine. -> -> So, if somebody can provide me with some details about this it would -> be very helpful. Sample code (preferably in C/C++ or Perl, but I know -> quite a few other langs as well) would be imminently useful. Or, -> simply pointing me to some good docs would be fine. (I've found the -> mail filtering FAQ and the Pine Q & A and tech-notes already, which -> were useful but didn't give enough detail.) -> -> TIA. Any help greatly appreciated. -> -> -- -> Randy Nortman -> rnortman@tezcat.com -> http://www.tezcat.com/~rnortman -> I have installed the procmail-package. It contains a command 'lockfile', which can be used to create semaphore files (calls have time-outs and retries!). These files are compatible with procmail's mail-file handling. So I process all mail with procmail's private lockfiles and lock with command 'lockfile' these lockfiles from inside of my shell-scripts. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Rudolf Kompf | E-mail: kompf@ife-le.de From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:31:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA07460 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:31:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA02927 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:28:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA02923 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:28:01 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:26:09 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA16587; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:27:29 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:27:28 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Deirdre Healy Staples cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: address limits for distribution lists? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" If memory serves there _is_ a maximum number of e-mail addresses in a distribution list, but its somewhere around 1000 or 10,000 (or something). I suspect you arenot hitting this limit, but instead suffering from exactly the error reported to you: "Line too long" I think you've implicitly assumed that the comma separated list of e-mail addresses for the distribution list has to be all on one line? This is not true. Instead just split the line after one of the commas and continue the list on the next line in the file, indented a few spaces. This can be easily ascertained by using Pine to setup a list of a few addresses (say 5-10 longish ones) and then looking at the format of the file produced by Pine. Aside: if one bypasses the tools to maintain the list (ie, Pine) then one should expect to do a bit of investigative work to ascertain the format of the file, including in exceptional/unusual situations. ;-) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Fri, 17 Jan 1997, Deirdre Healy Staples wrote: > I'm downloading a list of about 600 email addresses, editing the file so > that it's readable by Pine: NicknameTABFullnameTAB(email,email) > > When I download only 20 names - it works fine in Pine. As soon as I do > the entire list of 600 - Pine will read the nickname and fullname - but > as soon as I go to select the addresses, I get the error message "line > too long." > > This leads me to believe that there is a limited amount of email > addresses allowed for a distribution list in Pine? If this is true - > does anyone know the magic number? If not - any other ideas? > > We're using Pine version 3.93 on DEC Unix. > > Thanks in advance! > > -Deirdre From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:34:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA07479 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:34:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA02952 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:29:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA02948 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 01:29:35 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:27:36 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA17082; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:29:05 GMT Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:29:04 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jesse cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: change In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" To change the attribution string: 1. Obtain a copy of the source code of Pine. 2. Edit the text string in the appropriate program file. 3. Compile. 4. Install. (There isn't yet any way to set this frill from a preference in the Setup Configuration screen.) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, Jesse wrote: > J: just want to find out if anyone can tell me how to change the below to > your own preference? like u want to put "i see whoever writing this in > the newsgroup:" how to u achieve this? could someone please tell me? > > Jesse > > On 15 Jan 1997, Jim Vienneau wrote: > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 05:33:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA09424 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 05:33:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA08130 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 05:28:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA08126 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 05:28:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmJkU-00038TC; Mon, 20 Jan 97 05:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eckert_Manuela Subject: How to set the Return-Path with PINE 3.95 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:27:42 +0100 Message-ID: <32E3489E.41C67EA6@hmi.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, can someone tell me how to set the Header-Field Return-Path in PINE 3.95 What I tried is to set it with Setup -> Config and set customized hdrs to Return-Path: eckert@hmi.de When I check the .pinerc-File it looks ok. But when sending a mail it is silently ignored. The Reply-To: Header Field I can set to my address correctly. Why can't I set the Return-Path? Thanks, Manuela -- Manuela Eckert, Postmaster Hahn-Meitner-Institut | phone: 030/8062-2541 Glienicker Str. 100 | email: eckert@hmi.de 14109 Berlin | PGP-key available From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 06:16:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA09674 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 06:16:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA06324 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 06:12:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from bubba.NMSU.Edu (bubba.NMSU.Edu [128.123.3.39]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA06320 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 06:12:44 -0800 Received: from NMSU.Edu by bubba.NMSU.Edu (8.8.4/NMSU) id HAA29130; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:14:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from hector.NMSU.Edu by NMSU.Edu (8.8.4/NMSU-1.18) id HAA20414; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:12:42 -0700 (MST) Received: (from almansou@localhost) by hector.NMSU.Edu (AIX4.2/UCB 8.7/8.7) id HAA44010; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:10:48 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 07:10:48 -0700 (MST) From: "A. MANSOUR" Reply-To: "A. MANSOUR" To: pine-info@washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII HI, my name is alhussein I am student in NMSU, today I gat an e-mail from someone how used my name and my address and I do not know who is this guy. I am trying to find if there is a way to know how is the sender, my e-mail address is , please help me if you can. thanks for helping. alhussein From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:25:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA11136 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA08653 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:19:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA08649 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 09:19:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmNKS-00038BC; Mon, 20 Jan 97 09:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rmiles@borabora.bbn.com (Robert Miles) Subject: Re: News server authentication - how? Date: 20 Jan 1997 10:19:52 -0500 Message-ID: <5c02eo$hs1@borabora.bbn.com> References: In article , Mike Brudenell wrote: >Pine will prompt you to enter authentication information when the news >server tells it that it can't do something without authenticating; there >is nothing to configure manually. [snip] >However it sounds like your server allows limited news reading (and >posting?) without authentication, and access to additional newsgroups >after authentication? >I'm not too sure whether Pine will interwork with this setup (Pine Team?). >The reason for my suspicion is that when it sends a "GROUP" command to the >server to try and open one of the additional groups your news server is >responding something like "No such group" (because you aren't >authenticated). This is the same message that would be sent out if the >group really didn't exist. [snip] Here's an idea to try on such a setup (untested, since I have no access to such a setup): Choose a high-volume newsgroup that requires authentication (preferably not one you really want to read, but one that will almost always have a new article available), and put it first on the list of subscribed newsgroups. When reading news, always read one article from this newsgroup to force authentication, then use "q" to move on the the newsgroups you want to read. . . . . From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:28:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA12475 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:28:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA12801 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:24:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA12797 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 11:24:24 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 20 Jan 97 20:24:16 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id UAA01166; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:11:58 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 20:11:58 +0100 (MET) From: "Robin S. Socha" X-Sender: uzs8kb@localhost To: "A. MANSOUR" cc: pine-info@washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, A. MANSOUR wrote: > today I gat an e-mail from someone how used my name and my address and I >do not know who is this guy. I am trying to find if there is a way to >know how is the sender, my e-mail address is , please >help me if you can. Well, that depends on what mail program you're using. As you're writing to this particular list, I presume you're using pine. Now, both your and the sender's address ought to be in the header of your mail. It says: From:XY. That's the senders address... If, however, you're looking for the sender's real name and address, you might want to give "finger" (finger uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de in my case) or www.whowhere.com or www.switchboard.com (suggested by David J. Gillett) a try. These sites store personal information of people from all over the world. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:40:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA13104 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:40:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA11710 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:35:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mason2.gmu.edu (mason2.gmu.edu [129.174.1.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA11706 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 12:35:46 -0800 Received: from localhost by mason2.gmu.edu; (5.65v3.2/1.1.8.2/07Sep94-1001AM/GMUv1) id AA28500; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:35:44 -0500 Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 15:35:44 -0500 (EST) From: E=mc2 X-Sender: markawi@mason2.gmu.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Speller on the 3.95q Pine In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The speller on this new version of Pine does not make any sense when one is replying to a message. When replying to a message and requesting that the sender's message be included, the Speller checks the spelling of both the original message and the reply. The old version checked only the reply. It would make a whole lot more sense for someone to check their own spelling. But it does not make any sense to check the quoted message also. Can this be fixed? Or how can I change that? --- E=mc2 --- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:34:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA13721 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:34:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA14780 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:31:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA14776 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:31:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmRBU-00038lC; Mon, 20 Jan 97 13:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: How to set the Return-Path with PINE 3.95 Date: 20 Jan 1997 19:43:47 GMT Message-ID: References: <32E3489E.41C67EA6@hmi.de> eckert@hmi.de (Eckert_Manuela): > The Reply-To: Header Field I can set to my address correctly. > Why can't I set the Return-Path? Well, you don't set it - it gets added by the receiving MTA. Thus it will not get sent - ignoring is the right thing to do. > -- > Manuela Eckert, Postmaster > Hahn-Meitner-Institut Oh, ein Posthamster! :-) Sven === Quoting RFC0822 (ftp://ftp.fu-berlin.de/doc/rfc/rfc0822.gz 31663 bytes): 4.3.1. RETURN-PATH This field is added by the final transport system that delivers the message to its recipient. The field is intended to contain definitive information about the address and route back to the message's originator. Note: The "Reply-To" field is added by the originator and serves to direct replies, whereas the "Return-Path" field is used to identify a path back to the origina- tor. [...] Note: The "Return-Path" field is added by the mail transport service, at the time of final deliver. It is intended to identify a path back to the orginator of the message. The "Reply-To" field is added by the message originator and is intended to direct replies. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:59:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA13984 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:59:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA13176 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:55:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from emout09.mail.aol.com (emout09.mx.aol.com [198.81.11.24]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA13171 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 13:55:39 -0800 From: MAGDIRECT@aol.com Received: (from root@localhost) by emout09.mail.aol.com (8.7.6/8.7.3/AOL-2.0.0) id QAA24321 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:55:34 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:55:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <970120161249_504947061@emout09.mail.aol.com> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: cheapest way to get subscriptions how do i get these susbcriptions so cheap. marty gayle From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 14:15:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA14169 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 14:15:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA13455 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 14:09:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA13451 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 14:09:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmRr9-000394C; Mon, 20 Jan 97 14:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Pine and PGP? Date: 20 Jan 1997 19:50:09 GMT Message-ID: <5c0i9h$quu$3@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [Posted and mailed] In article , kimjo@andrews.edu (John Kim) writes: > Is there a version of Pine which is PGP enabled? And if so, what are > the key strokes to get it to work? May I recomment this web page: http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/pine_pgp.html for this frequently asked question in this forum? Cheers! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == www.uc.edu/~yuanj = Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = using Knews (Irix5.3) == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:25:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA15762 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:25:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA17791 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:21:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA17787 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 16:21:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmTvS-00038YC; Mon, 20 Jan 97 16:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mfriend@indiana.edu (Michelle) Subject: Pine book? Date: 20 Jan 1997 17:05:47 GMT Message-ID: <5c08lb$him@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> Hi! I have been charged with the task of becoming a Pine expert by my boss. I need to know if there are any terrific books out which I could read to learn every in-and-out? Even a chapter or two in another book is ok, as long as they go into detail (I am already very comfortable with pine). Thanks! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:49:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA17248 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:49:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA18015 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:45:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA18011 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:45:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmWBO-00038BC; Mon, 20 Jan 97 18:43 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Line in my Message Headers Date: 20 Jan 1997 23:58:24 GMT Message-ID: <5c10r0$ipt@due.unit.no> References: [Posted and mailed] In article , Bruce Toews wrote: >I get the following line in message headers I send out: > > X-Authentication-Warning: terminal.autobahn.mb.ca: toews owned process doing -bs > >I never used to get this line until I switched to this Internet provider. >Can someone tell me what this means? Thanks. Pine, when using the sendmail program (or similar) to send mail and with the enable-8bit-esmtp-negotiation option, starts it with some special options (-bs, as the above says) in order to fully use the sendmail ESMTP capabilities if available. This mode apparently allows easier forging of mail or something, and so some sendmail programs are set up to insert a warning if any non-superuser starts it that way. I believe you can get rid of this warning by changing pine to use an Internet connection to the mail server (possibly just 'localhost') instead. This is set in the Setup/Config/smtp-server option. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:49:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA18725 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA22048 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:45:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA22044 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:45:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmZ1X-00038UC; Mon, 20 Jan 97 21:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Bryan H." Subject: Re: address limits for distribution lists? Date: 20 Jan 1997 21:41:00 GMT Message-ID: <5c0opc$b6g@nnrp3.farm.idt.net> References: <32DF0636.22B4@iie.org.mx> >If memory serves there _is_ a maximum number of e-mail addresses in a >distribution list, but its somewhere around 1000 or 10,000 (or something). Sure enough, I am having trouble at about the 1100 mark. I can't find this topic covered in Pine's help screen (although I'm sure it's been talked about in this group before.) Anyone know where to read up on this at? Bryan From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:59:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA18838 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:59:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA20452 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:55:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA20448 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:55:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmZAs-00038BC; Mon, 20 Jan 97 21:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikaline@netcom.com (m.lee) Subject: Re: "Bug in Pine Detected: Received Abort Signal." Message-ID: References: <5c0j8e$7b2@nnrp3.farm.idt.net> Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 03:06:57 GMT Bryan H. (wriite@soho.ios.com) wrote: } Bug in Pine Detected: "Received abort signal." } Exiting Pine } This is what I get when I try to go into the address book. It first } occured when I was adding addresses, using the "z" function. } Any Ideas? } Bryan I get it lynxing altavista, last of the lynx-friendly webcrawlers. It's a plot against shellers. ml From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:02:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA18900 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 22:01:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA20495 for pine-info-out; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:58:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA20491 for ; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 21:58:52 -0800 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.8.3/8.5) with SMTP id XAA23782; Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:49:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 23:49:06 -0600 (CST) From: Robert J Wilshe To: Michelle cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine book? In-Reply-To: <5c08lb$him@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Michelle: A few good starting points are with Pine's own home page at www.washington.edu/pine. Here you can find out all the revision history, download q&a, tech notes (a good must-read!), user guides, secrets, etc. And, you can get the source code there too. I have learned much by reading all the documentation found there, and wherever else the site may point to. Plus, this list is a great resource for questions pertaining to a particular install, or getting around the quirks (?) we all know and love about Pine. Hope this helps, \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ robert depaul university joseph chicago illinois wilshe u s a email rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// On 20 Jan 1997, Michelle wrote: > Hi! > I have been charged with the task of becoming a Pine expert by my boss. > I need to know if there are any terrific books out which I could read to > learn every in-and-out? Even a chapter or two in another book is ok, as > long as they go into detail (I am already very comfortable with pine). > > Thanks! > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 00:04:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA19841 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 00:04:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA23651 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 00:00:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA23647 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 00:00:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmb4e-00038BC; Mon, 20 Jan 97 23:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: skern@mail.borg.com (Scott Kern) Subject: pine and pop3 Date: 21 Jan 1997 03:58:56 GMT Message-ID: <5c1eu0$jvc@ns2.borg.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII A week ago there were a couple of messages explaining how to get pine to talk to a pop server. I lost the print out of those messages and also my school's news server died and is being replaced. I'm working with a lab using PC's running FreeBSD and we're trying to get pine to talk with the pop server with no success, so any help wuold be appreciated. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:18:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA20325 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:18:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA22795 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:11:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA22790 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:11:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmc9r-00038BC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 01:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: andersja@fm.unit.no (Anders Jacobsen) Subject: cmsg cancel Control: cancel Date: 18 Jan 1997 01:45:18 +0100 Message-ID: I am canceling my own article. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:47:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA20590 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:46:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA23174 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:43:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA23170 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:43:04 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:40:03 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA25347; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:41:33 GMT Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:41:32 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Bryan H." cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: address limits for distribution lists? In-Reply-To: <5c0opc$b6g@nnrp3.farm.idt.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Well, the source code is usually a good place to start searching for these things. A quick cd pine grep -i '#def.*addr' *.h revealed that the os.h file (a symbolic link to osdep/os-XXX.h where XXX is your platform code) contains: #define MAX_FULLNAME (100) #define MAX_NICKNAME (40) #define MAX_ADDRESS (200) #define MAX_NEW_LIST (500) /* Max addrs to be added when creating list */ #define MAX_SEARCH (100) /* Longest string to search for */ #define MAX_ADDR_EXPN (1000) /* Longest expanded addr */ #define MAX_ADDR_FIELD (10000) /* Longest fully-expanded addr field */ Now the problem is to decide which does what :-) Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 20 Jan 1997, Bryan H. wrote: > >If memory serves there _is_ a maximum number of e-mail addresses in a > >distribution list, but its somewhere around 1000 or 10,000 (or something). > > Sure enough, I am having trouble at about the 1100 mark. I can't find > this topic covered in Pine's help screen (although I'm sure it's been > talked about in this group before.) Anyone know where to read up on this > at? > > Bryan > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 02:02:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA20685 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 02:02:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA24914 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:57:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA24910 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 01:57:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmcvO-00038BC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 01:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rroberts@preferred.com (Rick Roberts) Subject: Re: PC-Pine: [BBOARD failed: Can't open mailbox *Mail/[]: no such bboard] Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 05:25:53 GMT Message-ID: <32e4526f.95952454@news.preferred.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think I followed the example given here correctly for getting Pine to access a POP3 account. I added this to my pinerc: incoming-folders="POP Account"{preferred.com/pop3}/usr/spool/mail/$USER I can't get PC Pine to access either way. I keep getting a "Bad Username or Password" return. I do know that my provider is using a shadow password system. Does this effect PC Pine? On 19 Jan 1997 05:06:06 -0800, uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ("Robin S. Socha") wrote: >On 19 Jan 1997, Jocelyn G wrote: > >>I just installed PC-Pine 3.95 on my computer (I'm on Win95), and I'm >>trying to connect to my Unix account with my OTHER account, with a PPP >>connection. The HELP file does not help me that much, and it seems I >>can't configure Pine to retrieve mail from the remote server. > >Now, there's some basic information missing. What kind of account are you >trying to access: POP3 or IMAP? It's possible (though cumbersome) to access >POP accounts with pine: > >:If you leave the 'normal' inbox the way it is (reading mail from >:/usr/spool/mail/username), but you enable incoming folders (one of >:the many checkboxes in Pine's setup), then you add that part under >:the Incoming-Folders= field. >: >: Incoming-Folders="POP Account #1" {mailhost.interl.net/pop3}INBOX, >: "POP Account #2" {mail.otherisp.com/pop3}INBOX, >: "POP Account #3" {mail.1234.org}INBOX > >There doesn't seem to be a solution to the "how can I make pine remember my >password"-question, though. > >>Does the error message "[BBOARD failed: Can't open mailbox *Mail/[]: no >>such bboard]" ring some bell to someone, and can anybody help me? > >Turn to your sys-admin for advice, because that's not a pine problem, but a >problem with the set-up of your "sendmail". i.e. the program that delivers >the mail into the net. > >>I have a very specific reason to use Pine, so don't suggest changing >>software, I'm already using another one, but I HAVE to use this new >>version of Pine also for some operations... > >On the contrary, I'd suggest not using any other program except pine, but >maybe I'm a bit biassed. > >Cheers, >Robin > >P.S. Is this becoming a FAQ? Is the abovementioned feature of pine being >added to the documentation? *nag* > >++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 > Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 > 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de >++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" > ... so I got myself Linux. >++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 03:12:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA21456 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 03:12:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA24023 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 03:06:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA24019 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 03:06:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmdzP-00038BC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 03:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Enrico I. Pangan" Subject: forwarding personal messages Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:31:21 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When replying to personal messages, how do i post it to newsgroups at the same time? This may not be gentlemanlike but there are instances when i really need to do this. Help me! /\/\/\/ | | [| 0 0 |] | ^ | .. |-----| .........................................(632)1277-73090 ... \___/ ..........................................enrico i pangan .... | | ......................................undergrad bcs upd.ph ... /\ /\ .............................epangan@zeus.engg.upd.edu.ph From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 03:29:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA21553 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 03:29:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA24228 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 03:26:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from kgu-prgw.kansai-gaidai-u.ac.jp (kgu-prgw.kansai-gaidai-u.ac.jp [202.233.164.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA24224 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 03:25:49 -0800 Received: by kgu-prgw.kansai-gaidai-u.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.4Wbeta5) id UAA06410 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:17:00 +0900 Received: from stu-mail.kansai-gaidai-u.ac.jp (stu-name.stu.kansai-gaidai-u.ac.jp [172.16.7.5]) by khc-pmail.khc.kansai-gaidai-u.ac.jp (8.6.12+2.4W/3.3W9) with ESMTP id UAA20409 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:18:45 +0900 Received: from localhost (fbnilsso@localhost) by stu-mail.kansai-gaidai-u.ac.jp (8.7.5+2.6Wbeta6/3.3W9) with SMTP id TAA13458 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:23:19 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:23:14 +0900 (JST) From: NILSSON-Bjorn-A X-Sender: fbnilsso@stu-name To: Pine Subject: A question concerning pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Bjorn Nilsson wrote: Hello! I have a question about pine. Since noone at this school in Japan seems to know it, I am sorry that I have to bother you. The question is about if there is any application in pine that enable you to store old messages. Sometimes you may want to save a message so you can go back and read mail you received one month ago, and I would be glad if someone can tell me how to do this. Another question is about the keyboard functions. I sometimes send mail to Sweden, and also receives mail from Sweden. The Swedish alphabet does not match the English alphabet, so some vocals that we have in the Swedish Language are missing or is displaced by another sign. Is it possible to change the setup in pine so Swedish characters is available? I am looking forward to your reply, and once again; I am sorry for bothering you with these simple questions. With best regards, //Bjorn Nilsson (A student at Kansai Gaidai University, Osaka, Japan.) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 06:50:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA22908 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 06:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA26486 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 06:42:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA26482 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 06:42:49 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:40:47 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id OAA27276; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:42:11 GMT Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:42:09 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Enrico I. Pangan" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forwarding personal messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Assuming that you already have Pine set up to work with Usenet News... 1. Start your e-mail message. 2. Put the cursor on a header line. 3. Type ^R to see all available headers (Rich Headers) 4. Put the name of the newsgroup(s) you want to post the message to in the Newsgroups: header line Note that this trick can also be used "the other way around" to send a copy of a Usenet News article through e-mail to someone (perhaps the original enquirer as a courtesy copy). Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Enrico I. Pangan wrote: > When replying to personal messages, how do i post it to newsgroups at the > same time? This may not be gentlemanlike but there are instances when i > really need to do this. Help me! > > /\/\/\/ > | | > [| 0 0 |] > | ^ | > .. |-----| .........................................(632)1277-73090 > ... \___/ ..........................................enrico i pangan > .... | | ......................................undergrad bcs upd.ph > ... /\ /\ .............................epangan@zeus.engg.upd.edu.ph > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 07:40:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA23812 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 07:40:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA27255 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 07:28:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from happy.com (happy.com [38.241.225.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA27251 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 07:28:20 -0800 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <18433>; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:20:39 -0500 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:25:27 -0500 From: SandraB Reply-To: SandraB To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Mike Brudenell Subject: "Sending error 55" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <97Jan21.102039est.18433@gateway.happy.com> I made a couple of typos while updating our numerous global addressbooks. The typos caused the error message: "Mail not sent. Sending error 554. One or more recipients failed." My question is, does pine have a "verbose mode" that will say EXACTLY which username(s) it didn't like? Mike, still have that source code in front of you?? :-) Thanks! ************************************************************************* Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 ************************************************************************* From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:40:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA25768 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:40:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA28384 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:32:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA28380 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:31:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmj4L-00038BC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 08:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Chaning key-bindings Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 16:34:43 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Would it be possible to change the keybindings somewhere, so that I could have Pine acting on RightArrow and LeftArrow to bring me to the next and previous message, respectively? \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:18:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA30858 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:18:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA04813 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:12:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from blue.csi.cam.ac.uk (blue.csi.cam.ac.uk [131.111.8.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA04808 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:12:43 -0800 Received: from ig204 by blue.csi.cam.ac.uk with smtp (Exim 1.58 #1) id 0vmlca-0001o3-00; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:12:36 +0000 Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:12:36 +0000 (GMT) From: "I. Ghosh" X-Sender: ig204@blue.csi.cam.ac.uk To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: help on attachments Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, i have received several mail messages with attachments but pine will not display the attachments.do you know how i might view the contents of the attachment files? thanks, indradeep ghosh girton college cambridge From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:27:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA31112 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:27:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA03116 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:20:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from hogw2.att.com (hogw2.att.com [204.179.186.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA03112 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:20:32 -0800 From: vikas@insight.att.com Original-From: vikas@insight.uucp Received: from socrates.insight.att.com by hoig2.att.att.com (SMI-8.6/EMS-1.2 sol2) id OAA04007; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:13:24 -0500 Received: from joshua.insight.att.com (joshua.insight.att.com [135.205.200.52]) by socrates.insight.att.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA18966 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:20:13 -0500 (EST) Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:19:09 -0500 (EST) Original-From: Vikas Agnihotri Reply-To: vikas@insight.att.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Hmm. 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From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:41:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA00215 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:41:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA06945 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:37:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA06941 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 12:37:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmmuB-00038WC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 12:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: PC-Pine: [BBOARD failed: Can't open mailbox *Mail/[]: no such bboard] Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:08:44 +0100 Message-ID: References: <32e4526f.95952454@news.preferred.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32e4526f.95952454@news.preferred.com> On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Rick Roberts wrote: > I can't get PC Pine to access either way. I keep getting a "Bad > Username or Password" return. PC Pine does not support POP3. \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:50:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA01877 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:50:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA07216 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:43:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA07210 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:43:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmnvc-00038XC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 13:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: izzy@izzy.com (Michael Israeli) Subject: Re: username not right: how do i change my reply-to address? Date: 21 Jan 1997 21:39:55 GMT Message-ID: References: In , Kevin Beason wrote: > > I am using (on a different account) a service from www.iname.com that > forwards my mail coming to their address to one I specify. > > How do I change my reply-to address to their address, so that my outgoing > mail has their address for the return address, instead of mine? > > All I can seem to do is change the domain, and not the username. > > Also, I am using UNIX Pine and I have it set to use their SMTP server. > Put simply, > > ***How do I change my reply-to address?!?!?!*** From the main menu, goto Setup, then Config. Add: customized-hdrs = Reply-To: whatever@whatever - Izzy From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:42:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA03071 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:42:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA09783 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:37:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA09779 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:37:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmoln-00038VC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 14:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tariq Ahmed Subject: PCPINE/POP/SMTP/What's the DEAL!? Date: 21 Jan 1997 20:44:41 GMT Message-ID: <5c39rp$fao@news.istar.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. PC Pine doesn't support POP as far as I can tell. Fine, I have an automated program which can download all my email to a local file. And Pine reads it no problem (read only, but who cares about that for now). But when I try to compose a message I get "can't send message without and open remote folder." What's the deal with this. Just SMTP the message. -- Tariq Ahmed iSTAR Internet Services tariq.ahmed@corp.istar.ca From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:06:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA03861 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA08980 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:02:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA08976 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:02:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmpCF-00038VC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 15:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Michael B. F. Wu" Subject: Installing IMAPd problem? Date: Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:02:59 +0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I followed the guidelines of "tech-note.txt" from pine 3.95 release to install the IMAP server on our mail server (Sun Sparc-2 SunOS 4.1.3) and use pine 3.95 on my machine (Sun Ultra-Sparc1 Solaris 2.5.1) to read my mailbox in mail server, it didn't work. I only set the inbox-path of ~/.pinerc to "{avant.avant.com.tw}inbox" to point out the location of my mailbox. I got the follwing error messages in ~/.pine-debug1 file. IMAP mm_notify bye : {avant.avant.com.tw}inbox : IMAP connection broken (server response) IMAP 12:45:36 1/17 mm_log ERROR: [CLOSED] IMAP connection broken (server response) For IMAPd server installation, I setup the following 3 things: 1. Copy imapd to /usr/etc. 2. add "imap 143/tcp #Mail transfer" in /etc/services 3. add "imap stream tcp nowait root /usr/etc/imapd imapd" in /etc/inetd.conf Please advise! Best Regards, Michael B. F. Wu -------------------------------------------------- Michael B. F. Wu Tel: 886-3-578-4252 michael@avant.com.tw Fax: 886-3-578-4253 Avant Technology Inc. -------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:54:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA04145 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:54:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA10180 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:50:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA10176 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:50:54 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:50:14 +0800 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:50:14 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: "I. Ghosh" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help on attachments In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, I. Ghosh wrote: > hi, > i have received several mail messages with attachments but pine will not > display the attachments.do you know how i might view the contents of the > attachment files? > thanks, What is pine telling you as to why it can't display the attachments? Maybe it is telling you something like: Don't know how to display application/octet-stream ? Tell us what pine is telling you and maybe we can help. -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:55:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA05287 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:54:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA11626 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:49:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA11616 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:48:55 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:48:09 +0800 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 07:48:08 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko Reply-To: Edward M Greshko To: SandraB cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, Mike Brudenell Subject: Re: "Sending error 55" In-Reply-To: <97Jan21.102039est.18433@gateway.happy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, SandraB wrote: > The typos caused the error message: > "Mail not sent. Sending error 554. One or more recipients failed." > > My question is, does pine have a "verbose mode" that will say EXACTLY which > username(s) it didn't like? > > Mike, still have that source code in front of you?? :-) Running pine3.95? Yes, I believe you are... Did you go to setup/config from the main menu? Did you search for the word "verbose"? Maybe not, huh? Otherwise you may have found: [ ] enable-verbose-smtp-posting FEATURE: enable-verbose-smtp-posting This feature controls an aspect of Pine's message sending. When enabled, Pine will send a VERB (i.e., VERBose) command early in the posting process intended to cause the server SMTP to provide a more detailed account of the transaction. This feature is typically only useful to system administrators and other support personel as an aid in troublshooting problems. Note, this feature relies on a specific capability of the system's mail transport agent or configured "smtp-server". It is possible that this feature will cause problems for some tranport agents, and may result in sending failure. In addition, as the verbose output comes from the mail transport agent, it is likely to vary from one system to another. No source code necessary, void where prohibited.... :-) :-) -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:27:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA08581 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:27:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA15206 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:18:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA15202 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:18:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmsBq-00038YC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 18:13 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: forwarding personal messages Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:47:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Enrico I. Pangan wrote: > When replying to personal messages, how do i post it to newsgroups at the > same time? This may not be gentlemanlike but there are instances when i > really need to do this. Help me! When the cursor is in the header area, before you send the message, press ^R (Ctrl-R) for "R"ich Headers. You should see a field for Newsgroups: which you can fill in. Then send the message as usual. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:15:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA09045 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:15:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA14328 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:08:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA14318 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:08:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmsxt-00038WC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 19:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: peter@ribeye.gtalumni.org (Peter N. Wan) Subject: Re: Pine vs. Netscape/Elm Date: 19 Jan 1997 05:28:39 -0500 Message-ID: <5bst0n$kn2@ribeye.gtalumni.org> References: <5bsfta$i3d$1@excalibur.flash.net> In article <5bsfta$i3d$1@excalibur.flash.net>, Bill Stewart wrote: >Nancy McGough wrote: > >> And the absolute best IMHO is that it is an IMAP, NNTP, and POP client >> all in one. > >How can Pine be used as a POP3 client? My understanding is that it works >with IMAP only. > >------------------------------- >Bill Stewart >wstewart@flash.net >http://www.flash.net/~wstewart/ Hi Bill, I have an incoming folder set in .pinerc as follows: incoming-folders={pop.mindspring.com/pop3}INBOX when I do M to get to the main menu and L to list my folders, I can tab to this entry and it will talk to my ISP using POP3 (I guess you leave off the /pop3 to get IMAP). Since I run a UNIX box with possible local mail delivery, I didn't set this as my "inbox-path".... This, by the way, is in Pine 3.95.... Peter -- Peter N. Wan / P.O. Box 19679 / Atlanta, Georgia 30325-0679 Compuserve: 76667,3564 Internet: peter.wan@mindspring.com PGP Key Fingerprint: 17 7A 7D D5 44 6B 66 10 70 C0 CB 30 27 B1 1C 83 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:30:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA09205 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA16157 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:23:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA16147 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:23:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmtCr-00038WC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 19:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: scripts for Pine with PGP? Date: 21 Jan 1997 13:51:47 GMT Message-ID: <5c2hlj$jq2$2@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [Posted and mailed] In article , Kevin Berry writes: > Does anyone know how I might be able to find some scripts that effectively > combine Pine and PGP into a usable form? Please visit the web page at: http://www.pharm.med.uc.edu/~yuan/ping_pgp.html and yes, you can do it! Jie -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == www.uc.edu/~yuanj = Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = using Knews (Irix5.3) == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:57:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA09492 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:57:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA14901 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:52:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Chaokhun.kmitl.ac.th (Chaokhun.kmitl.ac.th [161.246.10.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA14895 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:52:25 -0800 Received: by Chaokhun.kmitl.ac.th (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id KAA09846; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:53:15 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 10:53:15 -0700 (GMT) From: Rungrote Phonkam To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: test main Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:01:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA09543 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA14916 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:53:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA14912 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:53:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmtfZ-00038WC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 19:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Setting the default INBOX login name Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:17:35 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I use Pine under Linux to access a mailbox on the school's server, via IMAP. The problem is, that on my machine I have another login name than that at school, so when I access the mailbox, the default login name is my local name, which mean I have to erase that and enter the correct one. Can this be avoided, can I select the default name to use somewhere? \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 21:09:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA10128 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 21:09:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA17480 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 21:03:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA17476 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 21:03:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmup9-00038WC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 21:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Bug: Re: Hmm. This file is not an ASCII file. Transmission aborted !!! Date: 21 Jan 1997 23:21:18 GMT Message-ID: <5c3j1e$fi0@due.unit.no> References: [Posted to comp.mail.pine and mailed to the original poster as well as to the Clarinet postmaster.] In article , wrote: >Guys, I had requested some information from the ClariNet service by sending a >empty mail to info@clari.net. I got back this reply. But it is truncated with >the message >Hmm. This file is not an ASCII file. Transmission aborted > >I have never seen this message before. Can anyone tell me where this message >is coming from? [snip] > * _Syndicated Features_: The e.News includes the finest in columns > and features: the advice of Miss Manners, articles from the > science-humor journal Annals of Improbable Research and the > writing of Joe Bob Briggs, drive-in movie critic of Grapevine, > Texas. Editorial cartoons from around the world are featured, as > are comic strips such as Doonesbury, For Better or For Worse, Fox > Trot, and Caf > >Hmm. This file is not an ASCII file. Transmission aborted. My guess is that the word there is 'Café'. The 'é' (e with accent) character is an 8-bit character which is not in standard ASCII. Some program which that message passed through is still living in the stone age when text meant 7-bit ASCII. I tried to test by sending an empty message to info@clari.net myself, and my reply contains the same error. So I assume the error is somewhere at Clarinet. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 21:13:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA10175 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 21:13:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA15885 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 21:08:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA15878 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 21:08:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmuqJ-00038WC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 21:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kevin Beason Subject: username not right: how do i change my reply-to address? Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1997 17:14:55 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am using (on a different account) a service from www.iname.com that forwards my mail coming to their address to one I specify. How do I change my reply-to address to their address, so that my outgoing mail has their address for the return address, instead of mine? All I can seem to do is change the domain, and not the username. Also, I am using UNIX Pine and I have it set to use their SMTP server. Put simply, ***How do I change my reply-to address?!?!?!*** -Kevin Beason From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:33:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA11254 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:33:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA18840 for pine-info-out; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:29:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA18830 for ; Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:29:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmw72-00038WC; Tue, 21 Jan 97 22:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Setting the default INBOX login name Date: 21 Jan 1997 22:55:46 GMT Message-ID: <5c3hhi$f4c@due.unit.no> References: In article , Peter Karlsson wrote: > >Can this be avoided, can I select the default name to use somewhere? In Setup/Config, change {mailhost.whatever.se}inbox into {mailbox.whatever.se/user=myname}inbox. Similarly for your other remote folder collections. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:43:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA12756 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:43:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA19764 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:33:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA19760 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 01:33:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vmz3k-00038WC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 01:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Antila Juha Pekka Subject: Re: POP3: Keep messages on server Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:51:44 +0200 Message-ID: <32E67DE0.7DF5@tpu.fi> References: <32E016C1.6AF2@whowhere.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Rupesh Kapoor wrote: > > Hi, > > I am writing a pop client. Does anyone have suggestions on how to fetch > only the new messages if the user doesn't want the client to delete them > on server? I could do it using UIDL, but many servers don't support it. > > The netscape mail client seems to do a "TOP 0" ..., but even > TOP is non-portable. > > Thanks > Rupesh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:23:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA13734 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:23:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA22685 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:19:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA22681 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 03:19:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vn0fR-00038WC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 03:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: Pine and PC, need pop solution Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:57:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5bgiqj$2dv@news.istar.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Jeffrey Goldberg wrote: > Are you sure that PC-Pine doesn't do pop3? Only the Unix versions of Pine supports pop3. \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 04:14:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA14046 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 04:14:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA23364 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 04:09:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA23360 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 04:09:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vn1U4-00038YC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 04:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: A question concerning pine Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:33:13 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 21 Jan 1997, NILSSON-Bjorn-A wrote: > Hello! Hej hej! > Is it possible to change the setup in pine so Swedish characters is > available? What version are you using, more exactly? (For which operating system). Generally, it is as easy as setting the Character-set to iso-8859-1. To enter the extra characters, you'll need to have them on your keyboard, though. \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 04:14:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA14059 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 04:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA21776 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 04:09:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA21772 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 04:09:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vn1TZ-00038WC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 04:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: forwarding personal messages Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 14:11:23 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Enrico I. Pangan wrote: > When replying to personal messages, how do i post it to newsgroups at the > same time? This may not be gentlemanlike but there are instances when i > really need to do this. Help me! Add "Newsgroups" to your Customized-headers in the configuration, and when writing the message header, press Ctrl-R for Rich Headers, and you should get a line to write the name of the newsgroup(s) on. \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 05:18:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA14430 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 05:18:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA22493 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 05:15:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA22489 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 05:15:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vn2Su-00038YC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 05:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Martin Struwe Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 Patch #1 now available Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:08:21 +0100 Message-ID: <32E4CDD4.27BF@cs.uni-sb.de> References: <5bu10e$dhi$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit R. Stewart Ellis wrote: > > Martin Struwe writes: > > >Hmm... Looks like a new-style context diff to me... > >The text leading up to this was: > >-------------------------- > >|*** imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile.orig Fri Jun 21 14:25:45 1996 > >|--- imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile Tue Oct 15 15:28:55 1996 > >-------------------------- > >Patching file imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile using Plan A... > >patch: **** Overdue "---" at line 13--check line numbers at line 4 > > Did you get a failed file? Thank you. When I was looking for a failed file, I found my fault: I didn't set TMPDIR! :( -- Martin Struwe http://fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de/~struwe/ Zimmer 1.4.2 mailto:struwe@cs.uni-sb.de Richard-Wagner-Str. 91 66125 Dudweiler (Saar) Lehrstuhl Prof. Weikum: V+F: +49-6897-728308 Bau 36 Raum 322 Tel: +49-681-302-4847 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 06:23:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA14878 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 06:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA24841 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 06:19:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA24837 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 06:19:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vn3UV-00038ZC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 06:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aayan@rorqual.cc.metu.edu.tr (ahmet sedat ayan) Subject: auto reply??? Date: 22 Jan 1997 13:37:54 GMT Message-ID: <5c557i$gt9@mogan.cc.metu.edu.tr> hi all, Is it possible send an automatic reply message ? For example you are away for a vacation and you want your pine reply incoming mails with a mail like "I am away for vacation till ..." Is there any quick way of doing that in PINE? Thank you -- - Ahmet Ayan. E-mail : aayan@rorqual.cc.metu.edu.tr | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:27:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA17298 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:27:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA25343 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:19:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA25337 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 08:19:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vn5Mx-00038WC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 08:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jeffrey Goldberg Subject: Re: Pine and PC, need pop solution Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 17:10:11 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5bgiqj$2dv@news.istar.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5bgiqj$2dv@news.istar.ca> On 14 Jan 1997, Tariq Ahmed wrote: > I only have a PC, but PC-Pine doesn't support pop, and there's > no access to mount my mail dir from the PC. Are you sure that PC-Pine doesn't do pop3? Try inbox-path= {your.pop.host/pop3} -- Jeffrey Goldberg +44 (0)1234 750 111 x 2826 Cranfield Computer Centre FAX 751 814 J.Goldberg@Cranfield.ac.uk http://WWW.Cranfield.ac.uk/public/cc/cc047/ Relativism is the triumph of authority over truth, convention over justice. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:31:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA19360 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:31:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA28181 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:22:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from smtp.gte.net (radius3.gte.net [206.124.68.25]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA28177 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:22:30 -0800 Received: from 153.34.109.10 (Cust10.Max78.Los-Angeles.CA.MS.UU.NET [153.34.109.10]) by smtp.gte.net (SMI-8.6/) via SMTP id LAA08764 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:22:27 -0600 Message-ID: <32E64D00.6A64@GTE.NET> Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:23:12 -0800 From: "A.Weiser" Reply-To: WEISER@GTE.NET Organization: Express Concepts/ABC-Write X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: ms-tnef Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To who it may concern, I reviewed your letter on MS-TNEF in hopes of resolving a like problem. Where do i find a plug in for Netscape that can handle such a translation? Thanks. A. Weiser From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:32:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA22794 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:32:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA01606 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:25:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA01602 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 11:25:05 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vn8Fg-00038WC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 11:22 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Simon C Banks Subject: Re: Trying to Create HTML e-mail on Unix Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 10:13:34 +0000 Message-ID: <32E3454D.41C67EA6@cellnet.co.uk> References: <5bo5oc$2962@gens.dofasco.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Tom Hilbig wrote: > > I have some batch jobs that create reports on Unix and automatically mail > them to several people (just using mailx). However, the content is plain > text and I would like to format it using HTML instead. Can someone tell > me now to tell mailx (or elm, or pine) to interpret the text as > Content-type:text/html so the receiving client (Netscape Mail in my case) > will interpret the information properly. What are the command line > options to do this? for binmail (/usr/bin/mail) -s "Subject of mail" Just about covers it. So /usr/bin/mail -s "A report" dest@email < report.001.txt will email dest@email with report.001.txt with a subject header of "A report". If you wanna set the From header then your probably better off dricing sendmail direct which is another kettle of fish. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Where ignorance is bliss, wisdom is folly | ------------------------------------------------------------------ | Name: Simon Banks (Si++) Address: Cellnet Ltd | | Tel: 01-753-564225 CSC Building | | Fax: 01-753-564066 Brunel Way | | Mobile: 0850-980694 Slough | | Home: NaN SL1 1XL | ------------------------------------------------------------------ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:13:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA23862 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA01148 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:05:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA01144 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:05:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vn8sF-00038WC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 12:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Pine vs. Netscape/Elm Date: 19 Jan 1997 22:20:47 GMT Message-ID: References: <32E022EE.3133D801@inm.ras.ru> jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Tse): > Pine works in a UNIX shell, that's very convenient when I am out-of-town > --- I can just telnet to my UNIX account and use Pine to check e-mails. Well, I am sure this applies to all no-graphical mailers. ;-) > Pine's input line editing is more convenient than Elm's. You can link ELM with GNU readline which gives you all the editing you need - and almost everything you never dreamed of and will never use. ;-) > And as others have said, Pine has more configuration options than Elm. But Netscape has more buttons! ;-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:17:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA25569 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:17:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA04379 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:10:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA04372 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:10:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vn9sh-00038WC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 13:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: djheydt@uclink.berkeley.edu (Dorothy J Heydt) Subject: How do I get off the mailing list? Date: 22 Jan 1997 21:03:21 GMT Message-ID: <5c5vap$ekp@agate.berkeley.edu> Hi, people, sorry to bother you with this, but there doesn't seem to be any other alternative. All day now the Pine people at Washington have been sending me MASSIVE email advertising saying "Thanks for using Pine, here's some interesting new upgrades." Screenfuls of the stuff. I don't use Pine and don't wish to. So I sent a message back to the sender, saying, Not interested, please stop sending me this stuff. The message hit the mail-robot and returned with an automatic reply ending "Thanks for your interest in Pine." I have no interest in Pine. I sent messages to other email addresses listed by the robot, saying, Look what your silly robot did, please do not assume that the whole world is your audience of Pine users. These messages all got bounced by the same or other robots, all ending with a cheery, "Thanks for your interest in Pine." I _still_ have no interest in Pine. Please, would somebody mail me an address read by human beings, not robots, with whom I can lodge a mild complaint, without being thanked once more for my nonexistent interest in Pine? Thanks. Dorothy J. Heydt djheydt@uclink.berkeley.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:26:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA25871 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:26:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA03321 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:20:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA03312 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:20:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnA2a-00038WC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 13:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: aol594@merle.acns.nwu.edu (Arsenio Oloroso) Subject: Unix shell--How to? Date: 21 Jan 1997 20:32:21 GMT Message-ID: <5c394l$d80@news.acns.nwu.edu> Can anyone tell me how to start a Unix shell while in Pine? Thanks for any advice. -- %^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%%^%^% Arsenio M. Oloroso, Jr., Assoc. Editor (312) 649-5333 Crain's Chicago Business a-oloroso@nwu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:42:02 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA26351 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:42:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA05072 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:35:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA05068 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:35:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnAFr-00038YC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 13:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Hispanic Culture Review Subject: Help figuring out how to get "confirmation of receipt" in Pine Date: 20 Jan 1997 05:19:36 GMT Message-ID: <5buv98$43f@portal.gmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi: I am new to Pine and i was wondering if any of you knew how to enable some type of confirmation of receipt. Thanks in advance, Heraldo Falconi hcr@gmu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:43:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA26384 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:43:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA03619 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:35:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA03615 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:35:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnAIS-00038ZC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 13:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: auto reply??? Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 18:35:16 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5c557i$gt9@mogan.cc.metu.edu.tr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5c557i$gt9@mogan.cc.metu.edu.tr> On 22 Jan 1997, ahmet sedat ayan wrote: > Is it possible send an automatic reply message ? For example > you are away for a vacation and you want your pine reply incoming > mails with a mail like "I am away for vacation till ..." To do that, you don't need pine, but instead a program called 'vacation'. It is available on most Unix systems (or, at least it was available on the one I receive my mail on, when I used it during the Christmas holidays). \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:41:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA27857 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:41:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA06431 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:36:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA06421 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:36:10 -0800 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.8.3/8.5) with SMTP id QAA00253; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:26:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:26:09 -0600 (CST) From: Robert J Wilshe Reply-To: Robert J Wilshe To: Arsenio Oloroso cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unix shell--How to? In-Reply-To: <5c394l$d80@news.acns.nwu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Arsenio: Check in your Pine Configuration (from Main Menu, type "S", "C") to see if the "enable-suspend" option is set. This will allow you to exit Pine momentarily and work in the shell while Pine works in the background. When you've finished you shell jobs, just type "fg" to bring Pine back to the "foreground". Don't forget this last step else you'll have a maillock to deal with next time you start Pine. Hope this helps! \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ robert depaul university joseph chicago illinois wilshe u s a email rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// On 21 Jan 1997, Arsenio Oloroso wrote: RJW> Can anyone tell me how to start a Unix shell while in Pine? RJW> RJW> Thanks for any advice. RJW> -- RJW> %^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%%^%^% RJW> Arsenio M. Oloroso, Jr., Assoc. Editor (312) 649-5333 RJW> Crain's Chicago Business a-oloroso@nwu.edu RJW> RJW> From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:54:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA30018 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:54:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA06750 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:46:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA06745 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:46:43 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 07:46:04 +0800 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 07:46:04 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Arsenio Oloroso cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unix shell--How to? In-Reply-To: <5c394l$d80@news.acns.nwu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 21 Jan 1997, Arsenio Oloroso wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to start a Unix shell while in Pine? pine is alread in a shell. So, ctrl-z to suspend pine and get back to the shell. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:00:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA31758 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:00:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA10127 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:57:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA10123 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:57:24 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) id OAA12450; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:22:20 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:22:19 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: Arsenio Oloroso cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Unix shell--How to? In-Reply-To: <5c394l$d80@news.acns.nwu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Go to Main menu, then Setup, then Config, find the line reading 'enable-suspend' and hit the ENTER key. You should have an X in the box after that. Now, whenever you want to shell out to Unix, do a Ctrl-Z key combination. To return to pine, type fg at the prompt. Greg batchman@liberty.com On 21 Jan 1997, Arsenio Oloroso wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to start a Unix shell while in Pine? > > Thanks for any advice. > -- > %^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%%^%^% > Arsenio M. Oloroso, Jr., Assoc. Editor (312) 649-5333 > Crain's Chicago Business a-oloroso@nwu.edu > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:05:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA31861 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:05:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA10068 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:55:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA10064 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 16:55:36 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnDOf-00038ZC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 16:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mfriend@indiana.edu (Michelle) Subject: Re: help on attachments Date: 22 Jan 1997 17:57:25 GMT Message-ID: <5c5ke5$cbe@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> References: Hi! Pine won't be able to display an attachment which is not in plain text. You can save the attachment as a file in your home directory, FTP it to a local machine, and use another program to view the file (such as a word processor or graphics program, depending on what format the attachment is.) For more detailed instructions, check out this URL: http://sckb.ucssc.indiana.edu/kb/data/kaah.html --Michelle I. Ghosh (ig204@hermes.cam.ac.uk) wrote: > hi, > i have received several mail messages with attachments but pine will not > display the attachments.do you know how i might view the contents of the > attachment files? > thanks, > indradeep ghosh > girton college > cambridge > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:36:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA32497 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:36:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA09401 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:31:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA09394 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 17:31:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnDxC-00038YC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 17:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: libove*@*felines.org (Jay Vassos-Libove) Subject: occasional pauses (asterisks at upper left) Date: 23 Jan 1997 00:47:43 GMT Message-ID: <5c6cff$8ni@camel5.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii [ Remove "*" from e-mail address before replying! Spam bait. *sigh* ] What are the occasional pauses where PINE puts a couple of asterisks in the upper left hand corner and the disk gets very busy? Is there some way to eliminate them or at least make them less frequent, and if so what is the trade-off? On my Alpha machine with 96M RAM, they aren't too bad... on my 486 at home with 32M RAM and 1000 mail messages in my inbox (*grin*) they're pretty obnoxious. Thanks! -- Jay Vassos-Libove Senior Software Engineer +1 (770) 552-0543 (home) Computer Generation, Inc. +1 (404) 705-2867 (work) libove*@*compgen.com postmaster*@*compgen.com webmaster*@*compgen.com [ Remove "*" from e-mail address before replying! Spam bait. *sigh* ] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:53:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA01170 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:52:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA11505 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:48:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA11501 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:48:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnG2u-00038YC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 19:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Tony Gonzalez Subject: Re: unix: pipe to cat throws me in a viewer? Date: 23 Jan 1997 03:01:36 GMT Message-ID: <5c6kag$d6u@nexp.crl.com> References: <5bkma4$qdg@nexp.crl.com> <5c0vks$ibs@due.unit.no> Orjan Johansen wrote: : In article <5bkma4$qdg@nexp.crl.com>, Tony Gonzalez wrote: : >If I pipe a message to 'cat' I get into a viewer, : >and the message never scrolls through the screen : >from beginning to end. Anyone know what gives? : Any output from a piped command is shown in a viewer, as you say. The : viewer accepts the usual pine browsing keys. : Maybe if you do 'cat >/dev/tty' it will get around that; I haven't : checked. This worked, but the text was all over the place, that is, the lines didn't all begin on the first column....it seemed like all the line feeds had been removed. Thanks -Tony . . . . . . . . . . . . ._______________________________________. | oak@crl.com | http://www.crl.com/~oak | |_____________|___ Southern California _| From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:20:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA01296 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:20:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA12111 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:17:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA12107 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:17:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnGV8-00038YC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 20:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: How can I read newsgroups with pine? Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 23:55:57 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Maitham Shams wrote: > Could someone answer the question please. When you'in in the main menu, press S for Setup, C for Config, then look for the field "nntp-server". Put the address of your news server in it. That's all! Hope it helps. ----------------------------------------------- Eric Tse jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~jyetse/ HTML, Perl, message system, video games, & more From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:14:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA02230 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:14:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA14496 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:11:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA14492 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:11:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnHPO-00038YC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 21:09 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Will these be in 4.0? Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:01:59 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 17 Jan 1997, Steve Lamb wrote: > From: Steve Lamb > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Will these be in 4.0? > Date: 17 Jan 1997 18:18:28 GMT > Organization: We're organized?! > Message-ID: > NNTP-Posting-Host: web1.calweb.com > X-Newsreader: slrn (0.9.2.1 BETA UNIX) > > I know tha tI have some specific needs here, but I'm pretty sure I'm not > the only one who is chafing against the current pine restrictions. I am > wondering if the e-mail gods at UW will be including any of these in 4.0. > > 1: A way to *SAVE* username/password for IMAP logins in the *nix versions. > > Yeah, yeah, I know it is a security hole, yadda, yadda, yadda. But with > more and more people using Linux as their home OS, such as myself, it really > isn't an issue. We have console access on the machines, we're pretty sure > we're the only ones that are going to use it, let *US* decide if our system > is secure or not. It is done for the OS/2 and Win95 versions of Pine under > the same assumption. Nope. It shouldn't be too hard to add this yourself. Take a look at the #ifdefs in pine/imap.c... > > 2: Sub-folders. > > 'nuff said. Yes. > > 3: Notification of new mail in the folders listing. > > Mailing lists for the mail, procmail for the filtering, and the $10k > question, which mailboxes have mail *THIS* week. Checking 20-30 mailboxes > each time I check mail (multiple times a day) is tedious. Wouldn't a simple > file with a timestamp of the last check by pine v. the current timestamp on > the file be enough to know if there is new mail in the folders? Probably not in 4.00. We may try to put an indication in for the incoming-folders in a later 4.x version. > > I ask about those three things because they are what I've grown > accustomed to with my Win95 & OS/2 mail software. However, since I access > my mail from multiple sites IMAP is the best solution for me. Linux at > home, Win95 & FreeBSD at work, OS/2 at times from home, all have Pine and > all suffer from the same limitation. :/ > > -- > Steve C. Lamb | Opinions expressed by me are not my > http://www.calweb.com/~morpheus | employer's. They hired me for my > PGP key upon request | skills and labor, not my opinions! > ---------------------------------------+------------------------------------- > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:26:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA02375 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:26:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA13110 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:22:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ecn.net.au (warp.ecn.net.au [203.22.70.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA13106 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 21:22:44 -0800 Received: from brecom.UUCP by ecn.net.au with UUCP id AA12391 (5.67b/IDA-1.5 for cac.washington.edu!pine-info); Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:53:42 +1000 Received: from unixdev by brecom.amh.com.au id aa15375; 23 Jan 97 14:59 EST Received: from kevin by unixdev.amh.com.au id aa06349; 23 Jan 97 15:01 aest Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:05:12 +0900 (EST) From: Kevin B Fleming To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: PC Pine and Win 95 Message-Id: X-X-Sender: kevin@unixdev Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII With Windows 3.x when Pine is minimised and received a message - the icon changes to red. Under Win95 however, this feature seems to be lost! How are Win95 users to know when a message has been received ? Thanks, Kevin ____________________________________________________________ _--_|\ Kevin B Fleming kevin@amh.com.au internal phone: 40225 / AMH Network Administrator phone: +61 7 3810-2225 \_.--._/ Australia Meat Holdings fax: +61 7 3816-0535 v ... Don't lend people money - It only promotes amnesia ... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:09:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA02825 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:09:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA13789 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:06:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA13785 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:06:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnIGr-00038YC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 22:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: print index to a file Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:29:07 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 13 Jan 1997, Nancy McGough wrote: > I'd like to print the index of a pine folder to a file. > In earlier versions of pine (e.g., 3.91) I had my > printer set to: > > cat > print.tmp This works for me. Do you get any error messages? Does your .pine-debug file reveal anything? --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller dlm@cac.washington.edu (206) 685-6240 |/ |_ | | Software Engineer, Pine Development Team (206) 685-4045 (FAX) University of Washington, Networks & Distributed Computing, Box 354841 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA Stardate: [-31]8769.47 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:11:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA02870 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:11:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA15348 for pine-info-out; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:06:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA15341 for ; Wed, 22 Jan 1997 22:06:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnIGr-00038ZC; Wed, 22 Jan 97 22:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: suzane langlois Subject: RE: How can we download files with pine ? Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 15:37:50 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here the answers i received ,thanks to all. Suzane ------------------------------------------------ From: Stephen Giggar To: suzane langlois Subject: Re: Can we download many files ? On Tue, 31 Dec 1996, suzane langlois wrote: > With PINE is it possible to download all the files together > with wildcard from a specific directory to our pc > or only print one at a time on the screen ? > Thank you. > SD > > > Suzane Langlois > > > Pine isn't a ftp program. It is a e-mail reader. You can download ,savw , export several attn at one time. ------------------------------------------------------------ From: Kenny & Michelle Johnson I need more information to answer the question. Are you talking about downloading files from a main directory, or from an e-mail/newsgroup folder? >From an e-mail/newsgroup folder, type ; a a e name a file, then download that file. Downloading several files at a time (through my account) is done by listing the file names, followed by a comma and a space. This is not done through pine, though. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions. _ _ ____ _ _ _ _ _ _ ( )/ ) ( __) ( \( ) ( \( ) ( \/ ) "Most men live lives of quiet ) ( ) _) ) ( ) ( \ / desperation." H. D. Thoreau (_)\_) (____) (_)\_) (_)\_) (__) kajohnso@lonestar.jpl.utsa.edu ----------------------------------------------------- From: Derek Tattersall Subject: Re: How to downloadd many files ? . I hope this helps: In Pine, you can tag messages from the "Index" screen, with ";aae". The semi-colon is the tag; the "a" is for "all" (you can also tag selected messages by number); the 2nd "a" is for "apply", and "e" is for "export. Then you'll be asked for a file name. Once it's named, you can go out of pine, and at the command prompt (cam%) type "sz filename". This will download using zmodem. If this isn't clear, or not what you were asking, let me know. djt ----------------------------------------------------------------- From: Chet Lad Wildcards can be used for downloading from the pine program. Best way to di it is by exporting it as a series of say a1,a2,a3.... files to your unix and then using (sz a*) downloads all the files. Amit ............................................................................ : .---. .----------- : : / \ __ / ------ AMIT PAWAR : END: .---. .----------- : : / \ __ / ------ AMIT PAWAR : : / / \(oo)/ ----- : : ////// ' \/ ` --- 12-B/47, Uday Rekha, Manish Nagar, : : //// / // : : --- Andheri(w), Mumbai-400053. : : // / / /` '-- India. : : // //..\\ : : --UU----UU-- Email :abhijit@giasbma.vsnl.net.in : : '//||\\` Tel/Fax:91-22-6235356 : :......................................................................... From: greenleaf In Ref. to Can we download many files ? Would it be possible for you to share the answer for your above question ? because we are also having the same doubt or problem. Reason : Insteaded of posting to news group, the same message again, it is always wise to ask people who have already posted the same doubt & got answer/feedback. What was the feed back +ve or -ve.... ? please advice. Please don't keep hanging. Regards Nikhil Greenleaf Software E-mail : "grenleaf@bom2.vsnl.net.in" ---------------------------------------------- Done ! Suzane Langlois From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:50:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA03986 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:50:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA17338 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:47:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA17334 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:47:42 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnKjX-00038YC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 00:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kong Sing Yeong Subject: Re: Unix shell--How to? Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:34:30 +0000 Message-ID: References: <5c394l$d80@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5c394l$d80@news.acns.nwu.edu> Press ctrl-z to go to the shell, and fg to return to pine. I think there's an option under setup to enable this... Sing Yeong On 21 Jan 1997, Arsenio Oloroso wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to start a Unix shell while in Pine? > > Thanks for any advice. > -- > %^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%^%%^%^% > Arsenio M. Oloroso, Jr., Assoc. Editor (312) 649-5333 > Crain's Chicago Business a-oloroso@nwu.edu > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:50:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA03990 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:50:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA15865 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:47:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA15861 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:47:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnKjX-00038bC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 00:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zack@psg.com Subject: help! Please! why is pine folders Read Only! Can't Send! Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:22:09 GMT Message-ID: <32e4a632.4201926@news.computan.on.ca> All of a sudden I have errors on my pine mail when I try to send out. I think it has something to do with my folders saying read-only. My error says something like queqename can't be found. Please help if you can. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:51:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA03996 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA15871 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:47:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA15867 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 00:47:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnKjY-00038cC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 00:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rkm@mcleod.com (Kevin McLeod) Subject: Bounce messages using Pine & Procmail? Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 23:53:36 GMT Message-ID: <32e6a80a.1163023@nntp.ix.netcom.com> Is there any generally-accepted technique for using procmail to bounce messages? The docs for procmail & filter both seem to indicate that they're only useful for "filing" messages (which I've done successfully), but I'd like to bounce some messages before I download them to my client (Pegasus, which will handle this, I know). TIA, Kevin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 01:53:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA04416 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 01:53:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA18028 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 01:43:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA18024 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 01:43:11 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:41:21 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA10642; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:37:54 GMT Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:37:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Jay Vassos-Libove cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: occasional pauses (asterisks at upper left) In-Reply-To: <5c6cff$8ni@camel5.mindspring.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The asterisks that occasionally appear in the top left corner of Pine's screen are it telling you that it is either checking for new mail or checkpointing your mailbox to disk. If you want to hide the asterisks (without altering the functioning of the checks) you can use the enable-mail-check-cue option in the Setup Configuration screen. Its built-in help says this: If set, this feature will cause an asterisk to appear in the upper left-hand corner of the screen whenever Pine checks for new mail, and two asterisks whenever Pine saves (checkpoints) the state of the current mailbox to disk. If the delays are causing you problems you can reduce their frequency by increasing the interval with which Pine checks for new mail arriving (or even turn this check off altogether). This is controlled by the mail-check-interval option. Its help says: This options specifies, in seconds, how often Pine will check for new mail. If set to zero, new-mail checking is disabled. There is a minimum value, normally 15 seconds. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 23 Jan 1997, Jay Vassos-Libove wrote: > [ Remove "*" from e-mail address before replying! Spam bait. *sigh* ] > > What are the occasional pauses where PINE puts a couple of asterisks > in the upper left hand corner and the disk gets very busy? > > Is there some way to eliminate them or at least make them less frequent, > and if so what is the trade-off? > > On my Alpha machine with 96M RAM, they aren't too bad... on my 486 at > home with 32M RAM and 1000 mail messages in my inbox (*grin*) they're > pretty obnoxious. > > Thanks! > > -- > Jay Vassos-Libove > Senior Software Engineer +1 (770) 552-0543 (home) > Computer Generation, Inc. +1 (404) 705-2867 (work) > libove*@*compgen.com postmaster*@*compgen.com webmaster*@*compgen.com > [ Remove "*" from e-mail address before replying! Spam bait. *sigh* ] > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 02:40:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA04692 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 02:40:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA18600 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 02:36:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA18596 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 02:36:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnMTV-00038YC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 02:33 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bart Thijs Subject: multiple news-servers, multiple .newsrc Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 00:46:42 +0000 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I'm connected to several news-servers because they offer different news-groups. But at this moment i'm only using one .newsrc-file in which all the subscribed newsgroups are listed. That is becoming a bit inconvenient. So, is it possible to have more than one .newsrc-file: one for each server, i'm connected to tnx Bart Thijs pink@kotnet.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 03:01:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA04848 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 03:01:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA17319 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 02:57:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA17315 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 02:57:48 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:55:25 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id KAA13052; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:56:59 GMT Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:56:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Bart Thijs cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: multiple news-servers, multiple .newsrc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Pine 3.95 does not support multiple .newsrc files, I'm afraid. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Bart Thijs wrote: > Hi, > > I'm connected to several news-servers because they offer different > news-groups. But at this moment i'm only using one .newsrc-file > in which all the subscribed newsgroups are listed. > That is becoming a bit inconvenient. > So, is it possible to have more than one .newsrc-file: > one for each server, i'm connected to > > tnx > Bart Thijs > pink@kotnet.org > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 06:50:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA06379 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 06:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA21611 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 06:44:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost.pi.net (mailhost.pi.net [145.220.3.9]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA21604 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 06:44:42 -0800 Received: from abt173 (ah17.pi.net [145.220.203.17]) by mailhost.pi.net (8.8.3/8.7.1) with SMTP id PAA24319 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:44:37 +0100 (MET) Posted-Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:44:37 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <32E77930.76A8@pi.net> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:44:00 +0100 From: Afdeling AE Organization: Planet Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01E-PI-32 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pinerc question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Pine users, I'm new to pine (Pc-pine) and i was wondering if it's possible to tell pine where to find its pinerc file using some command parameter. Does anyone know about this feature or some way to tell pine to look in a differnent directory, depending on the user ? (Im trying to setup pine on a PC-NFS network with Solaris 2.4 as file/print/imap server and DOS/WIN clients) Anyone? Thanks in advance! R.M. Ahsmann System Administrator From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 07:16:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA06694 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 07:16:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA20411 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 07:12:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA20407 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 07:12:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnQn3-00038BC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 07:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: news@HAMMER.msfc.nasa.gov Message-ID: Control: cancel <32E7F79D.4E78@193.6.14.65> Subject: cmsg cancel <32E7F79D.4E78@193.6.14.65> no reply ignore Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:05:37 GMT ignore Make Money Fast post canceled by news@news.msfc.nasa.gov. Make Money Fast has been posted thousands of times, enough to qualify as cancel-on-sight spam. The chain letter scheme it describes is illegal in many countries. For example, see: http://www.usps.gov/websites/depart/inspect/chainlet.htm J. Porter Clark, d/b/a The Unknown News Administrator From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:47:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA13188 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:47:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA27392 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:43:06 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA27385 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:42:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnU51-00038WC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 10:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Richelle Subject: Problem using two or more "News collection"'s Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 14:34:16 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hello, To be able to access a given news group I had to add a second News collection linked to a different news server. Nice, that's possible with Pine. But ... The news groups selected in the initial News server (News collection) appear also in the other one ! and when I suscribe to a group that exist only in the second news server, at next launch of Pine, it will appear also in the first one. Thats strange - is it normal ? I tried to post a message in a news group of the second news server I got the warning =09"Unknown user group: symantec.support.mac.nortonutilities.general" However I could read a lot of messages from this group =09I could post the message using Netscape (sorry, I really wanted to post my message now) Could it be a problem of name length (the group name is really huge, isn't it). Thank you in advance for help Jean ___________________________________________________________________________= __ Jean Richelle Unit=E9 de Conformation des Macromol=E9cules Biologiques Tel: 32-2-650= 35 87 Universit=E9 libre de Bruxelles FAX: 32-2-648 8= 9 54 av. FD Roosevelt 50 - CP160/16, B-1050 Bruxelles, Belgium ___________________________________________________________________________= __ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:24:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA14104 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:24:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA28454 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:20:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA28450 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:19:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnUeN-00038ZC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 11:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Use "8bit" encoding for News. Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:18:42 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: Yes. In the Setup/Config screen, select the enable-8bit-nntp-posting feature. --DLM --=20 |\ | |\/| David L. Miller FAX: (206)685-4045 | Great spirits have alwa= ys |/ |_ | | dlm@cac.washington.edu (206)685-6240 | encountered violent Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | opposition from mediocr= e Box 354841, University of Washington | minds. -- A. Einstein 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, Jean Richelle wrote: > From: Jean Richelle > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Use "8bit" encoding for News. > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:39:11 +0100 > Organization: Brussels Free Universities VUB/ULB > Message-ID: > NNTP-Posting-Host: ucmbsun2.ulb.ac.be > Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE > X-Sender: jean@knopf >=20 > Hello, >=20 > After posting in a french news group, I got a message telling me that I > should avoid using "QUOTED-PRINTABLE" because many news readers do not > handle it properly and that the accepted stantdard is "8bit". >=20 > In Pine is it possible to select 8bit only for the news ? >=20 > Jean >=20 > _________________________________________________________________________= ____ > Jean Richelle > Unit=E9 de Conformation des Macromol=E9cules Biologiques Tel: 32-2-6= 50 35 87 > Universit=E9 libre de Bruxelles FAX: 32-2-648= 89 54 > av. FD Roosevelt 50 - CP160/16, B-1050 Bruxelles, Belgium > _________________________________________________________________________= ____ >=20 >=20 >=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:24:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA14105 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:24:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA26899 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:19:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA26895 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 11:19:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnUd7-00038YC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 11:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: occasional pauses (asterisks at upper left) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:15:12 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5c6cff$8ni@camel5.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 23 Jan 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > The asterisks that occasionally appear in the top left corner of Pine's > screen are it telling you that it is either checking for new mail or > checkpointing your mailbox to disk. > > If you want to hide the asterisks (without altering the functioning of the > checks) you can use the enable-mail-check-cue option in the Setup > Configuration screen. Its built-in help says this: > > If set, this feature will cause an asterisk to appear in the upper > left-hand corner of the screen whenever Pine checks for new mail, > and two asterisks whenever Pine saves (checkpoints) the state of > the current mailbox to disk. > > If the delays are causing you problems you can reduce their frequency by > increasing the interval with which Pine checks for new mail arriving (or > even turn this check off altogether). This is controlled by the > mail-check-interval option. Its help says: > > This options specifies, in seconds, how often Pine will check for > new mail. If set to zero, new-mail checking is disabled. There > is a minimum value, normally 15 seconds. Note that this does not affect checkpointing, which typically involves a longer delay than the new mail check. --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller FAX: (206)685-4045 | Watch the stars, and from |/ |_ | | dlm@cac.washington.edu (206)685-6240 | them learn. To the Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | Master's honor all must Box 354841, University of Washington | turn, each in its track, 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | without a sound, forever | tracing Newton's ground. | -- A. Einstein From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 13:01:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA00053 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 13:01:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA01648 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 12:52:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uu7.psi.com (uu7.psi.com [38.8.39.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA01639 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 12:52:52 -0800 Received: from whirlaway.ci.com by uu7.psi.com (5.65b/4.0.940727-PSI/PSINet) via SMTP; id AA15725 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 97 15:47:27 -0500 Received: from superglide.ci.com by whirlaway.ci.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA24455; Thu, 23 Jan 97 15:48:30 EST Message-Id: <32E7CEA0.34F1@ci.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:48:32 -0500 From: Kenn Goutal Organization: Cognition Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (X11; I; SunOS 5.5 sun4c) Mime-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Pine for X-windows? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I use Pine on a UNIX box (via terminal emulator and dial-up) at home, and I LOVE it. (My kids do, too.) At work, use CDE (Common Desktop Environment) on X-Windows on Sun/Solaris. Is there a version of Pine that does all the things Pine does so well, and uses all the same file formats, but uses the X-windows interface to allow point'n'click operation using a mouse? -- Kenn Goutal Customer Support PHN: 617.271.9300 x233 Cognition Corporation FAX: 617.271.0813 NET: support@ci.com WWW: http://www.ci.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:05:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA17494 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:05:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA05053 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:01:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from moose.erie.net (moose.erie.net [208.138.204.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA05044 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:01:02 -0800 Received: from packard-bell (ts38.erie.net [208.138.205.38]) by moose.erie.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) with SMTP id RAA22796 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:01:03 -0500 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970123170026.00686fe4@erie.net> X-Sender: frantic@erie.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:00:32 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Frantic Subject: packet driver Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi.. I need a dos packet driver for a dos application I have.. It has to be able to dial out with my modem and make a connection.. Cuz I use dial up networking for the internet, and the proggie I am trying to run don't like that.. can you please send me it via email? Thx From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:46:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA19323 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA04250 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:42:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gold.ac.uk (scorpio.gold.ac.uk [158.223.1.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA04246 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:42:05 -0800 Received: from localhost by gold.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id WAA28555; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 22:41:29 GMT Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 22:41:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Gabriel Egan To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: upload-command Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've set the 'upload-command' (MainMenu/Setup/Config) to kermit -r -a _FILE_ to enable shelling out from the Composer to Unix to upload a file via Kermit which pine can then suck into the message being composed. (Pine picks a temporary name which it puts in place of the token _FILE_). BUT having got the file into my home directory, pine goes looking for it in /usr/tmp rather than in my home directory. How can I make pine look in the right place? Gabriel Egan Shakespeare Institute From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:57:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA19738 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:57:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA06613 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:53:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA06608 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:53:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnXy5-00038BC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 14:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: csg@clavinova.eng.sun.com (Carl S. Gutekunst) Subject: Re: Trying to Create HTML e-mail on Unix Date: 23 Jan 1997 21:39:52 GMT Message-ID: <5c8lr8$hum@engnews1.Eng.Sun.COM> References: <5bo5oc$2962@gens.dofasco.ca> In article <5bo5oc$2962@gens.dofasco.ca>, Tom Hilbig wrote: >Can someone tell me now to tell mailx (or elm, or pine) to interpret the text >as Content-type:text/html so the receiving client (Netscape Mail in my case) >will interpret the information properly. No can do with mailx -- it's not MIME aware, and won't set the MIME headers that are needed by the received client. Elm and Pine are both MIME mailers, but I don't think either has a command-line interface -- someone literate in those could tell you. You really have three choices: · Talk to sendmail directly. This means generating all the headers yourself. Not advised, but this is the real hacker's way to go. · Get a copy of metamail 2.7, and use that to compose the message, which is then piped to sendmail. This is lightweight, simple, and fairly idiot proof software, but rather primitive. · Get a copy of MH 6.8.3. This is a full-featured command-line-based mail client, which may be more than you wish to chew off, but it will give you the most flexability with the least hackery. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:53:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA21767 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:53:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA06232 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:49:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA06227 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:49:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnYrJ-00038BC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 15:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: occasional pauses (asterisks at upper left) Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 20:40:36 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5c6cff$8ni@camel5.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5c6cff$8ni@camel5.mindspring.com> When there is a single asterisk in the upper left hand corner, Pine is checking for new mail. This is usually pretty fast, but may cause a noticable delay. The double asterisk means that Pine is checkpointing the folder. With the default unix folder format, Pine has to completely re-write the folder during a checkpoint. Other folder formats can be updated in place, which is much faster for large folders. For info on alternate folder formats, see http://www.washington.edu/pine/tech-notes/low-level --DLM -- |\ | |\/| David L. Miller FAX: (206)685-4045 | Common sense is the |/ |_ | | dlm@cac.washington.edu (206)685-6240 | collection of prejudices Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | acquired by age 18. -- A. Box 354841, University of Washington | Einstein 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | On 23 Jan 1997, Jay Vassos-Libove wrote: > From: Jay Vassos-Libove > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: occasional pauses (asterisks at upper left) > Date: 23 Jan 1997 00:47:43 GMT > Organization: MindSpring Enterprises > Sender: libove@compgen.com > Message-ID: <5c6cff$8ni@camel5.mindspring.com> > NNTP-Posting-Host: user-168-121-16-58.dialup.mindspring.com > X-Newsreader: knews 0.9.8 > > [ Remove "*" from e-mail address before replying! Spam bait. *sigh* ] > > What are the occasional pauses where PINE puts a couple of asterisks > in the upper left hand corner and the disk gets very busy? > > Is there some way to eliminate them or at least make them less frequent, > and if so what is the trade-off? > > On my Alpha machine with 96M RAM, they aren't too bad... on my 486 at > home with 32M RAM and 1000 mail messages in my inbox (*grin*) they're > pretty obnoxious. > > Thanks! > > -- > Jay Vassos-Libove > Senior Software Engineer +1 (770) 552-0543 (home) > Computer Generation, Inc. +1 (404) 705-2867 (work) > libove*@*compgen.com postmaster*@*compgen.com webmaster*@*compgen.com > [ Remove "*" from e-mail address before replying! Spam bait. *sigh* ] > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:08:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA22085 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA08664 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:02:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA08657 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:01:58 -0800 Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 08:01:20 +0800 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 08:01:19 +0800 (GMT) From: Edward M Greshko To: Kenn Goutal cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for X-windows? In-Reply-To: <32E7CEA0.34F1@ci.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, Kenn Goutal wrote: > I use Pine on a UNIX box (via terminal emulator and dial-up) at home, > and I LOVE it. (My kids do, too.) > > At work, use CDE (Common Desktop Environment) on X-Windows on Sun/Solaris. > Is there a version of Pine that does all the things Pine does so well, > and uses all the same file formats, but uses the X-windows interface > to allow point'n'click operation using a mouse? *ALL* the things pine does so well?? No, but you can try the new beta client from SUN call "roam". I believe you can find it from their main web server: http://www.sun.com Not a bad package....but not yet up to pine standards. Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:10:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA22114 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:10:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA08739 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:04:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cc04du.unity.ncsu.edu (cc04du.unity.ncsu.edu [152.1.1.175]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA08732 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:04:05 -0800 Received: from localhost (sdbuddem@localhost) by cc04du.unity.ncsu.edu (8.8.4/UC02Jan97) with SMTP id TAA07779 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:04:01 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: cc04du.unity.ncsu.edu: sdbuddem owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:04:01 -0500 (EST) From: Sharon Diane Buddemeier To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: receipt Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Does anyone out there know if it is possible to check and see if messages have been received? If there is such a function, I would be thankful if you could pass it along. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:59:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA23708 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:59:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA08016 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:54:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA08009 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:54:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnZss-00038YC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 16:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: idouglas@qnx.com (Ian Douglas) Subject: Re: How can I read newsgroups with pine? Date: 23 Jan 1997 16:25:50 -0500 Message-ID: <5c8l0u$6di@qnx.com> References: In article , Eric Tse wrote: >On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Maitham Shams wrote: > > When you'in in the main menu, press S for Setup, C for Config, then look >for the field "nntp-server". Put the address of your news server in it. >That's all! Hope it helps. I have this set, but how do you actually access the newsgroups from your .newsrc file? Ian W. Douglas (idouglas@qnx.com) --- All opinions are my own, and do not reflect the views or beliefs of QNX Software Systems, Ltd., it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:00:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA23805 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:00:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA08008 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:54:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA08003 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:54:45 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnZog-00038XC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 16:48 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Who wants the pinecrsh.txt? Date: Sat, 18 Jan 1997 20:19:18 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII PCPine (both DOS and Win3 versions) crashed a few times on me. To whom should I mail the pinecrsh.txt file? The Windows version said that I should report it... \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:12:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA24125 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:12:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA08487 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:04:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA08474 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:04:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vna1r-00038BC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 17:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Pine vs. IMAP mail storage Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:27:19 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5c89v2$p3r@epcot.pomona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE In-Reply-To: <5c89v2$p3r@epcot.pomona.edu> Which IMAP server are you using? The IMAP protocol does not have any relationship to the format of the message store. The UW IMAP server supports all of the folder formats that either Unix or PC Pine do. Other IMAP servers (e.g. Cyrus) have their own proprietary formats. --DLM --=20 |\ | |\/| David L. Miller FAX: (206)685-4045 | Common sense is the |/ |_ | | dlm@cac.washington.edu (206)685-6240 | collection of prejudice= s Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | acquired by age 18. -- = A. Box 354841, University of Washington | Einstein 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | On 23 Jan 1997, Jim Kieley wrote: > From: Jim Kieley <^=DF^=DF^=DF^=DF^C^=DF=FA=C8^F^A^H^H^F^A6=B7jim@acb2.cg= s.edu> > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Pine vs. IMAP mail storage > Date: 23 Jan 1997 18:17:06 GMT > Organization: Office of Information Technologies, Pomona College > Message-ID: <5c89v2$p3r@epcot.pomona.edu> > NNTP-Posting-Host: acb2.cgs.edu > X-Newsreader: Alexandra.app (Version 0.82) >=20 > We have a number of users who have default Pine mail archives that were= =20 > originally created either with PC Pine or UNIX Pine. These users need to= =20 > convert these file-style archives to a conventional IMAP format. More=20 > specifically, although there are difference between the way PC and UNIX P= ine=20 > name and perhaps store mail by default, they both use flat files. So,=20 > several messages that make up a given folder are contained in a single fi= le. =20 > Other IMAP clients by default create folders that are similar to the INBO= X. =20 > That is, they create a directory on the server within which is a file for= =20 > each individual message. These folders are structured like the INBOX. = =20 >=20 > What we'd like to do is be able to convert Pine-style folder files contai= ning=20 > multiple messages to directories within which each message is a separate= =20 > file. This will make all mail accessible from various IMAP clients we ar= e=20 > using including appropiately configured Pine clients.=20 >=20 > mbxcvt and mbxcopy do not seem to be the ticket. Any suggestions? >=20 > Jim Kieley=20 > The Claremont Graduate School > jim@cgs.edu >=20 >=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:40:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA24628 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:40:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA10573 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:37:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from VMS.ucc.okstate.edu (vms.ucc.okstate.edu [139.78.100.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA10569 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:37:08 -0800 Received: from vms.ucc.okstate.edu by vms.ucc.okstate.edu (PMDF V5.0-3 #18011) id <01IEKB9932YO8WZI9O@vms.ucc.okstate.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:35:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:35:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Paul J. Thompson" Subject: error...how to fix??? X-Sender: thomppj@vms.ucc.okstate.edu To: Pine Info Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT i am trying to get pc-pine to run on my computer. (right now i am emailing from a telnet site with VMS-pine on it)...anyways, i am having two problems i was hoping you might be able to help me with: 1. Whenever i try to send an email, pine tries to send it away and then comes back with the error [Mail not sent: non local recipient rejected]...why is it giving me this error and how do i fix it? 2. The second problem is a little more aggravating (because I don't now if their is a solution under dos)... the program has been shutting down randomly on me with some type of memory error. (out of memory or something of the sort...) anyways, i was hoping you might have some kinda suggestion here... thanks much, paul j. thompson Oklahoma State University Student From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:51:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA24884 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:51:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA10822 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:47:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from VMS.ucc.okstate.edu (vms.ucc.okstate.edu [139.78.100.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA10818 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:47:49 -0800 Received: from vms.ucc.okstate.edu by vms.ucc.okstate.edu (PMDF V5.0-3 #18011) id <01IEKBIZC4I88WZZ1C@vms.ucc.okstate.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:43:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:43:38 -0600 (CST) From: "Paul J. Thompson" Subject: second error note... X-Sender: thomppj@vms.ucc.okstate.edu To: Pine Info Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT that second error i am getting from pc-pine is... Problem detected: "Out of free storage". Pine exiting. just thought it might help to know the specific error. thanks, paul j. thompson Oklahoma State University Student From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:02:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA25105 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:02:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA10973 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:58:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from trojan.troyst.edu (trojan.troyst.edu [129.66.48.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA10969 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 17:58:52 -0800 Received: from localhost by trojan.troyst.edu (AIX 4.1/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA26960; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:55:40 -0600 Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 19:55:39 -0600 (CST) From: Jason King To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: how do you send a file Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was wondering how you send a file through the e-mail system. Please help me out. Thank you. Jason A. King, B.S. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:42:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA25568 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:42:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA10609 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:38:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA10605 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 18:38:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnbTY-00038BC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 18:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edmund Lau Subject: Re: upload-command Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 15:52:15 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 23 Jan 1997, Gabriel Egan wrote: > I've set the 'upload-command' (MainMenu/Setup/Config) to > > kermit -r -a _FILE_ > > to enable shelling out from the Composer to Unix to upload a > file via Kermit which pine can then suck into the message > being composed. (Pine picks a temporary name which it puts > in place of the token _FILE_). > > BUT having got the file into my home directory, pine goes > looking for it in /usr/tmp rather than in my home directory. > How can I make pine look in the right place? > Sure, instead of having this line kermit -r -a _FILE_ add an extra ~/ The final product will look like: kermit -r -a ~/_FILE_ ---------------------------------------- __ || [|-dmund L_]au `- () _ []nformation & ((omputer ((cience '' _ () |U|niversity of ((alifornia, []rvine `-' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:39:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA27676 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA14332 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:35:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA14328 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:35:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vneCx-00038BC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 21:29 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: How to Send mail to all users on 1 server? Date: 23 Jan 1997 22:16:44 GMT Message-ID: References: <5c8a3i$33fu@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> DAZQ68A@prodigy.com (Infonautics Corporation): > how to send an e-mail message to all users using Pine and UNIX? > Please let me know what you think.... "It's a secret!" [*] Sven -- [*] http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~leitner/CnH/secret.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:41:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA27700 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA13206 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:35:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA13202 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 21:35:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vneDK-00038UC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 21:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: yuan@nka1.med.uc.edu (Jie Yuan) Subject: Re: Pine vs. IMAP mail storage Date: 23 Jan 1997 22:16:51 GMT Message-ID: <5c8o0j$dj7$1@news.ececs.uc.edu> References: <5c89v2$p3r@epcot.pomona.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit [Posted and mailed] I wonder if you can take a different approach. I have seen IMAP clients that can access the "folders" that Pine created on the Unix host, and use them as such. For example, Mail Drop and Simeon (on Mac), ML (on Unix) can all do this. Simeon is cross platform client (PC/Unix/Mac). Check IMAP home for more clients. Jie ------------------------------------------------------------------ In article <5c89v2$p3r@epcot.pomona.edu>, úÈ 6·jim@acb2.cgs.edu (Jim Kieley) writes: > We have a number of users who have default Pine mail archives that were > originally created either with PC Pine or UNIX Pine. These users need to > convert these file-style archives to a conventional IMAP format. More > specifically, although there are difference between the way PC and UNIX Pine > name and perhaps store mail by default, they both use flat files. So, > several messages that make up a given folder are contained in a single file. > Other IMAP clients by default create folders that are similar to the INBOX. > That is, they create a directory on the server within which is a file for > each individual message. These folders are structured like the INBOX. > > What we'd like to do is be able to convert Pine-style folder files containing > multiple messages to directories within which each message is a separate > file. This will make all mail accessible from various IMAP clients we are > using including appropiately configured Pine clients. > > mbxcvt and mbxcopy do not seem to be the ticket. Any suggestions? > > Jim Kieley > The Claremont Graduate School > jim@cgs.edu -- -- Jie Yuan, PhD - U. of Cincinnati - Dept. of Pharmacology & C.B. -- == POBox 670575, Cin., OH 45267-0575 = 513-558-2352 = x-1169 (fax) == == www.uc.edu/~yuanj = Jie.Yuan@UC.edu = using Knews (Irix5.3) == == PGP key: finger -l yuanj@ucunix.san.uc.edu == From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 22:13:16 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA27968 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 22:13:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA14842 for pine-info-out; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 22:09:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA14834 for ; Thu, 23 Jan 1997 22:08:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnelD-00038BC; Thu, 23 Jan 97 22:05 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: libove*@*felines.org (Jay Vassos-Libove) Subject: Re: occasional pauses (asterisks at upper left) Date: 23 Jan 1997 20:50:36 GMT Message-ID: <5c8ius$amf@library.airnews.net> References: <5c6cff$8ni@camel5.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Indeed, it is the checkpoint that causes the (unacceptably) long delays -- mail checks take a fraction of a second. The answer (thanks, David Miller!) is to NOT store the "inbox" in its default (UNIX) place of /var/mail/$USERNAME, where (for people like myself who leave way too much mail there) it grows to a size where checkpoint operations take tens of seconds... but instead to either: 1. pre-process it in to folders formatted other than "all messages in one file" such as with procmail 2. use the "inbox-path=#MHINBOX" magic cookie in the .pinerc file, which makes PINE perform the equivalent of a Mail Handler "inc"orporate operation on new mail as soon as PINE finds the new mail in /var/mail/$USERNAME Either case results in the inbox _not_ being a monolithic file which requires lots of time to checkpoint, so the checkpoints go much faster. Again, many thanks to David Miller for pointing this out to me! So, why isn't that #MHINBOX magic cookie documented anywhere in the source distribution? :) -Jay In article , David L Miller writes: > > On 23 Jan 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > >> The asterisks that occasionally appear in the top left corner of Pine's >> screen are it telling you that it is either checking for new mail or >> checkpointing your mailbox to disk. >> ... >> If the delays are causing you problems you can reduce their frequency by >> increasing the interval with which Pine checks for new mail arriving (or >> even turn this check off altogether). This is controlled by the >> mail-check-interval option. Its help says: >> >> This options specifies, in seconds, how often Pine will check for >> new mail. If set to zero, new-mail checking is disabled. There >> is a minimum value, normally 15 seconds. > > Note that this does not affect checkpointing, which typically involves > a longer delay than the new mail check. -- Jay Vassos-Libove Senior Software Engineer +1 (770) 552-0543 (home) Computer Generation, Inc. +1 (404) 705-2867 (work) libove*@*compgen.com postmaster*@*compgen.com webmaster*@*compgen.com [ Remove "*" from e-mail address before replying! Spam bait. *sigh* ] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 04:08:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA30502 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 04:08:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA19230 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 04:00:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail-gw.t-mi.com (mail-gw.t-mi.com [162.11.243.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA19220 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 04:00:03 -0800 Received: from t-mi.com (162.11.100.51) by mail-gw.t-mi.com (Integralis SMTPRS 1.4) with SMTP id ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:46:39 +0000 Received: from sparc14 by t-mi.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA14550; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:59:42 GMT Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:59:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Clifford Wesley Fulford X-Sender: clifford@sparc14 Reply-To: Clifford Wesley Fulford To: Edward M Greshko Cc: Kenn Goutal , pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Pine for X-windows? In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Read-Receipt-To: clifford@t-mi.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Not quite fair Ed. If Kenn sets enable-mouse-in-xterm and starts pine in an xterm (which can be put into a menu option within the window manager menus) then he can use the mouse to point and click. It doesn't look like what most people thing of as a windows interface but it does work (and the command set is still available). I find it easier an quicker to use the command set most of the time but sometimes cutting and pasting with the mouse, particularly between the message I'm reading and the one I'm writing, is really useful. I've tried Suns offering. I'm not one life's natural wimp'ers and after a couple of days of irritability went back to Pine, I did however find it the most uncluttered example of the genre that I've seen. I wonder how many of us are using Pine for ourselves, and perhaps the Washington IMAP server, but supporting all sorts of horrible MUAs for users who must have buttons to press? Clifford Wesley Fulford _________________________________________________________________________ CBF-International | clifford@t-mi.com | 044 (0)468-003-889 17 Sewdley Street | clifford@cix.compulink.co.uk | 044 (0)181-986-5239 Lea Bridge, E5-0AX. | | 044 (0)171-577-2741 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote: > On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, Kenn Goutal wrote: > > > I use Pine on a UNIX box (via terminal emulator and dial-up) at home, > > and I LOVE it. (My kids do, too.) > > > > At work, use CDE (Common Desktop Environment) on X-Windows on Sun/Solaris. > > Is there a version of Pine that does all the things Pine does so well, > > and uses all the same file formats, but uses the X-windows interface > > to allow point'n'click operation using a mouse? > > *ALL* the things pine does so well?? > > No, but you can try the new beta client from SUN call "roam". > I believe you can find it from their main web server: > > http://www.sun.com > > Not a bad package....but not yet up to pine standards. > > Ed > > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 05:46:40 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA31157 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 05:46:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA20463 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 05:34:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from latcs1.cs.latrobe.edu.au (latcs1.cs.latrobe.EDU.AU [131.172.42.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA20453 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 05:34:21 -0800 Received: by latcs1.cs.latrobe.edu.au (8.8.4/1.34) id AAA13509; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:34:16 +1100 (AEDT) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 00:34:16 +1100 (AEDT) From: tsang@latcs1.cs.latrobe.edu.au (Tony Tsang) Message-Id: <199701241334.AAA13509@latcs1.cs.latrobe.edu.au> To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: reply mime Hi, I have a MIME formate mail, I would like to reply it using MIME in pine. What command I need use? My pine-tool only can view but can't reply it. Would you be kind to give the instruction to reply MIME formate mail. 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0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 06:26:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA31461 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 06:26:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA19725 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 06:16:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from calvin.twntpe.cdc.com (ip129179-17-10.dblrev-129-179.cdc.com [129.179.17.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA19721 for < pine-info@cac.washington.edu>; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 06:16:05 -0800 Received: from edspc17.twntpe.cdc.com by calvin.twntpe.cdc.com; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 22:15:25 +0800 From: Ed Greshko X-Priority: Normal Content-Type: text/plain To: clifford@t-mi.com Subject: Re: Pine for X-windows? Cc: kenn@ci.com, pine-info@cac.washington.edu X-Mailer: Pronto97 E-Mail [ver 4.0c Beta (0201)] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <32e8c3fd70a6002@calvin.twntpe.cdc.com> Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 22:15:27 +0800 In your message you said: > Not quite fair Ed. I quite agree with you. > If Kenn sets > enable-mouse-in-xterm > and starts pine in an xterm (which can be put into a menu option within > the window manager menus) then he can use the mouse to point and click. It > doesn't look like what most people thing of as a windows interface but it > does work (and the command set is still available). True. I did have it set, for a while, but I turned it off again. I found the need to hold down the shift key to do copy/paste within an xwindow to be painful and confusing. > I find it easier an quicker to use the command set most of the time but > sometimes cutting and pasting with the mouse, particularly between the > message I'm reading and the one I'm writing, is really useful. > > I've tried Suns offering. I'm not one life's natural wimp'ers and > after a couple of days of irritability went back to Pine, I did however > find it the most uncluttered example of the genre that I've seen. It is a beta....but the best beta I've seen for a workstation. > I wonder how many of us are using Pine for ourselves, and perhaps the > Washington IMAP server, but supporting all sorts of horrible MUAs for > users who must have buttons to press? Too many of us. :-( BTW, there is an up and coming IMAP client from CommTouch called Pronto97. Quite nice. I doesn't have everything pine does...and the editor has a way to go but it is an IMAP4 client and does support true disconnected mode! Its great on those trips to India when you have to dial back in at $US1.50/minute! Ed -- Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce Control Data Asia/Pacific Region Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:08:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA27597 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA20277 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 06:54:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA20273 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 06:54:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnn11-00038TC; Fri, 24 Jan 97 06:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul Hafford Subject: Off Line Reader Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 20:08:26 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, I am using a dos based system and have just acquainted myself with pine. Could someone please tell me what are available for packet programs that will download my news group messages without erasing my incomming mail? Also, what is available for off line pine-mail readers and where can they be found? Thanks, "It's not easy being green." kermit the frog From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:34:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA32304 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA20560 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:10:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA20550 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:10:42 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Fri, 24 Jan 97 16:10:29 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id DAA10045; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 03:36:07 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 03:36:07 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Jason King cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how do you send a file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, Jason King wrote: >I was wondering how you send a file through the e-mail system. Please >help me out. Thank you. It's pretty easy... First you take a look at the help that comes with pine, then you type ^t in the message header where it says "Attchmnt". That'll get you to your files. Pick the one you want to send and that's it. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:41:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA32442 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:41:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA22149 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:34:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA22145 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:34:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnndw-00038BC; Fri, 24 Jan 97 07:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: idouglas@qnx.com (Ian Douglas) Subject: Newbie Question: setting up pine to read newsgroups Date: 24 Jan 1997 10:17:50 -0500 Message-ID: <5cajqu$52o@qnx.com> I'm sure this question has been asked a million times, so feel free to reply to this via Email so we don't clutter the newsgroup: I use QNX (POSIX-compliant, real-time OS), and we have a port of pine to use here at work (I work for QNX), and I'm trying to configure my pine setup for reading newsgroups. I read a post in this group about setting up nntp-server, which I did, but I still can't read any mail. I have tried a few different settings for the news-collection: field, but nothing seems to work. Can anyone offer suggestions on setting up this field, and what other flags/settings I should configure for this? Thanks in advance, Ian W. Douglas (idouglas@qnx.com) --- All opinions are my own, and do not reflect the views or beliefs of QNX Software Systems, Ltd., it's subsidiaries, or affiliates. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:48:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA32680 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:48:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA20872 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:34:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from happy.com (happy.com [38.241.225.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA20868 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 07:34:12 -0800 Received: by gateway.happy.com id <18433>; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:25:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:31:10 -0500 From: SandraB Reply-To: SandraB To: Edward M Greshko Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: "Sending error 554" In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Message-Id: <97Jan24.102521est.18433@gateway.happy.com> Ed, I thought you and the pine group might be interested in the results of your suggestion. FYI, we are using version 3.93 (under AIX) and I had "researched" ;-) the option you speak of. After your reply, I enabled this option. I purposely put a typo in user's name, in a global addressbook's distribution list. I then tried to send e-mail, using the Lcc: option. I still got the same *generic* error. HOWEVER, if I picked the regular To: option, then I got the verbose message about exactly which user was unknown. I suppose this has to do with the way Lcc: handles packaging the users names for sending? Thanks for your reply Ed. It proved an interesting experiment. ************************************************************************ Sandra Brust sandrab@happy.com Happy Harry's, Inc. (302) 366-0335 ext. 224 People often find it easier to be result of the past than a cause of the future. On Tue, 21 Jan 1997, Edward M Greshko wrote: > > Running pine3.95? Yes, I believe you are... Did you go to > setup/config from the main menu? Did you search for the word "verbose"? > Maybe not, huh? Otherwise you may have found: > > [ ] enable-verbose-smtp-posting > > FEATURE: enable-verbose-smtp-posting > > This feature controls an aspect of Pine's message sending. When enabled, > Pine will send a VERB (i.e., VERBose) command early in the posting process > intended to cause the server SMTP to provide a more detailed account of > the transaction. This feature is typically only useful to system > administrators and other support personel as an aid in troublshooting > problems. > > Note, this feature relies on a specific capability of the system's mail > transport agent or configured "smtp-server". It is possible that this > feature will cause problems for some tranport agents, and may result in > sending failure. In addition, as the verbose output comes from the mail > transport agent, it is likely to vary from one system to another. > > No source code necessary, void where prohibited.... :-) :-) > -- > Edward M. Greshko Technical Manager, Electronic Commerce > Control Data Asia/Pacific Region > Voice: +886-2-715-2222 x287 6/F, 131 Nanking East Road, Section 3 > FAX : +886-2-712-9197 Taipei, Taiwan R.O.C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:45:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA04146 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:45:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA25173 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:35:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA25163 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:35:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnqSP-00038UC; Fri, 24 Jan 97 10:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "J. Kelly Cunningham" Subject: display-filter bug? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:16:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- When I read a pgp signed message, my display-filter processes the message and displays the text sans signature. If I reply at this point, the UNprocessed text hits the filter again. Is that a bug, or am I doing something wrong? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: next Comment: Processed by mkpgp2.b, a Pine/PGP interface. iQCVAwUBMuiZ8OBu0383Om6dAQEl+QP/TBdZkC73EL6OEbBhOZ5mNYUtAl4ygi++ 17WQmXnfqKuSj/TrzdfNDsB8JAyXma1iYjMK+/rqYJSjrV9Xnkc39e63fKGUgKL4 2TcRTVEYC7/WmQ0OfMl7m3z3naVRklp2F34PRbM63PlTjUptFqzHwdOJ/j1UfFUn EwMjUqdD0O8= =Ex3j -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- kc Furbling, v.: Having to wander through a maze of ropes at an airport or bank even when you are the only person in line. -- Rich Hall, "Sniglets" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:25:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA06493 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:25:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA27427 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:20:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA27417 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:20:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnr7U-00038TC; Fri, 24 Jan 97 11:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: The One and Only ANDREW SHI Subject: address Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 10:57:38 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is it possible to change your address in pine? THIS MESSAGE IS WRITTEN ON A RECYCLED PAPER From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:30:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA06629 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:30:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA27604 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:25:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.wesleyan.edu (mail.wesleyan.edu [129.133.1.51]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA27598 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 11:25:45 -0800 Received: from localhost (rejercito@localhost) by mail.wesleyan.edu (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id OAA12378 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:25:42 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:25:41 -0500 (EST) From: "Romylee A. Ejercito" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Listserve with Pine Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern: Is it possible to create a listserve in Pine that will automatically send messages to a mailing list? And would I have to log in before the messages are sent, or do they get sent out as they arrive? Thanks. Mylee Ejercito rejercito@wesleyan.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:06:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA26868 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:06:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA27126 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:00:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA27116 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:00:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnrj1-00038BC; Fri, 24 Jan 97 11:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: pine and DSN Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 12:07:23 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5bllpo$d6p@piston.ecp.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5bllpo$d6p@piston.ecp.fr> The current Pine 3.95q release does not. Pine 4.00 will. On 16 Jan 1997, Eric Doutreleau wrote: > From: Eric Doutreleau > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: pine and DSN > Date: 16 Jan 1997 16:42:32 GMT > Organization: Ecole Centrale de Paris > Distribution: inet > Message-ID: <5bllpo$d6p@piston.ecp.fr> > NNTP-Posting-Host: aurora.cti.ecp.fr > X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950824BETA PL0] > > Does pine support DSN? > > Thanks in advance for nay answer > > -- > Eric Doutreleau > Ingenieur systeme a l Ecole Centrale de Paris > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > BSD uber alles. > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:06:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA03705 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:06:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA28333 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:00:47 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA28329 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 12:00:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnrjK-00038XC; Fri, 24 Jan 97 11:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David Arnold Subject: pico and ^S/^Q Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 19:42:06 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII how do i tell pico to ignore the start and stop characters? pine has a config file .pinerc but pico has no such animal. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:26:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA12604 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:26:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA02149 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:21:08 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA02143 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 15:21:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnurM-00038TC; Fri, 24 Jan 97 15:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nygeerts@sspl02.seri.philips.nl (Arjan Geertsema) Subject: Pine 3.95 T problem Date: 24 Jan 1997 16:01:40 GMT Message-ID: <5camd4$2dq@ns1.nl.cis.philips.com> When edditing a mail it is possible to go to your address-book whith T ...... this command is unfortunately also the command in a VT100 terminal to start a new terminal ..... Is it possible to change this bindkey to something else ? Arjan -- ***************************************************************** * ing Arjan H. Geertsma \|/ Building: FB3.091 * * Philips C&M Nijmegen (o o) phone : (+31-24-353)3083 * * Design Technology _oO0_( )_0Oo_ seri: nygeerts@nyhp04 * * mailto:a.geertsma@nym.sc.philips.com * ***************************************************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:04:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA14841 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:04:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA04419 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:59:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cti02.citenet.net (cti02.citenet.net [198.53.26.132]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA04415 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 16:59:08 -0800 Received: from ctmx0576.citenet.net (g61-138.citenet.net) by cti02.citenet.net (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA27314; Fri, 24 Jan 97 19:59:03 EST Message-Id: <9701250059.AA27314@cti02.citenet.net> From: "Judith Choquette" To: Subject: binhex 4.0 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 19:56:31 -0500 X-Msmail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello my name is michel i am from quebec,canada. an one of my fried send to me on my e-mail some jokes but when i receive it a saw saw on my screen need convertion binhex 4.0. so i am a new surfer(neophyte) an i dont know what to do thank michel From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:16:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA14990 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:16:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA05555 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:11:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA05551 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 17:11:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnwai-00038BC; Fri, 24 Jan 97 17:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: receipt Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 22:41:12 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On 23 Jan 1997, Sharon Diane Buddemeier wrote: > Does anyone out there know if it is possible to check and see if messages > have been received? If there is such a function, I would be thankful if > you could pass it along. Thanks. There's no universal method, but some e-mail servers acknowledge the "Return-Receipt-To:" header. Just put your e-mail address into that header field and you'll probably receive receipts for your outgoing e-mails. Hope this helps. ----- Eric Tse jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~jyetse/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 20:11:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA16564 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 20:11:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA07262 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 20:06:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA07258 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 20:06:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vnzLR-00038BC; Fri, 24 Jan 97 20:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: DAZQ68A@prodigy.com (Infonautics Corporation) Subject: How to Send mail to all users on 1 server? Date: 23 Jan 1997 18:19:30 GMT Message-ID: <5c8a3i$33fu@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com> Hi......I was wondering how to send an e-mail message to all users using Pine and UNIX..... Please let me know what you think.... You could e-mail me at scermina@exodus.jwu.edu - Sal Cerminara scermina@exodus.jwu.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 22:27:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA17907 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 22:27:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA09635 for pine-info-out; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 22:17:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA09631 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 1997 22:17:02 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vo1Q8-00038BC; Fri, 24 Jan 97 22:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: Off Line Reader Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:23:02 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, Paul Hafford wrote: > I am using a dos based system and have just acquainted myself with > pine. Could someone please tell me what are available for packet programs > that will download my news group messages without erasing my incomming > mail? Also, what is available for off line pine-mail readers and where > can they be found? One of the excellent off-line e-mail and news readers is Yarn. It has a DOS version and it uses the SOUP packet format. You only need a shell account (since you're using Pine, I suspect you have one such account) on which to run "uqwk", which packs e-mails and news in the SOUP format. For more information about Yarn, consult the news group : alt.usenet.offline-reader or just search for it on the WWW. Hope this helps. Eric Tse jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~jyetse/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:40:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA19562 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:40:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA12467 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:37:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA12463 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:37:50 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vo5Sf-00038XC; Sat, 25 Jan 97 02:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: grr@bora.dacom.co.kr (Green Matheson) Subject: Can I import elm aliases in Pine address list? Date: 24 Jan 1997 08:06:05 GMT Message-ID: <5c9qhd$np6$1@usenet.dacom.co.kr> I have a list of Elm aliases that I want to import into a Pine address list to use the multiple address function. Is there a way of doing this without rewriting out all the addresses again? That is what compatibility between elm and Pine aliases exists? ::::::::Greg Matheson Korea Times grr@bora.dacom.co.kr:::::: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:40:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA19572 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:40:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA11789 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:37:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA11785 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:37:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vo5S6-00038UC; Sat, 25 Jan 97 02:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: nightowl@deepsouth.co.nz (Richard Stevenson) Subject: Re: POP3: Keep messages on server Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 03:03:28 GMT Message-ID: <32e8245a.937404@news.otago.ac.nz> References: <32E016C1.6AF2@whowhere.com> On Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:18:09 -0800, Rupesh Kapoor wrote: > I am writing a pop client. Does anyone have suggestions on how to fetch > only the new messages if the user doesn't want the client to delete them > on server? I could do it using UIDL, but many servers don't support it. > > The netscape mail client seems to do a "TOP 0" ..., but even > TOP is non-portable. TOP and UIDL are your only choices. Try UIDL first, since it's faster, then TOP. If the server supports neither, it's decrepit anyway and ought to be upgraded... some pressure on ISPs from users should fix that quickly enough ;-) Cheers Richard -- Richard Stevenson nightowl@deepsouth.co.nz From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:40:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA19571 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:40:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA11795 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:37:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA11791 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 02:37:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vo5Sw-00038YC; Sat, 25 Jan 97 02:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: a100700@mailserv.cuhk.edu.hk (Jim Law) Subject: Remote Printing with SimpTerm 0.9.4 for win32 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 97 09:08:54 GMT Message-ID: <5c9ukv$c8r@hpg30a.csc.cuhk.edu.hk> I working with pine 3.93 with SimpTerm 0.9.4 for Win32 under Win 95 environment. I can print to remote printer with it. But I can do so with Ewan 1.052. Sure, pine claim it only test with NCSA telnet. Do you have a list for what telnet and pine work fine with remote printing. Can it be solved. Jim Law Computer Services Centre The Chinese University of HK jim-law@cuhk.edu.hk From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 03:09:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA19737 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 03:09:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA12773 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 03:07:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA12769 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 03:07:52 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vo5uW-00038BC; Sat, 25 Jan 97 03:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: larsen@imada.ou.dk (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Larsen?=) Subject: MIME type Application/Directory MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Message-ID: <1997Jan23.090805.11947@imada.ou.dk> Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 09:08:05 GMT It is possible to forward an entry from Pine's address book via email, in which case it gets attached as an item of MIME type Application/Directory. Is this type documented in an RFC? Thanks in advance. -- Søren Larsen Email: larsen@imada.ou.dk Dept. of Math. & Comp. Sci. URL: http://www.imada.ou.dk/~larsen/ Odense University, Campusvej 55 phone: +45 6557 2312 DK-5230 Odense M, Denmark fax: +45 6593 2691 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 05:00:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA20416 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 05:00:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA13524 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 04:58:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA13519 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 04:58:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vo7df-00038UC; Sat, 25 Jan 97 04:55 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: display-filter bug? Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 14:47:27 -0800 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, J. Kelly Cunningham wrote: > When I read a pgp signed message, my display-filter processes the message > and displays the text sans signature. If I reply at this point, the > UNprocessed text hits the filter again. > > Is that a bug, or am I doing something wrong? > Unfortunately, Pine does not currently cache the results of a display-filter, so it re-executes it every time it needs a copy :-( -- |\ | David L. Miller | The opposite of a correct |/ |_ Pine Development Team | statement is a false |\/| Box 354841, University of Washington | statement. The opposite of a | | 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | profound truth may well be Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | another profound truth. -- | Niels Bohr From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 06:08:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA20843 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 06:08:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA14808 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 06:06:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from muscat.geoquest.slb.com (omjs04.muscat.geoquest.slb.com [163.183.5.29]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA14804 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 06:05:53 -0800 Received: from omjs09 (omjs09.muscat.geoquest.slb.com) by muscat.geoquest.slb.com (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA05415; Sat, 25 Jan 97 18:14:32+040 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:10:50 -0400 (GMT) From: "Samir Arora,Schlumberger GeoQuest,Muscat-Oman" X-Sender: samir@omjs09 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: samir@muscat.geoquest.slb.com Subject: Mail send to other users has got To: in its Header Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi, whenever i send mail to anybody thru pine. It has got To: field in it;s header. like this mail message will also have To: in the message header. Any setting is there to change it .Or how do i overcome this problem I am using Pine 3.95 Regards samir From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 07:36:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA21362 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 07:36:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA15679 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 07:33:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA15675 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 07:33:26 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voA29-00038BC; Sat, 25 Jan 97 07:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jdashiel@eagle1.eaglenet.com (Jude T. DaShiell) Subject: address update needs improvement Message-ID: <32e9b9d9.0@eagle3.eaglenet.com> Date: 25 Jan 97 07:44:25 GMT While using the pine update address book feature tonight I managed to totally hose an address I was updating. This to anyone familiar with data entry protocols shouldn't have been surprising. pico doesn't solve all problems. The editing I was attempting was to add addresses onto the end of the address line. What I ended up saving would fail the fqdn test several times over in the address book. A form for adding addresses needs to be implemented such that if a user wants to add another address to an existing address pine prompts the user and properly formats the address book. This especially applies since pine allows only two addresses on the to: line before requiring bcc: entries. I use a speech synthesizer and have pine show me the cursor position on the screen but even using these features in the editing process the cursor got lost. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:16:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA21603 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:16:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA15509 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:11:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu (donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.63.19]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA15505 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:11:20 -0800 Received: by donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/3.0-mailhub) id LAA29842; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 11:11:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from root@gorf.rs.itd.umich.edu(141.211.63.89) by donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu via smap (2.0-umich) id xma029833; Sat, 25 Jan 97 11:11:04 -0500 Received: from localhost by gorf.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/3.0-client) Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 11:11:02 -0500 (EST) From: Elida Bautista X-Sender: elidab@gorf.rs.itd.umich.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: readonly Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII My e-mail will not allow me to delete, and all of my folders indicate that they are "read-only". I did not give it a command to lock the folders, so I was wondering how I can take off this "lock" from my folders. Thank you, Elida M. Bautista From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:34:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA21760 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:34:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA15686 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:28:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA15682 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:28:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voAw4-00038BC; Sat, 25 Jan 97 08:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: adp@ark.ship.edu (Azim Danesh) Subject: address book question? Message-ID: <5cbbau$a6e$1@jake.esu.edu> Date: 24 Jan 1997 21:58:54 GMT is there a way, when you send an email to a group in your address book, the addresses of all the people in your group does not show up in the TO: section? thanks adp@ark.ship.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:59:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA21869 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:59:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA15982 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:55:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (uxa.ecn.bgu.edu [143.43.32.11]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA15978 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 08:55:55 -0800 Received: from ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu (ukzoran@ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu [143.43.32.22]) by uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id KAA29392 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:55:57 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (ukzoran@localhost) by ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA27802 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:55:42 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu: ukzoran owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 10:55:42 -0600 (CST) From: Zoran Kathleen X-Sender: ukzoran@ecom2.ecn.bgu.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: printer problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have a Hewlett Packard 660C deskjet printer. I cannot print out anything directly. I have to save to the hard drive first. What is the problem? Can you help me? ************************** * * * Kathleen M. Zoran * * Apollo School * * Reading Coordinator * * DesPlaines, Il. * * * ************************** From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 09:51:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA22382 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 09:51:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA17286 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 09:46:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from edgemail.ha1.com (edgemail.ha1.com [194.196.99.195]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA17282 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 09:46:51 -0800 Received: from CONSOLE13.ns.uk.ibm.net ([194.196.99.213]) by edgemail.ha1.com (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with SMTP id AAA114 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 17:41:52 +0000 Message-ID: <32EA0DF7.6CC1@edgemail.ha1.com> Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 17:43:19 +0400 From: philip@edgemail.ha1.com (Philip Rayner) Organization: From The Edge , Harrow , England X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Attn: Ceaser the Geaser Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, my name is Phil and I listen to your show all the time, I was wondering if you could give me some information about Roy Orbison, as I really like his music. Would it be possible to a signed photo of your good self and one of Mike and the Naughty Boys. My address: Philip Rayner 71 Church Drive North Harrow Middlesex HA2 7NR Cheers Philip From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 12:07:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA23664 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 12:07:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA19235 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 12:04:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA19231 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 12:04:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voEHv-00038BC; Sat, 25 Jan 97 12:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Randall Watson Subject: Cruise mode? Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 14:00:44 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have scoured every FAQ, site, help screen, and WWW site I can find, but I still know nothing about cruise mode except how to turn it on. So, my question is, "What can cruise mode do for me?" Thanks. -- | Randall Watson - email at rwatson@coewl.cen.uiuc.edu | | or at rwatson@students.uiuc.edu | From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:13:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA24147 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:13:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA19370 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:09:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA19365 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:09:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voFKz-00038BC; Sat, 25 Jan 97 13:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Paul D. Cox" Subject: Re: password Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 05:24:52 -0600 Message-ID: References: <32DBD972.39EB@mail.idt.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32DBD972.39EB@mail.idt.net> > How can I get pine to "remember" my password when I log on. Right now, > everytime I log on to pine from unix, it picks up my user - id and asks > me to confirm it and then asks for my password. I've seen others, however > who just get automatically logged on when the enter pine. > If anyone out there can help, I would appreciate it. What's probably happening is that when you start Pine, it has to attach to the POP3 server for your mail... log you in inn other words. That's why it asks for your username and password. -Paul From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:50:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA24570 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:50:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA20519 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:45:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA20511 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:44:56 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 25 Jan 97 22:44:47 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA03408; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:39:05 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:39:05 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Randall Watson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Cruise mode? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, Randall Watson wrote: >I have scoured every FAQ, site, help screen, and WWW site I can find, but >I still know nothing about cruise mode except how to turn it on. > >So, my question is, "What can cruise mode do for me?" Unfortunately, it cannot force you to read the help inside pine >;-> FEATURE: enable-cruise-mode This feature affects Pine's behavior when you hit the "Space Bar" at the end of a displayed message. Typically, Pine complains that the end of the text has already been reached. Setting this feature causes such keystrokes to be interpreted as if the "Tab" key had been hit, thus taking you to the next "interesting" message, or scanning ahead to the next incoming folder with "interesting" messages. FEATURE: enable-cruise-mode-delete This feature modifies the behavior of Pine's "enable-cruise-mode" feature. Setting this feature causes pine to implicitly delete read messages when it moves on to display the next "Interesting" message. Enjoy! *grin* Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:50:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA24524 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:50:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA20509 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:44:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA20504 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:44:51 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 25 Jan 97 22:44:43 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA03220; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:22:38 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:22:37 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Elida Bautista cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: readonly In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, Elida Bautista wrote: >My e-mail will not allow me to delete, and all of my folders indicate that >they are "read-only". I did not give it a command to lock the folders, so >I was wondering how I can take off this "lock" from my folders. Thank you, >Elida M. Bautista Try chmod u+w or consult the appropriate man-page. If unsuccessful, talk to your sysadmin - those files _must_ be both rw + mode changeable by the owner (you). Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:51:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA26848 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:51:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA20514 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:44:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA20506 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:44:53 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 25 Jan 97 22:44:46 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA03372; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:35:26 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:35:26 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Zoran Kathleen cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: printer problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, Zoran Kathleen wrote: >I have a Hewlett Packard 660C deskjet printer. I cannot print out >anything directly. I have to save to the hard drive first. What is the >problem? Can you help me? You mean: In general? Sure... Talk to your sysadmin >;-> Actually, it'd be quite helpful if you could state your OS and the version of pine, though. If you're running u*ix, check your apsfilter or whatever printfilter you're running. In pine, check if the print command is set correctly. Maybe you're using the wrong printing command. There's an option for custom printers. Either way, the latest versions of lpr are known to be buggy. If you're using Dos95, get yourself LinuX... ;-) Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:51:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA24549 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:51:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA20526 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:45:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA20516 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 13:44:59 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Sat, 25 Jan 97 22:44:49 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id WAA03269; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:28:00 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 22:27:59 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Azim Danesh cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: address book question? In-Reply-To: <5cbbau$a6e$1@jake.esu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 24 Jan 1997, Azim Danesh wrote: >is there a way, when you send an email to a group in your address book, >the addresses of all the people in your group does not show up in >the TO: section? And on the eight day, God created the manual. If consulted, it'll speak to you and its word shall be: Bcc stands for blind carbon copy. Addresses listed in this field receive a copy of the message, but are not visible to any of its recipients, including even those who received the blind carbon copy. (If you enter addresses both in the To: and the Bcc: fields, this can cause confusion among the Bcc recipients, who may think they accidentally received a message intended for someone else -- the addresses they see in the To: field -- and then forward it to them, so use this feature with discretion.) As an afterthought, here's the Lcc command, too: New in Pine version 3.92 is the Lcc (List Carbon Copy) field, which combines the functions of the To: and Bcc: fields. It allows you to select a list of addresses from your addressbook and shows the name of the list -- but not the individual addresses in the list -- in the message's To: field, while delivering a copy of the message to each address on the list. Now, go to your Setup, Config and adjust your headers if you want that option to be default or use ^R to do it on the fly. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 14:07:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA24737 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 14:07:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA20760 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 14:04:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA20756 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 14:04:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voGB9-00038BC; Sat, 25 Jan 97 14:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: Remailing a message in Pine Date: 25 Jan 1997 20:57:06 GMT Message-ID: <5cds32$9qb@due.unit.no> References: In article , Mats Petersson wrote: >Anyone who knows if it is possible to remail a previously written message >in Pine? And I don't mean using Bounce, but merely resending it in its >original state. Save the message to your postponed-msgs folder and press compose. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 15:57:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA25996 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 15:57:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA22330 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 15:54:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA22326 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 15:54:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voHrH-00038BC; Sat, 25 Jan 97 15:50 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cyang@Glue.umd.edu (Chulho Yang) Subject: Pine runs on only one machine Date: 25 Jan 1997 17:58:49 GMT Message-ID: <5cdhkp$b84@hecate.umd.edu> Hi, I compiled pine3.95 on a unix machine say, "discovery". my home is on AFS, a network file system, and if I try to run pine on any other machine, say "mariner", error message is: who are you? ( can't get login name ) It's incovenient to have to login discovery everytime to check email. How can I fix my problem? -- YANG, Chulho cyang@eng.umd.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:35:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA27480 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:35:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA24363 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:32:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from scls1.suffolk.lib.ny.us (scls1.suffolk.lib.ny.us [199.173.91.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA24359 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:32:08 -0800 Received: from bookworm.suffolk.lib.ny.us (bookworm.suffolk.lib.ny.us [199.173.91.81]) by scls1.suffolk.lib.ny.us (8.6.12/8.6.6) with ESMTP id VAA02597 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:38:35 -0500 Received: from localhost by bookworm.suffolk.lib.ny.us (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA10468; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:19:18 -0500 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:19:18 -0500 (EST) From: Brandenstein X-Sender: lbranden@bookworm To: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Printing E-mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII When trying to print my E-mail, I get "Print message using "attached -to-ansi"? I type Y and then get the message "Printing to desktop printer" Nothing happens. I am a VERY new computer and internet user and would appreciate any help you can give me. My E-mail address is: lbranden@suffolk.lib.ny.us Thank you From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:38:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA27512 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA23819 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:35:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA23801 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 18:34:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voKQo-00038BC; Sat, 25 Jan 97 18:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: Listserve with Pine Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 19:47:05 -0500 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 24 Jan 1997, Romylee A. Ejercito wrote: > Is it possible to create a listserve in Pine that will > automatically send messages to a mailing list? And would I have to log in > before the messages are sent, or do they get sent out as they arrive? In brief, no -- Pine will not work as an automatic listserv. It wasn't really designed to. It certainly would not work if Pine was not running. You will probably need to use other software specifically designed for the purpose, such as Majodomo, Listserve, or Smartlist. Also, a word of warning. Make sure that the policies of your installation permit what you want to do. For instance, my service provider explicitly forbids running a mailing list from the type of account I have. (If I want to run a list, I have to buy a commercial account.) Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:38:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA28918 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:38:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA26506 for pine-info-out; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:35:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA26502 for ; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 21:35:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voNAf-00038BC; Sat, 25 Jan 97 21:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: Personalizing your FINGER listing. Message-ID: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 20:36:16 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: Mime-Version: 1.0 On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, The Turbaned Leprechaun wrote: > Does anybody know how to change the "In real life:" entry in the > following finger listing? [ snipped ] > A friend who's done it for himself says that he used a four-letter > command which begins with 'c'. Perhaps he meant "chfn". Just type this command at the UNIX prompt and you'll be asked for various "finger" information. Hope this helps. Eric Tse jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~jyetse/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 00:31:26 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA30424 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 00:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA28710 for pine-info-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 00:26:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from xmission.xmission.com (xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA28706 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 00:26:17 -0800 Received: from localhost (slick_rk@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.4/8.7.5) with SMTP id BAA27527 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 01:26:15 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 01:26:15 -0700 (MST) From: Rick To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: posting problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A friend of mine is having a curious problem. He has recently been upgraded to pine 3.95 in VMS and it seems to work fine, except when trying to post to a newsgroup. It will compose the msg and all just fine, but when we attempt to post it it gives the error message: "441 article is empty" Could anyone give us a clue as to what the problem is. Do we need to set some value somewhere or what?? Any help would be appreciated. Amiga/ / slick_rk@xmission.com 500 / / Rick Kelley \ \/ / 2736 Grant Ave. \/\/ Ogden, UT 84401 -------------------------------------------- Member of "Team AMIGA" -------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 00:48:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA30518 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 00:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA28318 for pine-info-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 00:45:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA28314 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 00:45:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voQ9E-00038BC; Sun, 26 Jan 97 00:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Re: Unix shell--How to? Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 13:57:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5c394l$d80@news.acns.nwu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5c394l$d80@news.acns.nwu.edu> On 21 Jan 1997, Arsenio Oloroso wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to start a Unix shell while in Pine? > > Thanks for any advice. ^Z, but you have to have enable-suspend enabled in the config (if you're using Pine 3.91 or better) --- Nathan D Richards Toronto, Ontario, Canada E-mail: nathanr@k2.ashpool.com WWW: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/ Resume: http://www.ashpool.com/~nathanr/resume.shtml AKA Sunspot on Paradise talker Member of the HTML Writers Guild From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 02:23:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA30737 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 02:23:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA00129 for pine-info-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 02:21:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA00120 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 02:21:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voRdL-00038BC; Sun, 26 Jan 97 02:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bart Thijs Subject: Re: multiple news-servers, multiple .newsrc Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 12:39:01 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 23 Jan 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > Pine 3.95 does not support multiple .newsrc files, I'm afraid. > > Cheers, > > -- > Mike Brudenell > > On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Bart Thijs wrote: > > So, is it possible to have more than one .newsrc-file: > > one for each server, i'm connected to > > > Is there another mail-news-reader that supports multilpe servers, multiple .newsrc-files. Bart Thijs pink@kotnet.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 02:48:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA31216 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 02:48:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA29695 for pine-info-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 02:46:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA29691 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 02:46:00 -0800 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.8.3/8.5) with SMTP id EAA23062; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 04:35:35 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 04:35:34 -0600 (CST) From: Robert J Wilshe To: Brandenstein cc: Pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Printing E-mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello: I have the same problem if I ust Microsoft Telnet, which is the emulator that was bundled with Windows 95. A great emulator for Telnet is EWAN v1.052, which can be found at http://www.lysator.liu.se/~zander/ewan.html It's generally free, and the website supports all the questions you might have about it. AND, it prints using ANSI control codes. For some reason Microsoft Telnet doesn't accept these when passed through. Give it a look; you'll like it! If you're using a Mac, there is another telnet client called NCSA TELNET, which can be found at http://www.ncsa.uiuc.edu/SDG/Software/MacTelnet/MacTelnet.Home.html It's also a free distribution! Hope this helps... \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ robert depaul university joseph chicago illinois wilshe u s a email rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// On Sat, 25 Jan 1997, Brandenstein wrote: > When trying to print my E-mail, I get "Print message using "attached >-to-ansi"? I type Y and then get the message "Printing to desktop printer" >Nothing happens. I am a VERY new computer and internet user and would >appreciate any help you can give me. My E-mail address is: >lbranden@suffolk.lib.ny.us Thank you > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 03:15:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA18758 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 03:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA29990 for pine-info-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 03:11:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA29986 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 03:11:06 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voSST-00038BC; Sun, 26 Jan 97 03:09 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: zvika@aeserv.technion.ac.il (Zvika Bar-Deroma) Subject: Re: Starting pine with attached file Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 07:38:56 GMT Message-ID: References: <32E7FA08.8F6@gnn.com> In article <32E7FA08.8F6@gnn.com>, Paul McCauley says: > >Hello: > >I am using Pine 3.95 on SCO UNIX. I am trying to start Pine with an >attached file. So far have not succeded. I can have the file in the >body by simply doing a read of the file when starting Pine: > (more stuff deleted) >Is there a way to accomplish starting Pine with a file attached? Sounds similar to the problem I'm having when trying to Forward a message with an attachement (I only get a 2 line header, one of them being the "Attachement" tag) - I use CTRL-R to get into detailed header mode, and then things work smoothely. Hope this helps, /Zvika > >Any help is appreciated. > >Please email responses to paul@exitt.com. > >Thank You. Zvika Bar-Deroma zvika@aeserv.technion.ac.il System & Network manager phone: (+972)-4-829-2706 Aerospace Engineering fax: (+972)-4-823-1848 Technion, Haifa 32000, Israel home: (+972)-4-823-5562 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 05:12:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA31912 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 05:12:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA02248 for pine-info-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 05:06:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id FAA02244 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 05:06:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voUFA-00038BC; Sun, 26 Jan 97 05:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: thornes@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca () Subject: More Pinting in PINE Date: 24 Jan 1997 19:47:06 GMT Message-ID: <5cb3jq$e3s$1@news.sas.ab.ca> First, I would like to thank all the people who have given me insight into the problems with printing email on your remote compter using the prYnt command, it has soleved alot of problems. One it did not solve, that was brought to my attention last night was HARDWARE problems. I received many excellent replies concerning the fact that some communications software do not read the pine escape sequence characters properly, could this as well happen with the physical modem as well? One of our members recently upgraded from an internal 2400 to an external 14,400, and now he cannot prYnt in pine. I informed him that it MIGHT be a modem problem and he is going to replce his new modem with his old modem to see if things work and get back to me. I was just curious if hardware could be a factor in pine not prynting emal on a remote PC. Thanks for all your help people. Anyone know of usegroups dealing with LYNX and/or TIN as well? Steve Thorne -- Ramblins courtesy of The Edge Magazine http://www.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca/~thornes WEATHER REPORT: The confused ramblings of people who made a career of guesswork and conjecture. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 08:15:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA31985 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 08:15:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA03823 for pine-info-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 08:11:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA03819 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 08:11:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voX79-00038BC; Sun, 26 Jan 97 08:07 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Re: unix: pipe to cat throws me in a viewer? Date: 25 Jan 1997 02:52:28 GMT Message-ID: <5cbshc$691@due.unit.no> References: <5bkma4$qdg@nexp.crl.com> <5c0vks$ibs@due.unit.no> <5c6kag$d6u@nexp.crl.com> In article <5c6kag$d6u@nexp.crl.com>, Tony Gonzalez wrote: > >This worked, but the text was all over the place, that is, the >lines didn't all begin on the first column....it seemed like all >the line feeds had been removed. A quick check with the stty program reveals that pine changes the terminal mode into one with 'ocrnl' unset - this means that line feed characters are not treated as newlines, but just as vertical motion. You need to replace cat by something which will translate line feed into carriage return + line feed - a Unix to DOS filter, essentially. The following perl command will work: perl -p -e 's/$/\015/' >/dev/tty Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 08:52:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA00476 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 08:52:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA04898 for pine-info-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 08:48:59 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gold.compulink.co.uk (gold.compulink.co.uk [194.153.1.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA04894 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 08:48:55 -0800 From: webmaster@freeloader.com Received: from gold.compulink.co.uk by gold.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/SMI-4.1) id QAA00874; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 16:40:52 GMT Received: ingenue.ingenue.com by XM99283-6733.com (8.7.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA23500 for <:-)> Received: by ingenue.ingenue.com (8.6.9/5.960514) Message-Id: <199610291595.LAA18900@ingenue.ingenue.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is support@primeleads.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1997 15:23:16 GMT Subject: Info???? HELP! X-UIDL: 92874592837459872394875928374987 Priority: urgent Status: MC Any ideas? How do we stop this shit? Ingenue don't care man! Complain all you like... HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! I seem to be getting a bevy of UCE from what appears to be ingenue.com Complaints to ingenue.com (cc abuse@d.n) have had zero effect, so I can only assume that this ISP condones UCE. Any ideas? > >The guy claims to use a mailer called MaxxAnon. > >In message <199610291595.LAA18900@ingenue.ingenue.com>, travel@faxme.com writes >Return-Path: >Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.1]) by aegis1.demon.co.uk > with SMTP id > for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 04:10:17 +0000 >Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net by mailstore for sft@aegis1.demon.co.uk > id 854235147:5:04871:0; Sat, 25 Jan 97 23:32:27 GMT >Received: from gold.compulink.co.uk ([194.153.1.10]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net > id aa504822; 25 Jan 97 23:32 GMT >Received: from gold.compulink.co.uk by gold.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/SMI-4.1) > id XAA06126; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 23:30:00 GMT >From: travel@faxme.com >Received: ingenue.ingenue.com by XM99283-6733.com (8.7.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id >JAA23500 for <:-)> >Received: by ingenue.ingenue.com (8.6.9/5.960514) >Message-Id: <199610291595.LAA18900@ingenue.ingenue.com> >Comments: Authenticated sender is shootman@ingenue.com >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1997 15:23:16 GMT >Subject: Travel Insurance >X-UIDL: ffffffffffffffffeeeeeeeddddddddd >Priority: urgent >Status: MC -- Stephen Tonkin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:17:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA00702 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:17:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA04508 for pine-info-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:14:10 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from usr09.primenet.com (usr09.primenet.com [206.165.5.109]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA04504 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:14:07 -0800 Received: from primenet.com (root@mailhost01.primenet.com [206.165.5.52]) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA03690 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 10:14:03 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr02.primenet.com (roger4@usr02.primenet.com [206.165.5.102]) by primenet.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA18818 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 10:13:59 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:13:59 -0800 (PST) From: Roger S Waldbaum Reply-To: Roger S Waldbaum To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Disappearing Headers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII ALL my headers have disappeared in filed e-mails, as well as incoming. HELP! Can they be restored? Although the Index command still shows the date of receipt and sending I have lost the times sent/received and my cc list. Any suggestions would be most appreciated. Thank you! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Roger S. Waldbaum roger4@primenet.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 10:46:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA23495 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 10:46:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA06411 for pine-info-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 10:42:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA06407 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 10:42:15 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voZTf-00038BC; Sun, 26 Jan 97 10:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jfrohm@alpha.delta.edu (Johanna Frohm) Subject: Re: Windows terminal and Pine. What gives? Date: 26 Jan 1997 13:11:25 -0500 Message-ID: <5cg6od$ejs@alpha.delta.edu> References: <5c6o0v$ac@news.acns.nwu.edu> Arsenio Oloroso (aol594@merle.acns.nwu.edu) wrote: : Can anyone advise on why Pine in Windows is so unruly? : Maybe it's me. But using the terminal program in Windows, I : can't get the [Control]^ function to work. The screen isn't : centered. Cursor control isn't responsive. In Windows 3.1 Terminal, verify the Menu item - Settings: * Terminal Preferences - remove the "X" in "Use Function, Arrow and Control Keys in Windows" -- my quess is this is your culprit Two others to check if that doesn't do it. * Terminal Emulation - what is the default for your system? For example, ours is VT100 or DEC VT100 * Also check Communications and verify the Data bits, Stops bits and Parity are set appropriated for your system. Hope that helps. -- Johanna =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Johanna Frohm jfrohm@alpha.delta.edu http://www.delta.edu/~jfrohm Employee Computer Training Center http://www.delta.edu/~emptrain From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 11:41:29 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA01987 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 11:41:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA07099 for pine-info-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 11:37:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from owl.jmu.edu (owl.jmu.edu [134.126.10.50]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA07095 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 11:37:12 -0800 Received: from jmu.edu (raven.jmu.edu [134.126.10.20]) by owl.jmu.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id OAA24047; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 14:36:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from RAVEN.JMU.EDU by RAVEN.JMU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-4 #15059) id <01IEO7M4PJWW00A6OR@RAVEN.JMU.EDU>; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 14:34:49 EST Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 14:34:49 -0500 (EST) From: help_david@jmu.edu Subject: changing login default id To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: marsh2da Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm using a vax/vms system to access pine where my vax id is different than my mail id. How can I configure pine to put my mail id as the default id instead of my vax/vms id? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 15:19:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA03743 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 15:19:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA09067 for pine-info-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 15:14:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from paaetms (paaetms.paaet.edu.kw [196.1.70.170]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA09058 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 15:14:25 -0800 From: temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw Received: by paaetms (5.x/SMI-SVR4) id AA05714; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 02:18:16 -0300 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 02:18:16 -0300 (GMT) Cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Windows terminal and Pine. What gives? In-Reply-To: <5cg6od$ejs@alpha.delta.edu> Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 26 Jan 1997, Johanna Frohm wrote: > Arsenio Oloroso (aol594@merle.acns.nwu.edu) wrote: > : Can anyone advise on why Pine in Windows is so unruly? > : Maybe it's me. But using the terminal program in Windows, I > : can't get the [Control]^ function to work. The screen isn't > : centered. Cursor control isn't responsive. > > In Windows 3.1 Terminal, verify the Menu item - Settings: > * Terminal Preferences - remove the "X" in "Use Function, Arrow > and Control Keys in Windows" -- my quess is this is your culprit > > Two others to check if that doesn't do it. > * Terminal Emulation - what is the default for your system? For > example, ours is VT100 or DEC VT100 > * Also check Communications and verify the Data bits, Stops bits and > Parity are set appropriated for your system. I've done all of the above and the control^ function still doesn't work. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 19:58:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA05930 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 19:58:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA12455 for pine-info-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 19:53:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (mailhost2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA12451 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 19:53:36 -0800 Received: from shiva1.cac.washington.edu (shiva1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.201]) by mailhost2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA25694; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 19:53:31 -0800 Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 19:53:30 -0800 (PST) From: Terry Gray To: Bart Thijs cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: multiple news-servers, multiple .newsrc In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Organization: University of Washington; Computing & Communications MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can anyone provide a written spec for the multple newsrc convention? -teg On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, Bart Thijs wrote: > > > On 23 Jan 1997, Mike Brudenell wrote: > > > Pine 3.95 does not support multiple .newsrc files, I'm afraid. > > > > Cheers, > > > > -- > > Mike Brudenell > > > > On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Bart Thijs wrote: > > > So, is it possible to have more than one .newsrc-file: > > > one for each server, i'm connected to > > > > > > Is there another mail-news-reader that supports multilpe servers, > multiple .newsrc-files. > > Bart Thijs > pink@kotnet.org > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 22:42:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA05694 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 22:42:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA15486 for pine-info-out; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 22:39:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from giasbma.vsnl.net.in (giasbma.vsnl.net.in [202.54.4.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA15475 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 22:39:00 -0800 Received: from localhost by giasbma.vsnl.net.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id MAA22707; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:11:55 +0530 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:11:54 +0530 (IST) From: Sarawgi Vipul X-Sender: vps@giasbma To: temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Windows terminal and Pine. What gives? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII hi, i also have been experiencing some problems in windows 3.1+pine shell. things appear line by line and very slowly. secondly in the inbox...the down arrow doesn't work..? any suggestions? bye, ----------------------------- Vipul Sarawgi from Bombay cheers ----------------------------- On Mon, 27 Jan 1997 temeemi@paaetms.paaet.edu.kw wrote: > On 26 Jan 1997, Johanna Frohm wrote: > > > Arsenio Oloroso (aol594@merle.acns.nwu.edu) wrote: > > : Can anyone advise on why Pine in Windows is so unruly? > > : Maybe it's me. But using the terminal program in Windows, I > > : can't get the [Control]^ function to work. The screen isn't > > : centered. Cursor control isn't responsive. > > > > In Windows 3.1 Terminal, verify the Menu item - Settings: > > * Terminal Preferences - remove the "X" in "Use Function, Arrow > > and Control Keys in Windows" -- my quess is this is your culprit > > > > Two others to check if that doesn't do it. > > * Terminal Emulation - what is the default for your system? For > > example, ours is VT100 or DEC VT100 > > * Also check Communications and verify the Data bits, Stops bits and > > Parity are set appropriated for your system. > > > I've done all of the above and the control^ function still doesn't work. > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 01:29:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA22324 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 01:29:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA17553 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 01:26:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA17543 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 01:26:29 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:23:15 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA13587; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:24:58 GMT Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:24:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: help_david@jmu.edu cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, marsh2da Subject: Re: changing login default id In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Assuming you are using IMAP to access your mailbox... Change its specification from seomthing along the lines of: {imap.site.domain}inbox to: {imap.site.domain/user=xxxx}inbox where "xxxx" is your username for the IMAP server computer. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Sun, 26 Jan 1997 help_david@jmu.edu wrote: > I'm using a vax/vms system to access pine where my vax id is different > than my mail id. How can I configure pine to put my mail id as the > default id instead of my vax/vms id? > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 06:37:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA10732 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 06:37:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA21161 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 06:34:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA21151 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 06:34:28 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vos76-00038YC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 06:32 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@neumann.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: ... where is the manual? (Re: Cruise mode?) Date: 26 Jan 1997 22:55:40 GMT Message-ID: References: <5cgfbu$jps$1@news.sas.ab.ca> thornes@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca whines: > I use pine because I am on a freenet, and the system they use is a lynx > browser with TIN newsreader and PINE email. We have a guide to freenet > manual, which tell you how to access PINE, how to read and post, and reply > and forward, BUT, about 99% of the features of PINE are not documented. > There is NO on-line help, NO manual [...] and no way except a usegroup like > this to find out information. Do not assume that because a person USES > Pine, that he has access to the PINE manual. Do not assume that comp.mail.pine is an interactive manual. I would not mind people asking where they get the manual from or where to get the FAQ - but asking questions without having had a glimpse at either the manual or the FAQ is inappropriate. Moreover, as you have lynx, you can use a search engine for the manual and even download it. Is that so hard? Take Altavista, for example: Enter "title:pine & title:manual" and you will get a dozen hits, eg: http://www.gmi.edu/official/acad/comp_ctr/pine_doc.html http://www.iit.edu/acc/manual/pine.html http://www.sp.utoledo.edu/pine.html http://cavern.uark.edu/~rholder/pine_html/pineman1.html http://www.uca.es/servicios/correo/pine/ At this I must admit, though, that these are not quite up-to-date. But I am sure you will find Pine's home page at http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/ > I work on the help desk, and we are told when a person asks a question > that is covered in our user guide, NOT to say read page ## of your user > guide, because they may NOT HAVE the user guide, and we have to go on the > assumption that they do not have access to the information, not that they > are too lazy to look it up. That MAY be the case, but it is NOT a chance > we are willing to take. You work at the help desk of that ISP? Well, then you deserve it! ;-) Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [pine] [960101] PINE Email List: Pine Information PINE Email List WWW archive (searchable): http://www.washington.edu:1180/pine/ PINE/ELM comparison: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/elm/elm.vs.pine.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:57:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA11981 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:57:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA21447 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:54:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA21443 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 07:54:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0votJn-00038YC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 07:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rhorlick@mtholyoke.edu (Rick Horlick) Subject: Good advice for Attachments in Pine Date: 19 Jan 1997 17:51:07 GMT Message-ID: <5btmub$4ro@news1.mtholyoke.edu> I've heard a range of advice on how to safely attach MM files, formatted files and programs to pine messages. I've always pkzipped programs and pictures (for example) on WinTel machines, and BinHexed Mac files. On mac files, I upload (to unix-based pine) in ASCII format, and attachfiles as-they-are. On IBM-compat's, I upload files (usually pkzipped, but not always), but always uuencode before attaching a file in pine. In an earlier discussion in this group, I read that pine always encodes non-printable files as Base64 (??), which seems to deal with 8-bit (ie, non-printable) ascii. Colleagues have argued that Mac or PC executables or non-text object files can be safely attached to pine messages, if only they are uploaded as binary. Who's right? (BTW, does uuencode both compact files? How about BinHex? [I know that PKZip does reduce filesize]). -- ______________________________________________________________________ Rick Horlick rhorlick@mtholyoke.edu Asst Dir for Curriculum Support and Instr. Techn. (Acting) 108 A Dwight Hall Mt. Holyoke College Phone: (413) 538-4163 S. Hadley, MA 01075 Fax: (413) 538-2246 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:23:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA12986 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:23:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA22886 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:19:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA22874 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:19:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vothp-00038aC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 08:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Eric Tse Subject: Re: Multiple Sigs. Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <5bk5kt$gki$2@news.sas.ab.ca> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 16:32:59 GMT Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII References: <5bk5kt$gki$2@news.sas.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 On 16 Jan 1997 thornes@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca wrote: > Is there anyway to set up a random .sig file in PINE? > > This way, I can write different things and have them appear randomly, or > maybe pick and choose. A while ago I wrote a Perl program which cycles through signature files and pick the next one in the cycle. It is used as a pipe (you pipe your message body through this program, it will advance the sig counter to the next sig on the cycle, and output your message body with the signature appended at the end). Say if you want random sigs (instead of cycling through them), a little modification to this program will do. This program is available through my home page. Just search for the word "Perl" ... Hope this helps! ________________________________________________________________ Eric Tse E-mail : jyetse@undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca World Wide Web : http://www.undergrad.math.uwaterloo.ca/~jyetse/ HTML, CGI, JavaScript, video games, online message system & more From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:48:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA13621 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:48:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA22760 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:44:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA22756 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 08:44:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vouAQ-00038aC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 08:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: jhd@Radix.Net (Joseph Davidson) Subject: Convert Address Lists between Mail Programs Date: 27 Jan 1997 11:13:41 -0500 Message-ID: <5cik7l$mt7@saltmine.radix.net> You can convert your mail address lists between Elm Pine Eudora Netscape Pegasus Database/Spreadsheet/Tabbed-ASCII/Compuserve,Spry Mail Microsoft Internet Mail all conversions are supported. Go to http://www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm also cc:Mail to all of above. This is a free service. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Joseph Davidson Ph.D. InterGuru -- Internet Training and Consulting Technical Web Service, Perl/CGI, E-mail address conversion service 1501 Dublin Drive, Silver Spring, Md. 20902 voice 301 593 4152 ; fax 301 593 2541 jdavidson@interguru.com, http://www.interguru.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:02:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA16500 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:02:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA25351 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:57:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA25347 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 09:57:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vovGK-00038aC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 09:54 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: info@cydonia.org (Josh Olaf) Subject: More UCE from ingenue.com Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 21:10:10 GMT Message-ID: <32ebc805.6249681@news.sirius.com> I received the following e-mail in my inbox today. The person who MAY be doing this also posted to comp.mail.pine with the following header: Subject: Info???? HELP! From: webmaster@freeloader.com Date: 1997/01/26 Message-Id: <199610291595.LAA18900@ingenue.ingenue.com> Sender: nobody@psg.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-Ascii X-M2n: psg.com Organization: PSGnet mail to news gate Mime-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine -- I have also recieved the following e-mail spam from the same person in two other messages. Of course, this is the same person. Josh -- #1 Received: from gold.compulink.co.uk (gold.compulink.co.uk [194.153.1.10]) by mail10.sirius.com (8.6.12/960919) with ESMTP id JAA02880 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 09:10:03 -0800 From: advertise@funmark.com Received: from gold.compulink.co.uk by gold.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/SMI-4.1) id RAA01287; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 17:00:08 GMT Received: ingenue.ingenue.com by XM99283-6733.com (8.7.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA23500 for <:-)> Received: by ingenue.ingenue.com (8.6.9/5.960514) Message-Id: <199610291595.LAA18900@ingenue.ingenue.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is support@primeleads.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1997 15:23:16 GMT Subject: How do we stop this? Priority: urgent Apparently-To: X-UIDL: 19970126.091006 Status: U X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Any ideas? How do we stop this shit? Ingenue don't care man! Complain all you like... HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! I seem to be getting a bevy of UCE from what appears to be ingenue.com Complaints to ingenue.com (cc abuse@d.n) have had zero effect, so I can only assume that this ISP condones UCE. Any ideas? > >The guy claims to use a mailer called MaxxAnon. > >In message <199610291595.LAA18900@ingenue.ingenue.com>, travel@faxme.com writes >Return-Path: >Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.1]) by aegis1.demon.co.uk > with SMTP id > for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 04:10:17 +0000 >Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net by mailstore for sft@aegis1.demon.co.uk > id 854235147:5:04871:0; Sat, 25 Jan 97 23:32:27 GMT >Received: from gold.compulink.co.uk ([194.153.1.10]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net > id aa504822; 25 Jan 97 23:32 GMT >Received: from gold.compulink.co.uk by gold.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/SMI-4.1) > id XAA06126; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 23:30:00 GMT >From: travel@faxme.com -- #2 Received: from gold.compulink.co.uk by gold.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/SMI-4.1) id RAA01536; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 17:13:21 GMT From: service@alvest.com Received: ingenue.ingenue.com by XM99283-6733.com (8.7.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id JAA23500 for <:-)> Received: by ingenue.ingenue.com (8.6.9/5.960514) Message-Id: <199610291595.LAA18900@ingenue.ingenue.com> Comments: Authenticated sender is bulkemail@colba.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1997 15:23:16 GMT Subject: What the xxxx? Priority: urgent Apparently-To: X-UIDL: 19970126.092214 Status: U X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 Any ideas? How do we stop this shit? Ingenue don't care man! Complain all you like... HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!!!!!! I seem to be getting a bevy of UCE from what appears to be ingenue.com Complaints to ingenue.com (cc abuse@d.n) have had zero effect, so I can only assume that this ISP condones UCE. Any ideas? > >The guy claims to use a mailer called MaxxAnon. > >In message <199610291595.LAA18900@ingenue.ingenue.com>, travel@faxme.com writes >Return-Path: >Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.1]) by aegis1.demon.co.uk > with SMTP id > for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 04:10:17 +0000 >Received: from relay-5.mail.demon.net by mailstore for sft@aegis1.demon.co.uk > id 854235147:5:04871:0; Sat, 25 Jan 97 23:32:27 GMT >Received: from gold.compulink.co.uk ([194.153.1.10]) by relay-5.mail.demon.net > id aa504822; 25 Jan 97 23:32 GMT >Received: from gold.compulink.co.uk by gold.compulink.co.uk (8.8.4/SMI-4.1) > id XAA06126; Sat, 25 Jan 1997 23:30:00 GMT >From: travel@faxme.com >Received: ingenue.ingenue.com by XM99283-6733.com (8.7.2/8.7.1) with SMTP id >JAA23500 for <:-)> >Received: by ingenue.ingenue.com (8.6.9/5.960514) >Message-Id: <199610291595.LAA18900@ingenue.ingenue.com> >Comments: Authenticated sender is shootman@ingenue.com >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1997 15:23:16 GMT >Subject: Travel Insurance >X-UIDL: ffffffffffffffffeeeeeeeddddddddd >Priority: urgent >Status: MC -- Stephen Tonkin From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:18:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA16951 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:18:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA25792 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:14:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA25787 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 10:14:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vovVZ-00038cC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 10:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: laughlin Subject: POP3 server Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 12:18:15 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there a way to connect to a POP3 server with pine???? if so how do you do it??? send me an e-mail at laughlin@netten.net Thanks Tim From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:45:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA19354 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:45:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA28121 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:37:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA28117 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:37:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vowl1-00038aC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 11:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: dbambw@panther.gsu.edu Subject: Re: How to send mail *directly* to news group? Date: 27 Jan 1997 13:14:10 GMT Message-ID: <5ci9n2$mur@arachnid.Gsu.EDU> References: <32E8DB83.9A6@stat.wharton.upenn.edu> I think what this poster may have meant, was: is it possible to "email" an article directly to a newsgroup, without "posting" thru a newsreader. I'm kinda curious about this too. I have a vague recollection of seeing something like this before. It inovlves an entry in the TO: field of an email message like alt.test@newsreader.blah.blah. Anybody have any info on this? TIA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:56:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA19698 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA28508 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:50:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA28504 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 11:50:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vox37-00038aC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 11:49 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gerald Vogt Subject: Re: Forwarding a message Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 18:16:07 +1000 Message-ID: <32EC6447.41C6@dstc.edu.au> References: <01bc0b9f$04e73c60$9907c580@Patrick> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sylvain Robitaille wrote: > > On 26 Jan 1997 15:38:48 GMT, Patrick Chan wrote: > >I am wondering how I can forward a message with .forward, but keeping all > >the messages in my mail box as well? > > Just add your regular email address to the .forward file. > > ie: > user1@machine1.domain1.bla, user2@machine2.domain2.bla, pchan@tufts.edu, > etc. Well, if your sendmail recognizes the recursion it will work. Better don't do it that way. You should use: \pchan, user1@foo.bar.dom The backslash (\) before your user name inhibits further aliasing. Without it, you will have a loop! -- Gerald Vogt E-Mail: vogt@dstc.edu.au PGP Fingerprint = 1A 57 2E B1 9B 39 81 C5 94 D3 FF B4 CC D8 DE 06 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:25:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA20270 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:25:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA00448 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:20:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA00440 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:20:15 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 27 Jan 97 21:20:07 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id UAA02507; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 20:56:51 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 20:56:51 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Sven Guckes cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: ... where is the manual? (Re: Cruise mode?) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 26 Jan 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: >thornes@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca whines: [snip] >> and forward, BUT, about 99% of the features of PINE are not documented. >> There is NO on-line help, NO manual [...] and no way except a usegroup like >> this to find out information. Do not assume that because a person USES > >Do not assume that comp.mail.pine is an interactive manual. >I would not mind people asking where they get the manual from >or where to get the FAQ - but asking questions without having had >a glimpse at either the manual or the FAQ is inappropriate. True. Pine Information Center: http://www.washington.edu/pine Source distribution: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z Pine Technical Notes, included in the source distribution. What more do you need? Besides, pine _does_ have an online-help in Setup Config and it _does_ have a man page. >Moreover, as you have lynx, you can use a search engine >for the manual and even download it. Is that so hard? Good point. [snip] >> I work on the help desk, and we are told when a person asks a question >> that is covered in our user guide, NOT to say read page ## of your user >> guide, because they may NOT HAVE the user guide, and we have to go on the >> assumption that they do not have access to the information, not that they >> are too lazy to look it up. That MAY be the case, but it is NOT a chance >> we are willing to take. Faulty logic, I'd say - how can they tell you not to refer to a user guide you said you didn't have? I must admit I really don't like your attitude. Just my $.02. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:25:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA17485 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:25:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA00443 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:20:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA00438 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:20:13 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 27 Jan 97 21:20:05 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA02628; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:13:31 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:13:31 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: laughlin cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: POP3 server In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, laughlin wrote: >Is there a way to connect to a POP3 server with pine???? if so how do you >do it??? From both the FAQ and QandA: Can Pine be used with a POP server? As of version 3.95, PC-Pine cannot be used with a POP (Post Office Protocol) server. Pine for Unix can be configured to access the message INBOX on a POP3 server using the folder definition syntax {pop3server/pop3}INBOX where pop3server is the hostname of the POP3 server. However, this method accesses the POP server in quasi-online mode, not in offline mode, which POP was designed for. Accessing the inbox on a POP3 server with Pine does not preserve changes to message flags (New, Answered, Deleted, etc.) between sessions. >send me an e-mail at laughlin@netten.net Yeah, that's what the header said, thanks... Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:28:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA21022 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:28:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA00457 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:20:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA00445 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:20:18 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 27 Jan 97 21:20:09 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA02602; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:10:15 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:10:15 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Josh Olaf cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: More UCE from ingenue.com In-Reply-To: <32ebc805.6249681@news.sirius.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 26 Jan 1997, Josh Olaf wrote: >I received the following e-mail in my inbox today. >The person who MAY be doing this also posted to >comp.mail.pine with the following header: [snipped GIANT, ANNOYING and UNNECCESSARY soapbox] Now - this is a mailing list for the email program pine - right? Now here's what the FAQ says: How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not perform delivery filtering; that is the function of other programs, such as (on Unix hosts) "procmail" or "mailagent." For details on selection and configuration of such programs, see the Filtering Mail FAQ (by Nancy McGough) at one of the following locations: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/ faq.html http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq The Filtering Mail FAQ would have directed to a document called: http://digital.net/~gandalf/spamfaq.html which, in turn, would have directed you to: http://www.mv.com/users/gmcgath/selfdefense.html and to: Spam cancellation notice (spam guidelines) : http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/notice.htm and to: How to get rid of Junk Mail, Spam and Telemarketers: http://www.csn.net/~felbel/jnkmail.html but certainly not to comp.mail.pine or this mailing list. So stop whining, get yourself procmail and read the f* netiquette, especiall the part which tells you how to respond properly without stuffing other people's inboxes with HUGE SOAPBOXES full of "important" content. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:34:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA22530 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:34:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA01987 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:30:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA01982 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:30:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0voybj-00038aC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 13:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: deviate@lipschitz.sfasu.edu (J. Kelly Cunningham) Subject: Re: Config Dowload-Command-HELP! Message-ID: <1137cd$c2430.da@news.sfasu.edu> Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 18:36:48 GMT References: <5bm1rn$ee2@sol.towson.edu> <5bmscn$7ku@news.asu.edu> In article <5bmscn$7ku@news.asu.edu>, wrote: >On 16 Jan 1997 20:08:23 GMT, Douglas Rockwell wrote: >> In PINE, you can configure Download Command so that Export has an option >> to use a Unix command to send the file directly to a PC. > >> I used >> sz _FILE_ >> also plain >> sz > >> and the file downloads correctly, BUT is has a random file name instead of >> the Subject. > >> How can I configure it to either >> 1. let me enter a filename prior to download >> 2. take the Subject as the default? >> TIA >> -- > >Unfortunately, pine currently has no way of configuring the filename. >Maybe, you should send a suggestion by pressing "b" from the main menu >and selecting the option to send one. As for the command, I would >recommend "sz -a" instead of plain "sz" so the end-of-lines can be converted. > >-- >Adam Myrow > I use this script: #!/bin/csh -f echo -n Enter a file name:\ ; set file = $< mv $1 /tmp/$file sz -ua /tmp/$file -- -- kc It was a book to kill time for those who liked it better dead. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:40:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA22838 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:40:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA02193 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:36:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA02189 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:36:51 -0800 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 13:36:51 -0800 From: "<"<@IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de:info@cydonia.org> Message-Id: <199701272136.NAA02189@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Received: from cydonia.org by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 27 Jan 97 22:21:35 MEZ Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mail10.sirius.com (8.6.12/960919) with SMTP id MAA23717 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 12:20:18 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Mon, 27 Jan 97 21:20:09 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id VAA02602; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:10:15 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:10:15 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Josh Olaf cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: More UCE from ingenue.com In-Reply-To: <32ebc805.6249681@news.sirius.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-UIDL: 19970127.122021 Status: U X-Mozilla-Status: 0011 On Sun, 26 Jan 1997, Josh Olaf wrote: >I received the following e-mail in my inbox today. >The person who MAY be doing this also posted to >comp.mail.pine with the following header: [snipped GIANT, ANNOYING and UNNECCESSARY soapbox] Now - this is a mailing list for the email program pine - right? Now here's what the FAQ says: How can I filter messages into different incoming folders? Pine does not perform delivery filtering; that is the function of other programs, such as (on Unix hosts) "procmail" or "mailagent." For details on selection and configuration of such programs, see the Filtering Mail FAQ (by Nancy McGough) at one of the following locations: http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/hypertext/faq/usenet/mail/filtering-faq/ faq.html http://www.smartpages.com/faqs/mail/filtering-faq/faq.html ftp://ftp.halcyon.com/pub/ii/internet/filtering_mail_faq.txt ftp://rtfm.mit.edu/pub/usenet/news.answers/mail/filtering-faq The Filtering Mail FAQ would have directed to a document called: http://digital.net/~gandalf/spamfaq.html which, in turn, would have directed you to: http://www.mv.com/users/gmcgath/selfdefense.html and to: Spam cancellation notice (spam guidelines) : http://spam.ohww.norman.ok.us/notice.htm and to: How to get rid of Junk Mail, Spam and Telemarketers: http://www.csn.net/~felbel/jnkmail.html but certainly not to comp.mail.pine or this mailing list. So stop whining, get yourself procmail and read the f* netiquette, especiall the part which tells you how to respond properly without stuffing other people's inboxes with HUGE SOAPBOXES full of "important" content. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Look freak, The post I made was in reference to a spew of UCE that has been seen going out of gold.compulink.co.uk, and has been recently seen on the newsgroup comp.mail.pine. I don't know where you get off with your 'holier-than-thou' attitude, but perhaps they didn't teach you how to read and comprehend the english language over at Bonn University. Anyway, I'm not holding it against you, nor am I going to make erroneous statements about the mail you received from some mailing list I don't even know about it. But, since they did teach me to read and write the language over here in the states, I will be the first to inform you that I never posted ANY message to your lame mailing list. In fact, I posted a warning message to news.admin.net-abuse, demon.service, and comp.mail.pine, which were and still are the relevent groups and on-topic groups for the discussion of the UCE mailbomber who is using ingenue.com as a front for his illegal UCE spams. Since you are obviously too dense to put 1+1 together and figure out that any post made to comp.mail.pine is prob. getting forwarded to some mailing list, you would then understand that I did not intentionally post to this mailing list you are now receiving this e-mail on. So instead of accusing me of all this BONNifide crap, try and understand what is going on around you for once in your life...the fact remains, the criminal UCE spammer was last seen on comp.mail.pine, so are you harboring and defending the criminal spammer who my original post was intended to help other people track down? Why in HELL did you accuse me of soapboxing and other crap when all I did was post the headers from the UCE spammer in question? Do you have some kind of serious mental imbalance?? Anyway, I hope you're inbox is full of UCE in the coming months, and whatevr you do, don't send me any more e-mail until you can prove to me that you can read and write the language. BCNU, J. Olaf info@cydonia.org From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:20:05 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA24072 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA02009 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:15:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA02005 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:15:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vozJj-00038aC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 14:14 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 T problem Date: 24 Jan 1997 16:51:18 GMT Message-ID: References: <5camd4$2dq@ns1.nl.cis.philips.com> nygeerts@sspl02.seri.philips.nl (Arjan Geertsema): > When edditing a mail it is possible to go to your address-book whith > T - this command is unfortunately also the command in a VT100 > terminal to start a new terminal ..... > Is it possible to change this bindkey to something else ? Are you using a terminal proram to connect from your computer? Then the problem might be with that program taking the ^T as a command and thus not passing it on to pico/pine. Just a guess. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:13:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA25609 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:13:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA03516 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:08:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from logjam.ucc.nau.edu (mailgate.nau.edu [134.114.96.14]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA03448 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:05:02 -0800 Received: from dana.ucc.nau.edu by NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU (PMDF V5.1-5 #18805) with ESMTP id <01IEO5CTWPD899DNTB@NAUVAX.UCC.NAU.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:33:01 MST Received: from localhost (cjh5@localhost) by dana.ucc.nau.edu (8.8.5/2.12b-nau) with SMTP id MAA12879 for ; Sun, 26 Jan 1997 12:01:07 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 12:01:06 -0700 (MST) From: Chandra Joy Harris Subject: reporting a bug! To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Pine Development Team, I have had a problem saving this version of Pine for some time now! No matter what I do the program refuses to install itself and here's what it says:[Error saving configuration in file "/home/usr6/cjh5/.pinerc": Disc quota exceeded]. Also, it pops up little messages such as:[No room for file: Disc quota exceeded]. The problem is that in order to save disc space I should be able to delete old saved messages and start new files for the newer one, but it will not let me do that either. So I am left writing this message to you for help. If anything, please reply and give me some suggestions. Thank you! Yours, Frustrated NAU student From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:19:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA25792 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:19:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA05076 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:15:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA05070 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:15:25 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vp0Gk-00038bC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 15:15 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: External viewer for HTML messages Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1997 18:14:16 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Would it be possible to define lynx as an external viewer for text/html messages? How? I'm running Linux. \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:40:37 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA26238 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:40:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA04260 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:35:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA04255 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 15:35:27 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vp0Za-00038aC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 15:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: Printing from Pine Date: 13 Jan 1997 04:39:53 GMT Message-ID: References: <9701082228.AA00953@ulnar.BioStr.Washington.EDU> On 8 Jan 1997 14:35:36 -0800, William Barker wrote: > >In order to print out a copy of a message I am sending >someone from Pine I have been in the habit of sending myself >a copy & then printing it out. Is there some way I can print >out a message before I send it off? On a Unix system, you could set an alternate editor, (vi, for example), then when you're ready to print, invoke the alternate editor with the ^_ command, and print from there. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi Barometer, n.: An ingenious instrument which indicates what kind of weather we are having. -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:03:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA26786 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:03:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA06134 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:00:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA06130 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:00:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vp0wt-00038bC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 15:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "TutEnchAmun" Subject: Re: Forwarding a message Date: 27 Jan 1997 12:05:22 GMT Message-ID: <01bc0c4a$34c721b0$4e0376c2@devsys> References: <01bc0b9f$04e73c60$9907c580@Patrick> <32EC6447.41C6@dstc.edu.au> >Gerald Vogt wrote in article <32EC6447.41C6@dstc.edu.au>... You could as well just use \. That works fine as well. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:09:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA26863 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:09:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA05053 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:05:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA05043 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:05:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vp12Z-00038eC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 16:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ellis@gmi.edu (R. Stewart Ellis) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 Patch #1 now available Date: 19 Jan 1997 20:42:54 GMT Message-ID: <5bu10e$dhi$1@news.eecs.umich.edu> References: Martin Struwe writes: > Hello, >> Date: 14 Jan 1997 22:46:10 -0800 >> From: Michael Seibel >> Subject: Pine 3.95 Patch #1 now available >> >> The small patch itself is available from: >> >> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine3.95.patch-1 >This patch-file doesn't work on three different systems. Can you help me? >accra:~/pine3.95> patch -f < pine3.95.patch-1 >Hmm... Looks like a new-style context diff to me... >The text leading up to this was: >-------------------------- >|*** imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile.orig Fri Jun 21 14:25:45 1996 >|--- imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile Tue Oct 15 15:28:55 1996 >-------------------------- >Patching file imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile using Plan A... >patch: **** Overdue "---" at line 13--check line numbers at line 4 Did you get a failed file? >My System: >Patch version 2.1 [GNU] >GNU diff version 2.2 >SunOS accra 5.5.1 Generic sun4m sparc SUNW,SPARCclassic [Solaris 2.5] >[same error on] >SunOS fsinfo 4.1.3 1 sun4c On my system Enterprise 3K, SunOS5.5.1, gcc 2.7.2, patch 2.1, I think it ran the patch alright. It did compile the patched version OK. The same files also compiled OK when mounted on a SunOS 2.4 machine with gcc 2.5.6. >Sincerely, Maletin. >-- >Martin Struwe http://fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de/~struwe/ >Zimmer 1.4.2 mailto:struwe@cs.uni-sb.de >Richard-Wagner-Str. 91 >66125 Dudweiler (Saar) Lehrstuhl Prof. Weikum: >V+F: +49-6897-728308 Bau 36 Raum 322 Tel: +49-681-302-4847 -- R.Stewart(Stew) Ellis, Assoc.Prof., (Off)810-762-9765 ___________________ Humanities & Social Science, GMI Eng.& Mgmt.Inst. () / _____ ______ Flint, MI 48504 Free speech and free software! /\ / / / / / / Web admin: http://www.gmi.edu/ ellis@gmi.edu /________/ / / / / From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:24:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA27213 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA06673 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:20:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cheam.ucfv.bc.ca (cheam.ucfv.bc.ca [198.162.96.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA06669 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:19:58 -0800 Received: (from hammr@localhost) by cheam.ucfv.bc.ca (8.7.6/8.7.3) id QAA06354 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:16:24 -0800 (PST) From: Rob Hamm Message-Id: <199701280016.QAA06354@cheam.ucfv.bc.ca> Subject: Restricted Pine and Pico To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:16:24 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text I've seen questions like the following in the archives, but no real final answers, so... How can I configure Pine and Pico so they are quite secure (on a Unix machine)? specifically; - no shell escapes at all - no suspending of pine (full removal of ctrl-Z) - no ability for PICO to read in files that have a "/" in them I'm aware of Rsh, but that doesn't prevent reading (for example) of /etc/passwd. I saw a reference in the archives to pine.conf.fixed, but can't find that file in my 3.95 distribution. Thabks for any/all help! -- Rob Hamm Systems and Networks Administrator University College of the Fraser Valley http://www.ucfv.bc.ca/cats/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:51:10 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA27845 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:51:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA07418 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:46:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA07402 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:46:07 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 28 Jan 97 01:45:56 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA03997; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:59:12 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:59:12 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Chandra Joy Harris cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: reporting a bug! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 26 Jan 1997, Chandra Joy Harris wrote: >Subject: reporting a bug! ^^^ Nope >;-> >I have had a problem saving this version of Pine for some time now! No >matter what I do the program refuses to install itself and here's what it >says:[Error saving configuration in file "/home/usr6/cjh5/.pinerc": Disc >quota exceeded]. Also, it pops up little messages such as:[No room for >file: Disc quota exceeded]. You're running a kernel with quota utilities. (Well, probably not you but your ISP, but nevermind) >The problem is that in order to save disc >space I should be able to delete old saved messages and start new files >for the newer one, but it will not let me do that either. Ok, here's what to do (preferably in that order;-)) 1. You might also check if you're able to make/delete a file in the appropriate place for your mail. If not, 2. Check the permissions in your home file or whatever /home/usr6/cjh5/ is by means of the ls command: ls -alF (or -al) You ought to have write permission there. 3. Check the permissions in your Mail-dir. If it's not ~/Mail, you have a problem, because you'll have to 4. Talk to your SysAdmin. If 1. and 2. are true, you need to change the write permissions: chmod u+w (or rw if you like) should do the trick. If you're working on your own computer, get rid of quota, because you don't need it. >Frustrated NAU student ^^^^^^^^^^ If that small problem is getting you frustrated, you'd rather not mess with _real_ problems >;-> Cheers, Robin LinuX-ridden PS student *grin* ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:51:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA27846 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:51:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA07411 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:46:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA07391 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:46:01 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 28 Jan 97 01:45:53 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id BAA04192; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:15:43 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:15:43 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: Peter Karlsson cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: External viewer for HTML messages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Mon, 20 Jan 1997, Peter Karlsson wrote: >Would it be possible to define lynx as an external viewer for text/html >messages? How? I'm running Linux. Here's what Steve Coile scoile@patriot.net wrote some time ago: ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ If you can identify an incoming message as being of MIME type text/html, why not simply translate it before delivery rather than bouncing it? If you have Lynx installed on your system, you should be able to do something like the following in your ".procmailrc" (if you're using procmail) (untested; use at your own risk): :0 bf * ^Content-type: text/html | cat > /tmp/m$$.html ; lynx -dump /tmp/m$$.html ; rm /tmp/m$$.html This should take all messages containing a header line starting, "Content-type: text/html" and pipe the body of the message through the command given, which saves the body to a file ("cat > /tmp/m$$.html"), uses Lynx to convert the HTML to plain text ("lynx -dump /tmp/m$$.html"), then removes the old body ("rm /tmp/m$$.html"). The output from Lynx is captured as the new body of the message and processing of your ".procmailrc" continues. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Doesn't work with me, but I think it should. I'll check that with the procmail-group. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:52:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA27874 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:52:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA07422 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:46:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA07414 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 16:46:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vp1fL-00038aC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 16:44 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: kathy@fred.net (Kathy Bilton) Subject: Re: Printing from Pine Date: 17 Jan 1997 14:42:35 GMT Message-ID: <5bo34s$pg4@news.fred.net> References: <5bk5c4$gki$1@news.sas.ab.ca> Terry Gray (gray@cac.washington.edu) wrote: : works if the PC or Mac comm software understands ansi printer escape : sequences. Alas, many comm or telnet programs do not (including the : Microsoft telnet that is bundled with Windows 95). The CRT telnet program available at http://www.vandyke.com was recommended to me the other day when I posted a q. on my local newsgroup regarding printing from Pine via a telnet connection. I haven't tried it yet. I have had no problem printing from Pine with the Y command using dialup shell account - and Procomm Plus. Can also print from dialup freenet-like account using same setup, though I have heard others report the problem of the full message not being printed in the case of a long message, as was mentioned in another post. (But I don't recall what software they were using.) --Kathy Kathy Bilton kathy@fred.net http://www.fred.net/kathy/ ....`O-o..... Appalachian Trail Home Page http://www.fred.net/kathy/at.html From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:07:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA28228 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:07:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA06578 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:01:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA06574 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:01:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vp1sJ-00038aC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 16:58 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ruibiao Qiu Subject: How can I bounced back email from certain address? Date: Sun, 19 Jan 1997 15:47:42 -0500 Message-ID: <32E2886E.1B2B@cs.fiu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=gb2312 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, there I am wondering if pine can bounce back email from a certain email address? To the sender, it will look like the address is not valid, hopefully. Regards -- Ruibiao Qiu ============================================================ Email: rqiu01@cs.fiu.edu | Home Page: Tel: (O)(305)348-4038 | http://www.cs.fiu.edu/~rqiu01 (H)(305)220-9294 | Fax: (305)348-3549 ============================================================ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:32:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA27936 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:32:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA08342 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:25:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA08338 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:25:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vp2Hr-00038cC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 17:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Personalizing your FINGER listing. Date: 25 Jan 1997 17:55:16 GMT Message-ID: References: swhite@goucher.edu (The Turbaned Leprechaun): > Does anybody know how to change the "In real life:" entry in the finger > listing? A friend who's done it for himself says that he used a four-letter > command which begins with 'c'. Should be "chfn" ("change finger"). It may be necessary to use ypchfn, though. Hint: If you are looking for a command then use "apropos" to find it: $apropos finger cfingerd, in.cfingerd (8) - GNU finger client daemon gfinger (1) - Local GNU finger system gfingerd (8) - GNU finger server daemon hostconfig (5) - GNU finger host configuration file ttylocs (5) - GNU finger tty and host locations database finger (1) - display information about users fingerd, in.fingerd (8C) - remote user information server Of course this works only if "apropos" and a whatis database is installed etc Anyway, my point is - use the available commands and ask locally before posting! Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:32:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA27933 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:32:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA07227 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:25:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA07217 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:25:44 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vp2Hp-00038bC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 17:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Re-sending a message in Pine Date: 25 Jan 1997 17:57:08 GMT Message-ID: References: mats.petersson@mbox301.swipnet.se (Mats Petersson): > Anyone who knows if it is possible to re-send a previously written message > in Pine? I have looked everywhere for a command to do this, but to no avail. > I think it's strange if there is no such possibility... Well, it isn't there because a sent mail usually isn't sent several times. ;-) I am sure that you are able to save the mail to a file and resend it by reading it into a mail. A bounce command can be helpful, too. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:33:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA28676 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:33:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA08336 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:25:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA08326 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:25:38 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vp2Ho-00038aC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 17:24 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: readonly Date: 25 Jan 1997 17:59:04 GMT Message-ID: References: elidab@umich.edu (Elida Bautista): > My e-mail will not allow me to delete, and all of my folders indicate that > they are "read-only". I did not give it a command to lock the folders, so > I was wondering how I can take off this "lock" from my folders. chmod o+w file This adds write permission to a file for the owner. Example: chmod o+w ~/Mail/elidab Of course this works for a bunch of files, too: chmod o+w ~/Mail/* Learn UNIX! :-) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 18:33:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA29448 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 18:33:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA09467 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 18:29:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA09460 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 18:29:13 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 28 Jan 97 03:29:06 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA04730; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:51:45 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:51:44 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Ruibiao Qiu cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How can I bounced back email from certain address? In-Reply-To: <32E2886E.1B2B@cs.fiu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Ruibiao Qiu wrote: >I am wondering if pine can bounce back email from a certain email >address? To the sender, it will look like the address is not valid, >hopefully. Trying to start some serious spamming? >;-> As the pine- FAQ would have told you, pine cannot filter mail. Check Nancy McGough's filtering-faq at: FAQ-launcher-URLs: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:15:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA29986 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:15:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA10207 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:12:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu (donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu [141.211.63.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA10203 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:12:36 -0800 Received: by donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/3.0-mailhub) id WAA29527; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:12:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from root@choplifter.rs.itd.umich.edu(141.211.63.90) by donkeykong.rs.itd.umich.edu via smap (2.0-umich) id xma029486; Mon, 27 Jan 97 22:12:24 -0500 Received: from localhost by choplifter.rs.itd.umich.edu (8.7.5/3.0-client) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:12:22 -0500 (EST) From: DEIDRE MARIE GREEN X-Sender: greencda@choplifter.rs.itd.umich.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Using Netscape to access mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I send mail through Netscape, but it only shows through Netscape and not pine that it was ever sent. Also, I have been sent pictures through E- Mail and it cannot be seen here, Can I covertit to Netscape to see it? Thanks Dee C From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:23:38 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA30154 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:23:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA09292 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:20:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA09286 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:20:53 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vp449-00038aC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 19:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Steve Howie Subject: Re: POP3: Keep messages on server Date: 24 Jan 1997 13:49:47 GMT Message-ID: References: <32E016C1.6AF2@whowhere.com> <32e8245a.937404@news.otago.ac.nz> In comp.mail.pine Richard Stevenson wrote: :On Fri, 17 Jan 1997 16:18:09 -0800, Rupesh Kapoor : wrote: :> I am writing a pop client. Does anyone have suggestions on how to fetch :> only the new messages if the user doesn't want the client to delete them :> on server? I could do it using UIDL, but many servers don't support it. :> :> The netscape mail client seems to do a "TOP 0" ..., but even :> TOP is non-portable. :TOP and UIDL are your only choices. Try UIDL first, since it's :faster, then TOP. If the server supports neither, it's decrepit :anyway and ought to be upgraded... some pressure on ISPs from users :should fix that quickly enough ;-) Please don't do what Net$crape does with their "mail" client in Navigator. They refuse to honour the "leave mail on server", and delete the mail in any case if the server does not support the UIDL command. Really, really stupid. They delete the mail, *then* say that the option is not supported! -- Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Listserv Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= -- Scotty ================================================================= Steve Howie Email: showie@uoguelph.ca NetNews and Listserv Admin. Phone: (519) 824-4120 x2556 Computing and Communications Svcs. Fax: (519) 763-6143 University of Guelph If it's not Scottish its CRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAPPPPP ================================================================= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:39:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA30265 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA10537 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:35:58 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA10532 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:35:55 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vp4JG-00038aC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 19:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: tgrock@tiger.towson.edu (Douglas Rockwell) Subject: How to Export to particular Dir? Date: 27 Jan 1997 20:13:06 GMT Message-ID: <5cj28i$ak3@sol.towson.edu> Subject: How to Export to particular Dir? Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine Summary: Keywords: Lines: 7 X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX 1.3 950515BETA PL0] I can't figure out how to get Pine to Export to directory other than $Home. Is it possible to configure it to Export to another subdirectory as a default? -- Doug The price of freedom is infernal vigilantes -- Doug The price of freedom is infernal vigilantes From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:40:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA30275 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:40:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA09499 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:36:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA09495 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:35:58 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vp4JG-00038bC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 19:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Michael Eilman Subject: Pine for Intel DG Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 14:00:26 -0800 Message-ID: <32E7DF7A.4FDA@erols.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Does anyone have the makefile for Pine on the new Intel DG Aviions? Does anyone else in the world have an Intel Aviion? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:46:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA30311 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:46:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA10656 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:43:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (uxa.ecn.bgu.edu [143.43.32.11]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA10652 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 19:42:58 -0800 Received: from ecom7.ecn.bgu.edu (gcandel@ecom7.ecn.bgu.edu [143.43.32.27]) by uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (8.8.2/8.8.2) with ESMTP id VAA29293 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:42:56 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (gcandel@localhost) by ecom7.ecn.bgu.edu (8.7.3/8.7.3) with SMTP id VAA15779 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:42:57 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: ecom7.ecn.bgu.edu: gcandel owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:42:57 -0600 (CST) From: Dominic Candeloro X-Sender: gcandel@ecom7.ecn.bgu.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: wont write to sent Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII keep getting an error message that my email copy to sent file failed and that I have exceeded the disc space quota. This even after I have deleted almost every file in sent. Any suggestions? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 20:39:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA30961 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 20:39:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA10430 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 20:35:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post-ofc05.srv.cis.pitt.edu (post-ofc05.srv.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA10426 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 20:35:26 -0800 Received: from unixs4.cis.pitt.edu (wsi@unixs4.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.55]) by post-ofc05.srv.cis.pitt.edu with SMTP (8.8.5/cispo-2.0.1.7) ID for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:34:36 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:34:36 -0500 (EST) From: "William B. Silverman M.D." X-Sender: wsi@unixs4.cis.pitt.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: how to use local printer Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Please explain how to printer a Pine message from my Macintosh screen to the Mac printer attached to th CPU. I have been (unfortunately) unable to find the answer to this locally. Again, thank you for your help. Dr. Bill Silverman From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:30:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA16606 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:30:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA11134 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:24:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA11130 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:24:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.8.3/8.5) with SMTP id XAA21730; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:13:50 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:13:49 -0600 (CST) From: Robert J Wilshe Reply-To: Robert J Wilshe To: Dominic Candeloro cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: wont write to sent In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dominic: Check with your school's mail administrator or IS department to see if you have a certain disk space quota. Most standard-issue school email accounts (like mine) are given a certain amount of total disk space you can occupy. This is usually the total of your mailbox, and whatever space the files in your home directory take up. If this is small (less than 500k) you really don't have enough room to archive much mail. It appears from the message headers in your mail that you are using Pine 3.95 on a UNIX Solaris system. Usually under most UNIX configurations, your mailbox (INBOX) is stored in a different location than Pine's folders. Pine's folders are stored in your home directory in a subdirectory named "mail". Do the "ls -la" command in that directory to see how much space whatever files in there are taking up. Also, try these things: 1) Clean out mail in your "saved-messages" folder, or in any pruned folders you might have in your mail directory. 2) Consider FTPing or transfering any mail archives off of your mail directory onto a floppy or other hard drive. 3) Clean out any unneeded files in your home directory. 4) Delete any unwanted messages in your INBOX if you haven't already. 5) Once you know how much disk space you're allotted, run the "du -ak" command from your home directory. The last number that appears in the list that follows is the total disk space your home directory occupies in Kilobytes. This will help you keep tabs on your disk space used (not including what you have in your INBOX. Hope this helps! Feel free to write me directly for additional help or questions. \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ robert depaul university joseph chicago illinois wilshe u s a email rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, Dominic Candeloro wrote: > > keep getting an error message that my email copy to sent file >failed and that I have exceeded the disc space quota. This even after I >have deleted almost every file in sent. Any suggestions? > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:54:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA30028 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:54:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA11616 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:51:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail-hub3.weeg.uiowa.edu (mail-hub3.weeg.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.23]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA11611 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 21:51:00 -0800 Received: from green.weeg.uiowa.edu (root@green.weeg.uiowa.edu [128.255.56.25]) by mail-hub3.weeg.uiowa.edu (8.7.6/8.7.3) with ESMTP id XAA09034 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:50:58 -0600 Received: from localhost by green.weeg.uiowa.edu (8.7.6/client-1.3) id XAA89750; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:50:18 -0600 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:50:17 -0600 (CST) From: "A. Caruso" X-Sender: acaruso@green.weeg.uiowa.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: problem!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi! I am having trouble with my scroll arrows and mouse. Currently, (this has been a problem for about 4 days) I am unable to move my cursor by using either my mouse or scroll button. Could you be of assistance? Thank you, Angie Caruso From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:49:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA32270 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:49:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA13322 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:46:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA13318 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:46:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vp7I2-00038bC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 22:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Julie Browall Subject: Re: help on attachments Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 12:14:42 -0600 Message-ID: References: <5c5ke5$cbe@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5c5ke5$cbe@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> Hi there, I am struggling as well, to recieve an attachment, that was included with my e-mail messsage. What is the easiest way to retrieve this? Could I find it in my personal name file? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:49:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA32287 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:49:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA12399 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:46:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA12395 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 22:46:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vp7I2-00038cC; Mon, 27 Jan 97 22:45 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Using file names with high bit characters Date: 27 Jan 1997 22:19:29 GMT Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit dat95pkn@idt.mdh.se (Peter Karlsson): > When I tried to save a mesages with a character that had the high bit set > (an ö), Pine complained that the file name contained an illegal character. > How do I turn out this highly annoying behaviour? Use "oe" instead. Works for me! ;-) Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de Join the supporter group for umlauts and diacritics! Ä À Á Â Ã Å Æ ç Ë È Í Ê Ï Ì Í Î ñ Ö Ò Ó Ô Õ Ø Ü Ù Ú Û ý ÿ ¥ £ ß ä à á â ã å æ Ç ë è é ê ï ì í î Ñ ö ò ó ô õ ø ü ù ú û Ý From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:34:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA32606 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:34:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA13027 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:29:05 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from xmission.xmission.com (xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA13023 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:29:02 -0800 Received: from localhost (slick_rk@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.4/8.7.5) with SMTP id AAA14701; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:28:56 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 00:28:55 -0700 (MST) From: Rick To: dbambw@panther.gsu.edu cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to send mail *directly* to news group? In-Reply-To: <5ci9n2$mur@arachnid.Gsu.EDU> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 27 Jan 1997 dbambw@panther.gsu.edu wrote: > I think what this poster may have meant, was: is it possible to "email" > an article directly to a newsgroup, without "posting" thru a newsreader. > > I'm kinda curious about this too. I have a vague recollection of seeing > something like this before. It inovlves an entry in the TO: field > of an email message like alt.test@newsreader.blah.blah. > > Anybody have any info on this? > I have never heard of anything like what you are talking of in the TO: field, but I do know that from pine I can post directly to a newsgroup. If I use ^R to enRich the header it displays a field labeled "NEWSGRPS" and when I type in the name of the newsgroup there it posts it for me. Amiga / / slick_rk@xmission.com 2000 / / Rick Kelley \ \/ / 2736 Grant Ave. \/\/ Ogden, UT 84401 -------------------------------------------- Member of "Team AMIGA" -------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:48:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA32690 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:48:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA13198 for pine-info-out; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:35:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ren.ren.nic.in (ren.nic.in [164.100.10.18]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA13190 for ; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:35:04 -0800 From: guest@csimtech.ren.nic.in Received: by ren.ren.nic.in (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA10093; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:10:38 +0530 >From: General User A/C X-Mailer: SCO System V Mail (version 3.2) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Date: Tue, 28 Jan 97 12:16:07 GMT Message-ID: <9701281216.aa03905@csimtech.csimtech.ren.nic.in> Received: from csimtech by ren.nic.in; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:10 IST Content-Type: text Dear Sir, Following message is encoded in mime format. 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(PP); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:12:58 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA14538; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:14:41 GMT Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:14:38 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Rick cc: dbambw@panther.gsu.edu, pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: How to send mail *directly* to news group? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" The trick of using ^R to display all the headers and then filling in the "Newsgorpus:" header field tells Pine to use NNTP (a News style connection) to port the article to a new server. If the "To:" field is also filled in then the message is e-mailed (using SMTP) to a mail server somewhere. It *is* possible to send Usenet News articles to newsgroups even if you don't have access to a Usenet News server yourself. And this _is_ done using the "To:" field, not the "Newsgroups:" field. The trick is to e-mail ("To:" field) the message to a Usenet News <-> Mail gateway machine. The "username" is derived from the newsgroup name. In particular, if memory serves, the usual thing is to convert a newsgroup name of the form "alt.this.that" to "alt-this-that" (ie, change "." characters to "-"'s) Thus to send a message to alt.this.that it could be e-mailed to alt-this-that@some.gateway.machine Unfortunately I can't recall the IP names of any such public access News<->Mail gateways off the top of my head. Can anyone else? Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Rick wrote: > On 27 Jan 1997 dbambw@panther.gsu.edu wrote: > > > I think what this poster may have meant, was: is it possible to "email" > > an article directly to a newsgroup, without "posting" thru a newsreader. > > > > I'm kinda curious about this too. I have a vague recollection of seeing > > something like this before. It inovlves an entry in the TO: field > > of an email message like alt.test@newsreader.blah.blah. > > > > Anybody have any info on this? > > > > I have never heard of anything like what you are talking of in the TO: > field, but I do know that from pine I can post directly to a newsgroup. If > I use ^R to enRich the header it displays a field labeled "NEWSGRPS" and > when I type in the name of the newsgroup there it posts it for me. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:27:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA18110 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA15297 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:24:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crnal4.in2p3.fr (crnal4.in2p3.fr [193.48.86.63]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA15285 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:24:12 -0800 Received: by crnal4.in2p3.fr; id AA23922; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:24:10 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:24:10 +0100 (MET) From: Jean Schuller To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Viewing of image problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi all, I have the following problem using PINE 3.5 : I get a Attchmnt which is an gif file. I try to view it thru V[View] but I have every times the message [VIEWER Result: sh: gv: ]. My .mailcap is Image/*;/usr/local/bin/xv %s The About result is :=20 Type : Image Subtype : GIF Encoding : BASE64 Parameters : NAME =3D cnrs_joli.gif Description : "" Approx. Size : 3,267 bytes Display Method : "gv " From=20where and why do pine built "gv " ?? TIA Jean=20 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Jean Schuller _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr _/ _/ -/ _/ _/ _/ =20 _/ _/_/_/-/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ -/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ =20 local call: 0388106630 Institut de Recherches Subatomiques foreign call: (33)388106630 Bo=EEte Postale 28=20 local fax : 0388106234 23, Rue du Loess foreign fax : (33)388106234 F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX - France ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:27:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA00668 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:27:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA15282 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:23:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA15278 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:23:52 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:21:07 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA16183; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:22:54 GMT Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:22:52 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Dominic Candeloro cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: wont write to sent In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" Consult your local Help Desk support staff for assistance. They should be familiar with the disk quota mechanism on your computer systems, and have access to correct any faults. We (random people around the world) aren't/don't. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, Dominic Candeloro wrote: > > keep getting an error message that my email copy to sent file > failed and that I have exceeded the disc space quota. This even after I > have deleted almost every file in sent. Any suggestions? > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:39:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA00735 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:39:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA15133 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:33:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from crnal4.in2p3.fr (crnal4.in2p3.fr [193.48.86.63]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id BAA15129 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:33:21 -0800 Received: by crnal4.in2p3.fr; id AA24096; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:33:20 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:33:19 +0100 (MET) From: Jean Schuller To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Viewing of image problem Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sorry Sorry Sorry, I'm st...d , all is ok, I forgot to have a look to setup / config in the image-viewer option. JEAN ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- Jean Schuller _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ schuller@crnal4.in2p3.fr _/ _/ -/ _/ _/ _/ =20 _/ _/_/_/-/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/ _/ -/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ =20 local call: 0388106630 Institut de Recherches Subatomiques foreign call: (33)388106630 Bo=EEte Postale 28=20 local fax : 0388106234 23, Rue du Loess foreign fax : (33)388106234 F-67037 STRASBOURG CEDEX - France ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= -- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:40:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA00309 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:40:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA15170 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:35:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA15165 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:35:45 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:29:14 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA18016; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:31:02 GMT Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:31:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "William B. Silverman M.D." cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: how to use local printer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" To print to a printer locally attached to a Macintosh (or any other micro)... 1. Start Pine and go to its Main Menu screen. 2. Type "S" then "P" to get to the Setup Printer screen. 3. Read through information. 4. Select either "attached-to-ansi" or "attached-to-ansi-no-formfeed" 5. Exit Setup Printer screen, saving change. 6. Try printing a message out. Do note that this mechanism works by the mainframe (UNIX?) system sending some special "start printing" and "stop printing" character sequences to your Mac's terminal program before and after the message text itself. If the terminal emulator program you are using on your Mac recognises and supports these "start/stop printing" sequences then it should pop-up the usual print dialog box, ready to leap into action. However if the sequences aren't recognised or supported by your terminal program then it won't work. You will either need to go back to however you've printed up until now, or use a different (version of your) terminal software. One of the most commonly used terminal programs for people with Ethernet connections is NCSA Telnet. The latest (and last) version of this is 2.7b{4,5} (effectively the same if I recall correctly, but the b5 release brought out the source code). This definitely *des* support printing in this way. If you aren't using NCSA Telnet then either consult your local Help Desk or try posting again here. Either way you should provide information about the name and version number of the terminal software you are currently using. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, William B. Silverman M.D. wrote: > > Please explain how to printer a Pine message from my Macintosh screen > to the Mac printer attached to th CPU. I have been (unfortunately) unable > to find the answer to this locally. > > Again, thank you for your help. > > Dr. Bill Silverman > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:40:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA00729 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:40:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA15174 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:35:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA15167 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:35:47 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:31:01 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id JAA18404; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:32:49 GMT Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:32:45 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "A. Caruso" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: problem!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" This doesn't really sound like a problem with Pine, but is more likely to be a problem with your computer system. Please try seeking help from your local Help Desk staff. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, A. Caruso wrote: > Hi! I am having trouble with my scroll arrows and mouse. Currently, (this > has been a problem for about 4 days) I am unable to move my cursor by > using either my mouse or scroll button. Could you be of assistance? > Thank you, Angie Caruso > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:44:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA01167 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:44:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA16203 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:42:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA16199 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:41:55 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 28 Jan 97 11:41:30 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id KAA07563 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:20:03 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:20:02 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: pine user-list Subject: Re: Lynx as an external viewer for pine (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here's a mail I received in response to my mail to the procmail group. Doesn't work for me, either, but maybe my version of pine is bewitched. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:24:09 -0500 (EST) From: George Drew On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Robin S. Socha wrote: > Someone suggested the following recipe for starting lynx as a filter for > HTML messages (which pine cannot display): > > >:0 bf > >* ^Content-type: text/html > >| cat > /tmp/m$$.html ; lynx -dump /tmp/m$$.html ; rm /tmp/m$$.html This shouldn't be necessary. I played around with this a little bit, and here's what works for me: Assuming you are using pine-3.95 (I don't have access to an older version right now), just add the following to ~/.mailcap text/html; lynx -dump %s You may have to explicitly set your mailcap search path, but I didn't. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:49:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA01200 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:49:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA15914 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:46:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA15910 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:46:49 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpAzJ-00038bC; Tue, 28 Jan 97 02:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "<"<@IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de:info@cydonia.org> Subject: cmsg cancel <199701272136.NAA02189@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Control: cancel <199701272136.NAA02189@mx2.cac.washington.edu> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:23:24 GMT Message-ID: <32ed62fc.27070877@news.sirius.com> This message was cancelled by Josh Olaf From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:49:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA01211 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:49:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA16253 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:46:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sangam.ncst.ernet.in (sangam.ncst.ernet.in [202.41.110.33]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA16246 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:46:09 -0800 Received: (from root@localhost) by sangam.ncst.ernet.in (8.7.5) id QAA11804 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:20:58 +0530 (GMT+05:30) >Received: from pict.UUCP by iucaa (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10992; Tue, 28 Jan 97 16:12:53+050 Received: from pict by sangam.ncst.ernet.in; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:20 GMT Received: from pict.UUCP by iucaa (4.1/SMI-4.1) id AA10992; Tue, 28 Jan 97 16:12:53+050 Received: (from raghu@localhost) by cs.pict.ernet.in (8.6.12/8.6.9) id RAA00431; Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:41:09 +0500 Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 17:40:54 +0500 (GMT+0500) From: Raghu Parthasarthy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: HELP REGARDING PINE-COMMANDS AND INFORMATION THAT CAN BE ACCESSED Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII PLEASE REPLY REGARDING THE ABOVE SOON --RAGHU,INDIA. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:49:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA01217 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:49:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA16262 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:46:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA16258 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:46:47 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpAzI-00038aC; Tue, 28 Jan 97 02:42 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: info@cydonia.org (Josh Olaf) Subject: cmsg cancel <32ebc805.6249681@news.sirius.com> Control: cancel <32ebc805.6249681@news.sirius.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 02:19:52 GMT Message-ID: <32ed6210.26834645@news.sirius.com> This post was cancelled by Josh Olaf From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 03:38:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA01541 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 03:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA16828 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 03:35:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from antigoni.med.auth.gr (antigoni.med.auth.gr [155.207.88.20]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA16824 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 03:35:22 -0800 Received: from localhost (bkkguide@localhost) by antigoni.med.auth.gr (8.8.3/8.8.3) with SMTP id NAA06433; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:31:44 +0200 (EET) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:31:43 +0200 (EET) From: Wateharaphol Kamnerosiri To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu cc: Wateharaphol Kamnerosiri Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII 28 January 1996 Salonica, Greece My name is Watcharaphol Kamnerdsiri, Thai Medical Cadet in Greece. I come from Bangkok, Thailand and just got the password for internet today, anyway, my problem is I do not know exactly about how to send the letter to my country (Bangkok, Thailand) due to I don't have any name of the destination (terminal) in Thailand. In case that, if I would like to contact to any person in my university named "CHULALONGKORN UNIVERSITY", is it possible if I would like to have a name or code for my requested terminal (above). I felt really lonely here and I would like to take with somebody in Thailand pass the Internet system. But my experience with this program just only 3 months. Thus, would yoou kindly please brige me the terminal name in Thailand for me just about 5-6 lists for examples. I will looking forwerd to your reply tomorrow and hope that you will kingly give your assistance to me. Your kindly help will be remembered. Yours Faithfully, WATCHARAPHOL KAMNERDSIRI Lonely Cadet !!! GOOD BYE From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 04:35:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA01998 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 04:35:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA17661 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 04:32:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA17657 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 04:32:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpCd8-00038aC; Tue, 28 Jan 97 04:27 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Forwarding a message Date: 27 Jan 1997 22:42:51 GMT Message-ID: References: <01bc0b9f$04e73c60$9907c580@Patrick> <32EC6447.41C6@dstc.edu.au> <01bc0c4a$34c721b0$4e0376c2@devsys> tutenchamun@t0.or.at (TutEnchAmun): > You could as well just use \. That works fine as well. You mean, "\/home/users/userid" ? Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:02:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA02590 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:02:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id FAA18197 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 05:58:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shrike.depaul.edu (shrike.depaul.edu [140.192.1.10]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA18193 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 05:58:34 -0800 Received: from localhost (rwilshe@localhost) by shrike.depaul.edu (8.8.3/8.5) with SMTP id HAA01508; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:42:46 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:42:46 -0600 (CST) From: Robert J Wilshe To: Raghu Parthasarthy cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: HELP REGARDING PINE-COMMANDS AND INFORMATION THAT CAN BE ACCESSED In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Raghu: The best source of information is it's configuration screens. Each of these oprions have a help fucntion to explain what it does. You can access it by pressing "S" "C" from the main menu. Give it a try. Another source is the Pine Home Page at http://www.washington.edu/pine Hope this helps! \\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\ robert depaul university joseph chicago illinois wilshe u s a email rwilshe@shrike.depaul.edu ///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\///\\\/// On Mon, 27 Jan 1997, Raghu Parthasarthy wrote: >PLEASE REPLY REGARDING THE ABOVE SOON > > --RAGHU,INDIA. > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:15:14 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA02714 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:15:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA18845 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:12:21 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA18841 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:12:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpEFI-00038bC; Tue, 28 Jan 97 06:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: Using file names with high bit characters Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:27:33 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT In-Reply-To: On 27 Jan 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: > Use "oe" instead. Works for me! ;-) Yeah, I could, but that's a stupid kludge. I can't see any reason why Pine wouldn't let me use ö in the file name... :-/ \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:15:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA02688 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:15:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA18388 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:12:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA18384 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 06:12:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpEFh-00038cC; Tue, 28 Jan 97 06:11 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Ryan Bradford Neily Subject: Striping Parts of Subject line? Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:04:24 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Is there any way to apply a filter to strip parts of a subject line? I want to take off the numbering sequence in mailing list to allow for proper threading. Is there any way to to this out side of pine? Maybe via procmail? The string I wish to strip off is: "[List:23432]". Can this be done? Ryan Bradford Neily Phone: 912-764-5522 Georgia Southern University Data/Fax: 912-764-???? Internet E-mail: rbn@gsu.cs.gasou.edu Member Team Os/2! =-> Visit the GSU Computer Science Home Page: http://www.cs.gasou.edu! <-= From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:10:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA03399 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:10:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA19161 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:07:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA19151 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:07:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpF7R-00038bC; Tue, 28 Jan 97 07:06 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Per Kr. Hove" Subject: Re: A Question About Pine3.95 Patch #1 Date: Sat, 25 Jan 1997 23:09:36 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5c9bks$mmm@ustsu10.ust.hk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, David L Miller wrote: > Yes, hangs have been reported on Solaris 2.5.1. The hangs only happen > when you try to open a remote folder via IMAP, but the whole system > hangs, so I would strongly recommend applying the patch... That is not fully true. The system hangs also when connecting to (trying to connect to) an nntp server. per kristian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:22:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA03564 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA19841 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:18:50 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA19834 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 07:18:45 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 28 Jan 97 16:18:37 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA08723; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:28:32 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:28:31 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Wateharaphol Kamnerosiri cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Wateharaphol Kamnerosiri wrote: [...] >my problem is I do not know exactly about how to send the >letter to my country (Bangkok, Thailand) due to I don't have any name of >the destination (terminal) in Thailand. In case that, if I would like to >contact to any person in my university named "CHULALONGKORN UNIVERSITY", >is it possible if I would like to have a name or code for my requested >terminal (above). If you're looking for a particular person, you might want to use finger or refer to the following two addresses on the internet: www.whowhere.com www.switchboard.com You should find the address of your university there. Otherwise, check a major search engine like: www.infoseek.com www.metacrawler.com where you'll at least find the address of your university. >Lonely Cadet !!! Errr - what? Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:27:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA29825 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:27:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA20732 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:22:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from inx.pm.waw.pl (inx.pm.waw.pl [148.81.59.41]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA20728 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 08:22:17 -0800 Received: from localhost (u935@localhost) by inx.pm.waw.pl (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id RAA09746 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:22:01 +0100 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:22:00 +0100 (MET) From: GRZEGORZ OSTAPOWICZ To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: I don`t know! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I don`t want to assistance you .I want justly to reacive some letters from you ,because if I send something to adress pine-sugestions@cac.washington.edu YOU justly send me "AUTOMATIC RESPOND" give me Your HoMe ADDRESS plese! MY ADRESS: GRZEGORZ OSTAPOWICZ PS I`m in the net at 16.00 to 18.00 [polish time when YOU SLEEP - Ithink so] on tuesday 28.I.97 year PS II write to me fast PS III sorry about my ENGLISH !!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:30:22 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA07669 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:30:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA23028 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:25:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA23021 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 09:25:20 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Tue, 28 Jan 97 18:25:13 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id QAA09364; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:22:14 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:22:13 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Ryan Bradford Neily cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Striping Parts of Subject line? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Ryan Bradford Neily wrote: >Is there any way to apply a filter to strip parts of a subject line? I >want to take off the numbering sequence in mailing list to allow for >proper threading. >Is there any way to to this out side of pine? Maybe via procmail? ^^^^^^^^ Good example, there's some more filtering software available, but procmail is pretty neat. Check Nancy McGoughs Filtering FAQ at: FAQ-launcher-URLs: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ http://www.best.com/~ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/ >The string I wish to strip off is: "[List:23432]". Can this be done? Sure. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:12:09 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA30598 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:12:08 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA27174 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:55:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailgate.wasantara.net.id ([202.159.65.166]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA27167 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 11:55:31 -0800 Received: from bandung.wasantara.net.id (bandung.wasantara.net.id [202.159.69.35]) by mailgate.wasantara.net.id (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id DAA22636 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 03:00:21 +0700 Received: from BANDUNG/SpoolDir by bandung.wasantara.net.id (Mercury 1.21); 29 Jan 97 03:47:55 GMT+0700 Received: from SpoolDir by BANDUNG (Mercury 1.21); 29 Jan 97 03:47:27 GMT+0700 Received: from term1.wartel.net.id by bandung.wasantara.net.id (Mercury 1.21) with ESMTP; 29 Jan 97 03:47:26 GMT+0700 From: "Kesakuno" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1997 02:57:56 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <372D5A92D2E@bandung.wasantara.net.id> subscribe From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:48:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA12608 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA28258 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:37:14 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mail.visi.net (london.visi.net [206.246.194.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA28252 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:37:06 -0800 Received: from LOCALNAME (ppp-1-02.nn.visi.net [206.246.196.2]) by mail.visi.net (8.7.6/8.7.3) with SMTP id PAA10467 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:33:21 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <32EE9A72.537D@visi.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:31:46 -0800 From: philip inda Organization: inda X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win16; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: adding URL X-URL: http://www.cac.washington.edu:80/pine/pine-info/current/msg00000.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Please add my URL to your list Thank you Phil Inda http://www.visi.net/inda/ pinda@visi.net From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:03:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA14338 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA29678 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:39:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from planetx.planetx.bloomu.edu (planetx.bloomu.edu [148.137.75.251]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA29668 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:39:36 -0800 Received: from localhost by planetx.planetx.bloomu.edu (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id QAA07872; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:29:10 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:29:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Nadine M. Purcell" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can't open any of my folders because every timeI try to the message comes up saying " /usr/mail/nmpurcel" is not found. Please help me. You can email my roommate at her address if you can't get through to mine...her is "jlbergen@planetx.bloomu.edu thank you Nadine M. Purcell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:09:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA14553 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:09:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA00429 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:52:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sol.terranet.net (sol.terranet.net [206.53.116.66]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA00425 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 13:51:58 -0800 Received: from [206.53.116.112] by sol.terranet.net (post.office MTA v2.0 0813 ID# 0-16231) with SMTP id AAA291 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:53:58 -0600 Message-ID: <32EE7618.6CC3@terranet.net> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:56:40 -0600 From: "Schoenfeldt, E. C." X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Do I need winsock!!?? X-URL: http://www.washington.edu:80/pine/pine-info/95.02/msg00098.html Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Help me, I have a pine account at the Universtiy of Kansas. Well, I have a computer at home that is hocked up to the internet. I want to be able to read my mail at home. Do I need trumpet winsock? If so where do I get it? I have a Mac computer at home. I know that Mac's will run pine because the Universtiy has some Mac's that have pine. Anyway, please help me if you can. I want remoter access to pine via my home computer. Thank you!! A pine user, Matt Schoenfeldt P.S. -please reply at this address, it is not my pine account it is my parents e-mail account!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:20:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA09727 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA00648 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:01:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post-ofc05.srv.cis.pitt.edu (post-ofc05.srv.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.10]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA00640 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:01:23 -0800 Received: from unixs5.cis.pitt.edu (rmsst48@unixs5.cis.pitt.edu [136.142.185.57]) by post-ofc05.srv.cis.pitt.edu with SMTP (8.8.5/cispo-2.0.1.7) ID for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:57:00 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:56:59 -0500 (EST) From: Ryan M Sullivan X-Sender: rmsst48@unixs5.cis.pitt.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How do you forward all of your incoming pine email to another address? Ryan Sullivan K2T, inc. Project Manager / Design Engineer 412-441-2370 Please send reply to ryan@k2t.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:41:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA15441 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:41:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA01085 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:24:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from relay5.UU.NET (relay5.UU.NET [192.48.96.15]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA01081 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 14:23:58 -0800 Received: from uucp1.UU.NET by relay5.UU.NET with SMTP (peer crosschecked as: uucp1.UU.NET [192.48.96.32]) id QQcamr02109; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:23:51 -0500 (EST) Received: from orgella.UUCP by uucp1.UU.NET with UUCP/RMAIL ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:23:51 -0500 Received: by orgella.com (DECUS UUCP /2.0/2.0/2.0/); Tue, 28 Jan 97 16:15:51 EST Received: from eagle.eng.orgella.com by RAVEN.ORGELLA.COM (MX V4.1 VAX) with SMTP; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:15:48 EST Received: by eagle.eng.orgella.com (1.37.109.16/16.2) id AA115296510; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:21:50 -0500 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:21:50 -0500 (EST) From: Larry Wood X-Sender: larry@eagle.eng.orgella.com To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Bug (ID 778JD): lock files (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="2015696441-33463914-854469855=:10773" Content-Id: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --2015696441-33463914-854469855=:10773 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: i am using pine in a unix environment with /usr/mail being the post office. i have a user named duffy and his INBOX is /usr/mail/duffy. these files keep appearing in the /usr/mail directory: duffy.lock.853685224.13115.columbia duffy.lock.853797344.18536.columbia do these come from your software? if so, under what circumstances? mail to this user is frequently returned with a message indicating trouble with a lock. upon removal of these files, the mail gets through. larry wood cad/cae system administrator allegro microsystems, inc. 115 northeast cutoff worcester, ma. 01615 telephone: (508)854-5425 fax: (508)853-2431 email: larry-wood@orgella.com --2015696441-33463914-854469855=:10773 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; NAME="config.txt" Content-ID: Content-Description: Pine Configuration Data ========== struct pine * ========== ui: login = larry, full = Larry Wood home = /net/eagle/users/larry home_dir= /net/eagle/users/larry hostname= eagle.eng.orgella.com localdom= eng.orgella.com userdom= nautilus.eng.orgella.com maildom= nautilus.eng.orgella.com cur_cntxt= mail/[] cur_fldr= INBOX actual mbox= inbox msgmap: tot=0, cur=0, del=0, hid=0, exld=0, slct=0, sort=Arrival inbox is mail_stream term type=xterm, ttyname=/dev/ttyp4, size=46x94, speed=normal ======= Current_val options set ======= personal-name : Larry Wood user-id : larry user-domain : nautilus.eng.orgella.com inbox-path : inbox folder-collections : mail/[] default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook feature-list : expunge-without-confirm : auto-move-read-msgs : enable-full-header-cmd : signature-at-bottom saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : lp standard-printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 97.1 last-version-used : 3.91 bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Command_line_val options set ======= ======= User_val options set (/net/eagle/users/larry/.pinerc) ======= personal-name : Larry Wood user-domain : nautilus.eng.orgella.com feature-list : expunge-without-confirm : auto-move-read-msgs : enable-full-header-cmd : signature-at-bottom printer : lp last-time-prune-ques : 97.1 last-version-used : 3.91 ======= Global_val options set (/usr/local/lib/pine.conf) ======= inbox-path : inbox default-fcc : sent-mail postponed-folder : postponed-msgs mail-directory : mail signature-file : .signature address-book : .addressbook saved-msg-name-rule : default-folder fcc-name-rule : default-fcc sort-key : arrival addrbook-sort-rule : fullname-with-lists-last use-only-domain-name : no printer : attached-to-ansi standard-printer : lp bugs-fullname : Pine Developers bugs-address : pine-bugs@cac.washington.edu elm-style-save : no header-in-reply : no feature-level : sapling old-style-reply : no save-by-sender : no ======= Fixed_val options set (NO pine.conf.fixed) ======= ========== Feature settings ========== no-assume-slow-link auto-move-read-msgs no-auto-open-next-unread no-compose-rejects-unqualified-addrs no-compose-sets-newsgroup-without-confirm no-delete-skips-deleted no-disable-config-cmd no-disable-keyboard-lock-cmd no-disable-password-cmd no-disable-update-cmd no-enable-aggregate-command-set no-enable-alternate-editor-cmd no-enable-alternate-editor-implicitly no-enable-bounce-cmd no-enable-flag-cmd enable-full-header-cmd no-enable-incoming-folders no-enable-jump-shortcut no-enable-mail-check-cue no-enable-suspend no-enable-tab-completion no-enable-unix-pipe-cmd no-expanded-view-of-addressbooks no-expanded-view-of-folders expunge-without-confirm no-include-attachments-in-reply no-include-header-in-reply no-include-text-in-reply no-news-approximates-new-status no-news-post-without-validation no-news-read-in-newsrc-order no-preserve-start-stop-characters no-quell-user-lookup-in-passwd-file no-quit-without-confirm no-save-will-quote-leading-froms no-save-will-not-delete no-save-will-advance no-select-without-confirm no-show-selected-in-boldface signature-at-bottom no-use-current-dir no-use-function-keys --2015696441-33463914-854469855=:10773-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:17:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA16604 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:17:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA02426 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:03:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA02422 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:03:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpMX6-00038aC; Tue, 28 Jan 97 15:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nathan D Richards Subject: Re: username not right: how do i change my reply-to address? Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:48:48 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32EE1F6A.2781@umh.ac.be> On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Alain Buys wrote: > Well, I would simply do this in my pine configuration ... > > customized-hdrs = Reply-to: Nathan D Richards
> > This will not change the "From" field, but at least reasonable > mailers/users will reply to the address you want. Please please PLEASE PAY CLOSE ATTENTION and reply to the person who actually started this thread!!!! Thank you. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:23:06 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA16838 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:23:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA02359 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:08:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA02352 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:08:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpMZ4-00038aC; Tue, 28 Jan 97 15:03 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Kong Sing Yeong Subject: Re: How to send mail *directly* to news group? Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 23:45:53 +0000 Message-ID: References: <32E8DB83.9A6@stat.wharton.upenn.edu> <5ci9n2$mur@arachnid.Gsu.EDU> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5ci9n2$mur@arachnid.Gsu.EDU> That would be through one of the e-mail to usenet gateways. It wouldn't be "direct" (in my opinion) either. Cheers Sing Yeong On 27 Jan 1997 dbambw@panther.gsu.edu wrote: > I think what this poster may have meant, was: is it possible to "email" > an article directly to a newsgroup, without "posting" thru a newsreader. > > I'm kinda curious about this too. I have a vague recollection of seeing > something like this before. It inovlves an entry in the TO: field > of an email message like alt.test@newsreader.blah.blah. > > Anybody have any info on this? > > TIA > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:51:47 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA17589 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA03174 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:34:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA03166 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:34:38 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 29 Jan 97 00:34:28 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA02562; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:13:02 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:13:02 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" Reply-To: "Robin S. Socha" To: "Schoenfeldt, E. C." cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu In-Reply-To: <32EE7618.6CC3@terranet.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Schoenfeldt, E. C. wrote: > I have a pine account at the Universtiy of Kansas. Well, I have >a computer at home that is hocked up to the internet. I want to be >able to read my mail at home. Yesterday, someone suggested using a printer that is attached to your CPU. I really don't know Macs that well, but I don't think that's an option. >Do I need trumpet winsock? Depends on the type of connection you're trying to make. If it is to be slip - yes, though you don't necessarily need Winsuck (has it invaded the Mac world, too?) >If so where do I get it? Try www.yahoo.com, internet section - there's a whole area for winsuck. >I have a Mac computer at home. I know that Mac's >will run pine because the Universtiy has some Mac's that have pine. >Anyway, please help me if you can. I want remoter access to pine via my >home computer. Thank you!! Ok, what you need is a connection to your email-account at your university. Talk to the sysadmin or his aides, they'll tell you what to do and most probably provide you with tailor-made software (dial-in scripts etc.). > A pine user, Liar >:-> From: "Schoenfeldt, E. C." X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.0 (Macintosh; I; PPC) ^^^^^^^ Igitt! Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:51:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA17581 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:51:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA03170 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:34:41 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id PAA03159 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:34:34 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 29 Jan 97 00:34:25 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id AAA02635; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:24:45 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:24:44 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: ryan@k2t.com cc: pine user-list Subject: ~/.forward, was: Re: question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Ryan M Sullivan wrote: >How do you forward all of your incoming pine email to another address? Reading can be fun... for example the "forward" man page can be very revealing: After aliasing has been done, local and valid recipients who have a ''.forward'' file in their home directory have messages forwarded to the list of users defined in that file. So you need a file ~/.forward which contains the address you want the mail forwarded to. You seem to be running sendmail, so there shouldn't be any problems. You might want to use a simple procmail recipe, though, to make sure that nothing "gets lost". But this is not the right place to discuss this. Make *sure* your .forward file meets these restrictions: ls -l ~/.forward Check the permission: it should say -rw-r--r-- Check the "filtering-faq", too, there's a lot more about this problem in there: http://www.jazzie.com/ii/faqs/archive/mail/filtering-faq/. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:35:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA18556 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:35:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA04745 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:31:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from prostar.com (smtp.prostar.com [206.214.169.20]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA04739 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:31:40 -0800 Message-ID: <32EE9804.2C@prostar.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:21:24 -0800 From: Bruce & Laurie Reply-To: bla@prostar.com Organization: Lucky Dog X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: octet-stream Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My cousin has been trying to send me a MIME file that I've been unable to read. This is all I get. Part 1.2 Name: dumpling Type: unspecified type(Application/octet-stream) Encoding :Base 64 Part 1.2 is in blue. When I select Part 1.2 an icon comes up "unknown file type". Any suggestions on what to do to read "dumpling?" BLA From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:41:30 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA19046 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:41:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA04917 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:38:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA04913 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:38:33 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpNyp-00038bC; Tue, 28 Jan 97 16:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: reporting a bug! Date: 28 Jan 1997 00:28:46 GMT Message-ID: References: cjh5@dana.ucc.nau.edu (Chandra Joy Harris): > No matter what I do the program refuses to install itself Pine refuses to "install itself"? Since when does Pine do that? Or do you mean "start up"? > and here's what it says: [Error saving configuration in file > "/home/usr6/cjh5/.pinerc": Disc quota exceeded]. Well, the disk is full. Remove data! Or pat your admin to install a new disk for you. Whatever. > Also, it pops up messages such as:[No room for file: Disc quota exceeded]. Same error as before. Same hints. ;-) > The problem is that in order to save disc space I should be able to delete > old saved messages and start new files for the newer one, but it will not > let me do that either. It? Who won't let you delete data? Pine? The computer? Admin? Can't you just use "rm file" to delete some data? You can do this before you start Pine, you know.. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:47:49 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA19228 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:47:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA05104 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:43:38 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA05100 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:43:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpO3V-00038aC; Tue, 28 Jan 97 16:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Jeff D. Hinds" Subject: Mail sending issues under PINE 3.95 Date: 27 Jan 1997 22:20:27 GMT Message-ID: <01bc0ca0$79514080$02402da1@jhinds.mtsu.edu> When sending mail from a HPUX system, the pine program appears to hang up. This is most noticeable with large message being sent to a large distribution list. However, from time to time, this hang up occurs when sending a simple two paragraph message to a local user on the HPUX system. Has anyone encountered this behavior and is there a way to correct it? From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:56:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA19394 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:56:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA05387 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:53:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from cwolf.alaska.edu (cwolf.uaa.alaska.edu [137.229.100.202]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA05379 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:53:25 -0800 Received: from UAA.ALASKA.EDU by UAA.ALASKA.EDU (PMDF V5.1-5 #15604) id <01IER2XS0WKW8WWGV4@UAA.ALASKA.EDU> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:53:01 -0900 Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 15:53:01 -0900 From: aswkw@UAA.ALASKA.EDU Subject: Re: Octet/Stream To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern, I have received several messages from people that are in Octet/Stream (voice messages) as well as people who have tried to e-mail me photos. Pine says it cannot decode these. How can I go about getting these messages decoded. Thanks for your help From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:01:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA19619 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:01:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA05365 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:57:29 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from www.theformsgroup.com (www.theformsgroup.com [206.165.140.3]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA05361 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:57:26 -0800 Received: from localhost (root@localhost) by www.theformsgroup.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id SAA05789 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 18:00:51 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 18:00:51 -0700 (MST) From: System Administrator To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: -3.95/BSI No Compile Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I am the administrator of a BSDI Unix system. I got the Gzip version of 3.95 (as well as patch1. When I use "build bsi" I get imapd and pico complied but this is what happens when the buid gets to pine and pico. The error about libpico.a is true. There is no such file in this gziped version. Making Pico and Pilot cc -c -g -DBSDI -DJOB_CONTROL -DANSI -DMOUSE osdep.c osdep.c: In function alt_editor: osdep.c:950: warning: argument #1: argument passing between incompatible pointer types osdep.c: In function sstrcasecmp: osdep.c:2021: argument `s1' doesn't match function prototype osdep.c:2021: argument `s2' doesn't match function prototype *** Error code 1 Stop. Making Pine. cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c addrbook.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c adrbklib.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c args.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c context.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c filter.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c folder.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c help.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c imap.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c init.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c mailcap.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c mailcmd.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c mailindx.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c mailpart.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c mailview.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c newmail.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c other.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c pine.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c reply.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c screen.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c send.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c signals.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c status.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c strings.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c ttyin.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c ttyout.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -c os.c echo "char datestamp[]="\"`date`\"";" > date.c echo "char hoststamp[]="\"`hostname`\"";" >> date.c cc -O -g -DDEBUG -DBSDI -DSYSTYPE=\"BSI\" -DMOUSE -o pine addrbook.o adrbklib.o args.o context.o filter.o folder.o help.o helptext.o imap.o init.o mailcap.o mailcmd.o mailindx.o mailpart.o mailview.o newmail.o other.o pine.o reply.o screen.o send.o signals.o status.o strings.o ttyin.o ttyout.o os.o date.c ../pico/libpico.a ../c-client/c-client.a -ltermlib ld: No such file or directory for ../pico/libpico.a *** Error code 1 Stop. Links to executables are in bin directory: size: bin/pine: No such file or directory text data bss dec hex 307200 12288 33820 353308 5641c bin/mtest 319488 12288 40016 371792 5ac50 bin/imapd size: bin/pico: No such file or directory size: bin/pilot: No such file or directory Done Thanks for your help. +------------------+------------------+ | Alan Heflich 602/443.2730 | | The Forms Group 602/867.1854 fax | +-------------------------------------+ | SysAdmin@theformsgroup.com | +-------------------------------------+ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:22:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA20137 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:22:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA06057 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:18:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA06053 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:18:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpOeq-00038aC; Tue, 28 Jan 97 17:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "T. Nguyen" Subject: Limit Pine session for only current date Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 16:08:57 -0800 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hi all, Please help! I am using Pine 3.95 under Unix Os--Solaris from school. Is there a way or command in pine to show all mailing in newsgroup for the current date? For example, today is Jan. 28, 97 and I only want to see newsgroup mails for Jan 28 and not the other previous days..Jan 27 and older. I tried using the "sort" commmand but it did not give me what I want. I appreciate anyone help. Thanks --Tim nguyentn@uci.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:31:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA20387 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:31:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA06402 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:28:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA06398 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:28:40 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpOmt-00038aC; Tue, 28 Jan 97 17:26 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: hamjavar@unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) Subject: patching pine 3.95 with aix patch ... Date: 28 Jan 1997 15:53:10 -0700 Message-ID: <5cm00m$1brq@musca.unm.edu> PINE 3.95 OS AIX 4.1 PATCH ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine3.95.patch-1 Hello, This does not seem to be the right behavior for patch! Is it? I am using aix patch not gnu's patch. Thank you. Farid %/usr/bin/patch < ./pine3.95.patch-1 Processing... Looks like a new-style context diff... The text leading up to this was: -------------------------- |*** imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile.orig Fri Jun 21 14:25:45 1996 |--- imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile Tue Oct 15 15:28:55 1996 -------------------------- File to patch: From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:45:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA20636 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:45:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA06738 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:42:02 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA06734 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 17:41:59 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 29 Jan 97 02:41:51 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id CAA03370; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:28:01 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:28:01 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Bruce & Laurie cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: octet-stream In-Reply-To: <32EE9804.2C@prostar.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Bruce & Laurie wrote: >My cousin has been trying to send me a MIME file that I've been unable >to read. This is all I get. > >Part 1.2 Name: dumpling > Type: unspecified type(Application/octet-stream) > Encoding :Base 64 The file is MIME encoded, probably by a Mac. You need a MIME-aware tool to decode the file. V(iew) the attachment, S(ave) it to disk and work on it with that tool. You'll find those at: mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu >Part 1.2 is in blue. That is VERY serious. It requires immediate medical treatment. Try fdisk on any HDD that does not contain u*ix. >When I select Part 1.2 an icon comes up "unknown file type". Even worse. MUCH worse, actually... Your computer is suffering from a severe case of GUIitis. Only large doses of CLI will help you get rid of that. >Any suggestions on what to do to read "dumpling?" Why read it? If I were you, I'd rather eat it. Tastes great with pork chops and gravy. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:47:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA23503 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:47:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA10457 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:44:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA10453 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:44:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpSlG-00038aC; Tue, 28 Jan 97 21:40 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Untitled Date: 29 Jan 1997 05:23:27 GMT Message-ID: References: nmpurcel@planetx.bloomu.edu (Nadine M. Purcell): > I can't open any of my folders because every timeI try to the message > comes up saying " /usr/mail/nmpurcel" is not found. Please help me. Before you start pine, do "touch /usr/mail/nmpurcel" - and pine should find it. > You can email my roommate at her address if you can't get through to mine. > her is jlbergen@planetx.bloomu.edu Well, if she cannot read her email - why should we send her email? Sven -- "Have you called a deaf friend today?" From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:51:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA23588 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:51:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA10869 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:49:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA10859 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:49:10 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpSs4-00038aC; Tue, 28 Jan 97 21:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: File Size Limit? Date: 29 Jan 1997 05:11:41 GMT Message-ID: References: <5cjh4c$nco$1@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> 75117.3672@CompuServe.COM (Ray): > When trying to send an attachment over 100k, my message > bounces and tells me that I cannot send a file over 100k. > I am using Pine for UNIX. Is this a Pine setup issue or UNIX mail? A mail transport agent tells you to not do it - so don't do it! ;-) This is like the signs that say that you should not cross that bridge with a truck heavier than some weight. Don't do it! Sven [who almost kicked the guy who sent him an 18MB attachment] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:53:55 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA13808 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA10556 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:50:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from arctic.st.usm.edu (arctic.st.usm.edu [131.95.26.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA10552 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:50:29 -0800 Received: from localhost (wsstewar@localhost) by arctic.st.usm.edu (8.8.2/4.53jad USM) with SMTP id XAA07216 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 23:50:27 -0600 X-Authentication-Warning: arctic.st.usm.edu: wsstewar owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 23:50:27 -0600 (CST) From: William Sid Stewart To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: forwarding mail Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello. I am fairly new to the world of E-mail and I was wondering if I could find out how to forward my mail to my new address. I would greatly appreciate any help on this matter. wsstewar@ocean.st.usm.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:01:04 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA23972 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 00:01:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA12095 for pine-info-out; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 23:57:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acme.csusb.edu (acme.csusb.edu [139.182.2.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA12091 for ; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 23:57:00 -0800 Received: from localhost (gharrell@localhost) by acme.csusb.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA04007; Tue, 28 Jan 1997 23:56:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 23:56:27 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Harrell Reply-To: Guy Harrell To: Ray Haynes , White House , John Tavaglione , PineBoard , Ted Weggeland , UCR-Ray Subject: FYI!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hey Folks-- I got this message from a friend this morning. I'm not sure who the author is, but the message is very clear!! Natalie Hello everyone, Over the Martin Luther King Jr. weekend, I had the pleasure and opportunity to participate in the "The Road that Led to Freedom" trip, sponsored by V-103, 106 Jamz, Seaway National Bank, Southwest Airlines, Ameritech and other sponsors. During this trip, we visited Birmingham,Selma, Tuskeegee, Montgomery and Atlanta. I cannot begin to explain what an enlightening experience this was! We went through various cities becoming even more familiar with Dr. King's (as well as other civil rights leaders) mission and vision. We also were privileged to gain an abundance of information regarding the "foot soldiers" who assisted our leaders during the movement. There was, in particular,an issue which was brought up that will effect EVERYONE so, please read on. As everyone should be aware, in 1965, President Lyndon B. Johnson signed the Voters Rights Act. This was created to allow Blacks the right to vote for an additional twenty-five years. You guessed it... In 2007 (ten years from now), Congress will decide whether or not Blacks should retain the right to vote. In order for this this to be passed, thirty-eight states will have to approve an extension. For me, as well as many others, this was the first time that we had heard this -- thus, bringing concern to all of us! What many Blacks before us fought and 1982, President Ronald Reagan signed an amendment to extend this even died for as well as the milestones that we, as Blacks have achieved, this can be taken away from us...AGAIN! If this issue has taken you by surprise as well, I encourage YOU to contact your Congressperson, alderperson, senator -- anyone in government, that you put your vote behind and ask them what are they doing to -- firstly, to get the extension and furthermore, make our right to vote a LAW. This has to become a law in order for our right to vote to no longer be up for discussion, review and/or evaluation. (Remember: Blacks are the only group of people who require permission under the United States Constitution to vote!) Secondly, ask your representative how can we as Black individuals make our voice a louder one and become a foot soldier of the present! Bonnie DeShong, co-host of V-103's "The Monds Squad", who was also surprised to hear of this, will be recapping this weekend's events on the afternoon show. John Davis of V-103 and CBS will also have excerpts of this trip aired on Channel 2 during Black History Month (dates to be determined). As Black people, we cannot "drop the ball" on this one! We have come too far to be forced to take such a large step back. So, please let's push on and forward to continue to build the momentum towards gaining equality. Please pass this on to others, as I am sure that many more individuals are not aware of this. Thanks To you Politicians what can you say to this, to all the rest I just thought you like to know the climate of the U.S. today and everyday. G.H. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:06:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA25430 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:06:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA13755 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:01:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from zwei.siemens.at (zwei.siemens.at [193.81.246.12]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA13744 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 02:01:45 -0800 Received: from ws2326.gud.siemens.co.at (root@[10.1.143.100]) by zwei.siemens.at (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id LAA07752 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:02:59 +0100 (MET) Received: from localhost by ws2326.gud.siemens.co.at with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA073941934; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:58:54 +0100 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:58:54 +0100 (MET) From: Diethard Ohrt Reply-To: ohrt@ws2318.gud.siemens.co.at To: Pine info mailing list Subject: Cruise mode -- up? Message-Id: Company: Siemens AG Organization: PSE TMN Graz Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII If I have "cruise mode" on in my configuration, I get the "next" mail when I am at the end of a mail and press the button for "next page" (i.e. "+"). Now if I have my mails sorted in some "reverse" order, e.g. newest on top, I would rather like to start reading the "oldest of the newest" first, and then it would be fine to enable a "cruise mode upwards": If I go beyond the top of the actually read mail, I would like to get the next in "upward" direction, in my case the one that followed next in time. Actually I just get the message "Already at start of message" ... What do you (including the "pine makers") think about that? Cheers, Diti _/_/ _/ _/ _/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _ __------ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | -- \ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/ _/ |_ \ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ | ___-\ o | _/_/ _/ _/ _/ _/ _/ /_/ | | |__---| Diethard Ohrt Steiermark - das gruene Herz Oesterreichs SIEMENS AG / PSE TMN G1 Styria - the green heart of Austria A-8054 Graz Austria Styrie - le coeur vert d'Autriche =========================================================================== From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 03:24:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA18094 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 03:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA15249 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 03:21:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gold.ac.uk (scorpio.gold.ac.uk [158.223.1.1]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id DAA15245 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 03:21:26 -0800 Received: from pc189.gold.ac.uk by gold.ac.uk (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id LAA14354; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:20:33 GMT Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:20:26 +0000 (GMT) From: "Jeffrey S. Yeo" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Error message Message-ID: X-X-Sender: ss601jsy@scorpio.gold.ac.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII To whom it may concern, Please advice on the message I received each time I opened Pine. 1) Error saving configuration in file "N;\pine\pinerc":No space left on device 2) Pine caused a General Protection fault in module Pine.exe at 001:4731 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 03:42:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA26135 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 03:42:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA14979 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 03:39:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA14975 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 03:39:08 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:36:43 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id LAA03979; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:38:30 GMT Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:38:29 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: "Jeffrey S. Yeo" cc: Pine Info Mailing List Subject: Re: Error message In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" This is not a problem with Pine, but with your computer. In the error message Pine is telling you exactly what is wrong... when it tries to save a file called "\pine\pinerc" onto your "N:" disk drive it can't because there is "No space left on device". This means that the disk is full up and you cannot store any more information on it. You need to make some free space by deleting some files/directories from it that you no longer need (or copying them to another disk and then deleting them from the N: drive). -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, Jeffrey S. Yeo wrote: > To whom it may concern, > > Please advice on the message I received each time I opened Pine. > > 1) Error saving configuration in file "N;\pine\pinerc":No space left on > device > > 2) Pine caused a General Protection fault in module Pine.exe at > 001:4731 > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:33:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA19400 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:33:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA15850 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:29:24 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA15846 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:29:19 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 29 Jan 97 13:29:08 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA00634; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 13:03:47 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 13:03:47 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Sven Guckes cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: File Size Limit? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Jan 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: >75117.3672@CompuServe.COM (Ray): >> When trying to send an attachment over 100k, my message >> bounces and tells me that I cannot send a file over 100k. >> I am using Pine for UNIX. Is this a Pine setup issue or UNIX mail? > >A mail transport agent tells you to not do it - so don't do it! ;-) >This is like the signs that say that you should not cross that >bridge with a truck heavier than some weight. Don't do it! Either that or you have some filter installed that does it. Try which procmail | which mailagent | which filter and check .procmailrc or the like for a recipe that bounces mail > 100k. You might also want to ask your sysadmin to give you more diskspace for your inbox. ALTHOUGH files this size ought to be handled via ftp... >Sven [who almost kicked the guy who sent him an 18MB attachment] Naaah - brute force never really works. If you have a nice line, send him the X-sources. They're free and fun to read, especially when you have them 4 or 5 or ... times in your inbox. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:33:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA26588 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:33:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA15845 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:29:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA15838 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:29:15 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 29 Jan 97 13:29:07 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id MAA00598; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:57:41 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:57:40 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Sven Guckes cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Untitled In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On 29 Jan 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: >nmpurcel@planetx.bloomu.edu (Nadine M. Purcell): >> I can't open any of my folders because every timeI try to the message >> comes up saying " /usr/mail/nmpurcel" is not found. Please help me. > >Before you start pine, do "touch /usr/mail/nmpurcel" - and pine should >find it. I'm sure her sysadmin will *love* the idea of users messing around in anything that's not ~/ >;-> sushi:/home/uzs8kb > touch /usr/test touch: /usr/test: Permission denied So much for this idea... >> You can email my roommate at her address if you can't get through to mine. >> her is jlbergen@planetx.bloomu.edu >Well, if she cannot read her email - why should we send her email? Well - at least you get a chance to write to _two_ lonely co-eds... Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:34:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA26563 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:34:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA15841 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:29:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA15836 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 04:29:13 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Wed, 29 Jan 97 13:29:05 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id NAA00616; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 13:00:02 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 13:00:02 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: William Sid Stewart cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: forwarding mail In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, William Sid Stewart wrote: > I am fairly new to the world of E-mail and I was wondering if I >could find out how to forward my mail to my new address. I would greatly >appreciate any help on this matter. Woah, #3 in just 2 days... Read the mail I wrote yesterday for further explanation or read the "forward" man page. In short, you need a file .forward in your home dir which only needs to contain the new address: joe/vi/vim/emacs/pico (whatever editor you're using) .forward foo@bar.barz That's it your MHA will do the rest. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 07:19:36 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA28162 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 07:19:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA17998 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 07:14:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA17993 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 07:14:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpbgN-00038aC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 07:12 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gautam Guliani Subject: Re: Convert Address Lists between Mail Programs Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:28:59 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5cik7l$mt7@saltmine.radix.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5cik7l$mt7@saltmine.radix.net> On 27 Jan 1997, Joseph Davidson wrote: :> :>This is a free service. and a spammers dream come true, perhaps? :) Gautam Guliani (212) 522 9636 Applications Developer gautamg@pathfinder.com There are two major products that come out of Berkeley: LSD and UNIX. We don't believe this to be a coincidence. || - Jeremy S. Anderson From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:26:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA30425 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:26:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA19907 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:21:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA19900 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:21:31 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpcjY-00038cC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 08:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: forwarding mail Date: 29 Jan 1997 07:13:52 GMT Message-ID: References: wsstewar@ocean.st.usm.edu (William Sid Stewart): > I am fairly new to the world of E-mail and I was wondering > if I could find out how to forward my mail to my new address. http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/mail/forwarding.html Email copy on request. Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:28:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA30432 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:28:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA19426 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:23:53 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca [129.128.5.19]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA19422 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:23:50 -0800 Received: from imap.srv.ualberta.ca (imap.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.76.80]) by quartz.ucs.ualberta.ca (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id JAA33634 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:23:49 -0700 Received: from gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca (gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca [129.128.98.18]) by imap.srv.ualberta.ca (8.7.4/8.7.3) with SMTP id JAA07266 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:23:48 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:23:48 -0700 (MST) From: Lea X-Sender: maldridg@gpu4.srv.ualberta.ca To: Pine Information List Subject: Re: Convert Address Lists between Mail Programs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Gautam Guliani wrote: > :>This is a free service. > > and a spammers dream come true, perhaps? :) Actually, no. It's a solid resource, provided by the author free of charge. Two of our helpdesk pages here have links to this service on Joe's web page, and it gets a fair bit of usage, because the scripts Joseph has written save people a lot of time and energy. Not to mention nerve endings. Lea From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:09:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA00259 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:09:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA22020 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:05:19 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA22016 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:05:17 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpeL3-00038gC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 10:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ed@cti.ecp.fr (Eric Doutreleau) Subject: pine3.95 and sparc linux Date: 29 Jan 1997 17:26:58 GMT Message-ID: <5co192$2sl@piston.ecp.fr> I have just installed sprc linux ( Redhat distribution ) on a SS2 and i m trying to install pine-3.95. I launch the install with the command ./build lnx I got the following answers cc -c -g -Dlnx -DPOSIX -DJOB_CONTROL -DMOUSE osdep.c cc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 11 make: *** [osdep.o] Error 1 Does someone knows if it s possible to compile pine on a sparc linux box? -- Eric Doutreleau Ingenieur systeme a l Ecole Centrale de Paris -------------------------------------------------------------------------- BSD uber alles. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:35:01 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA01022 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:34:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA22707 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:31:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from xmission.xmission.com (xmission.xmission.com [198.60.22.2]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA22694 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:31:38 -0800 Received: from localhost (slick_rk@localhost) by xmission.xmission.com (8.8.4/8.7.5) with SMTP id LAA22385 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:31:37 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:31:36 -0700 (MST) From: Rick Reply-To: Rick To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: posting problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII A friend of mine is having a curious problem. He has recently been upgraded to pine 3.95 in VMS and it seems to work fine, except when trying to post to a newsgroup. It will compose the msg and all just fine, but when we attempt to post it it gives the error message: "441 article is empty" Could anyone give us a clue as to what the problem is. Do we need to set some value somewhere or what?? Any help would be appreciated. Amiga/ / slick_rk@xmission.com 500 / / Rick Kelley \ \/ / 2736 Grant Ave. \/\/ Ogden, UT 84401 -------------------------------------------- Member of "Team AMIGA" -------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:40:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA01198 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:40:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA23241 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:35:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id KAA23237 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:35:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpenF-00038aC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 10:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: wdb@hiwaay.net Subject: Showing recipient in sent-mail listing Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:42:53 -0600 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In Pine 3.95, what needs to be set in order for messages saved to "sent-mail" to show the recipient instead of the sender in an index listing of the sent-mail folder? Regards, Danny Braswell From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:39:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA02845 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:39:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA24281 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:35:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA24274 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 11:35:21 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpfmL-00038aC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 11:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: pedmayn@cs.stanford.edu (Pedrito Uriah Maynard-Reid II) Subject: pine expunges incoming msgs? Date: 29 Jan 1997 19:22:38 GMT Message-ID: <5co81u$t0c@Radon.Stanford.EDU> hi! this may be a well-known problem (or perhaps not a problem with pine at all), but i have been unable to find any information in the faq, in the pine web pages, or in previous posts. i am using pine version 3.95 on a sun machine. i have discovered that if msgs arrive (as signaled by xbiff) while pine is expunging deleted msgs, i never receive those msgs. as loss of mail from unknown sources is a potentially serious problem, i would appreciate any helpful information. thx. pedrito (pedmayn@cs.stanford.edu) -- ________________________________________________________________________ computer science department home: (415)497-6964 stanford university off: (415)725-8783 gates bldg 1a room 132 fax: (415)725-1449 http://robotics.stanford.edu/~pedmayn/ the power of one. ________________________________________________________________________ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:10:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA03537 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:10:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA25718 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:05:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA25714 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:05:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpgC8-00038aC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 12:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Blake Riekena Subject: Source Availability at ftp.cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:46:46 -0900 Message-ID: <32EF9B16.41C6@attila.scob.alaska.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I've been trying to get Pine 3.95 for a week now and the ftp server at UW is down/notworking/whatever. Anyone know what's up? When it will be up? Where I can get source for v3.95 that I can trust? Thanks. Blake Riekena Systems Administrator College of Business University of Alaska Anchorage From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:46:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA04661 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:46:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA26197 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:40:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA26186 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:40:30 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpgn0-00038fC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 12:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Paul O Bartlett Subject: Re: How to certify mail ? Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:40:55 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5c0avo$mpa@sugar.h.belgacom.be> <5c2i97$n93@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Ian Lumb {FPAS/Comp. Syst. Coord.} wrote: > On 21 Jan 1997, Michelle wrote: > > > In the Setup Configuration, you can add "Return-Receipt-To:" (without the > > quotes) as a customized header. [...] > > Wonderful Pine tip! Thanks. > > Is there something at the post-office level (e.g. typically sendmail on > Unix systems) that needs to be configured/enabled/etc. to allow for this > confirmation to be functional? Not at your end, no. Once you have put the Return-Receipt-To: header in your outgoing email, you have done about all you can do. Whether or not you will actually get a delivery receipt from any particular recipient's site is totally dependent on how that site is configured, and you have no control over that. Therefore, putting in the return-receipt header is no guarantee whatever that you will in fact get a receipt even if the mail is delivered correctly. And in any event, a receipt tells you nothing about what the recipient actually does with the mail: for all you know, s/he may discard it unread. Some people may be accustomed to private mail systems which actually do tell the sender that the mail has been read, but there simply is no Internet-wide way to enforce this at present. Paul ---------------------------------------------------------- Paul O. Bartlett, P.O. Box 857, Vienna, VA 22183-0857, USA Finger, keyserver, or WWW for PGP 2.6.2 public key Home Page: http://www.access.digex.net/~pobart From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:59:11 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA05044 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA27003 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:53:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from diamond.bbn.com (DIAMOND.BBN.COM [128.89.0.32]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA26997 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:53:13 -0800 Received: from lilac.bbn.com by diamond.bbn.com (UAA03159) with SMTP; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:53:12 GMT Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 15:53:11 -0500 (EST) From: Kevin McMahon To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: pine INBOX locking with IMAP Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Everytime my mail server receives a message for me via sendmail, pine marks my INBOX as READONLY. So I have to quit and restart pine. Is there some way to avoid this? I'm running the imap 4.1-BETA server on a SunOS 4.1.4 machine, and a pine 3.95q client on a NetBSD 1.2 PC. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 13:44:32 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA05374 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 13:44:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA28368 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 13:35:40 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA28364 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 13:35:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vphbf-00038aC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 13:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: External viewer for HTML messages Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 21:03:54 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On 29 Jan 1997, Sven Guckes wrote: BTW, please STOP forwarding the replies to e-mail! > Well, I doubt that the authors of your viewer wants to make it an HTMl viewer. > How about piping the mail to "lynx -dump" for viewing? Too complicated? That is something like what I want to do, but I can't get it set up correctly. I want to have lynx -dump set up as the external viewer (for View Attachments), but when I tried it, my system went berzerk. \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:31:56 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA02818 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:31:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA29653 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:27:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailer.sorostm.ro (mailer.sorostm.ro [193.226.98.3]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA29649 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:27:37 -0800 Received: from rdascal.UUCP (Urdascal@localhost) by mailer.sorostm.ro (8.8.4/8.8.3) with UUCP id AAA21138 for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:25:25 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: mailer.sorostm.ro: Urdascal set sender to rdascal!mb.sorostm.ro!rdascal using -f Received: by mb.sorostm.ro (dMail for Windows v1.2b3, 29Mar96); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:26:56 +0300 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Organization: User Organization Message-Id: From: rdascal@mb.sorostm.ro (reghina dascal) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:26:56 +0300 (MSK) X-Mailer: dMail [Demos Mail for Windows v1.2b3] Subject: timisoara romania europa test Lines: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:36:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA07478 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA29514 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:31:31 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from coat.coat.com (coat.coat.com [164.153.10.15]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id OAA29510 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:31:28 -0800 Received: from rails.coat.com by coat.coat.com (SMI-8.6/BCFW-HUB-1.14) id RAA24405; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:31:22 -0500 Received: from localhost by rails.coat.com (5.61/SMI-4.0) id AA17859; Wed, 29 Jan 97 17:31:23 -0500 Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:31:22 -0500 From: Beth Protz To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Cc: beth.protz@rails.coat.com Subject: H*E*L*P Message-Id: Organization: Burlington Coat Factory Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have already tried contacting my local support staff, and could not get any help. Is there any way possible to get a manual on just HOW to use Pine? Most of us here using Pine are not used to this type of mailing system, and reading the release notes and updates is like reading Greek!!! We've basically been learning by trial and error. It's nice when you discover something useful, but if you happen to do something wrong, you can create your own personal nightmare!!! I would really appreciate ANY kind of response. Especially because they are planning on eliminating our old mailing system, and I would really like to learn how to use Pine before it's gone. Thanks for listening to me complain!!! From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:37:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA07522 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:37:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA29594 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:34:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sparkie.gnofn.org (sparkie.gnofn.org [206.27.168.35]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA29590 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:34:12 -0800 Received: from sparkie.gnofn.org (sparkie.gnofn.org [206.27.168.35]) by sparkie.gnofn.org (8.7.Beta.10/8.7.Beta.10) with SMTP id QAA21373 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:34:08 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:34:08 -0600 (CST) From: CAROL-ANN P LINDHOLM To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Folder:(CLOSED) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I can't get into my msgs and the problem started Ja. 28 when I tried to understand something at the end of a new msg. When I tried to go to the next new msg I was unable to get it. I quit and tried to go into the system fresh and that's when I got this Folder:(CLOSED) notice. Also. the following comes on the screen: (unable to find newline at 18934 in 64bytes, text: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:17:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA10309 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:17:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA02302 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:12:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from galadriel.compumedia.com (galadriel.compumedia.com [199.242.25.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA02298 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:12:41 -0800 Received: from localhost (socrates@localhost) by galadriel.compumedia.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id QAA17651 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:12:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:12:39 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Boyle X-Sender: socrates@galadriel To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Help!!!! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I'm having a problem with pine. Somehow my INBOX folder has gotten set to READONLY and I can't figure out how to get it set back to normal. Help!! my mail box is getting jammed full. Thank you From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:26:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA10530 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:26:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA02620 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:22:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA02615 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:22:08 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpkD4-00038aC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 16:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atstarr@nowhere.edu (Andrew Starr) Subject: Re: Convert Address Lists between Mail Programs Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 21:28:20 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5cik7l$mt7@saltmine.radix.net> In article , Gautam Guliani wrote: > On 27 Jan 1997, Joseph Davidson wrote: > > :> > :>This is a free service. > > and a spammers dream come true, perhaps? :) No. This guy is legit. -Andrew -- Andrew Starr atstarr at amherst.edu http://www.amherst.edu/~atstarr/eudora (for Eudora utils. and info) I have no connection to Qualcomm other than being a happy customer! If this post/email is answering a help request, please try to post followup questions, esp. new questions, to the newsgroup. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:44:45 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA11127 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:44:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA03077 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:41:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA03072 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 16:40:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpkWC-00038aC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 16:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: Source Availability at ftp.cac.washington.edu Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 15:38:31 -0800 Message-ID: References: <32EF9B16.41C6@attila.scob.alaska.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <32EF9B16.41C6@attila.scob.alaska.edu> I haven't heard of any service interruptions, and a quick scan of the logs doesn't turn up any gaps. What errors do you get when you try to connect? -- David L. Miller | In the End, we will remember not Software Engineer, Pine Development Team | the words of our enemies, but the Box 354841, University of Washington | silence of our friends. -- Martin 4545 15th Ave NE, Seattle WA 98105, USA | Luther King, Jr. Phone: (206)685-6240 FAX: (206)685-4045 | On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, Blake Riekena wrote: > From: Blake Riekena > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine > Subject: Source Availability at ftp.cac.washington.edu > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:46:46 -0900 > Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network > Message-ID: <32EF9B16.41C6@attila.scob.alaska.edu> > NNTP-Posting-Host: genghis.scob.uaa.alaska.edu > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V3.0 alpha) > > I've been trying to get Pine 3.95 for a week now and the ftp server at > UW is down/notworking/whatever. Anyone know what's up? When it will be > up? Where I can get source for v3.95 that I can trust? Thanks. > > > Blake Riekena > Systems Administrator > College of Business > University of Alaska Anchorage > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:25:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA12078 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA03889 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:21:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA03883 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:21:01 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpl7b-00038aC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 17:16 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: HELP REGARDING PINE-COMMANDS AND INFORMATION THAT CAN BE ACCESSED Date: 29 Jan 1997 04:59:36 GMT Message-ID: References: raghu@pict.ernet.in (Raghu Parthasarthy): > PLEASE REPLY REGARDING THE ABOVE SOON > > --RAGHU,INDIA. SEE BELOW NOW! SVEN (too late) From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:29:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA12522 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:29:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA04203 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:26:07 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA04199 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 17:26:04 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vplC6-00038aC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 17:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: David L Miller Subject: Re: patching pine 3.95 with aix patch ... Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 15:33:00 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5cm00m$1brq@musca.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5cm00m$1brq@musca.unm.edu> You may need to specify the "-p" command line option to patch... On 28 Jan 1997, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > From: Farid Hamjavar > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine, comp.unix.aix > Subject: patching pine 3.95 with aix patch ... > Date: 28 Jan 1997 15:53:10 -0700 > Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque > Message-ID: <5cm00m$1brq@musca.unm.edu> > NNTP-Posting-Host: musca.unm.edu > Xref: news.u.washington.edu comp.mail.pine:24611 comp.unix.aix:105890 > > > PINE 3.95 > OS AIX 4.1 > PATCH ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine3.95.patch-1 > > > > > Hello, > > This does not seem to be the right behavior > for patch! Is it? > I am using aix patch not gnu's patch. > > > Thank you. > Farid > > > %/usr/bin/patch < ./pine3.95.patch-1 > Processing... Looks like a new-style context diff... > The text leading up to this was: > -------------------------- > |*** imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile.orig Fri Jun 21 14:25:45 1996 > |--- imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile Tue Oct 15 15:28:55 1996 > -------------------------- > File to patch: > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:00:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA14139 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:00:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA05448 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:56:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA05444 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:56:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpmcd-00038aC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 18:53 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Striping Parts of Subject line? Date: 29 Jan 1997 05:47:41 GMT Message-ID: References: rbn@gsu.cs.GaSoU.EDU (Ryan Bradford Neily): > Is there any way to apply a filter to strip parts of a subject line? > Is there any way to to this out side of pine? Maybe via procmail? Yes, procmail is a good filter to do these things. Use "formail" in a procmail recipe for this. > I want to take off the numbering sequence in mailing list to allow for > proper threading. Proper threading is done with the info given in the References line - not the Subject (although this may help, too). > The string I wish to strip off is: "[List:23432]". Can this be done? Yes, - should be. :-) Using Vi notation I assume it looks like this: :0: fhw * ^Subject: \(.*\)\[List:[0-9]*\]\(.*\) | formail -I Subject: \1\2 Note: Untested! Please verify by reading "man procmailrc"! Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:23:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id TAA14440 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id TAA05976 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:21:18 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id TAA05970 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 19:21:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpn0C-00038aC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 19:17 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: ckstern@cazique.cc.yale.edu (one-note pony) Subject: transform 'from:' username? Date: 29 Jan 1997 05:50:24 GMT Message-ID: <5cmof0$pr4@news.ycc.yale.edu> alright, i know this sounds nefarious, but it's not... i need messages sent by user@myhost to have as the From: address "longusername@myhost". my linux doesn't seem to work well with usernames of more than 8 characters, and i would really like to map the login name this way. i know there's a sendmail remedy for this, but it requires hacking with sendmail.cf in a way i really don't want to try. do any of you know a workaround? a new option to recompile with, perhaps? thanks --CKS c. kenneth stern * ken.stern@yale.edu * ckstern@cazique.cc.yale.edu yale 1997 * calhoun college * alpha epsilon pi * mathematics * nice guy == == == == == == == == == == == == === == == == == == == == == == == == == "you wouldn't know the personification of an intangible concept if it jumped up and bit you on the ass." From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:11:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA15204 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:11:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA06532 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:06:23 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA06528 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:06:20 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpngi-00038aC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 20:01 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Octet/Stream Date: 29 Jan 1997 05:15:19 GMT Message-ID: References: aswkw@UAA.ALASKA.EDU (aswkw@UAA.ALASKA.EDU): > I have received several messages from people that are in Octet/Stream (voice > messages) as well as people who have tried to e-mail me photos. Pine says > it cannot decode these. How can I go about getting these messages decoded. Ah, voice mails! Print out and read them to your recorder aloud. Play backwards and enjoy! (Isn't this a FAQ by now?) Sven From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:35:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA15623 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:35:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA07077 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:31:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA07073 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:31:23 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpo7J-00038bC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 20:28 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: atstarr@nowhere.edu (Andrew Starr) Subject: Re: Convert Address Lists between Mail Programs Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 23:18:17 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5cik7l$mt7@saltmine.radix.net> The InterGuru http://www.interguru.com has a site that will convert e-mail address books between many different formats. It does so by uploading your file, converting it, and returning a file to you. The second poster was then worried that the site might be doing this as a way to get addresses to send mail to. The Interguru DOES NOT store the addresses he converts. The reason the addresses get uploaded is because it is a [perl?] script (I think) running on a server, rather than a Mac or Windows application. -Andrew In article , address@bottom_of.message (Sander Tekelenburg) wrote: > In article , atstarr@nowhere.edu > (Andrew Starr) wrote: > > >In article > >, > >Gautam Guliani wrote: > > > >> On 27 Jan 1997, Joseph Davidson wrote: > >> > >> :> > >> :>This is a free service. > >> > >> and a spammers dream come true, perhaps? :) > > > >No. This guy is legit. > > > >-Andrew > > > >-- > >Andrew Starr > >atstarr at amherst.edu > >http://www.amherst.edu/~atstarr/eudora (for Eudora utils. and info) > >I have no connection to Qualcomm other than being a happy customer! > >If this post/email is answering a help request, please try to post > > followup questions, esp. new questions, to the newsgroup. Thanks. > > Andrew (I love your site), how am I supposed to understand this thread? > What was the issue in the first place? > > Sander Tekelenburg > tekelenb@euronet.nl > http://www.euronet.nl/~tekelenb/ -- Andrew Starr atstarr at amherst.edu http://www.amherst.edu/~atstarr/eudora (for Eudora utils. and info) I have no connection to Qualcomm other than being a happy customer! If this post/email is answering a help request, please try to post followup questions, esp. new questions, to the newsgroup. Thanks. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 22:31:23 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA17461 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 22:31:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA08593 for pine-info-out; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 22:26:39 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA08589 for ; Wed, 29 Jan 1997 22:26:37 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vppud-00038aC; Wed, 29 Jan 97 22:23 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca (Sylvain Robitaille) Subject: Re: Restricted Pine and Pico Date: 30 Jan 1997 04:45:45 GMT Message-ID: References: <199701280016.QAA06354@cheam.ucfv.bc.ca> On 27 Jan 1997 16:24:19 -0800, Rob Hamm wrote: >I've seen questions like the following in the archives, but no real final >answers, so... > >How can I configure Pine and Pico so they are quite secure (on a Unix machine)? > > specifically; > > - no shell escapes at all > - no suspending of pine (full removal of ctrl-Z) > - no ability for PICO to read in files that have > a "/" in them > >I'm aware of Rsh, but that doesn't prevent reading (for example) of /etc/passwd. >I saw a reference in the archives to pine.conf.fixed, but can't find >that file in my 3.95 distribution. > >Thabks for any/all help! > >-- >Rob Hamm >Systems and Networks Administrator >University College of the Fraser Valley >http://www.ucfv.bc.ca/cats/ I don't know how I could help with your needs for pico, but for pine it's pretty simple. You create pine.conf.fixed. In it, you include the settings you don't want your users to be able to change. The settings in pine.conf.fixed take precedence over any others, so be sure to set only those items you want to remain fixed. Quoted right out of the config.html file which came with the pine 3.95 distribution: You may get a sample/fresh copy of the system configuration file by running pine -conf. The result will be printed on the standard output with short comments describing each variable. (The online help in the Setup/Config screen provides longer comments.) If you need to fix some of the configuration variables, you would use the same template for the fixed configuration file as for the regular system-wide configuration file. (If it isn't clear, the purpose of the fixed configuration file is to allow system administrators to restrict the configurability of Pine. It is by no means a bullet-proof method.) Pine will automatically create the personal configuration file the first time it is run, so there is no need to generate a sample. Pine reads and writes the personal configuration file occasionally during normal operation. Hope that helps. BTW, if you're worried about the security of /etc/passwd, just install a shadow password system. There's one for Linux systems at sunsite.unc.edu in /pub/Linux/system/Admin. Certainly there are similar utilities for other versions of Unix. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Sylvain Robitaille sp_robi@alcor.concordia.ca http://alcor.concordia.ca/~sp_robi It's OBVIOUS ... The FURS never reached ISTANBUL ... You were an EXTRA in the REMAKE of "TOPKAPI" ... Go home to your WIFE ... She's making FRENCH TOAST! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:59:57 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id AAA19227 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:59:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id AAA10419 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:55:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from mailgate.wasantara.net.id ([202.159.65.166]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id AAA10415 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:54:49 -0800 Received: from bandung.wasantara.net.id (bandung.wasantara.net.id [202.159.69.35]) by mailgate.wasantara.net.id (8.6.11/8.6.9) with ESMTP id QAA07558 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:00:01 +0700 Received: from BANDUNG/SpoolDir by bandung.wasantara.net.id (Mercury 1.21); 30 Jan 97 16:47:13 GMT+0700 Received: from SpoolDir by BANDUNG (Mercury 1.21); 30 Jan 97 16:46:39 GMT+0700 Received: from term1.wartel2.net.id by bandung.wasantara.net.id (Mercury 1.21) with ESMTP; 30 Jan 97 16:46:33 GMT+0700 From: "Kesakuno" To: Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:00:24 -0800 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1155 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <397D3424546@bandung.wasantara.net.id> unsubscribe kesakuno@bandung.wasantara.net.id From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:08:43 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA03151 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:08:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id BAA10653 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:04:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acme.csusb.edu (acme.csusb.edu [139.182.2.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id BAA10649 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 01:04:33 -0800 Received: from localhost (gharrell@localhost) by acme.csusb.edu (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA28384; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:56:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:56:03 -0800 (PST) From: Guy Harrell Reply-To: Guy Harrell To: Ray Haynes , White House , John Tavaglione , Kesakuno , PineBoard , Ted Weggeland , UCR-Ray , Michael Webster Subject: Blacks voting Rts. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Just as a follow up to the message I fowarded to you all yesterday, I received this and thought I'd share FYI... Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:08:01 GMT From: Nanette_Jasper To: group , my_peeps Subject: Re: Blacks' Right To Vote..... (fwd) Nanette Jasper 01/29/97 10:08 AM To: cc: (bcc: Nanette Jasper) From: anthropo @ astro.ocis.temple.edu Date: 01/28/97 06:32:57 PM Category(s): Subject: Re: Blacks' Right To Vote..... (fwd) Clarification on us losing our vote.... Frank ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Subject: Re: Blacks' Right To Vote..... (fwd) Kevin, this is some further information about the topic that I recently received. Marla Subject: Re: Blacks' Right To Vote..... (fwd) Thank you for this message. Just by way of correction, I wanted everyone to know that a repeal of the Voting Rights Act will not result in the loss of a right to vote for blacks. This right was created under the Fifteenth Amendment. The Voting Rights Act was created to combat vote dilution, or illegal racial gerrymandering, poll taxes, voting requirements, Grandfather clauses, and other forms of Jim Crow politics. At the present time, as you know, there is a backlash that we have felt in recent Supreme Court cases. These cases have deemed many majority-black (maj-min) districts unconstitutional because emphasis on race is used in their creation. How this effects claims of vote dilution (putting blacks in one district so as to compress our voting power) is unknown. So rest assured, our voting rights cannot be taken away so easily, only the protection of our nile representational power. ONE PERSON - ONE VOTE Sherri Lee But I'm sure all you politicians who didn't respond already knew this... G.H. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:46:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id CAA20361 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:46:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id CAA11820 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:42:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id CAA11816 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 02:42:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpttP-00038aC; Thu, 30 Jan 97 02:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cain@quartz.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain) Subject: Folder directories? Date: 28 Jan 1997 19:05:31 GMT Message-ID: <5clilr$2f5@news.fsu.edu> I have now so many mail folders that it would be good to organize them into directories. I had done this with one, but clicking on that one will not bring me down a level, but instead fail. I can of couse use g directory/folder but this means typing it each time. Does anyone know a way to do this? Joseph Cain cain@gfdi.fsu.edu, @leyla.gfdi.fsu.edu, @gly.fsu.edu ,or @scri.fsu.edu (904) 644-4014 (office) FAX (904) 644-8972/0098/4214 (904) 385-0227 (residence) http://geomag.gfdi.fsu.edu/~cain From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 03:31:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA20854 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 03:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id DAA12281 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 03:27:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id DAA12277 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 03:27:16 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:23:07 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id LAA27844; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:24:51 GMT Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:24:50 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell Reply-To: Mike Brudenell To: Joseph Cain cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Folder directories? In-Reply-To: <5clilr$2f5@news.fsu.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="US-ASCII" What you are talking about are often called "hierarchical folders" ,I believe, by the Pine Team. Pine does not support these yet. (I can't recall if they're slated for inclusion in Pine 4.0 or not.) An alternative that you may like to investigate for the moment is to set up some "Folder Collections" instead. These are additional directories containing folders. In the Folder List screen ("L" command) these show up as named collections which you can quickly move between, and then "expand" (by pressing Return) to see the folders within it. Alternatively there is a configuration option so that they are always expanded by default. After setting up some collections you can move between them whenever you are asked to give a folder name (eg, "G" command, "S" command, etc). In particular ^N and ^P move you between collections, and any folder name you enter is assumed to be in the selected collection. To set up some collections: 1. Before going into Pine, make a directory for each collection you want to set up. You can make these in your home directory if you want. Personally I use the sneaky trick of making them subdirectories within my normal mail folder (called "Mail" in my home directory on our setup) AND giving them names beginning with a ".". This UNIX trick hides the directory from Pine's normal scan for folders within my Mail directory. 2. Start Pine and go to the Setup Configuration screen. Once there have a look at the built-in help for the "folder-collections" variable. Cheers, -- Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On 28 Jan 1997, Joseph Cain wrote: > I have now so many mail folders that it would be good to organize them > into directories. I had done this with one, but clicking on that one > will not bring me down a level, but instead fail. I can of couse use > g directory/folder > but this means typing it each time. > > Does anyone know a way to do this? > Joseph Cain > cain@gfdi.fsu.edu, @leyla.gfdi.fsu.edu, @gly.fsu.edu ,or @scri.fsu.edu > (904) 644-4014 (office) FAX (904) 644-8972/0098/4214 > (904) 385-0227 (residence) http://geomag.gfdi.fsu.edu/~cain > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 04:12:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA21088 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 04:12:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA12597 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 04:02:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA12587 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 04:02:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpv7u-00038aC; Thu, 30 Jan 97 03:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: orjanjo@lie.matstat.unit.no (Orjan Johansen) Subject: Showing recipient in sent-mail listing Date: 29 Jan 1997 20:26:57 GMT Message-ID: <5cobqh$60d@due.unit.no> References: In article , wrote: > >In Pine 3.95, what needs to be set in order for messages saved to >"sent-mail" to show the recipient instead of the sender in an index >listing of the sent-mail folder? Nothing; That is the default, but can be changed by setting the index-format option. However, it does not depend on folder, but on whether the sender is yourself or not. (I think this is different from the behavior in some previous versions. At least everyone who changes to a modern version keeps asking why their name does not show up in their newsgroup messages.) What may have happened is that your exact email address has changed (possibly simultaneously with the change to 3.95) so that pine no longer recognizes your old messages - check the From: address of your messages. In that case what you need to do is to go to Setup/Config/alt-addresses and insert your old address in that field. As a third option which I seem to remember someone mentioning, try to delete and then undelete your messages and see if that helps. Greetings, Ørjan. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 05:00:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id FAA20773 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 05:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA13561 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 04:57:27 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id EAA13557 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 04:57:24 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpw2c-00038aC; Thu, 30 Jan 97 04:56 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: cain@quartz.gly.fsu.edu (Joseph Cain) Subject: annoying messages on entry Date: 28 Jan 1997 20:37:17 GMT Message-ID: <5clo1t$5rg@news.fsu.edu> With the new year initially I had a record-dec-1996 mail folder. I deleted all the messages in it leaving only the "record" making copies of the outgoing. Now, when I sign on I keep getting the annoying message "move current "record" to "record-dec-1996" How can I get rid of this nonesense? The first message in the record folder is now mid January and there is no longer any record-dec-1996. Joseph Cain cain@gfdi.fsu.edu, @leyla.gfdi.fsu.edu, @gly.fsu.edu ,or @scri.fsu.edu (904) 644-4014 (office) FAX (904) 644-8972/0098/4214 (904) 385-0227 (residence) http://geomag.gfdi.fsu.edu/~cain From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:34:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA25133 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:34:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA16521 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:27:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from merkur.hrz.tu-freiberg.de (merkur.hrz.tu-freiberg.de [139.20.64.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA16517 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:27:37 -0800 Received: from localhost by merkur.hrz.tu-freiberg.de with SMTP (1.39.111.2/16.2) id AA110631550; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:25:50 +0100 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:25:50 +0100 (MET) From: Stefanie Anteboth To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Many Thanks Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hallo everybody at "Pine" again, Normally I haven't so much time to spend it on the computer,but it's my free day. I only wanted to thank the team for it very good service and fast help. That's somethink very nice. Now it's just your second help to me and I will thank you again. You wrote it's possidle to write back.Thas's what I want the ask you. I'm looking for some mail from far away.Maybe it's a first try to start collect adresses. It would be very nice,if you can help me. That's all for now. Bye STEFFI From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:39:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA25688 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:39:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA16709 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:33:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.236.2]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA16699 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:33:47 -0800 Received: from sushi.uni-bonn.de by IBM.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP; Thu, 30 Jan 97 17:33:39 MEZ Received: from localhost (uzs8kb@localhost) by sushi.uni-bonn.de (8.8.4/8.8.4) with SMTP id OAA00555; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:56:24 +0100 X-Authentication-Warning: sushi.uni-bonn.de: uzs8kb owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:56:24 +0100 (CET) From: "Robin S. Socha" To: Beth Protz cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu, beth.protz@rails.coat.com Subject: Re: H*E*L*P In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, Beth Protz wrote: >I have already tried contacting my local support staff, and could not get >any help. Have them fired. >Is there any way possible to get a manual on just HOW to use Pine? Pine Information Center: http://www.washington.edu/pine Source distribution: ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine.tar.Z Pine Technical Notes, included in the source distribution. >Most of us here using Pine are not used to this type of mailing system, >and reading the release notes and updates is like reading Greek!!! We've >basically been learning by trial and error. It's nice when you discover >something useful, but if you happen to do something wrong, you can create >your own personal nightmare!!! Possible, but not very likely to happen. Read the online help in the S(etup) C(onfig) Screen or have a look at the .pinerc. Everything is explained there briefly. For Thorough information, turn to the above address. Get the faq, make sure to read it thouroughly and there shouldn't be any problems. Cheers, Robin ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ Robin S. Socha Political Science Dept. Tel: +49(0228)22217-8 Bonner Talweg 56 Bonn University Fax: +49(0228)22217-9 53113 Bonn email: uzs8kb@uni-bonn.de ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ On the package it said: "Requires MS Windows 3.11 or better" ... so I got myself Linux. ++---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++---+---+---+---+---++ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:57:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id IAA26817 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:57:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id IAA17243 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:52:54 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id IAA17233 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 08:52:51 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vpzix-00038aC; Thu, 30 Jan 97 08:52 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mikeh@demon.mindspring.com (Mike Harrelson) Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 Patch #1 now available Date: 30 Jan 1997 02:09:30 GMT Message-ID: <5covsq$als@camel5.mindspring.com> References: In article , Martin Struwe wrote: > > Hello, > >> Date: 14 Jan 1997 22:46:10 -0800 >> From: Michael Seibel >> Subject: Pine 3.95 Patch #1 now available >> >> The small patch itself is available from: >> >> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine3.95.patch-1 > >This patch-file doesn't work on three different systems. Can you help me? > >accra:~/pine3.95> patch -f < pine3.95.patch-1 >Hmm... Looks like a new-style context diff to me... >The text leading up to this was: >-------------------------- >|*** imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile.orig Fri Jun 21 14:25:45 1996 >|--- imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile Tue Oct 15 15:28:55 1996 >-------------------------- >Patching file imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile using Plan A... >patch: **** Overdue "---" at line 13--check line numbers at line 4 > > >My System: > >Patch version 2.1 [GNU] >GNU diff version 2.2 >SunOS accra 5.5.1 Generic sun4m sparc SUNW,SPARCclassic [Solaris 2.5] >[same error on] >SunOS fsinfo 4.1.3 1 sun4c > I had this problem too. Make sure you FTP the file in binary mode. My web browser grabbed it in ascii mode. When I ran patch on it, I got this exact message you got on four different systems. After I got the patchfile again with an FTP client set to binary mode, the patch program had no problem with it. -- mikeh From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:54:00 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA00767 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:53:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA22018 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:48:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA22014 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 11:48:11 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vq2S7-00038bC; Thu, 30 Jan 97 11:47 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Jean Richelle Subject: Use "8bit" encoding for News. Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:39:11 +0100 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hello, After posting in a french news group, I got a message telling me that I should avoid using "QUOTED-PRINTABLE" because many news readers do not handle it properly and that the accepted stantdard is "8bit". In Pine is it possible to select 8bit only for the news ? Jean ___________________________________________________________________________= __ Jean Richelle Unit=E9 de Conformation des Macromol=E9cules Biologiques Tel: 32-2-650= 35 87 Universit=E9 libre de Bruxelles FAX: 32-2-648 8= 9 54 av. FD Roosevelt 50 - CP160/16, B-1050 Bruxelles, Belgium ___________________________________________________________________________= __ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:28:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA02578 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:28:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA23284 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:23:22 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA23280 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:23:19 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vq2yQ-00038bC; Thu, 30 Jan 97 12:20 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Chuck Subject: Help: Out of free storage Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 21:59:49 -0700 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="-1595168796-1903590565-854570396=:7026" Content-ID: This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. ---1595168796-1903590565-854570396=:7026 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: I keep getting this error message whenever I try to send or open folders with large files (around 8Mb+). Problem detected: "Out of free storage". Pine Exiting. IOT trap There is tons of hard disk space on my system, and it has 48Mb of RAM plus swap space, and this happens even when there's vitually no one on the system. What could cause this problem. ---1595168796-1903590565-854570396=:7026-- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:48:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA02857 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA23466 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:43:20 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA23462 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 12:43:16 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vq3FO-00038fC; Thu, 30 Jan 97 12:38 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Farid Hamjavar Subject: Re: patching pine 3.95 with aix patch ... Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 18:59:15 -0700 Message-ID: References: <5cm00m$1brq@musca.unm.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: Thanks for reply. .... but I was a bit impatient and used GNU's patch and it worked just as it was described in pine-patch's documentation. Thank you. Farid On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, David L Miller wrote: > Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 15:33:00 -0800 (PST) > From: David L Miller > To: Farid Hamjavar > Subject: Re: patching pine 3.95 with aix patch ... > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine,comp.unix.aix > > > You may need to specify the "-p" command line option to patch... > > On 28 Jan 1997, Farid Hamjavar wrote: > > > From: Farid Hamjavar > > Newsgroups: comp.mail.pine, comp.unix.aix > > Subject: patching pine 3.95 with aix patch ... > > Date: 28 Jan 1997 15:53:10 -0700 > > Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque > > Message-ID: <5cm00m$1brq@musca.unm.edu> > > NNTP-Posting-Host: musca.unm.edu > > Xref: news.u.washington.edu comp.mail.pine:24611 comp.unix.aix:105890 > > > > > > PINE 3.95 > > OS AIX 4.1 > > PATCH ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine3.95.patch-1 > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > This does not seem to be the right behavior > > for patch! Is it? > > I am using aix patch not gnu's patch. > > > > > > Thank you. > > Farid > > > > > > %/usr/bin/patch < ./pine3.95.patch-1 > > Processing... Looks like a new-style context diff... > > The text leading up to this was: > > -------------------------- > > |*** imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile.orig Fri Jun 21 14:25:45 1996 > > |--- imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile Tue Oct 15 15:28:55 1996 > > -------------------------- > > File to patch: > > > > > > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:07:15 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA03808 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:07:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA24209 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:01:52 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from galadriel.compumedia.com (galadriel.compumedia.com [199.242.25.6]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA24205 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:01:48 -0800 Received: from localhost (socrates@localhost) by galadriel.compumedia.com (8.7.3/8.6.12) with SMTP id NAA18139 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:01:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:01:02 -0800 (PST) From: Michael Boyle X-Sender: socrates@galadriel Reply-To: Michael Boyle To: pine-info@washington.edu Subject: info req Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII what is the "fg" command used when pine suspended From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:56:41 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA19529 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:56:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA25756 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:52:13 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from gibson.liberty.edu ([207.86.105.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA25752 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 13:52:03 -0800 Received: from 103-17.liberty.edu (10.2.1.5) by gibson.liberty.edu (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:52:02 -0500 Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970130215202.0066b6f8@10.0.0.1> X-Sender: gbrowni@10.0.0.1 (Unverified) X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.4 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:52:02 -0500 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Guinevere Browning To whom this may concern: I am doing a research paper on my birth date, April 7, 1978. I need to get alot of information on it and I need your help. If you have any information that can help me on the month of April in 1978 or the year 1978, please email me. Thank you, Guinevere Browning From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:18:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA30459 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:18:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA26143 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:14:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from shell.liberty.com (shell.liberty.com [199.89.140.103]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA26136 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:14:30 -0800 Received: (from batchman@localhost) by shell.liberty.com (8.8.2/8.7.3) id OAA11718; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:14:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:14:18 -0800 (PST) From: Shoeless in San Jose To: Michael Boyle cc: pine-info@washington.edu Subject: Re: info req In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Thu, 30 Jan 1997, Michael Boyle wrote: > what is the "fg" command used when pine suspended Using Ctrl-Z puts Pine in the 'background' -- still running, but basically on 'hold' until you put it back into the 'foreground' with the "fg" command. Using Ctrl-Z let's you suspend Pine to do something else in Unix; typing "fg" puts you back to Pine again. This can be used for anything you do in Unix, not just with Pine. Greg batchman@liberty.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:42:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA06472 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:42:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA26895 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:38:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rage.hostile.net (rage.hostile.net [206.100.107.102]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA26888 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:38:53 -0800 Received: from localhost (tgun@localhost) by rage.hostile.net (8.8.5/8.8.2) with SMTP id RAA08448 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:44:54 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:44:54 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Forgues To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: attachments Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Hello I was wondering on how to detach a file to my hard drive or floppy? Thanks tgun From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:56:25 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA06881 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id OAA27276 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:51:34 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id OAA27272 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 14:51:31 -0800 Received: (from scoile@localhost) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id RAA23982; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:46:31 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:46:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu cc: redhat-list@redhat.com Subject: How the *hell* do you configure Pine to use MH-style mailboxes?! Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I've been pounding my head trying to get Pine to recognize an MH style mailbox. How the hell is this supposed to work? I've used "inc" to create ~/Mail/inbox from my mailbox. I've tried *many* different things trying to get Pine to recognize the messages in this folder without any success whatsoever. What do I need to put in my inbox specification to get to the contents of this folder??? I've tried: #mh/home/scoile/Mail/inbox #mh/~/Mail/inbox #mh/Mail/inbox #mh/Mail/inbox/ #mh/Mail/inbox/. #mh/Mail (The physical folder is /home/scoile/Mail/inbox.) Pine doesn't complain that the folder doesn't exist, it just claims that the folder is empty. Please, *someone*, HELP! Is MH style mailbox support something that has to be specifically enabled at compile-time? BTW, I'm using Pine 3.95 from the Red Hat Linux 4.0 distribution. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:06:54 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA26139 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:06:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id PAA27461 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:02:36 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id PAA27455 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 15:02:32 -0800 Received: (from scoile@localhost) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id RAA24921; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:57:32 -0500 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:57:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu cc: redhat-list@redhat.com Subject: Using MH-style mailboxes with Pine--figured out Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Figured it out. I used "strings /usr/bin/pine | grep -i mh" to look through the pine executable for clues. Saw a mention of ".mh_profile", so I looked at my ".mh_profile" and saw that it had a single line in it: Path: Mail Thinking that Pine might use this information, I tried using the folder specification: #mh/inbox and Pine found it (~/Mail/inbox) just fine! Yes! Sorry to have bothered everyone. -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:18:48 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA09462 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:18:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA29523 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:08:44 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id QAA29519 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 16:08:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vq6TQ-00038bC; Thu, 30 Jan 97 16:04 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: anna@cat.com Subject: cmsg cancel <5cr35m$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Control: cancel <5cr35m$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:06:00 +1 Message-ID: References: <5cr35m$5f@mtinsc04.worldnet.att.net> EMP/ECP spam cancelled by hweede@berlin.snafu.de. This is an ongoing spam whose Breidbart index already is above 20. See my report "TheCopyCatShop" or "summary of auto-cancels" in news.admin.net-abuse.bulletins. Subject was: Complete P133 Canon Computer at Closeout Price. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:49:42 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA11494 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:49:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA01518 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:43:51 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id RAA01514 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:43:48 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vq7wy-00038bC; Thu, 30 Jan 97 17:39 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: svreddy@CSTP.UMKC.EDU Subject: help Bcc Date: 30 Jan 1997 20:52:28 GMT Message-ID: <5cr1mc$rru@ns2.umkc.edu> hello there I had a problem and was wondering whether anyone could help I want a copy of every mail I send to be forwarded through a bcc can I set this in the config or in the setup somewhere if anyone knows anythign please reply to svreddy@cstp.umkc.edu I am using version 3.95 Unix version thanks in advance sridhar . From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:55:08 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA19822 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA01527 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:44:09 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from Bayou.UH.EDU (Bayou.UH.EDU [129.7.1.7]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA01523 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 17:44:06 -0800 Received: from localhost (st6h8@localhost) by Bayou.UH.EDU (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA30287 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 19:44:01 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 19:44:00 -0600 (CST) From: daniel kim Reply-To: daniel kim To: PINE-INFO@cac.washington.edu Subject: BUG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII MY ADDRESS IS ST68H WHENEVER I AM TRYING TO WRITE AND SEND A MESSAGE SOMETIMES AN ERROR occurs it is runtime error 202 at 0002:ede. my address is st6h8@bayou.uh.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:17:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id SAA18769 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:17:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id SAA02369 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:13:57 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id SAA02365 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 18:13:54 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vq8Qt-00038gC; Thu, 30 Jan 97 18:10 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Ian Lumb {FPAS/Comp. Syst. Coord.}" Subject: Re: How to certify mail ? Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 01:19:17 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5c0avo$mpa@sugar.h.belgacom.be> <5c2i97$n93@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5c2i97$n93@dismay.ucs.indiana.edu> On 21 Jan 1997, Michelle wrote: > In the Setup Configuration, you can add "Return-Receipt-To:" (without the > quotes) as a customized header. If you put a username in after the : > then an automatic confirmation of receipt is sent. If you do not add a > username then you must turn on Rich Headers and fill in a username if you > want a confirmation sent. Wonderful Pine tip! Thanks. Is there something at the post-office level (e.g. typically sendmail on Unix systems) that needs to be configured/enabled/etc. to allow for this confirmation to be functional? Ian. -- Ian Lumb, Computer Systems Coordinator Office of the Dean, Faculty of Pure and Applied Science, York University 4700 Keele Street, North York, Ontario M3J 1P3, CANADA Voice: (416) 736-2100 x 30757; Fax: (416) 736-5950 [Personal URL] http://java.science.yorku.ca/~ian From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:09:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id UAA13624 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:09:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA03733 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:04:11 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA03729 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 20:04:07 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqABB-00038bC; Thu, 30 Jan 97 20:02 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Barry Landy Subject: Re: Re-sending a message in Pine Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 10:51:30 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: On Fri, 24 Jan 1997, Mats Petersson wrote: :>Anyone who knows if it is possible to re-send a previously written :>message in Pine? I have looked everywhere for a command to do this, but to :>no avail. I think it's strange if there is no such possibility... An even better way to do this is as follows: a) move to the sent-mail folder (or whereever the previously written message is now stored). b) Save the message to the postponed folder (default name is postponed-msgs on unix and POSTPOND for PC-pine) c) obey the command Compose, and the message will reappear as if it had just been postponed. In the above it is immaterial whether the target message was incoming or outgoing. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Barry Landy Computer Laboratory:+44 1223 334600 Head of Systems and Development Direct line: +44 1223 334713 University of Cambridge Computing Service New Museums Site Email:Barry.Landy@ucs..cam.ac.uk Pembroke Street, Cambridge CB2 3QG From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:42:35 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA14911 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:42:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA05611 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:39:25 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id VAA05607 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:39:22 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqBd7-00038bC; Thu, 30 Jan 97 21:35 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: pico and ^S/^Q Date: 23 Jan 1997 15:46:20 GMT Message-ID: References: david_a@efn.org (David Arnold): > how do i tell pico to ignore the start and stop characters? > pine has a config file .pinerc but pico has no such animal. Well, the start/stop characters are defined by the terminal you use. You can change these characters with "stty" - but I don't recommend it. You will be in to some confusion. ;-) Sven -- Sven Guckes guckes@math.fu-berlin.de [who rather uses vim than pico] PICO Info and Tips: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/pico/ [961120] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:45:21 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA14955 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:45:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA05657 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:42:28 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from acs6.bu.edu (ACS6.BU.EDU [128.197.152.60]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA05653 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:42:25 -0800 Received: (from ecoughli@localhost) by acs6.bu.edu (8.8.4/) id AAA265974; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:40:43 -0500 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 00:40:43 -0500 (EST) From: Eric Coughlin Subject: .lock To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In Pine version 3.9 I have a folder in my mail which is locked. When performing a countdown, the seconds remaining gets very low and then simply stops going down and the folder never unlocks. At the same time a folder with the same except followed by ".lock" has arisen but contains none of the messages in the original folder. How would I go about unlocking this original folder or saving the information in it. Any help would be appreciated. Eric From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:41:12 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA15653 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:41:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA05927 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:34:32 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA05923 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:34:29 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqCUM-00038bC; Thu, 30 Jan 97 22:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: vim - looking up words aka spell check (Re: Speller on the 3.95q Pine) Date: 23 Jan 1997 15:58:24 GMT Message-ID: References: marco@chinook.physics.utoronto.ca (Marco De la Cruz): > It it possible to spell-check a single word? Well, yes - depending on the available commands. The editor VIM allows to lookup words from dictionaries (word files). You set the variable "dict" to a list of such files, and in insert mode Just type ^X^K (control-x control-k) after typing a word and VIM will check all dictionaries (as defined by variable "dictionary") for possible matches. VIM will then show you how many matches it found: "There are 123 matching words" Then you can cycle through the matches using ^N or ^P to get the next or previous match, respectively. Example setting for the variable dictionary: set dictionary=/usr/dict/words,/local/lib/german.words > This is one of the main reasons I use Emacs > as my alternate editor (and the fact pico > doesn't handle rectangle commands, but that's > probably too much to ask) With VIM you can select a rectangle area, copy (or delete) it and also paste it in as a rectangle area, too. Example: s one of the main reason alternate editor (and th t handle rectangle comma I don't use this often - but I sure use it. :-) Sven -- Sven Guckes@math.fu-berlin.de - VIM ("Vi IMproved") | Available for Amiga, VIM Latest version : VIM 4.5 - released on 961008 | Atari, DOS, Macintosh, VIM Pages: http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/vim/ | OS/2, UNIX, VAX, VMS, VIM FAQ: http://www.grafnetix.com/~laurent/vim | Windows NT, Windows 95. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:03:33 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA08413 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 23:03:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA06650 for pine-info-out; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:59:35 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA06646 for ; Thu, 30 Jan 1997 22:59:32 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqCuF-00038bC; Thu, 30 Jan 97 22:57 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Oliver Huf Subject: problems with sending filters Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 16:41:28 +0100 Message-ID: <32E786A8.4618@sedat.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everyone. I try to use the send-filter to get my outgoing mail signed via pgp. Whenever pine calls the outgoing filter I get the following message: ----------------------- Enter pass phrase: cannot open tty, using stdin Unable to get terminal characteristics: ioctl: Operation not supported on socket Pipe command returned error. Hit return to continue. ------------------------ Is this a common problem? Is there anything I can do? Thanx, Oliver. From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 04:12:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA19293 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 04:12:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id EAA10429 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 04:05:43 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lendal.york.ac.uk (lendal.york.ac.uk [144.32.128.21]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id EAA10422 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 04:05:36 -0800 Received: from tower.york.ac.uk by lendal.york.ac.uk with SMTP (PP); Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:53:17 +0000 Received: from localhost by tower.york.ac.uk via SMTP (950511.SGI.8.6.12.PATCH526/951211.SGI) id LAA29239; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:55:04 GMT Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:55:01 +0000 (GMT) From: Mike Brudenell To: Jean Richelle cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Use "8bit" encoding for News. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/PLAIN; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Hi - You don't mention which version of Pine or which platform it is on (UNIX or PC). In this case the latter is probably irrelevant, but as long as you are using Pine 3.95 you should try taking a look in the Setup Configuration screen (S then C at the Main Menu) for the variable: =09enable-8bit-nntp-posting If you put your cursor on this and ask Pine for the builtin-help about it (type a "?") I think you may find it useful to you. :-) Cheers, --=20 Mike Brudenell ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The Computing Service, University of York, Heslington, York, YO1 5DD, UK Tel: +44-1904-433811 FAX: +44-1904-433740 http://www.york.ac.uk/~pmb1/ On Thu, 23 Jan 1997, Jean Richelle wrote: > Hello, >=20 > After posting in a french news group, I got a message telling me that I > should avoid using "QUOTED-PRINTABLE" because many news readers do not > handle it properly and that the accepted stantdard is "8bit". >=20 > In Pine is it possible to select 8bit only for the news ? >=20 > Jean >=20 > _________________________________________________________________________= ____ > Jean Richelle > Unit=E9 de Conformation des Macromol=E9cules Biologiques Tel: 32-2-6= 50 35 87 > Universit=E9 libre de Bruxelles FAX: 32-2-648= 89 54 > av. FD Roosevelt 50 - CP160/16, B-1050 Bruxelles, Belgium > _________________________________________________________________________= ____ >=20 >=20 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 06:40:39 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id GAA20595 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 06:40:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id GAA11870 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 06:36:37 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id GAA11866 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 06:36:34 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqK07-00039eC; Fri, 31 Jan 97 06:31 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gautam Guliani Subject: Re: Dynamic sig... Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 20:26:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5cldef$igp@pith.uoregon.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5cldef$igp@pith.uoregon.edu> I had the same trouble. Pine couldn't read from the named pipe. So currently I'm doing this via a cron job. If you figure this out let me know. Gautam On 28 Jan 1997, Sean Harding wrote: :>Hello all. I am having trouble with setting up a dynamic (random) :>signature. I have set up a program that will randomize the output :>every time the file is read, and it works if I cat the file, do "edit :>signature" in pine, use it here in tin (the sig I have here was dynamically :>generated) or use it in any other program. However, if I try to do :>compse or reply or forward in pine, it doesn't work right. :> :>Last night, it was giving me errors about not being able to write to :>STDERR (I'd give the exact error, but for some reasone, that went :>away overnight). Now it usually just doesn't give me a sig. It did work :>once (I suppose that's about as random as you can get!) but I :>would really like for it to always work. Does anyone know if pine :>reads the file in an odd way or something when it gets the .sig? :> :>Thanks in advance! :> :>sean :> :>------- :>"Who came building missions? Unswerving men of the cloth who gave their :> lives in numbers untold so that black sheep entered the fold." :> --10,000 Maniacs "Hateful Hate" :> :> Sean Harding, sharding@oregon.uoregon.edu :> http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~sharding :> :> Gautam Guliani (212) 522 9636 Applications Developer gautamg@pathfinder.com He who sacrifices his conscience to ambition burns a picture to obtain the ashes. -- Chinese Proverb From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 07:18:03 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA21456 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 07:18:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA12741 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 07:13:49 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from conciliator.acsu.buffalo.edu (conciliator.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.20]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA12737 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 07:13:45 -0800 Received: from localhost (rdege@localhost) by conciliator.acsu.buffalo.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id KAA29342; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:13:33 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: conciliator.acsu.buffalo.edu: rdege owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:13:32 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert C. Dege" To: svreddy@CSTP.UMKC.EDU cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: help Bcc In-Reply-To: <5cr1mc$rru@ns2.umkc.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII From the main, go into setup, and select configuration. Once in the config area, scroll down until you see the option, enable-full-header. Put an X in the box to the left. Now exit out of config, and Compose a message. at the "To:" prompt, hit Crtl-R (control R), you will now see an expanded view of your headers. One of the addidtional options is Bcc: > hello there > I had a problem and was wondering whether anyone could help > I want a copy of every mail I send to be forwarded through a bcc > can I set this in the config or in the setup somewhere > if anyone knows anythign please reply to svreddy@cstp.umkc.edu > I am using version 3.95 Unix version > thanks in advance > sridhar > . > Rob /*****************************************************************************/ /* HomePage: http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~rdege */ /* My Quote: Why is abbreviation such a long word?? */ /* E-mail: rdege@acsu.buffalo.edu */ /* Status: Help Desk Consultant */ /*****************************************************************************/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 07:45:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id HAA22352 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 07:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id HAA13130 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 07:38:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id HAA13126 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 07:38:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqKyi-00038gC; Fri, 31 Jan 97 07:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Peter Karlsson Subject: Re: attachments Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:26:06 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: tgun@rage.hostile.net (Tom Forgues): > Hello I was wondering on how to detach a file to my hard drive or floppy? Press 'E' as in Export. \\// Peter - http://www.mds.mdh.se/~dat95pkn/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:06:34 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA25432 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:06:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA14690 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:00:48 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id JAA14685 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:00:43 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqMJx-00038bC; Fri, 31 Jan 97 09:00 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: guckes@banach.math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) Subject: Re: Untitled Date: 31 Jan 1997 10:45:16 GMT Message-ID: References: <1.5.4.32.19970130215202.0066b6f8@10.0.0.1> gbrowni@liberty.edu (Guinevere Browning): > I am doing a research paper on my birth date, April 7, 1978. > I need to get alot of information on it and I need your help. > If you have any information that can help me on the month of > April in 1978 or the year 1978, please email me. Can you specify the kind of information you need? One good source of info are the archives of newspapers. Sven [6.4.67] From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:44:52 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA26438 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:44:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA15724 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:39:46 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from adams.patriot.net (adams.patriot.net [206.151.9.249]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA15720 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:39:42 -0800 Received: (from scoile@localhost) by adams.patriot.net (8.7.4/8.7.3) id MAA17021; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:34:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:34:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Steve \"Stevers!\" Coile" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Using MH-style folders as incoming folders? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Can MH-style folders be used as incoming folders? I have tried identifiying MH-style folders with the "incoming-folders" paramter, but when I press the Tab key from my INBOX, Pine doesn't move to the MH-style folders that contain new messages. Is this possible? -- Steve Coile P a t r i o t N e t Systems Engineering scoile@patriot.net Patriot Computer Group (703) 277-7737 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:49:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA26657 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:49:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id JAA16276 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:44:26 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu (lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.4]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id JAA16272 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 09:44:22 -0800 Received: from localhost (rdege@localhost) by lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id MAA10323 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:44:19 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu: rdege owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:44:17 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert C. Dege" Reply-To: "Robert C. Dege" To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: attached-to-ansii Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I was curious if attached-to-ansi (or attached-to-ansii-no-formfeed) is capable of working under windows95? I am currently using Pine 3.95 on UNIX, through a hyper Terminal connection. I have tried both, but to no avail. Does anybody have any suggestions?? Rob /*****************************************************************************/ /* HomePage: http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~rdege */ /* My Quote: Why is abbreviation such a long word?? */ /* E-mail: rdege@acsu.buffalo.edu */ /* Status: Help Desk Consultant */ /*****************************************************************************/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:18:24 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA27175 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id KAA16539 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:12:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (ux4.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.62]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id KAA16535 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 10:12:13 -0800 Received: from gloworm95 (isr1383.urh.uiuc.edu [130.126.64.157]) by ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id MAA10958 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:12:12 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970128120801.006e2664@students.uiuc.edu> X-Sender: grosario@students.uiuc.edu X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Tue, 28 Jan 1997 12:08:02 -0600 To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Gerald Rosario Subject: Blind Carbon Copy Question Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello, I've setup a large distribution list. When I compose e-mail I put my own address in the To: field and the distribution list in the BCC: field. Now, my question is, when one of the recipients in the distribution list is prompted to reply to all recipients? Does this mean that his/her reply goes to everyone in the Distribution list or does it go to everyone in the To: field. Thank you. Gerald Rosario grosario@students.uiuc.edu From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:36:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id LAA23598 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA18820 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:31:00 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA18816 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:30:56 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqOez-00038nC; Fri, 31 Jan 97 11:30 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: mfuhr@dimensional.com (Michael Fuhr) Subject: Re: POP Client source for unix Date: 30 Jan 1997 13:33:52 -0700 Message-ID: <5cr0jg$e5d@nova.dimensional.com> References: <5cqkbs$638@ci.ist.utl.pt> [cc to author] pcb@alfa.ist.utl.pt (M P S) writes: > I'm looking for a pop3 client to compile on DIGITAL unix v4.0 >if anyone sent me the source or pointed me a site holding it I would >be much appreciated. Take a look at fetchmail: http://www.ccil.org/~esr/esr-freeware.html#fetchmail The latest version is 3.1. I haven't used it for a while, but earlier versions worked quite well. -- Michael Fuhr http://www.dimensional.com/~mfuhr/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:00:31 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA30616 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:00:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id LAA20250 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:56:01 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id LAA20244 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:55:57 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqOzm-00038hC; Fri, 31 Jan 97 11:51 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Nancy McGough Subject: mbxcvt questions Date: 31 Jan 1997 13:17:30 -0500 Message-ID: The only documentation I have for mbxcvt is this: usage: mbxcvt source_mailbox newtype destination_mailbox And I know that `newtype' can be `mtx'. Where can I find more documentation on this? Things I'm interested in are: * What else can be used for `newtype', e.g., what is used for Berkeley mbox format? What about mh format? * How does mbxcvt know the format of the source_mailbox? * Can I use mbxcvt to help me salvage a corrupted VMS-type folder? E.g., can I tell it to just convert messages up to the first corrupted message? Thanks for any help, Nancy -- <*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*<*< @..@ Nancy McGough /\_/\ (----) Infinite Ink ( o.o ) ( >__< ) http://www.jazzie.com/ii/ > ~ < From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:25:46 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA30451 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:25:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA20065 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:21:04 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA20057 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:20:59 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqPQ6-00038hC; Fri, 31 Jan 97 12:18 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Edmund Lau Subject: Re: Blind Carbon Copy Question Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 11:42:05 -0800 Message-ID: References: <3.0.32.19970128120801.006e2664@students.uiuc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19970128120801.006e2664@students.uiuc.edu> On 31 Jan 1997, Gerald Rosario wrote: > I've setup a large distribution list. When I compose e-mail I put my own > address in the To: field and the distribution list in the BCC: field. > > Now, my question is, when one of the recipients in the distribution list is > prompted to reply to all recipients? Does this mean that his/her reply > goes to everyone in the Distribution list or does it go to everyone in the > To: field. > Depending on the version of PINE you're using, you might not even need to put anything down on the TO: field. But that doesn't answer your question. When people reply to that Email, it will only go out to people on the TO: and/or the CC: fields. ---------------------------------------- __ || [|-dmund L_]au `- () _ []nformation & ((omputer ((cience '' _ () |U|niversity of ((alifornia, []rvine `-' From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:53:51 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id MAA32200 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:53:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id MAA21438 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:42:16 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id MAA21434 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 12:42:13 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqPh4-00038nC; Fri, 31 Jan 97 12:36 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Martin Struwe Subject: Re: Pine 3.95 Patch #1 now available Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 21:41:36 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5covsq$als@camel5.mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5covsq$als@camel5.mindspring.com> On 30 Jan 1997, Mike Harrelson wrote: mikeh> Martin Struwe wrote: mikeh> > mikeh> >> From: Michael Seibel mikeh> >> mikeh> >> ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/pine/pine3.95.patch-1 mikeh> > mikeh> >This patch-file doesn't work on three different systems. Can you mikeh> >help me? mikeh> >accra:~/pine3.95> patch -f < pine3.95.patch-1 mikeh> >Hmm... Looks like a new-style context diff to me... mikeh> >The text leading up to this was: mikeh> >-------------------------- mikeh> >|*** imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile.orig Fri Jun 21 14:25:45 1996 mikeh> >|--- imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile Tue Oct 15 15:28:55 1996 mikeh> >-------------------------- mikeh> >Patching file imap/ANSI/c-client/Makefile using Plan A... mikeh> >patch: **** Overdue "---" at line 13--check line numbers at line 4 mikeh> mikeh> I had this problem too. Make sure you FTP the file in binary mode. mikeh> My web browser grabbed it in ascii mode. When I ran patch on it, I mikeh> got this exact message you got on four different systems. After I mikeh> got the patchfile again with an FTP client set to binary mode, the mikeh> patch program had no problem with it. I'm sure, that was my problem. The first time I got the patch and the source with Netscape from www.washington.edu I had the problem on all systems. When I received the first advice I got the patch from sunsite.auc.dk and I thought it was the unset TMPDIR - variable, because it was the only difference. So now it was already working, but thanks for your hint, Maletin. -- Martin Struwe http://fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de/~struwe/ App. 1.4.2 mailto:struwe@cs.uni-sb.de Richard-Wagner-Str. 91 D-66125 Dudweiler (Saar) Lehrstuhl Prof. Weikum: V+F: +49-6897-728308 Bau 36 Raum 322 Tel: +49-681-302-4847 From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:14:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA32741 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA21497 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:11:12 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA21493 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:11:09 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqQCg-00038hC; Fri, 31 Jan 97 13:08 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: camera Subject: Re: receiving mail delivery call while in unix/linux talk cmd Date: 31 Jan 1997 11:30:29 GMT Message-ID: <5csl4l$roj@Holly.aa.net> References: <32EADAA1.2F25@ff.ccom.net> <5cf7lp$1n4@Holly.aa.net> <5ch89b$ljr@news.asu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII In article 5ch89b$ljr@news.asu.edu, hurry@imap2.asu.edu said: > >Usually, new mail messages messing up the display are not from Pine >at >all. They usually come from some mail-checking program. The most >common >is called Biff. To disable it, a user should type "biff n" at >there >command line. Of course, don't type the quotes. They could add >this >command to there login shells file so that it is always executed >when >they log in. The name of the file to add the command to is almost >always >either ".profile" or ".login". You simply edit this file and add >the >"biff n" command. Also, typing "biff" alone tells you whether it's >on or >not. Other than that, I don't have any ideas. > >-- >Adam Myrow > > Thanks for the fast reply will tell U later if it does the job for us.... From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:39:58 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA00030 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:39:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA22923 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:36:15 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id NAA22919 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:36:12 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqQbG-00038hC; Fri, 31 Jan 97 13:34 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: Bruce Weaver Subject: Re: Can I import elm aliases in Pine address list? Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1997 14:24:39 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII In-Reply-To: <5c9qhd$np6$1@usenet.dacom.co.kr> On 24 Jan 1997, Green Matheson wrote: > I have a list of Elm aliases that I want to import into a Pine > address list to use the multiple address function. Is there a > way of doing this without rewriting out all the addresses again? > That is what compatibility between elm and Pine aliases exists? > ::::::::Greg Matheson Korea Times grr@bora.dacom.co.kr:::::: Check out Joseph Davidson's website: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 6 NOV 1996 09:45:37 -0500 From: Joseph Davidson Newgroups: comp.mail.pine Subject: Convert Address Lists between Mail Programs You can convert your mail address lists between Elm Pine Eudora Netscape Pegasus all conversions are supported. Go to http://www.interguru.com/mailconv.htm -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:48:28 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA00865 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:48:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id NAA23120 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:42:56 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from post3.inre.asu.edu (post3.inre.asu.edu [129.219.10.148]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id NAA23116 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 13:42:53 -0800 Received: from general2.asu.edu by asu.edu (PMDF V5.0-6 #7723) id <01IEV7CEF45C8ZQYKI@asu.edu> for pine-info@cac.washington.edu; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:42:31 -0700 (MST) Received: from general2.asu.edu (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by general2.asu.edu (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id OAA07049 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:42:30 -0700 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 14:42:29 -0700 (MST) From: Tracey Gaulrapp Subject: black n white problem X-Sender: tag9794@general2.asu.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT HI there, I truly need someone's help out there. Here is the problem. I am using and have been using pine for a few years now. I recently bought a new computer and my text and background are reversed in color. When I sign into "general" to get to the pine menu everything is fine. But when I type in menu or pine to get into the email my screen is black and my text is white. This is disturbing to my eyes and I have no idea how to fix it. It is so weird because when I firt dial in, all text is black and the background is white the way it should be. Please help me. Sincerely Tracey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _ Tracey A. Gaulrapp Tracey@Asu.Edu Graphic Design Program Arizona State University From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:26:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA05427 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:26:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id QAA26146 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:22:30 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from sparkie.gnofn.org (sparkie.gnofn.org [206.27.168.35]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id QAA26142 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:22:27 -0800 Received: from sparkie.gnofn.org (sparkie.gnofn.org [206.27.168.35]) by sparkie.gnofn.org (8.7.Beta.10/8.7.Beta.10) with SMTP id SAA02619 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:22:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:22:24 -0600 (CST) From: CAROL-ANN P LINDHOLM To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: Folder:(CLOSED) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Fri. 31 Jan. I got a msg from gnofn that they could tell that I have msgs in my inbox but I cannot access it so please give some help by phoning me, (504)738-2132, PO Box 1043, Kenner, LA 70063. gnofn has not been able to give me further help to date. Thanks and does it help if I tell you that I grew up in Ballard!!! On Wed, 29 Jan 1997, CAROL-ANN P LINDHOLM wrote: > I can't get into my msgs and the problem started Ja. 28 when I tried to > understand something at the end of a new msg. When I tried to go to the > next new msg I was unable to get it. I quit and tried to go into the > system fresh and that's when I got this Folder:(CLOSED) notice. Also. the > following comes on the screen: (unable to find newline at 18934 in > 64bytes, text: > Thanks. Carol Lindholm;cpl02@gnofn.org > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:14:27 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA06657 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:14:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id RAA27214 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:10:55 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from goodguy.goodnet.com (goodnet.com [207.98.129.1]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id RAA27210 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 17:10:40 -0800 Received: from goodguy (kdh@mail [207.98.129.2]) by goodguy.goodnet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA09201 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:10:31 -0700 (MST) Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:10:29 -0700 (MST) From: "Kathleen P. Daily-Herrman" X-Sender: kdh@goodguy To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attached-to-ansii In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear Robert and List Members: I too had a similar problem with Hyperterminal. I tried it as a last desperate attempt to solve my first dilemma which I posted to TEKNOIDS as outlined below: I had Procomm Plus for Windows ver 2.11 running just dandy under WFW 3.11 with the printer port set on LPT1.DOS under printers in Control Panel when using my unix shell pine mail on my ISP's system. The printing of e-mail to my attached HP Deskjet 520 worked more consistently and reliably than on just the LPT1 setting. My present setup for printer on pine is listed after the end of this email. So then...I put Windows 95 on the computer. Now my e-mail won't print...a message says it is but the printer does not even respond. In my pine mail setup (below) I had always had the "Attached-to-Ansi" option selected. Now I'm wondering if I can use the other options here to help my computer out since most of DOS have been removed from Windows 95. Can the "personally selected print command" be configured or the "standard unix print command" be configured in such a way so someone using dial-up access can use pine mail on the isp's server and print to their attached printer under Windows 95? If this is not possible, is it possible to put something in the autoexec.bat or config.sys to help my attached printer not to be so confused? Thanks for any assistance. Kathleen TEXT OF MY PINE PRINTER SETUP: You may "Select" a print command as your default printer. You may also add custom print commands to the list in the "Personally" selected print command" section below. Default printer currently set to "attached-to-ansi". Printer attached to IBM PC or compatible, Macintosh This may not work with all attached printers, and will depend on the terminal emulation/communications software in use. It is known to work with Kermit and the latest UW version of NCSA telnet on Macs and PCs, Versaterm Pro on Macs, and WRQ Reflections on PCs. Printer: attached-to-ansi attached-to-ansi-no-formfeed Standard UNIX print command Using this option may require setting your "PRINTER" or "LPDEST" environment variable using the standard UNIX utilities. Printer List: "" lpr Personally selected print command The text to be printed will be piped into the command given here. The command is in the 2nd column, the printer name is in the first column. Some examples are: "prt", "lpr", "lp", or "enscript". The command may be given with options, for example "enscript -2 -r" or "lpr -Plpacc170". The commands and options on your system may be different from these examples. Printer List: ----------------------------------------------------------------- On Fri, 31 Jan 1997, Robert C. Dege wrote: > > > I was curious if attached-to-ansi (or > attached-to-ansii-no-formfeed) is capable of working under windows95? I > am currently using Pine 3.95 on UNIX, through a hyper Terminal connection. > I have tried both, but to no avail. Does anybody have any suggestions?? > > > Rob > > > From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 21:01:53 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA10383 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 21:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id UAA00648 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 20:58:03 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu (trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu [129.65.65.6]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id UAA00644 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 20:57:59 -0800 Received: by trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA79904; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 20:57:54 -0800 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 20:57:53 -0800 (PST) From: Manny Reza IV X-Sender: mreza@trumpet.aix.calpoly.edu To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: latin2 Message-Id: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII How can I change my font to latin2 on the IBM AIX system? I was able to change it to latin2 on netscape and it worked when I sent mail. Thanks. Manny From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 21:58:20 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA10259 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 21:58:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id VAA01289 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 21:55:33 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu (lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu [128.205.7.4]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id VAA01285 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 21:55:30 -0800 Received: from localhost (rdege@localhost) by lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu (8.8.5/8.8.3) with SMTP id AAA14510; Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:55:26 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu: rdege owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 1 Feb 1997 00:55:25 -0500 (EST) From: "Robert C. Dege" To: "Kathleen P. Daily-Herrman" cc: pine-info@cac.washington.edu Subject: Re: attached-to-ansii In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII OK Kath, I think I may have an answer to my (and your) question. First, you need to install a "Generic/Text Only" Print driver. Do this through, start, settings, printers, Add new Printer, Generic, Generic/Text Only. After it's installed right-click on the icon, and select properties. Under the details tab, click on spool settings, and select "print directly to printer". click OK. Next, click on "Port settings", and select "spool MS-DOS print jobs, and deselect check port before printing. Click OK. Click on the Device Options tab, and (at the bottom), click on the Add New Model button. Select Generic Model. Click OK. Click apply, and then OK again to exit properties. Now, load your Hyper Terminal session, and click File, page setup. Click on the printer button, and select Generic/Text Only to be your print driver. Click OK twice (to exit page setup), and connect to your remote Host. Now, go into Pine, and select attached-to-ascii as your default printer. P.S. Just for the Hell of it, I made the Generic/Text Only Printer the default printer. I doubt if this step was significant, but.... what harm does it do. I changed it back afterwards, and nothing was affected. All of the above changes is what I did in order to get pine 3.95 to print on my Windows95 machine through Hyper Terminal. I'm not saying that all of these setting are correct, or if they are significant. It just happens to work. After I successfully printed, I tried using the process of elimination to decipher what option caused this breakthrough. But Win95 got this printing kick stuck in its stupid kernal, and wasn't appearing to react accordingly to my changes... so who knows..... for now. Hope this helps :) Rob /*****************************************************************************/ /* HomePage: http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~rdege */ /* My Quote: Why is abbreviation such a long word?? */ /* E-mail: rdege@acsu.buffalo.edu */ /* Status: Help Desk Consultant */ /*****************************************************************************/ From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:49:18 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id WAA11621 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:49:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id WAA01925 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:46:17 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id WAA01921 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 22:46:14 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqZ8G-00038zC; Fri, 31 Jan 97 22:41 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: rachel@virago.org.au (Rachel Polanskis) Subject: Re: POP Client source for unix Date: 31 Jan 1997 11:28:27 GMT Message-ID: <5csl0r$hv@janis.virago.org.au> References: <5cqkbs$638@ci.ist.utl.pt> <5cr0jg$e5d@nova.dimensional.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In article <5cr0jg$e5d@nova.dimensional.com>, mfuhr@dimensional.com (Michael Fuhr) writes: > [cc to author] > > pcb@alfa.ist.utl.pt (M P S) writes: > >> I'm looking for a pop3 client to compile on DIGITAL unix v4.0 >>if anyone sent me the source or pointed me a site holding it I would >>be much appreciated. > > Take a look at fetchmail: > > http://www.ccil.org/~esr/esr-freeware.html#fetchmail > > The latest version is 3.1. I haven't used it for a while, but > earlier versions worked quite well. It also supports some simple anti-spam measures, provided you have sendmail set up to refuse messages you do not want. rachel defghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz: What? No ABC? -- Rachel Polanskis Kingswood, Greater Western Sydney, Australia grove@zeta.org.au http://www.zeta.org.au/~grove/grove.html r.polanskis@nepean.uws.edu.au http://www.nepean.uws.edu.au/ccd/ Witty comment revoked due to funding cuts From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:30:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx2.cac.washington.edu (mx2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA12049 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:30:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA02328 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:23:45 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx2.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA02324 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:23:41 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqZlk-00038lC; Fri, 31 Jan 97 23:21 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: AJF Subject: Help! How do you send to more than one newsgroup? Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 18:14:45 -0500 Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I want to send a post to several "comp" newsgroups. How do I do that. Can I use wildcards? If I wanted to post to all newsgroups that start with "comp" how would I do it without typing in each one. I tried using *.comp.* and it didn't work. Any help GREATLY appreciated. Thanks, Allen ajf@cris.com From pinedev@shiva0.cac.washington.edu Sun ??? 0 00:00:00 1970 +0000 Return-Path: Received: via tmail-4.0(2) for mailarch+pine-info; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:30:19 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from mx1.cac.washington.edu (mx1.cac.washington.edu [140.142.32.1]) by groupfs.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with ESMTP id XAA11714 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:30:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) id XAA02968 for pine-info-out; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:23:42 -0800 Errors-To: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Sender: owner-pine-info@cac.washington.edu Received: from rain.psg.com (rain.psg.com [147.28.0.34]) by mx1.cac.washington.edu (8.8.4+UW96.12/8.8.4+UW96.12) with SMTP id XAA02964 for ; Fri, 31 Jan 1997 23:23:39 -0800 Received: by rain.psg.com id m0vqZju-00038kC; Fri, 31 Jan 97 23:19 PST (Smail3.1.29.1#1) To: pine-info@cac.washington.edu From: "Darren P. Chapman" Subject: PINE 3.95 Binary for HP-UX Date: Fri, 31 Jan 1997 16:57:30 -0600 Message-ID: <32F278DA.4A71@sji-sjif.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I'm looking for a binary for HP-UX 9.0x that is compiled to run with Wyse 50 terminals? Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks